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Do us have more than 100000. 00 navigators stand alone. That can be extremely concerning. And sadly, 2400 to never made it back home to United States. Lots and more than 20000 were wounded in action. What good was there sacrifice . Because within a year of the United States pulling out the taliban regime has almost again to full control of afghanistan. Again, the same could be also said following the withdrawal from Many American troops interact as well. Now, but following the attack, which killed 3 american soldiers in jordan, us military started a series of strikes, including 125. 00 munitions against 85. 00 militia targets in syria and a rack. And this might just be the beginning, as more and more pressure as being formed on the Current Administration to take more action. Now this is all while the United States troops station in the middle east, are there with the permission of each countrys government. Well, thats except for syria and was more than a 160. 00 recent attacks on us troops across a rack and serious since october, its apparent, the residents of the country are not as happy. So what exactly is United States doing was so many deployed Service Members to the middle east and whose interest are the exactly survey. Lets discuss about panel. Kind of rob manice, who is a former air force colonel and a radio talk show host as well. Scott ritter, a geo political analysts, and all ser former us military and un inspector. Thank you so much for joining the gentleman on this issue that weve been debating for decades. And yet here we still are. And what are the same situation . I want to start with you scott, what is the Main Objective of the United States of stationing american troops in syria and iraq in this present time . Well, i mean, we go back to be, i guess the beginning, the, the, the Carter Doctrine of the decision made that the, the middle east is an oil is the protection of oil supplies are the in the Strategic National interest of the United States. I was part of the marine corps Rapid Deployment force back in the 1980s ready to deploy on a moments notice. I deployed to saudi arabia during operation desert shield, desert storm to respond to a reaction, invasion of kuwait, the invasion that we made, the case threatened your Saudi Arabian oil fields in eastern saudi arabia, therefore triggering the need to intervene and the bit we sort of lost track and became not so much about securing the oil as um, saving face. Uh, we didnt get rid of Saddam Hussein after desert storm and for the next decade we uh, embarked on policies of regime change using United Nations sanctions to strangle saddam until we could build up a case for war for missed on a lie that got us involved in a conflict in 2003 a couple on that, the global warranty or 911 f ganna stand. Um, ill tell you what, we dont know why were in the middle. Sort of wrapped in this, in this legacy we, we were there. But the target keep moving and now were, were stuck. We, we cant articulate any reasonable premise for having troops in syria. Right . Were sustaining them. Okay. Presence direct. Well, scott and i wanna re chrome, yes. And other things. Lets go back to what you said, was it really sold to the American People . That the reason why we were sending our troops over there originally was for oil. I mean, i can understand it for national security. I can understand it for, to fight the war on terrorism tech. Vietnam was to fight this threat of communism. Was it really sold to the American People and did they understand that they were going over there as for oil and that original intent crow mannus way . Scott pointed out, rightly so, the are the original Strategic Vision of the United States for the area. I had it signing up the free flow of oil from the persian gulf was the vital National Interest for the United States. I was, well before i even the i told her took over, i ran and i believe so. Uh so yeah, thats exactly what the purpose was for the war a to a to, to boost or to boot saddam back out of to a course to 8. Im sorry, ray be, are kind of our clause i allies at the time too. So that didnt help anybodys case. It was opposing that, but today the day scotty is uh that is exactly what scott just said. We dont really have a mission on the sand in the middle east right now, and those troops should have been pulled out of there. Years ago. There should never have been american troops without the approval of congress in syria where they are still today. Then every regime, every, every administration is responsible for not doing the right things that lead to the desk. So those 3 soldiers, now we, its debatable about the, you know, the u. S. Navy task force that with the coalition now trying to protect her, most of shipping in the red sea, from the who, the terrorist and iranian backed the course up. But we even be there at all with our naval fleet. If we didnt still say that we needed to do things like keep vices from recreating itself after the Trump Administration completely destroyed it or protect those oil fields in northern syria. Protect them for who, from who. I mean theyre not doing us any good. And it just raises the, the issue in a positive life, but why we should be going back to being energy dominant because is none of these places really matter except for, from an alliance perspective nowadays. Then they did the back in the day when we said, hey, the free flow of oil coming out of the persian gulf is our vital interest. We did that on the heels of the gas shortages, etc. So the politicians were able to get away with it. But today, theres no emission, those soldiers shouldnt have been there on that the, on that ground. And we should be pulling out right now. Unfortunately, its going to look bad for us. So the generals, im sure, advise and present advice, not to do it because weve just had a bunch killed. Oh, by the way, those 85 targets, we hit, we telegraph to the iranians and their people. What we were going to do and where we were going to hit. So we hit a bunch of empty holes, probably the name and destroyer, but maybe one or 2 percent of their command and control and communications equipment. Okay, so that bridge, the question right now is scott, you can is military intelligence just as not making comments as we are warning those before we strike them. We are, we dont necessarily have a Clear Mission as to why were there. So what is the actual thinking and who is actually pulling these triggers to keep the United States in these fields, protecting these oil fields, especially knowing that the series of aaron drunk strikes and a rock and it gets ronnie approx these theres heard that, like i said, the Iraqi Government will be asked to will ask us to leave for you. What does this mean in regards to the region . If americans are ordered to leave, will they actually do so, considering theres not a clearly defined mission at this point as well. You mentioned military intelligence, you know, military intelligence supports an operational objective. And um, you know, you build a collection plan. You, you, you, you gather information, you assess it and then you, you brief, your, your, your, your leaders, military leaders, political leaders. Um, you know, at that point in time they have to make decisions. Uh, you know, this isnt that Intelligence Driven war is kurt mcmahon has pointed out. Um, you know, intelligence gave 85 targets. But what, what was the purpose of the targets where you test with providing targets that would degrade the mobile relocatable of, you know, targeting or targets the missiles model, missiles of the hoody. Or were you tacitly providing 85 points on the ground that could be struck in achieve a political objective of appeasing and american audience that was outraged by the, you know, 3 dead soldiers. We just dont know. Lets look at syria for a 2nd. Why are we there . Ostensibly, were there because isis uh, originated from serious spreading out through western iraq to move 0 in 2014 down to decrypt. We intervened in our rack with the permission of the i could government to form an anti cyst coalition. Among of which i need to point out was iran in the could force. Theres an iconic photograph taken outside of to create showing american soldiers on one side of the road and custom sumani in the goods leadership on the other side of the road. Because we were fighting together allied against isis. We re took moses o, we push onto the syrian border, and now we cross into syria, ostensibly to finish the job. But this is where it gets complicated because to finish the job we have to make common cause. With a kurdish force, the y p g a, its all alphabet soup up here, but they are literally an extension of the p k k. Another alphabet soup. But those are turkish curtis groups that we call terrorists. And now in order to fight isis a legitimate terrace group, were making common cause with a terrorist group that weve designated. So we rename them the Syrian Democratic forces. And now were in this battle. But the Syrian Democratic forces have control over an important part of syria, then this, these, the northeastern part, where oil fields exist, oil fields that had been sustaining isis outside up. And now we sought to keep to sustain the Kurdish Forces that were now or allies, even though theyre terrorist. Isis has been destroyed, but we were using the Kurdish Forces as a mechanism to achieve an unspoken objective regime change in damascus. Were seeking to remove by cheryl, aside from power. We were using one of the reasons why isis existed is because we turned a blind guy to their creation because we found it to be useful in the process of the stabilizing syria. Now we had to target isis, so we had to replace them with something as isis was defeated, the Syrian Forces began to expand, and they said they were gonna take control of the jordanian border and the rocky board. And we couldnt allow that to happen. So we moved into syria outcome for 2nd bastion, where we literally made alliance with the pro i sis siri and tribes in the region, but diverting their attention from attacking us to attacking the syrian government. We are state sponsors of care on siri and soil today in our 3 soldiers who died died in the mission of supporting isis terrorist. We call them Something Different today, but there isis terrorist for the purpose of getting rid of, by sure all of a sudden, a mission that the United States congress has not said is a legitimate mission. So the colonel is 100 percent. Correct. We have americans Service Members in arms way dying for a mission that has no constitutional authority. And thats the problem right now because i think i would almost need a diagrams for the different groups are talking about. But scott, what scott brings up to very good point that we are, have actually arm some of the same people that are fighting is. So i go to chrome, man is on this. How much does the American People understand . Also, how much does a bite in ministration understand as they continue to handle the situation with the he was these were going to bring in young men into this situation. How much did they recognize . What is really happening on the ground will be your 2nd question. Ill answer 1st, i think the by the administration and the team running the country fully understand because there are allies of iran. Okay. That explains some of the moves that theyve made. They are allies of our read that keep in mind whats got just said he just called out the american government, which one of its visions, it says it has this to prevent the, the reformation of the isis caliphate. And were actually allied with isis supporting terrace in this region. Think about that. The American People have no idea about that. But the Us Government does have an idea about that. And those 3 americans died without a mission. The 2nd part of the mission they say is that were, were there to enter the supply lines of the Iranian Forces in equipment and, and material and intelligence going into, uh, support come off. Well, when is the last time the United States armed forces in any way even in special operations, rage did anything to irans logistics and supply lines through that part of the world. I challenge you to find me one independent report that states that weve ever done that. And thats because we have not done that. We are on the wrong side there. We have our people in harms way intentionally, and they need to be got an offer that drowned right now. We can reset to a strategic location. We have all the capability in the world to do those kinds of things. And if we need to do things like were doing in the red sea to protect commercial shipping, we have that capability, but we dont have to put our soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines and coast guardsmen in physical danger, of incessant and costs that attack from the iranian militias. Just because they happened to be there and they happened to be backing the wrong side. Okay, were going to take a quick break because when we come back, i can do this conversation. I want to interject into the new thing with is real and what role theyre playing, as well as the binding ministration, as they continue to escalate the tensions within the middle east. The take a fresh look around his life. Kaleidoscopic isnt just a shifted reality distortion by power to vision with no real opinions. Fixtures, design to simplify will confuse really once a better wills, and is it just because it shows you fractured images, presented to this, but can you see through their illusions, going underground . Can ok welcome back. Im sky now heres an youre watching the 360 view. Lets bring back in our panel, colonel robert, manage the former air force colonel radio show host, as well as scott ritter, 8 geo political analyst, author, and former u. S. Military and un inspector. Before the break, we were starting to get into this idea of israel and the escalating conflict that is going on between israel and casa. How is that effected . The dynamic in the middle east, as obviously, as you 1st started out, scott talked about was a ron. Uh, where is that changing any of your, your friends, our photos based on the recent events and developments in israel. The 1st of all, we have to understand that is real considered itself to be in a strategic conflict with the wrong. But its a conflict that israel knows that it cannot militarily initiate and sustain without the assistance of the United States. So one of is real strategic objectives as always, been to create a scenario that would get to United States to take the lead in military action against the wrong that israel could dovetail a lot of United States determines that the wrong poses a threat to our extra central survival that warrants military actions. So be a, thats an issue the congress should discuss. And um, and then then the American People can, can get behind if thats the direction we want to go. But i, i take umbrage at the notion that the United States goes to war because another nation is, know, join us in that direction without the advice and consent of congress or the American People. That im somebody who spent a lot of time in that region. And a lot of time. Ready with israel, i used to consider israel to be, you know, a friendly nation despite the us this liberty attack, despite jonathan pollard. Despite apex intervention in american elections. Um, you know, i, i felt that we had your common cause in terms of stability. But when you take a look at what israel is today under the leadership of Benjamin Netanyahu in this far right wing government. Um i, i just think the American People need to reflect on whos calling the shots and its not the United States government yet. Its American Military forces that are being deployed be called into action. And again, if, if we need to go to war, if we need to take military action is United States to protect our Vital National security interest. So be it. But we should have an honest discussion about this right now. I just think this entire is really scenario is a of a situation that, you know, israel is foisting on us and were, were getting blurred into a trap that, you know, we may find ourselves with a lot more dead americans and wondering how the heck this happened and that is my concern on this because 2 way r d was, let me ask chrome is do you feel like the American People are being told the truth of what exactly is happening with in the gaza and is real conflict right now. And the role that runs playing and a do feel like were being told what is actually happening on the ground. The American People are being told the truth about pretty much any subject in these days. Got a, i mean, its got the right look. You know, i support the, the,

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