For their die hard commitment to are now one Instagram Post from the center about National Voter registration de caused a 1226 percent increase in traffic to the website. She directed it to vote dot org. The non parson, non profit Record Record in more than 35000 registrations as a 23 percent jump from the mid terms Election Year of 2022. This isnt the 1st time donald trump and taylor swift have traded words back in 2018 taylor swift. We came out against Testing Center marshall blackburn, and told her band to vote for the opponent a democrat. The orders in about 25 percent less but im not so old. Remember when the 1st crossover of pop culture and politics actually cause career ending damage . The year was 2003 and on a stage and london, Natalie Maines of the popular country band, formerly known as the dixie chicks, spoke to the crowd just days before the invasion of iraq, british and the president United States. This statement once published by the guardian started a domino effect of music and concert sales plummeting and major sponsors like lifting ice tea, pulling their promotional contract with the group. And while that single event might have heard the dixie chicks standing in the music business, the attention is rude of politics and pop culture. Show the power celebrities garner to not only put a spotlight on an issue, but more important persuading ideology onto there during fans. You know, this power has only been amplified by technology in the development of social media. Lets discuss how pop culture is going to play in the 2024 election with our guess. Dusty k robinson, Health Professional do, and media analyst and media and political analysts. Line, oh, thank you so much for joining me. Indeed. Okay, so this is somewhat might consider a very superficial topic. I mean, obviously pop culture is going to have an effect on politics. However, im gonna start with you, jesse. Do you think we are overestimating our under estimate . The effect pop culture has on Politics Today . I dont know if we could necessarily say that it can be over or under estimated. I think its relative to what we have come to understand about the infusion of Popular Culture and media within the landscape. I think its always been a part of it in 3rd world countries where there had been high level levels of illiteracy. They had always used radio to inform citizens about candidates and even the roll out of the bbc increased watership in the 1920s. And weve had a succession of media and Popular Culture infused. I mean, you could look all the way from not necessarily the news in the 1980s to editorial cartoons to empties these rock. The boat wrote in, in the ninetys, even s and l. Sketches and weekend updates. Have always had a highlight and a commentary around politics, and that is often times how people even learn about some of the issues that are being raised. It is through Popular Culture. But why know, you know, in the last 20 years people have said they get their news and information more from a place like comedy central. Then from the 5 pm news has pop culture change and the in fluids. It has on politics. Whether before people now look to the source of information, not necessarily just a source of humor. Well, 1st of all, to segregate as somehow different or, or illegitimate, i think is incorrect. You know, the right part doctrine says that politics is down stream from culture and the emphasis here is Popular Culture or, you know, a couple of things happen. You mentioned the dixie chicks sometimes in effect, doesnt work as thought the dixie chicks went against a well we thought was a rather unpopular perhaps republican president george bush, that didnt work. Kathy griffin came out against donald trump. She was black bone who can figure this thing out. Neil young decided to go after joe rogan, regarding his dodge his flip into the allegedly flipping comments regarding vaccines and the light and joe rogan was forced to issue an apple load. You are threatening to pull him. So since the days of frank capra, and by the way, pop culture, but perhaps the culture, as in propaganda, during world war to capture a warner, everybody use movies. So i would respectfully submit the pop culture is more important than quote news media, especially with dwindling news rooms being shuttered daily. But how do you keep the standard then to be something that youre not having the separation of propaganda isnt. If youre wondering, is this, thats what people are going to be looking for. How do you keep a standard of whats the truth and not, and whats the detector of that dusky . No. If i knew the answer to that i bottle and sell it, and id be a wealthy woman. I think that power always is what dictates what is popular, what is politically relevant. And so i think the question is really, who has the, who has the power and whos to say where the winds will blow, what, whats the liberty will get cancelled . You know, which im not sure if i even agree the whole idea of chancel culture. I think account ability, culture is probably more in line with what uh, you know, that is and i would say that and i think that i would agree, i think that Popular Culture, it lives in the imagination of people well. And thats the thing. Why know . Because some people look at and go, you know, keep at a keep athletics separate from pop, coal, or from politics. Keep music separate, separate from politics i, they look to the elements that make a pop culture to escape politics. Is that just unrealistic . Before a football game, there are examples of military and fly overs and the national and then what does the National Anthem have to do with the baseball game . I never even understood that one. And the idea, you know, we sometimes you are my generation. I remember um Walter Cronkite and that was the Gold Standard. Walter cronkite was dod uh cnn. I remember once the and then 1st started, that was the that was the Gold Standard episode. Terrific. Then we have don lemon case closed book. You may like something. Laugh its something you may consider a song to be relevant from stephen stills. His song for what its worth with. Buffalo springfield became the anthem against the vietnam war, a song, it was always used to punctuate what people say Popular Culture and news are the same. You might look at something in, by the way, sometimes people in our world will look heartily at social media or some, a rapper or a song or a senior as the old news. What did they dont . And thats not the truth. Excuse me. What is the truth . You define that one . Tell me what is valid. I know people who look at their phone and if its facebooks book as long as theyre getting something. But you do one thing and i said logics. Either you get on board or just forget about it because you better understand. This is a new world, a completely new world. Well and to line those point definitely i have the right. Yes. I agree with them and my, my mind is blown with how much i agree with you all, but, i mean, even think about the Martin Luther king holiday. There were so many people, you know, we sort of have the same media about how a vitriolic people were against Martin Luther king and what and, and how many lea. But now they are heroes that Martin Luther king holiday was had to go through so many rounds of congress and it was when Stevie Wonder came out with this happy birthday song that really turn the tide. So in that case, you say that pop culture are obviously issues change, but at the same time we dont trust the media. We dont trust the politicians. Could you say that people now are going to start looking at elements of pop culture because they are becoming so infused and not trust that movies have an agenda. Now, anything on netflix . Because the obama zur behind it, people dont for us because its pushing a certain narrative virgin. Same thing with music. Is that not a danger, lionel . What do you say 2 things . What is the most important things that never happened regarding one of the most important red po, subject of my life. And thats what j f k, assassination was oliver stones j. Okay. Theres a movie change that im leaving. Where did this approach her film debut on the horizon, rivera shell like 9075. I dont. They all today is of the, and im, and i love to tell this to my, for i just basically to visit one of the most important and, and, and size make event that happened recently was kat williams auto club che shay. That completely change every thing in terms of how we view this tucker carl, since interview with vladimir bowden, just with world wide, this is causing conventional Mainstream Media to say, wait a minute, what are we doing in terms of numbers and metrics and excitement . You cant beat that, but most people in the News Business a well fetched not lose those art journalist. Oh, really more people know who they are. Then who is the people who, who laugh as them are . Well, the good news is our audience. So who the 2 of you are and youre going to stay because after the break, when we come back, were going to look at how social media platforms like facebook and ex, have only super sides. The power pop culture has in Politics Today the when i was just on the safe house and engagement because the trail when so many find themselves will support, we choose to look for Common Ground the of the truth and eclipse, the daily news cpd with the story page go level the use of solutions, stuff. You see the shifting. Its because each time she couldnt, miller will collect the cpg for could be susceptible to discredit. The dizzy on this before they have to do is to make sure that even you create, excuse that arguing as much as 40 stories of disposable green some. The doors not say that the dots conflicting the website by pushing of centuries ago. Your 4 bears name, this country ukraine or frontier because your steps blink, europe, and asia, the ukrainians that become frontiersman of another. So these people will be able to send these will be some of those, whichever i most of them theres always, you know, going to try to jump to the most goals and would have been data that some of the headlights maybe logistical man joe point on the post co pays gift to 2nd the well have to. Okay. And the step on the, the welcome back. Youre watching 360 view and im a sky. No, hes no jazz k junior use the Magazine Article to help promote literacy in the community. There wasnt any backlash, in fact, he was praised for this innovative idea. Are we beyond the point where pop culture can be used to make the world an actual better place . Or is that unrealistic . Utopian thinking . I was ask her panel, rubber brice, and grade joins as dusty k robinson a Health Professor dula and media analyst and of course line o media and local analysts. Thank you so much for joining us for ice and welcome to the party. You are a person who has benefited from pop culture and politics crossing over your as known within the right to the prior. But definitely your, your in your creation of a song about trump major named more of a household name, especially amongst trump support span. Ill try to like, get in that way, but do you feel like we should be using pop culture in more responsible ways influenced Good Behavior . Not necessarily political, ideological positions. Of course, i havent even made a political song necessarily in like years ive been focusing on more family messaging and messaging around my face. And best seems they hate people in their heart. More of the issue of pop culture and politics and other things as you do have to do it in a positive way. We have to create our own celebrities in our old pop culture icons because the industry is not gonna let us do it. Ive had multiple billboards, harding phones, and that they still dont letting me anywhere close to certain areas because my messaging is too controversial, and your messaging is usually like, have family values controversial. Thats whats interesting about this, jesse and your case, when you look at it, should there be any accountability when pop culture gets it wrong and they later have to backtrack kind of what they should they apologize at least. I think apologies with the actions are really what matter, and i dont know if i missed this. I really think that pop culture icons should be responsible for being role models. But what i do think is that people with very large prep platforms should be responsible. Busy for what they have power to do and, and that includes in citing right. Its and is creating chaos in concerts. I think that you have to be responsible for the reach and the, and the spread of your platform for them. Thats interesting, and ill bring in the legal side of it line old. Theres currently several trial is going on a rap artist that they are putting the blame for a rise in violent crimes, specific crimes industries based on the lyrics of certain music. Theyve also attribute, obviously to video games to the mass school shootings. Are we in 3 . Is should there be a form of law that has to deal with this sector . Absolutely not. The listen. Ive been listening to this since in my days when they were playing, paul is dead, supposedly. If you could play the beatles records backwards and why anybody would play them backwards. I have no idea. And it was ozzy osborne, theres a be with rap. I remember to i grew up, i remember talking to Luke Skywalker whatever years ago in, in, in, in florida. And i said this is a song. Now i may listen to a song about violence and not be violent. What if i listen to the bible . What if i took the message of watch daughters and i went on an advocate incest. I made it a band. The bible right now as we speak, mind comp is in the new york public library, but they want to, thats ok. Listen when we get into book burning and information, if you dont like it, turned it off. Well, and thats the thing, bryce. And because you have seen the calling and the blame, you have politicians who have recognized how powerful pop culture is having their corner or should the resume blame place on a population who can be persuaded by celebrities so easily to vote, just because their favorite person tells them to i think both deserves some responsibility as a rap or does that mean theres levels you have wrapped in the form of drill wrap, where theyre literally talking about crimes and talking about real people that died and talking about real people that they have killed and real game wars, i do think that clearly they are a means of crimes and songs while being their levels to it, as well as taking responsibility. If you have influence, you know, you have influence. What are you doing with your influence . Now they shouldnt be legally responsible in any way, but they should be called out. They should be rebuilt and they should be exposed and hopefully people recognize that and follow the light rather than the dark. Well, and does say obviously social media platforms, the last 20 years havent grown the reach that even grass roots, people apart, pop culture influencers. Now you have political influence, ers, that are on all platforms. What role do you see the social media platforms playing . And do you think the platforms themselves have any responsibility in regards to finding what is considered to be this information that is being pushed from their specific form . I think social media has a, a wide reach. I think it, it has the power for great, good. And with that kind of power, it can easily be swayed for harm. And so i do think that there should be continue to be moderators on these path on these platforms. I think its absolutely important, i think when missed information and this information and purposeful lies and harm is being disseminated to people. I think theyre asked to be moderators on these platforms, and yet we saw a line on john curry came out and said, is actually that to talk is too dangerous. And you have seen bands being pushed amongst the federal government. Im a state governments to ban tech talks, the the app tick tock from peoples phones that our government paid for. Yeah, absolute, just recently jo by themselves and is campaign jointed talk seriously fighting to read the seasons of the seats and make the superbowl or the chief just being at the football game. Then trouble trump provide. You can find the president is sending a message to americans about the nation, about the safety of tip top by doing, id have to refer you to the campaign on that. Nothings changed about the National Security concerns from the anesthesia perspective, about the use of tick tock on government devices. That policy is still in place. How may i understand this . Every leave tick, tock alone and twitter an x, and its a, thats a billboard thats i st. Banning radio or banning the phone. Let me just make one comment that our colleagues said. In no way, am i ever going to advocate or allow if i have anything to say with a moderator to determine what is true and one is not true . What is missing information, this information, Data Information or what is hate speech . What is uh a vile, what could no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, everything you say i promise you, you cannot say anything that i cannot refute rebuke. And were there any way of a challenge in terms of the verity, if you we saw this during cove it, we saw people who said, i have an opinion regarding i respected and you would have thought these were the more advocating heresy. For gods sake. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Listen, i want to live with a country where i have this thing called the 1st amendment. And the 1st amendment is this wonderful idea that says, if you dont like what i say, challenge me, tell me im wrong, go up against me or, or turn off that which im say, i love when people used to say that we should have readings on albums remember that should be ready, g was tipper gore against frank zappa and davi osmond said thanks a lot. Now nobodys going to buy my record because it says g. So no, im going to have to generally