1985, you brought forth the original notice of violation . The reason is, nobody was able to use the garages. As roger was talking about the back door and photographs here prove, it was impossible to use the garages. They were built in 1997. There is no proof they were built at separate moments in time. Do you have something on the projector . I apologize. Can you show tv what is on the projector. And can you step back, please, thank you. Thank you, president breed. So basically, the people who built the garage just after the yes sold it, talked to about the permit. What year was this . Fall of 1997 approximately. And they were building them together. They were not built separately, they were built together. Yeah. And when they finished them, i asked them if they had a permit, nothing ever came through, nothing was done. And then it was clear to them, the owners themselves, it was impossible to use the garages. Like all of us in small spaces, we go on with our lives when nothing is bothering us. They were used to storage. Supervisor tang only they were recently used . They were never used by the owners. They approached me, saw i worked in the neighborhood, worked from my house and we discussed it. I told them theyd never been used and they had bicycles there and storage. Thats all. They said we intend to use the garage. I said thats going to change the whole neighborhood. I dont think theyre permitted. I wasnt sure. Supervisor tang thank you. Thanks, ill save my other comments later after we hear from the other party. President breed thank you. So at this time seeing no other names on the roster, we will have a presentation from the project sponsor up to ten minutes. Good afternoon, thank you for your time related to this. Im sorry were taking up so much time. I will try to address the various issues. Im more than welcome to answer any questions. Weve tried to be transparent with the department of dbi and planning to move this forward. I think the issue before you is actually a very, very simple issue. As i understand it, this is an appeal from the categorical exemption of seekwa, it is not a rereview of everything that went on before the board of appeals and Planning Department. There is a lot that has gone on that you are not privy to. I will address the two questions by the supervisors just recently as i go through this, but the log does not support the appellant, the law says if they have done proper analysis and there is substantial evidence that supports them, and there is no new construction or major changed condition, then theyre findings are supposed to be affirmed and thats what the law says. The facts of this case actually support irving that the planning everything that the Planning Department has said and that this is categorically exempt. This hearing is about the categorical exemption, not everything that is hashed out about the history of the building, but im going to address that because there is clearly concern. We purchased this building, believing there were two garages, there were two legitimate garages. There was nothing on the 3r report related to. Right as we purchased the building, there was concern raised by the neighbor, contrary to what you just heard, what he told us was that if we were going to be using the garages, he wanted there to be a single garage door in the center in order to try to not have there be a lot of noise. I am now learning that hes using that against us to try to tell people in the neighborhood we were planning to do new construction. My wife and i purchased this place and didnt want to do anything. We moved from marine county back to the city. Were empty nestors, were trying to scale down, so i could walk to work rather than commute. Were not trying to run a hotel, which is what hes telling people in the neighborhood to get anger against us. It is hard to believe some of the things that weve seen and heard that the appellant is doing. He has a website out there. Hes been blasting emails to people. Giving them scripts to come up and what to say. And weve been dealing with this for a long, long time now. He clearly knows the system. He knows how to operate within the system. He has not only attacked my wife in the street verbally, yelling at her, he has said all kinds of inappropriate things that i find sexist. It is hard to belief some of the stuff were having to deal with here. He has attacked many of the people and criticized the people on the board of appeals, and he was just here attacking peskin. He is someone who is bullying people in the neighborhood. And you actually have a letter that we have tried to submit to someone here that says hes been doing this in the past. I would just urge you to look at what it is that youre tasked here, and to try to follow the law, and what is going on related to the categorical exemption. Now to answer some of your questions, supervisor kim, when we were looking at the file, ultimately trying to figure out what is going on, we saw that there were actual permits that were done for work at the same time the garages were being done, apparently some work had been done and it wasnt permitted properly, so the city came in and said you have to redo all kinds of stuff. So a massive permit was done, the 3r report said there were other permits under the master permit that hadnt been properly closed out. We went to all kinds of different people, dbi, expediters, everything trying to find out what was going on. There is an actual permit for the overall work that has plans showing one garage door. It also says on the documents, it says garages, plural, as if those are part of the overall project. Now, it appears, although everybody has told us, there appear to be records that are missing from the file, so the file does not seem to be quite complete. And what the board of supervisors the board of appeals ultimately did was they said, look, this seems to be kind of jumbled up, there was clearly an intent when they were dealing with the permits to try to correct everything, but for whatever reason, this homeowner who was not architectdesigner, this is a homeowner trying to correct things at the time and get everything permitted. They went through, submitted plans, there is calculations related to engineering for the garage. And i believe both garage doors. So there was an effort by everybody, including the city, and the Planning Department and the dbi, to try to correct everything that was going on and have it done properly. We just heard from the appellant that he understood that the person was also trying to correct it at that time. What do we know . We know at that time the garage door would have been approved, probably both of them, but at least one. That is what the board of appeals was looking at. They were telling us, this probably should be grandfathered in because it was done before and it would have been approved, but at this point, were hamstrung because there is a rule that now exists and there is nothing in the regulations that say how you deal with this. We were send to the board of appeals. The board of appeals looked at this and had the ability to look at everything in the file and go through all of it and they came down with the conclusion that something happened back there that didnt have all of the ts and is dotted, but there was intent at least acknowledged by the city, because they had plans that showed one garage door. So the board of appeals decided that, ok, were going to allow the one that conforms with everything, its nothing, as we just heard, its actually consistent with how its supposed to be. And what i want to actually also just raise, im going to put something here. I think this is really quite important, because there is effort here to say there are zero cars that go in and out of the alley. There is another garage, exactly like the one on our building, that is literally two doors down that faces his front door. And that garage i will show you if i may is the exact same size and construction on the same sidewalk that were dealing with related to our building. Thats directly in front of the door. It does not have a curb cut because it doesnt appear the city required anybody to do it. That directly in front of his door, hes not complaining about it, because its his friend using it for a long time. Now, his friend had a truck that he used to park in there. He hasnt been using the truck lately. Its been used for storage. I believe the friend has now moved out, because he used to run a store right next to it. But thats another garage door. There are constant vehicles going up and down the vehicle, dropping people off, whether uber or not. Its not just us that uses the alley. It is my neighbor who is doing the appeal. He likes to use the alley, too. In fact, something i didnt know that was raised by a neighbor, the neighbor came in and said he likes to park his car there. Illegally. And leave it there for extended periods of time. So there are you will tearier motives going on here that you should realize, this is so he can park his car there, so then, we are not going to be able to go in and out of our garage and use our garage. So there is a complete motive here. I want to show you. When we heard about this from the neighbor, we thought, gee, we didnt know that was his car parking there. Look at the vehicle at the top. Hes going to have to acknowledge its his car. He parked it there in the evening, rather than using the parking in the neighborhood because its impossible to park in the neighborhood. In fact, almost everybody i have spoken to said parking is one of the most difficult things in the neighborhood and they dont want there to be two more vehicles put onto the street. [bell ringing] i want to show you another one. There are multiple pictures of him doing this. Heres another one, where hes parked the car and another car that is trying to come up, but cant because he parked the car in the alley. Heres another one. And it even shows him, going into his car, at this moment. Now, what happened, he saw us take that picture. And what happens after he sees us taking the picture. Why . Because he knew we caught him. The time is concluded. If you just follow the law, the rules. Thank you. Thank you. So, up next is two minutes per speaker in opposition supervisor safai has a question. You want to question. Supervisor kim. Supervisor kim this is to the project sponsor. You made allegations in your argument that the city is missing records in relation to 20 nobles. I dont know. What i was told supervisor kim youre suggesting that the city im suggesting it may not be a complete file. Im not the only one who suggested that. Supervisor kim when you said youre not the only one, who suggested that . There was discussion about what they were going to do, because they saw supervisor kim who is they . At the board of appeals. The board of appeals is implying that records are missing . I dont know what theyre implying. Supervisor kim you stated this, im asking you what you meant by it. Are you saying that the city may be missing records on 20 nobles . What i said was, yes, i dont know, im not saying i know anything for fact, all i know supervisor kim why do you think that may be the case . Well, the reason is because what i think happened is they opened up a whole bunch of separate small permits related to supervisor kim who is they . Whoever the original homeowners. Supervisor kim the original Property Owners. In 1997. They opened up a series of original permits that were part of the bigger project. The only thing i know, this is on the report, they then opened up the master permit, the master permit was closed as part of the process, they were looking at the garages. They had permits and plans in that are in the city file that show one garage door, and there is calculations related to the changes that were needed to do for the garage and those are all in the file. And then there are other permits that say garages on it, but its not a specific permit for the garage. So it appears as if there was some confusion going on back there, related to how they were trying to get all this together. And we know the one master permit was closed out. So when we purchased the property supervisor kim isnt it possible the Property Owner didnt file permits for the garage . Im not saying thats not possible. Supervisor kim but youre suggesting that its possible that, um, permits were pulled for the garage and the city doesnt have a record of it . Well, i dont know that is the case. I know there were permits pulled for the overall work that discussed the garages. Supervisor kim but no explicit request to permit a garage in that . I apologize. Supervisor kim no, thank you, you answered my question, i appreciate it. Thank you very much. Is there any other questions. I have one question. Supervisor fewer. Supervisor fewer i have one question, so this is your permanent address, 20 nobles . Yes. Is this where youre registered to vote. I have registered to vote. I permanently reside there and the issue of three times we rented it, we had no idea what was going on. He had filed a complaint. We didnt know that prevented anything. We went to see our daughter who is trying to be a competitive skier, we were away way for the weekend, were tight on cash, why not rent it out for the weekend. Were trying to support her. She wasnt sponsored, so we were the sponsors, the parents. And we tried to get a little bit of money. We did it three times. As soon as we were told there was an issue because of what is going on here, which we had no idea that was an issue, we immediately stopped. We havent done anything since. We are permanent residents there. I walk 15 minutes to work. This is the whole reason we moved to the location. Supervisor fewer you dont have intention of creating a shortterm rental . Absolutely not, 100 . Supervisor fewer do you have residence in i do not, i am hoping my daughter in college in canada will come back and live in the home and if i can do that as a parent, i want to do it. I dont know if ill be able to. Supervisor fewer and you dont intend to do shortterm rental at 20 nobles . Absolutely not. We have two other tenants there we have a great relationship. Are you allowing shortterm rentals of your tenants . No. President breed i just want to be clear its not against the law to apply and go through the process to actually have a shortterm rental for anybody, so i just want to put that out there. Any way, let me open it up to those who want to speak in opposition of the appeal, members of the public who want to speak in opposition of the appeal, please come forward, you have two minutes. Hi, im his brother. And our family has lived in the north beach area for probably over 100 years. I lived there with my grandfather, a board of supervisor like you guys from 1958 to 1961. Our family is a big part of the north beach area. My mother still lives on greenwich street, i lived with my grandfather and was so excited when my brother was able to move, because hes going to be just a few blocks from my mother. And she is failing in health unfortunately. I want to speak against this notion of the people who spoke ahead that my brother is a foreigner, developer, going to do this shortterm rental. Its totally, absolutely false. There is absolutely no merit to it. I was standing behind this group of people as i walked in to city hall today, and i saw mr. Bruno saying, dont worry, i have a script for you. And it really hurt me. It personally hurt me he would sit there and try to besmirch my family and say were foreigners, coming in for a bad notion or bad idea to do this, when its completely and utterly false. And as my brother showed you, its his own selfinterest to keep his private park space. I hope you see through this charade. And you do what is right here and follow the law, thank you very much. President breed thank you. Next speaker, please. If there are any other members of the public who would like to speak in opposition to the appeal, please line up to your right. Good afternoon. Excuse me, good evening. My name is rick sa vary, i live in north beach. I was born in San Francisco, my dad 92yearold dad was born in San Francisco. My mom grew up here and passed away a few years ago. I want to iterate what was said here, was that the family has lived here for almost 100 years. His mom lives up the street from me and has been failing ill. I know for a fact that one of the reasons of moving back in was to take care of her in the north beach area. Im on the board of the boys an girls club in north beach. I attend st. Peters and paul, where i was baptized. My father was baptized there. My son. I find it odd theyre challenging this is some flybynight family. These are people who live here. Ive known him since he went to school in university of San Francisco, where he lived with his grandfather, the judge, who was failing in health. I find it odd that were talking about parking. I think its no doubt when you talk about parking in north beach, its extremely difficult and that people, all you do with the construction, theyre inserting garages. Here, they want people to take away garages and put cars on the street. Thats the antithesis of what is going on there. There is a beautiful victorian, a nice couple bought it. Theyre going to excavate into the hillside and put in garage space. Im a proponent of keeping the cars in the garages and off the street. I support we keep the garages in 20 nobles. Thank you. President breed thank you for your comments. Next speaker, please. Hello. My name is kerry, i grew up in the bay area. I live in San Francisco, ive lived on broadway for ten years. I work with him. I know for a fact that he does live there fulltime and intends to stay there, he and his wife. I take the 41 bus to work and i often see him walking to work. I know that he walks home every day, i sometimes walk with him, get on the bus, have dinner with them and bump into them when im out in north beach. I invited them to go out and i know they do live there and im surprised im here to talk about that, because i know how happy they were to move there. Excited to walk to work every day. So thank you. President breed thank you. Next speaker, please. And if there are any other members who would like to speak in opposition of the appeal, please line up to the right. Good afternoon, my name is tom brigham. My parents and grandparents were born in San Francisco. I love this town. I would like to say specifically that the else allegations that the theyre not fulltime residents is patently untrue. I have actually worked on grant street, about a block from 20 nobles alley, so i see them all the time, walking up and down the street. Dudley has been walking the dog, and shes given me pointers about restaurants to go in the neighborhood and places to park. I see cars going up and down knoll nobles alley with frequency. Parking in north beach is extremely difficult. I have to do it on a daily basis. I think it is genuinely a good thing to have more garage parking and free up spaces on the street and say again that the allegation that theyre running some type of hotel or absentee landlords is ludicrous, thank you. President breed thank you. Are there any other members of the public who would lik