The printed job i is looking to fuel his re election bid within or doors limit for one of the nations biggest stars taylor swift. Meanwhile, donald trump is se if taylor and doors has biden, it would be just loyal because he quote, made her so much money. A donald trump is trying to tell his donors, he is more popular than the International Pop star, and his base is larger and more loyal than this with these army that trump enjoys a base of supporters who have proven and movable. The swiss fans have also become known for their die hard commitment to are now one Instagram Post from the center about National Voter registration de caused a 1226 percent increase in traffic to the website. She directed it to vote dot org. The non parson, non profit Record Record in more than 35000 registrations as a 23 percent jump from the mid terms Election Year of 2022. This isnt the 1st time donald trump and taylor swift have traded words back in 2018. Taylor swift we came out against tennessee said, are Marshall Blackburn and told her band to vote for the opponent a democrat, the in about 25 years. But im not so old. Remember when the 1st crossover of pop culture into politics actually cause career ending damage . The year was 2003. And on a stage in london, Natalie Maines of the popular country band, formerly known as the dixie chicks, spoke to the crowd just days before the invasion of iraq, british and the president united states. This statement once published by the guardian started a domino effect of music and concert sales plummeting and major sponsors like lifting ice t, pulling their promotional contract with the group. And while that single event might have hurt the dixie chicks standing in the music business, the attention is rude of politics and pop culture. Show the power celebrities garner to not only put a spotlight on an issue, but more important persuading ideology onto there during fans. You know, this power has only been amplified by technology and the development of social media. Lets discuss how pop culture is going to play in the 2024 election with our guess. Dusty k robinson, Health Professional do, and media analyst and media and political analysts. Line, oh, thank you so much for joining me. Indeed. Okay, so this is someone might consider a very superficial topic. I mean, obviously pop culture is going to have an effect on politics. However, im gonna start with you, jesse. Do you think we are overestimating or under arrest me . The effect pop culture has on Politics Today. I dont know if we could necessarily say that it can be over or under estimated. I think its relative to what we have come to understand about the infusion of Popular Culture and media within the landscape. I think its always been a part of it in 3rd world countries where there had been high level levels of illiteracy. They had always used radio to inform citizens about candidates. Even the roll out of the b, b. C, increased watership in the 1920s. And weve had a succession of media and Popular Culture infused. I mean, you could look all the way from not necessarily the news in the 1980s to editorial cartoons to mtv is rosabelle wrote in, in the ninetys, even s and l. Sketches and weekend updates have always had a highlight and a commentary around politics. And that is often times how people even learn about some of the issues that are being raised. It is through Popular Culture. But why know, you know, in the last 20 years people have said they get their news and their information more from a place like Comedy Central than from the 5 pm news has pop, culture change and the influence it has on politics. Whether before people now look to the source of information, not necessarily just a source of humor. Well, 1st of all, to segregate as somehow different or for the legitimate, i think is incorrect. You know, the right part doctrine says that politics is down stream from culture. And the emphasis here is popular called or, you know, a couple of things happened. You mentioned the dixie chicks sometimes in effect, doesnt work as thought the dixie chicks went against a well we thought was a rather unpopular perhaps republican president george bush, that didnt work. Kathy griffin came out against donald trump. She was black bone who can figure this thing out. Neil young decided to go after joe rogan, regarding his dodge his flip and allegedly flipping comments regarding vaccines in the light. And joe rogan was forced to issue an apple load just threatening to pull him. So since the days of frank capra, and by the way, pop culture, but proud culture, as in propaganda during world war to capture a warner, everybody use movies. So i would respectfully submit the pop culture is more important. Then quote, news media, especially with dwindling news rooms being shuttered daily. But how do you keep the standard then to be something that youre not having this invitation of propaganda isnt. If youre wondering, is this, thats what people are going to be looking for. How do you keep a standard of whats the truth and not, and whats the detector of that does see if i knew the answer to that, i bottle and sell it, and id be a wealthy woman. I think that power always is what dictates what is popular, what is politically relevant. And so i think the question is really cool. Has the who has the power and whos to say where the winds will blow, what, whats the liberty will get cancelled . You know, which im not sure if i even agree. Oh idea. Cancel culture. I think the accountability culture is probably more in line with what uh, you know, that is and i would say that and i think that i would agree, i think that Popular Culture, it lives in the imagination of people well. And thats the thing. Why know . Because some people look out and go, you know, it would keep at a keep athletics separate from pop, coal, or from politics. Keep news except for separate from politics i. They look to the elements that make up pop culture to escape politics. Is that just unrealistic . Before a football game, there are examples of military and fly overs and the national ends and what are the natural ends im have to do with the baseball game . I never even understood that one. And the idea, you know, we, sometimes you are my generation. I remember um Walter Cronkite and that was the Gold Standard. Walter cronkite was dod uh cnn. I remember when seen and 1st started, that was the that was the Gold Standard episode. Terrific. Then we have don lemon case closed book. You may like something. Laugh at something you may consider a song to be relevant from stephen stills. His song for what its worth with. Buffalo springfield became the anthem against the vietnam war, a song, it was always used to punctuate what people say Popular Culture and news are the same. You might look at something in, by the way, sometimes people in our world will look heartily at social media or something with a rapper or a song or a senior. As the old news, what did they know . And thats not the truth. Excuse me. What is the truth . You define that one . Tell me what is valid. I know people who look at their phone and if its facebooks book as long as theyre getting something. But you do one thing and i say about it. Either you get on board or just forget about it because you better understand this is a new world, a completely new world. Well into line those point debbie, are you right . Yes. I agree with them and my, my mind is blown with how much i agree with you all, but, i mean, even think about the Martin Luther king holiday. There were so many people, you know, we sort of have the same media about how a vitriolic people were against Martin Luther king and what and, and how many lea. But now they are heroes that Martin Luther king holiday was had to go through so many rounds of congress and it was when Stevie Wonder came out with this happy birthday song that really turn the tide. So in that case, you say that pop culture are obviously issues change, but at the same time we dont trust the media. We dont trust the politicians. Could you say that people now are going to start looking at elements of pop culture because they are becoming so infused and not trust that movies have an agenda. Now, anything on netflix . Because the obama zur behind it, people dont for us because its pushing a certain narrative or agenda. Same thing with music. Is that not a danger, lionel . A, what do you say 2 things . What is the most important things that never happened regarding one of the most important red po, subject of my life. And thats what j f k, assassination was oliver stones j. Okay. Theres a movie change that im leaving. Where did this approach her film debut on the horizon, rivera shell like 9075. I dont they all just a is of the, and im, and i love to tell this to my, for i just basically the business. One of the most important and, and size make events that happened recently was kat williams auto club che shay, that completely change every thing in terms of how we view this tucker carl, since interview with vladimir bowden, just with world, why do this is causing conventional Mainstream Media to say, wait a minute, what are we doing in terms of numbers and metrics and excitement . You cant beat that, but most people in the News Business a well thats not it. Whos those art journalist . Oh, really more people know who they are then who is the people who, who laugh at them are . Well, the good news is our audience. So who the 2 of you are and youre going to stay . Because after the break, when we come back, were going to look at how social media platforms like facebook and acts have always super sides. The power pop culture has in Politics Today the the welcome back. Youre watching 360 view and im a sky now. Hes no jazz k junior used a Magazine Article to help promote literacy in the community. There wasnt any backlash. In fact, he was praised for this innovative idea. Are way beyond the point where pop culture can be used to make the world an actual better place. Or is that unrealistic . Utopian thinking was ask or panel rubber. Bryce in a grade joins as jesse k, robinson, a Health Professor duleigh and media analyst. And of course line or media and political analysts, thank you so much for joining us right here. Welcome to the party. You are a person who has benefited from pop culture and politics crossing over your as known within the right to the prior. But definitely your, your in your creation of a song about trump major named more of a household name, especially amongst trump support span. Ill try to like get in that way. But do you feel like we should be using pop culture in more responsible ways influenced Good Behavior . Not necessarily political, ideological positions. Of course, i havent even made a political song necessarily in like years ive been focusing on more family messaging and messaging around my face. And bad things, they hate people in their heart more. I think the issue of pop culture and politics and other things as you do have to do it in a positive way. We have to create our own celebrities and our, our pop culture icons because the industry is not gonna let us do it. Ive had multiple billboards, harding phones, and that they still dont letting me anywhere close to certain areas because my messaging is too controversial, and your messaging is usually like, have family values controversial. Thats whats interesting about this, jesse and your case, when you look at it, should there be any accountability when pop culture gets it wrong and they later have to backtrack kind of what they should they apologize at least. I think apologies with the actions are really what matter, and i dont know if i missed this. I really think that pop culture icons should be responsible for being role models. But what i do think is that people with very large prep platforms should be responsible for what they have power to do. And, and that includes in citing riots and is creating chaos in concerts. I think that you have to be responsible for the reach and the in the spread of your platform for them thats interesting is ill bring in the legal side of it. Line old. Theres currently several trial is going on a rap artist that they are putting the blame for a rise in violent crimes, specific crimes industries based on the lyrics of certain music. Theyve also tribute, obviously the video games to the mass school shootings. Are we in 3 . Is should there be a form of law that has to deal with this sector . Absolutely not. The listen. Ive been listening to this since in my days when they were playing, paul is dead, supposedly, if you could play the beatles records backwards and why anybody would play them backwards. I have no idea that there was ozzy osborne, theres a big with rap. I remember to live group, i remember talking to luke skywalker, whatever years ago in, in, in, in florida. And i said this is a song. Now i may listen to a song about violence and not be violent. What if i listen to the bible . What if i took the message of watch daughters and i were not an advocate . Incest. I mean, at a band, the bible right now, as we speak, mind comp is in the new york public library, but they want to, thats ok. Listen when we get into book burning and information, if you dont like it, turned it off. Well, and thats the thing, bryce. And because you have seen the calling and the blaming of politicians who have recognized how powerful pop culture is having their corner or should the resume blame place on a population who can be persuaded by celebrities so easily to vote just because their favorite person tells them to i think both deserves some responsibility as a rap artist. I mean theres levels you have wrapped in the form of drill wrap, where theyre literally talking about crimes and talking about real people that died. Im talking about real people that they have cute and real gain wars. I do think that clearly they are a means of crimes on songs. While being there is levels to it, as well as taking responsibility. If you have influence, you know, you have influence. What are you doing with your influence now . They shouldnt be legally responsible in any way, but they shouldnt be called out. They should be rebuilt and they should be exposed and hopefully people recognize that and follow the light rather than the dark. Well, it does say, obviously social media platforms, the last 20 years havent grown the reach that even grass roots, people apart, pop culture influencers. Now you have political influence, areas that are on all platforms. What role do you see the social media platforms playing . And do you think the platforms themselves have any responsibility in regards to finding what is considered to be this information that is being pushed from their specific form . I think social media has a wide reach. I think it, it has the power for great, good. And with that kind of power, it can easily be swayed for harm. And so i do think that there should be continue to be moderators on these path on these platforms. I think its absolutely important and i think when missed information and this information and purposeful lies and harm is being disseminated to people. I think theyre after be moderators on these platforms. And yet we saw a line on john curry came out and said, is actually that to talk is too dangerous. And you have seen bands being pushed amongst the federal government among state governments to ban tech talks. The, the app to talk from peoples phones that are government paid for yet apps just recently show by themselves and is campaign jointed talk seriously fighting to break the seasons of the cheats and make the superbowl or the chief just being at the football game. Then trouble for supper, but you can buy the president and sending a message to americans about the nash about the safety of tick tock. By doing, id have to refer you to the campaign on that. The 2nd, nothings changed about the National Security concerns from the indices perspective, about the use of tick tock on government devices that policy is still in place. How may i understand this . Every leave tick, tock alone and twitter an x, and its a, thats a billboard, thats i st. Banning radio or banning the phone. Let me just make one comment that our colleagues said in no way, am i ever going to advocate or allow if i have anything to say with a moderator to determine what is true and one is not true . What is missing information, this information, Data Information or what is hate speech . What is uh a vile, what could no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, everything you say i promise you, you cannot say anything that i cannot refute rebuke. And were there any way of a challenge in terms of the verity, if you we saw this during cove it, we saw people who said, i have an opinion regarding i respected and you would have thought these were the people advocating heresy for gods sake. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Listen, i want to live in a country where i have this thing called the 1st amendment. And the 1st amendment is this wonderful idea that says, if you dont like what i say, challenge me, tell me im wrong, go up against me or, or turn off that which im say, i love when people used to say that we should have readings on albums remember that should be ready . G was tipper gore against frank zappa and davi. Osman said thanks a lot. Now nobodys going to buy my record because it says g. So no, im going to have to generally put something in there that i didnt want to in order to sell it. So you can have a bunch of do gooders. This is america, say, what ever you want. I have never been harm, but anything anybodys ever said might have had my feelings hurt, but ive never been harmed. If i dont like it turn it. 7 off simple, im a big they have the people who have been hard, like things that have been said and it is mostly bored. You know, i want people of come name or name one name or what do you mean . Name one person who have been hired by people have found it. You tell me, yeah, i mean, lets talk about january 6th when somebody came out and sprained about revolution. And now we have a whole case of why this 3 speech free speech has limit