Is happening now in the middle east, what is the situation in israel and in the gaza sector, which is experiencing powerful bombing and a humanitarian catastrophe, from the scene, our correspondents. Well, now well tell you in more detail about these and other news, but a little not in the format that you are used to, and both of them will be heard in our conversation one way or another, our guest is the leader of the communist party of russia nady zyuganov, we welcome you, hello, dima, we havent met for a long time, im very glad to see you, especially since im also very glad to see you in the studio, probably an oldtimer, you and i held the most negotiations here, on the russia24 channel, not the most, not the most guarded, of course , but thank you, Gennady Andreevich, by the way, here is your newspaper, release, its true, i immediately saw the word budget there, its probably worth discussing with you right away, the Main Financial document, we have it for 3 years. Not just for 3 years, this budget is generally extremely important, we discussed yesterday for an hour and a half with minister soluan, tomorrow he will present this document in the state duma, the budget is not just numbers, it is destinies, it is our development, those future, especially , now we are talking about the quality of the new policy, recently the president , speaking in valdai, essentially proposed an image of the future, i discussed this with him yesterday topic, we are talking about a strong, selfsufficient state , when he was asked where you see the greatness of russia, he openly said, first of all, sovereignty, but it must be provided with a developed economy, strong finances, and the latest technologies, and highquality education and science future, and the growing healthy, strong, patriotic generation, and of course security, here Security Problems are taken into account, and as for the social sphere, the economy requires a significant increase, so we at the oryol economic forum, we specifically reviewed the Development Budget and we will confidently promote it further, it has shown exceptional effectiveness, and now we have had speakers at the plenum at the seminar, and the governor of our oryol region, klychkov, who over the past 2 years has shown the best result the Grain Harvest per person is 67 tons, this is the best harvest in the country. Kanovalov superbly doubled and tripled Budget Expenditures and is developing social services in khakassia, creating new enterprises together with belarusians, our mayor in novosibirsk, very confidently successfully solves the problems of the russians and the ulyanovsk region, but also the most important experience of our new National Enterprises, i invited everyone, including the leadership of the country, our state farm named after lenin, which became a record holder this year, zvenigovskoye , a unique enterprise, kazankova, i hope that the experience of people S Enterprises will make its way, our main point is the development of the economy, support for science and education, 12 laws are ready for this and we will insist on them move forward, Gennady Andreevich, you said that you had a meeting with anton siluanov, you talked, of course, also in particular about the main question that ordinary people ask, there are a lot of tasks set for our state, for probably every person, and the question is then objectively, is there enough money to complete all these tasks . Dmitry, if money served the citizens, there would be more than enough of it, when they say that we have no money, this is absolutely not true, last year they pumped 261 billion dollars abroad, this year, looks like it will be installed. The same record stop the outflow of capital, and its clear how to do it, at one time the priyakovlyaks were done almost immediately, you will have colossal resources, a cutoff zone, we sell everything, so again they are put in a box and sent to the interests of other states, other banks , i believe that this financial and Economic Policy is harming our country, there is another source of income, this year we will receive 45 billion in trade from Agricultural Products if we implemented that program, kashen suggested kharitonov and kolomeitsev, it was approved, supported by the academy of sciences, and the state council, and the president , we would have received twice as much, instead of supporting agriculture as much as possible, the sowing season is in full swing, the price of diesel fuel has been inflated by 40 , and 50 days cannot be regulated, there is no problem regulating it, take the strategic sectors into the hands of the state, let all forms of economic ownership work. Force the central bank to finance production and be responsible for the development of production, everything will line up for you quickly and competently. Hence, it is no coincidence that the president insists on a new course and has formulated these six fundamental positions, but he is struggling with the financial and economic bloc, and i understand why he is struggling. Tell me, on what basis do they not want to pay normal taxes . Here i am yesterday. Showed, including solanov, that the 25 richest oligarchs, ours , have more money than the state budget by 1 trillion, well, let them pay normal taxes, the whole world pays, all twenty pay a progressive scale, except us, we contribute, refuses, contributes, refuses, in order for science to develop effectively, it is necessary to double the allocations so that you have quality. Everything is built into the law of education for everyone and alferov worked and melnikov, and afonin, and kashin, and smolin, our entire team worked magnificently , stalin worked, now we are introducing it, united russia is pushing away, although this should have been accepted a long time ago, everything is overripe, Gennady Andreevich, you talked about the countries with which you are now. Its clear for objective reasons that we especially we dont get involved because sanctions have been imposed on us and so on , but now i want to ask about other countries, countries such as the peoples republic of china, like vietnam, they recently, especially, received russian delegations, you in particular, too, were present and discussed a very wide range of issues, this interaction that we want to develop, naturally, i see that you are well informed, not only. I was present, i once flew with the president to china, to vietnam, on his plane, i insisted that our policy should not be directed to the east to the south, to focus on the americans, they decided to rob us and humiliate us, and now there is still a war in the russian world, and what do we, in your opinion, lack in our relations with ours . , that strategic, and those partners who are real partners, and i want to say, they have enough for a lot, so. The president met with sidinen more than 40 times, and sidenpen especially emphasized this at the next meeting, yesterday i thanked the president for the eastern and southern politics, he does a lot for this, by the way, this is extremely progressive and important, if we had not created brix and the sco, if we had not turned economic ties in this direction, our party has always worked, we signed both the agreement and the memorandum, now we are preparing for a threeyear period. We just returned from a trip to vietnam, the chairman and my first deputy melnikov flew there , by the way, they not only received them superbly, the leader of the country directly said that he studied with us, i studied with him at the academy, he is a talented person, and he does a lot for development of relations, the first thing he emphasized would be to develop strategic relations, in vietnam there are already 100 million. People and the highest rates of Development Together with china, they show that as for china, we built the first 156 factories, this year china will build 28 million cars, of all types and brands, at thirty automobile factories. We now need to add up our potential and move forward, its not a sin to learn, i would have done an internship with everyone there, it was interesting for me to see the entire oligarchy of our years together with the president , they didnt reprimand the republic of china, did not understand what the communist party was, but now they have seen with their own eyes that the country for 30 years has largely repeated the soviet experience, the soviet country has produced average rates for 30 years. 14 . China gave about 10 . These are the two best results, the results of a unique modernization. We raised the country to cosmic heights, the heights of victory, china brought 800 Million People out of complete poverty, i was there every 23 years, for 30 years in a row, my books were published there, they managed to absorb everything from the soviet experience, from the latest technologies, everything the entire first team of leaders studied with us, spoke excellent russian, i signed the First Agreement with him and agreed in principle, in my opinion, a very important contact has now emerged, but we must remember, one belt, one road, this third forum this is a unique phenomenon, 160 countries have signed, they will invest 21 trillion dollars, they have already invested more than a trillion, and we have the transip and seumour route and highways, and the latest technologies, aviation, and space, we can move. Go ahead, im sorry, the americans are rotten, look what they are they are doing in the world today, they started one war in our ukraine, with the hands of the nazis, benderites and outright fascists, now they are starting a big battle in the middle east, look at what madness they have reached, they are destroying both children and the elderly without conforming to anything, the americans could this disgrace should have been stopped a long time ago; a decision should have been made long ago to create a palestinian state and set it up normally. Here is just the news that arrived a few minutes ago, i will quote, marked urgent, tas Agency Reports the vote on the middle east resolutions of the United States and russia will take place on october 25. Russia offers a compromise, the United States offers everything but a compromise. In your opinion, how will this develop further . In the middle east, how do you generally assess it . Well, how tragic, i was everywhere there, i knew Saddam Hussein closely, i flew on behalf of the president before the war, then i reported the situation, i was the only one accepted, because the situation there smelled not just of war, you saw how it developed, i met mubarak, who was the president of egypt, he was the first to tell me, well, why are you abandoning trade relations with us, i taught you. We had to support them, mubarak with mamar gaddafi met in the desert, in his tent, in principle, the nato americans simply destroyed all these ties, they are trying to reshape the middle east today, the meaning is clear to me, 40 of the World Economy is supplied from oil and gas, which is in the persian gulf, now they see that many states do not want to live under dictation. Americans, tauds arabia did not even accept blinkin, he hung out there for a long time in this hallway, you see, now we are in a special position, the arab world, palestine, and israel trust us, a lot of our compatriots, and i deeply regret that no one can justify these terrorist attacks, this is an abomination this is a disgrace, but the reasons for this must be eradicated first of all, this is not. This is lawlessness, this is anger, this is violence, and when violence has been rolling on for years, it is impossible to expect calm behavior, look where humanity is going , imperialism and this capitalism, which is rotten, essentially transforms, dehumanizes, you and i need to take emergency measures, these are the proposals that our country has made, for humanism, for openness, for justice, for. An objective decision, they are extremely promising , but out of the six proposals that the president made at valdai, four are purely socialist, now there are two choices and humanity, or socialization, an example is shown by china and vietnam, in many ways by india, and brazil, and uar, now there were forums both african and latin american, we were supported by leftwing patriotic Popular Forces from 54 countries. Of africa, no one imposed sanctions, all the leading countries from latin america supported us, we were supported by almost all of asia, who on the other side, the americans with their rabid fascist policies, their vassals, who european states have become, on the one hand you say, with socialization, yes, that is , following socialism, on the other hand, or collectivist socialized ways that are based on. Justice, humanism, equality of rights, in general, quality education and training, or fascistization will be dictated by one master, here the americans are for. Iraq, afghanistan, they are sick of serbia, our task with you now is to unite efforts as much as possible and build socialized relations, in my opinion, putins last speech, on one belt, one way in china and in valdai testifies that politics has moved significantly to the left, he needs to select a team that. Is capable of carrying this out, because oligarchy and private property have never saved humanity will not be saved, i am for all forms of property, but the state cannot be a guardian of olgarchy property , it must have a powerful basis for solving industrial issues, here we had a director from novorossiya speak at the plenum, but no one will invest private owners in broken businesses. Including small mediumsized businesses will participate in this, we had a brilliant hearing on this subject, but the oligarchs will not solve anything, three or two pipes exploit the logging site and the subsoil of the earth, they havent made their own mobile phone in 20 years, about the book that is here on the table, which you sent today in convoy 118 to the donbass, already more than 20 thousand tons, 15,000 children received. We have prepared a wonderful military sports camp, we are conducting a two week rehabilitation of children, i just talked to your chairman, you are marching over the schools, well done, the children who ended up there in the war, they were disfigured by nazi philosophy, from the second grade they were taught to hate everything russian, soviet , folks, if you bring them here too show us what a Normal School is, red square, vdh, the cathedral of christ the savior, places of military glory of victory over fascism, these are other children, so we accept them all the time, and i must say, this is a very noble task, we send them every 34 days to donbass has everything we need, our oryol region has collected 2 billion, can you imagine, a region that helps, sponsors, does everything, and russians from the ulyanovsk region send huge shipments. Kanavalov from khakassia and koloto from novosibirsk also went there, we believe this the most noble thing, we have a congress with komsomo this week, komsomol pioneer is the best thing that has been created in the world from the point of view of the Youth Movement of patriotism education, they prepared it specially, today they sent a large patriotic library to schools, children, teachers, by the way, everything obliging regions, from there. Invite High School Students to the holidays to show what normal life is and what friendship of people is, children will absorb instantly, this is now task number one, this is the task of fighting terrorism, criminality with anything, congress i think your komsomo is taking place on the anniversary of 105 years, get better, well, here i am for my childhood, but we will have a wonderful meal, we have a stubborn youth leader, novikov and taisaevova created this organization, i invite you, cover it, you will like it, by the way, your channel most objectively and regularly shows our meetings , we had some talented children from lowincome families, a great concert, but if we were talking about Party Affairs and initiatives, of course, we wouldnt want to be here somehow lead the october plenum of the Central Committee to the side. Russian federation, which in october, which, when it took place, there was a seminar, peoples leaders for working among the masses, i must say, show us, we showed four films, there was a holiday called uyava, this is a National Holiday of the chuvazh people, it was on the territory of tatarstan, the whole country came, even from the baltic states, from ukraine, from moldova, transcaucasia, central asia, look at the happy faces. Who want to be friends, to work, we have National Enterprises kazankova about National Enterprises i wanted to ask, heres the experience of peopleS Enterprises, its great, ive just invited volodin, and matvienko, and mishustin, and the president , i say, let s show their experience, weve already shown once what their experience consists of, and experience is, well, lenins state farm has an average salary of 114,000, children are all free, kindergartens are unique. In kindergarten there are robotics and chess, schools, the whole cycle of industrial training from the kitchen to super modern technologies, industrial. Practice from second grade to graduation all forms training, support, starting from the pioneer camp, ending with the kindergarten and sports complex, we dont take a penny from the state , we direct money to the development of new technologies, the best robotic farm in the country, this is a unique experience that would allow the country to have the best products, the best social sphere, better salaries , wellgroomed pensioners, come and look, if we create such farms, at least one in each region, we will fill our products with cool products, low, at low prices and we will feed half the world with an ecologically clean product, this is the best thing that has happened, i want it to happen as soon as possible, help , help, i invite you in any way we can, thank you, thank you for this soullifting conversation, well, we are a party of historical optimism, so its great, Gennady Andreevich zyugano