Fisco. Thats how you pronounce his name. I know many of you are going to see this name from time to time. Youll see it so to speak. Oh, but its not. Its pronounced fisco. A significant player in europe and politics to say the very least, especially during the last year, we are told now that he is in a, as you might imagine, after seeing some of that video, just that short clip that we showed you moments ago he is in a life threatening condition right now, were going to re q this video so you can see it before we put it up there. Victor, youre going to see a man with a white shirt. Hes a 71 year old. Hes already been apprehended. Hes gonna come up, looks like on the right side of your screen. He comes up and, and then he started shooting at him. Hes shooting in a, in a downward direction, apparently 4 to 5 shots. Lets, lets watch this together. You see right there and they start to pick them down. I dont know if youre able to see just as it comes into the frame. The fisco had just finished speaking. He was checking hands with people in the crowd when this guy who looked like just another person in the crowd took out a gun and a shoot some uh lets, lets go through this and watch this one more time. Can you make that out . And the and then you can see how they start to pick them down. Just go ahead victor. Play that again. A, there it is. The. So that look thats, thats the moment that everyones going to be watching now. And authorities watched. After that they were able to apprehend the man. As you know, cisco is the Prime Minister of slovakia. Why is he . Why is slovakia so important . Why does this incident become so important at this particular point in time . Well, lets talk about that. Lets talk about slovakia, theres the map you may have seen moments ago as we go through this. When the soviet union broke up, many of the satellite countries became independent as we all remember, right. In, in the case of czechoslovakia, it was really divided into right. One side became what something called the church republic. Others like calling a church you and the other became slovakia, right . It has been for years, a country which has told the nato line but recently, and this is where this new story becomes important. Recently following the election of, of fisco, robert fisco, it changed with his pronouncement that he would no longer send arms to ukraine. And essentially was disagreeing with nato and the mostly european position. Basically, this a disagreeing with natos empty russian position. And in doing so, whos in joining . Well, hes joining hungry is victor or bob and a growing list of dissenters who are saying, no, theyre posing ukraines entry into nato. Well, also asking for truth in this conflict. They say this thing between russia and ukraine is ridiculous. We shouldnt be able to find an end to this thing. Thats what hes arguing, right . Thats what he was arguing up until he was almost shot. In fact, heres fiscal making that declaration. This is the original one he made. We had this on our show here, direct impact just right after it happened when he made this statement right after he had been elected here it is usage of when and how can i use that show up and it will from idaho on this just now is there something wrong with the dc, just ask you guys key flushes to use our b, r e, or which ill just get out of the seat and i will call you but im not the one i was. What do you need . My, you also started the switching each day. Im gonna do training a blue sutkowski racquel because theyre just gonna shut off the whole much a little scroll through another bus ship because theyre trying to leave even have to running on the brush them your channel, whos getting out of the students that i knew kinds of diversity still significant, which i do was 82 is associated with that, but i so, so basically what hes saying, and what hes telling that reporter is what you dont know the facts. I mean, im learning, theres a lot of things that are going on and you create that is not exactly the way its being presented by washington and not exactly the way that its being presented by nato. And thats this, that, thats the critical moment where he started to Say Something which was very different from the conventional wisdom that was taking place at the time. Busy throughout of europe, so that, that kind of sets the table for you. A lot of people watching this and say, okay, someones been assassinated, who is this guy . And why is the important . Thats kind of why hes important at this point, and were going to be talking to an expert in just a little bit whos going to relate more information, but uh okay, lets do this at this point. Weve got 2 more pieces of video that im gonna share with you. And i also want to bring in my colleague manila chan to help us go go through this video manila if you could come up. Um, you saw the 1st video, weve got 2 more pieces of video now. I think what were about to see here you and uh, is the aftermath of what happens after he shot where the people suddenly crowd the body. And then you see some of the secret Service People try literally lift them up and throw them into the back of a vehicle. So lets watch this. Here it is the so there he is in the middle of the and those are just civilians. By the way, those, those are just civilians that are, that are there on the ground. I think we may be able to queue up some video now of him, his secret service and his security details. If we have that, im not sure. Grabbing him and then throwing them in the back of the uh, in the back of the car. There it is. There it is that there he is. Now, theyre taking him, theyre putting them in the back of a security and theyre going to whisk him away. Interestingly enough to Roosevelt Hospital named for the president of the United States during world war 2. When it was, we watched this, your thoughts what youve learned, what youre reporting on this up to now. Yeah, obviously its hard to watch. Right. Rick. Somebody getting gun down like that, obviously are everybodys thoughts and prayers, whether you like him or dislike him, that he survives, you know, the, that was multiple gunshot wounds that he now worth noting. This is feet. Those 3rd go around as the premier. Yeah. They had parliamentary elections last fall of 2023 is found that his party, the smear, s. S d as theyre called winning and very quickly forming this Coalition Government and their for their whole platform. The smart city pledge to hold all military a to ukraine. They also denied being pro russian. Meanwhile, he had heard to the, well, you correction, you get a minute, you know, every day lab rob is a dear friend. You could, you could be against the war and not necessarily be on one side or the other. And i think this is the funny thing about this. I mean, the reason fisco has become suddenly someone known all throughout europe is because of this position in no way. Are we at this point saying that this position had anything to do with his being right . Shot or this assassination of that, right . Its, its way too early for any type of conjecture. It would be a responsible and thats not what were going to do. But it is noteworthy, if not newsworthy, that this is the position that he has held. And hes a bit of a maverick and having that position up to now. So yeah, hes lucky is not one that simply goes along to get along. Right. He is. Im average of sorts. Hes very, i know, i know is know hes very anti establishment motive. Right. Now, no, we dont know at this point exactly why this person did this. You know, were reading that there are reports coming out of the area. Thats just a very tense time in, in, in the country. And this guy is very much a populist, you know, you know, rick, it further to that. I mean, as im following this as this unfolding, i mean theres still a lot to look into about who the shooter or the alleged shooter is. What his motives are. We dont, in this point, however, what we do know, even though that it shows a government has come out very clearly against support a more war, expanding the war in ukraine. We just see tweets coming from people like ursula vander land, the commission president. She has said, you know, she condemns this vile. Its actually called a violet tap on the Prime Minister. She condemned any violence and thoughts and prayers. The nato boss just oldenburg. Same thing. Shocked and appalled by the shooting of the sister is what he said. He watches them think, well, ill lead recovery to it. Would it be . Can the spectrum tv . Yeah. To be fair. Im not sure any of them made those declarations, but i guarantee you that their press secretary or their lawyers run something you know, i mean, im sorry, but at a time like this, what do you expect that these people who yeah, are going to say who by the way did probably not necessarily like him or thats not fair. Mm hm. Who pro, who didnt like the positions that he had taken in fact, but let me add to that. Ive got Something Else i want to share with you what. What makes him interesting is that hes the kind of new brand of european liter. I mean this guy does not necessarily told the british line or the nato line. In fact, he almost appears to have a better understanding of the global south position held by countries like china and india, and brazil and russia. And this is not something most europeans gap, right . They all think its all about washington and london and, you know, and, and paris. Thats also why he doesnt hesitate. And just recently did so, here is criticizing his european neighbors for their ukraine strategy. Lets take a listen. I need to start seeing, i need to put a honda on the west seas. Then i suspect norms financial military assist the study of the spec sanctions degree is not able to resolve the military conflict. They pulled a short match on the battlefield. Look, im no expert manila on, on european relations and what people in europe think uh i, its tough enough for me to figure out whats going on here in washington in our own country. But i will tell you that this attitude, this proclamation that he made and the others hes made before that are, are, are not in keeping with the way most europeans think. Right. Yeah, i would say that this, his government, the Coalition Government is able to form within weeks is reflective of how at least the slovak, young voter feels about all stuff. So i think that shows that they support his ideals and the smart as these positions. And its important to note that there is a more right wing populism that is kind of sweeping europe, mary s s, d is actually populous left to explain it interest. So perhaps that lends some credibility to why they kind of lean over towards the Global Global view. Not, not too different from some of the things that were seeing in our own country as we prepare stories about both individuals on the left and the right will sometimes seem to make more sense than those who are the conventional politicians or the quote unquote establishment politician manila, thank you. Weve got a guest coming up in just a little bit and were going to take a break. But when we come back, i want to return to the latest on slovakia with an expert on the region who also happens to be in that area. George sam, welly is going to be joining us. You see him there on the screen. Hes an expert on this region and on a boat, slovakia, and hungry where he is now. Dont go away. George is going to join me in just a moment. The show seemed rom, just dont you have to shape out the application and engagement equals the trail. When so many find themselves will support. We choose to look for common ground, the known in vietnam, american war, the vietnam war lost its almost 2 decades and dragged in numerous countries. Nor does he have written down when you dont see it. Now, what is all on the empty hundreds of thousands of american troops who was sent to the country to back the south vietnamese on me. I bought that, not much. American soldiers, militant resistors mercilessly burned down entire villages and spread dangerous chemicals. And even lee by all right, did the americans ever fully acknowledge what they did on the vietnamese veterans ready to forgive . Yeah, yeah, yeah, thats that way. Its too late. But yes, french president , emanuel mcgraw and says hes advocating strategic ambiguity when it comes to the ukraine. This includes sending western military personnel to fight for ts. This is not strategic ambiguity, but rather strategic confusion, the water back on right. Sanchez joining us now is georgia. So im really a Senior Research fellow at the Global Policy institute and he is joining us from hungry george. Lets get to the details of this particular show that we are preparing right now is being produced hours before, or i should say, some of the, in other words, were going on a little bit early. So theres a possibility that this story will develop as we go by the time it ears. But from what we understand right now, he was shot several times. He was shot in the army shot in the leg. And of course, the biggest danger for him right now is the fact that he was also shot in the abdomen. They say he is in a life threatening condition. Hes still at the hospital and we know that the person who shot them the salem has been captured, but we really dont know much about him. Is there anything you can add to any of that for us . You know, i, until we find out a little over about who is this the same was what, what motivated him so its, its irresponsible to speculate. Its clear. First of all that, um a fee scope was a very controversial vega. And even in the clips that you showed me, the things he said actually went beyond the stuff that a victim or binds to think a or bun has also been very critical of the nature of e u stance on ukraine. But his position was much more mastic they, this will makes no sense. You know, its damaging us damaging our economy and we need to bring it to. And then what fisco was saying, however, was russians were killed by ukrainian just thats its accurate of and he clearly what happened to know that so hes, its an Accurate Accounts of what happened in 2014. But you can then see why he would have aroused an enormous amount of anger and hatred in the media have been peddling, list of anger and hatred towards him. Day of today, if you look at it like political magazine. Yeah, almost every day they publish and they dont worry about it. They did a couple of days ago. Oh jesus. Right to freedom easy. Ill blowing democracies out of ink media, freedom to slovakia. So its an ongoing thing. And, you know, with just speculating here, you know, when you get somebody who is mentally unstable and you get hit with this sort of propaganda, they all today, well, good for somebody over the age. He said something saturday that i thought was very interesting. Let me, uh, let me read you what the reporting is on this just just recently, just a few days ago, apparently fisco said on uh, saturday day, uh, the only way to end russias war against ukraine is for kia to give up some of its territory. And he reiterated his position, which is very different from the position being proclaimed by nato, the United States and other european countries. Um, what do you make of that declaration of bought by fisco saturday . It is obviously correct and its august the realistic position. Theres no other ways will can come to an end without ukraine is giving off time show up. Out of his search rate is the grand had an opportunity back in april 2022 basically bringing awards without losing any search at that moment. This boxed up that thats gone. So he was obviously things are listed. And again, you can see why. And i cause a lot of of distress among the people in slovakia, but people in europe. I mean that the upset and an emotional attachment to ukraine. Its is gone, it just cut the whole of the psychotic in europe now. Yeah, lets, lets watch this some of this video again. I think we have some of the aftermath video that we played earlier. And i just want to capture it if we can, as, as you and i are having this discussion and victor, our director, is going to have that on in, in the background. Because im just wondering from what we learned. He went and spoke at a cultural center. There it is. Thats the cultural center. Gave a short speech. Then he went out, people were waiting for him. He was a, he was a brace, the shook hands with people. He talked to them. What those politicians do, you know, uh, you know, kissing babies as we call it here in the United States. When this man just came out of nowhere with the gun and started shooting out of it. You, you say there is, theres the guy. And i counted at least 5 shots, you know, again thats could be ricochets, you never know, but thats how many i counted when i watched the video. Im just trying to put me in that head of the people who are living in that region now and, and why is there such attention . Why is there so much anger i was reading before i went on the air that the media seems to be of elevating this are the am. Why or was the geography slovakia had a bob of funder. It would kind of explains why the hungry like here are actually a rather close politically, culturally that geographically also very, very closely. And in the case of hungary, especially, are a real problem. There are a 150000 on gary and were in ukraine. So the world has a very personal meaning for how long it ends and for us to lock in. And they know that things get, you know, going, escalating in this sponsible way which is being peddled by the british and by the french a, by the polls that its going to be hungry. And slovakia to relatively small countries who are going to be the hardest hit because theyre going to be in the middle and theyre not interested in what they have. No, they dont have a dog in this fight. They will. And but the other ones are going to be in the heart of this kid. And, and he goes and it gives a hungry and hungry and nose it was dragged into, to, uh, was, and it was the blues in both was right. So you have to give up an awful tara trick in both. Well, look. So they want to say out, but this is causing a lot of distress. I mean, we, yeah, we, when we people like micro, openly talking about getting ascending French Forces into your groups. The british, were only talking, you know, you know, the dispatcher will storm shadows, stop collisions without weapons. Well, this disclosing regular things, id say because you know this, this is essentially moving inexorably towards will, between nature and so the idea of reduce smoke countries are going to get absolutely pallet. Oh, well, let me ask you this, cuz im curious in a case like this. Uh, obviously in the United States, uh, sans the j f. K assassination. And perhaps you assess the shipments brother. Usually the authorities co less f b i walks in. Sometimes they get other federal authori