Than 10 percent of plastics that you drop into that blue vin are actually recyclable. And its not likely staying within your home country. Its being shipped off to a developing nation for them to sort out recycle as possible and the rest. Well, thats also for that country to figure out. Meanwhile, western politicians can publicly boast about how good their policies are working. Yet in the west, germany, france, wherever around, hey, theyre delivering on promises that they made to their constituents. Right . And so here its a break down. The reality of this garbage is my guess, worries angle rolling. Im my guess is a researcher at friends of the earth, malaysia, you can learn more about their work at s o, e dash malaysia dot org. My guess. Thank you so much for joining us. First, talk to us a little bit about the work that you and your group are doing in malaysia and why there is such urgency to address the so called waste trade. Okay, um im a Senior Research officer, meet the fence of the nation and also the consumers association, opening the members of the Global Alliance for insight to auction. Its in short republic, gaia and also basically from plastic. So in 2017, our organization to die, us project hitchcock. The research on the effects of the street. We were tracking the most one of plastic means globally. So during that time, there was news about continuous of these left in the fonts in melisha, and also a fun learning chinas notification to the World Trade Organization that happened during the 2017. And china had informed about the intention to enforce a band on the 24th types of bass, including plastic missing parts. So we anticipate the cascading problems to melisha. And we had already questions from nation goldman. At that time, he tells you that melisha may become the next destination for this race. We did get a response from the department that was in charge. Seeing that it had formulated specific rules to control prospect visiting fonts, and they would also impose that stringent requirements on premises and also import licenses. However, what we find was the control measures and enforcement. Were pulling, not adequate them based on, based on being and marshal, meaning of indigo reciting. Took place in many parts of melisha, especially near the c parts. Rather beast was coming to, you know, so this happened in 2018, not only in the nation, but also at the Southeast Asian countries, such as indonesia and payment communities and civil side to organizations in those countries. Types pop up highlighting the at risk impacts of the missing something out on the health and also on the enlightenment. Him. Um, in some of this ways that could not be recycled with just dumped in the more it is in some of the but some of this will intentionally. But just to just, you know, because of so much of these they wanted to accommodate up and be blended. So besides the air pollution blending our sweet and now what the bodies were also produced it. So this was a really urgent issue to be addressed. As we dont want our country to bend the brand of the street, i would say the line was, the not a dumping. Dont know. It seems that offshoring waste is a really big industry, much as the rubbish is coming from western nations and being sent off to still developing nations many in the asia pacific rim. What sort of impact does this have on the local population . Like health consequences, perhaps other issues that most people in the west are not aware of. And i must say the Global Production and tradeoff. Plastic rece going tremendously. You would there be some debt gets rustic. Macys mostly treated under the banner of plastic disliking. But what were seeing is a beach and develop countries to actually have the capacity to manage its own wrist. Shifting get us wants to be to developing and mostly under be false. Countries is village and injustice. You may call this miss clinton these and so what happens is the recipient countries, as i mentioned much of the plastic is a single use and also need to know the cycling value already low respecting value. However, it is still the best thing for recycling operations, although not all of those products can be recycled. What we saw in ready be coming into our shows were mix prospects in contamination this now and this risk cannot be to psycho this according to the central beast this vessel. These are the ones that were being dumped openly in the what it is and then intentionally but a regular basis. But the toxic fumes costs, respiratory problems and other elements to the neighboring communities. Some separate from reading difficulties, s must skin problems and this may also lead to chronic illness. As you know, in the long run, for instance, uh in sort of by a, indonesia, it was reported that communities were using plastic nice, uh, which had coming in for the before we see him, the fuel, the stores for making so full. We just have been that the doubts as well as a phone in its from chickens with the neighborhood. What were saying is the costs and burden to Public Health and the environment. Its why waste that avenue that put the p d from respecting and restrict uh, another issue that i would like to say is, uh, that is also what we call cheating prospects. This come in the form of plastics, in influx of paper bills. As i mentioned, what has happened instead of via also plastics and electronic and electrical products. Theres also affects movies. Most of all the text probably is actually a lot of fun things costing us is i think materials a rubber and fi amazed. And then there is also diffuse a do guys to this mix. The base which contains about 30 to 50 percent, approximately is another matter is we also need to consider the impacts of micro plastics. You know, this can be formed during the recycling process and it also and saw, you know, what, what the bodies and produce our, what the bodies and, uh what we did was when we were going, uh, you know, allow, is the, um, the emulations, pop district coordination event on our own school areas that had become dumping balancing 2018 in relation and um some of this with not being kid and some of it has the plastic reset. This integrates it. And we found a lot of uh, micro plastics because this uh, micro plastics from like the cds. So these are some of the issues that we have to one family. Yeah. Yeah. Micro plastics are a very toxic and pervasive problem its. Its also known to cause reduction of spawn accounts in human males, even animals, and, and longer term health problems. So in 2021, there was an ecological crisis that most people didnt hear about, because it happened in the throes of the cold. It pandemic, a container ship crashed along the coast of sri lanka, spilling nearly 2000 tons of plastic pellets and nearly 10000 tons of toxic chemicals into the ocean water. Now, i know this isnt directly a result of the rubbish transfer, but i thought it worth mentioning, especially since plastic pallets are when get melted down to make other plastic goods like Water Bottles and so forth that people eventually discard into the waste trade. Can you tell us what happened with that spill . Okay, um that still happened in may 2021. The combo sheep. The name is the express full. It caught fire outside of the last 3 long. So after the 1st wave of air pollution due to the fire, the 2nd movie for solutions, the beach us. Uh this once a set of last couple including billions of uh plastic pallets which um, microsoft, the some check mentioned just now. Uh and this i used to produce plastics. So this incident, it has been described as the most in uh, 3 months of history. Okay. Uh what was on board of the ship, the 1486. 00 shipping for dennis. Of those, if you want to request a slight s Dangerous Goods because it contains nitric acid in cost fix. Well then um the others. Uh that would be for the to contain a mixture of uh, so little funds of um boxing up to the same plastics owing and um, metals such as tonight income. So following the fire, the contents of the pointing is prompted to dig into the enlightenment. Um, at that time uh, dislike to fishing before we get to in launch, it is the long because of uh, 3 months of hundreds of date, photos of a phone for being a show and funds and the funds of base feeding uh something feeding the beaches. So according to the un environmental, at least advise the nation and the ship k housing, 680. 00 pounds of plastic pallets. So they did a calculation um approximately 0. 02 times per pallet. And that includes with off me a call be in pallets, just imagine that, you know, if im being, although they dont know exactly how much of the sentence the out, the sheer amount indicates that this is the largest feeling on the court. Yeah. And the initial modeling suggested that the spin friend is not on you to, to the 4th line so far as we alonza. But it may also reach indonesia, melisha and the best who even to somebody. Yeah. Yeah. So, so although the, the mess, 16 up, it is not possible to remove all defendants from the enlightenment. And these are expected to have probably teaching consequences. Yeah. And right and let me see that the plastic pollution, its my understanding it see what im doing then transport. It is also becoming more common in the nature of chemicals and dips in the plastics means that the. Busy spins will have a wide range of negative effects on the enlightenment and news of to 20 to he wouldnt have also. So to learn more about this particular incident and to check up the publication by the international pollutants. And the munition network i pin and the center for environmental justice, 3 lanka, and coming up next, missing the mark. The majority of European Union states will miss their Plastic Recycling goals, find out what theyre doing about it. Next well discuss it when we return with mega squadron. Single rolling on that type demo will be right back the the, you probably heard my little story because the model girl that i got you, no problem seeing it all out of the know nothing. 30 minutes. The side of the drive i showed my brother through he was trying to sell people for a lo so now i never looked at searches as being the same. Well, i guess on my list thats the outcome of the chicago police. Itd be gang chicago is like, you get pulled over the police. You really think your life as another crap thing. Another this could have been a doctor, or nurse could have been the next president. We cant keep losing people out here. The. The watching is why is that . Why in this control, if i give but loony of the store in this this, she said, and i showed order for not imagine just a lot. So could i scan when i am, what i could catch at your desktop session on the finance shiny or just in the funds you buy on it. When you sit on the, whats the, the, the, the welcome back to the m o. Im the middle a chance. 2024 is set to be a major Election Year here in the us, but also for many in the you many parliamentary seats are up for grabs. So politicians are scrambling to meet their promises made, or at least appear to be making inroads, especially when it comes to going green to my this, why were you sound . Are rolling on is from friends of the earth, malaysia. She is back with us to discuss it. Thank you for staying with us, my guess. So over in the e u. A new report issued by the european commission, the summer indicates that 19 out of 27 egos states are at risk of missing their plastics. Recycling targets, their collective goal was to recycle 50 percent of their Plastic Waste and it doesnt appear that theyll get there by 2025. The you was under pressure ahead of elections next year. Its been documented that since the you set such a vicious climate and environmental goals for themselves, that they are unable to meet, that the new states surreptitiously present. How well theyre doing by simply offshoring. The ways to turkey, turkey has in fact become europes landfill, taking in some 40 percent of a you trash, according to bloomberg. What are your thoughts on that . Especially on how the politicians are misrepresenting how good they are on environmental issues. Yes, um, uh, not really in the new houses in the u, as japan, most of the developed countries, they have a vigilant, ju, separating the rece to be recycled. As many were not aware that the base was being transported overseas. And most need to developing countries supports that need to be recycled, as you had mentioned in the annual has been going on with b and, and why them and to me by shipping the prospect reese to countries such as the key, which is the issue, the country and nice militia him and that they would want taking into consideration the ends of this working conditions and also the toxic leakage to nearby communities. We find that this is extremely and just uh, the english and other countries, countries, too bad the responsibility of the race. You know, in the name of treat, especially sending out the wrist to me, click on me that has less ability to manage important nice. In addition to having a on the plastic nice. Yeah. So effective Risk Management of dispute is shouldnt be based on the principles of proximity. You should take responsibility of your own based. So what we have been complaining is for you to take the best possible deal of the risk that the agenda, the thing. What happens in the october 2022 . As i mentioned, we are also members of the big p from prospect hoffman. Um this move one and rethink prospect alliance. Strongly. It will get it for the you to end the export of plastic these outside the European Union. You have to but or is it the countries such as the key and also not issue the countries, for example, Melisha Melisha spot, mistreat coordination, and other end jewels sent letters to the members in the open file even uh, and finally the open parliament and vitamin committee uh, what it in favor of bang on uh you plastic music sports and also uh, strongest safeguarding meshes for intra e plastic mistreatment. Yeah. So if we do it says um they will also she, um they are transporting the base to a little uh, from a country seem to be a either to be present as all a sudden uh would it increase the rate this um and the had a what that showed that you acknowledged how plastic with x one x x, the pool. And um, you know, when they can, these do exporting. So it goes up once you get a high level of, uh, plastic being produced and you know, and also being consumed. And now as well after the what uh, in january 2053, the inc finally been adopted its negotiating on the position for approximately are the governments on the new non duty wise uh you procedures and also control measures for risk treatments. So we hope that all the um, you know, countries in the nation seeing you was sick and consideration of the, you know, the injustice that is happening in the developing countries and, and in the end of this 20 conditions, should you know, pick con, consideration of all these issues and take this once we do have the own res. So when he was putting to, uh, what did he about . How do we present this means, what do we do or what do, how do we treat it . Then . I know they with me sick upstream, precious by stuffing. Oh me thing. The production of plastics for decades china was actually taking in nearly half of the worlds Plastic Waste. Suddenly in 2018, the chinese brought an abrupt end to this practice. Much of that waste was coming from the u roughly 55000000 tons of plastics, cardboard paper and so forth. It will have nowhere to go. The chinese cited that the mountains of trash were to what they called impure for them to continue to recycle and said that now their rules for recycling were more stringent than that of the you. Now they are only accepting certain paper trash with a total ban on plastics. What do you make of this move by china . Yeah, via fraud china. What they can do is stringent action. China was supposed to burn or betty that has to go resell from other countries that would then be psychos. So this is that to mess this and a lot of mental pollution and Public Health impacts in the whole company just processing this important plastic missed. So china responded to cost katrina, its x by binding, the partition across the risk and it focused on the collection and reflecting of plus the risk which were generated from se, yeah. But however of the china and falsely, its been responsive. Seeing how illegal treat in plastic nice had such them this listing, strengthen 18 and premium criminal groups. Ive also sought to exploit the message. Market disruption prompted by china as decisions have been, must be missing. Whats 2 countries in the southeast asia, south asia, and its been, you know, they bought the brand of this uh, moving criminal activity as a prospect this she wins from europe and not america would die with it. Our countrys m, this is also, if you want to buy into for it. Yeah. And how does this even go trade happens . It happens to force declaration of the point, simon, this a, this is not fussing with. So it is um, you know, if those customers would not be inspecting this uh, reese to and another thing we also saw indigo, reflecting quote, once popping up melisha, most me uh, investors from china were doing it. They will open anything with up for me. They also used to and technology and, and want them to be home for methods of disposal. And you know, its when the beat was dis, dunphy, albany, him. And now were also includes a nice thing in rest. This one, china opening up a paper and plastic this i think once melisha, you know, most of these plans have on site in so they just the one that has to do a res. So, so now we have to buy the brand again from all to evolution ashan disposal and i would, he was being polluted. So when one countries focusing parking, then the other countries of reading the front of this uh, history. When we look at the, the business of exporting rubbish, looking at which countries create the waste and later where that trash goes, there is no denying that the global south is bearing the brunt of what some have characterized as environmental imperialism. You have said waste imperialism, or even colonialism, obviously, trash, climate change, the environment, all of this is a joint and global effort. But our, our, the wealthier nations simply just subjecting the poor nations to the direct or, or in need it impacts of mounting trash. Meaning the wealthy nations get to live on the convenience of using stuff like Single Use Plastics on the backs of the poor. Yeah, my short answer is yes. Happening um. But then usually once the issue in what you need of the industrial in various forms, its in our packaging. Its in our tools, its on the electrical production electronic components. Its a lot of heat, its in the consumer from bats. And even in our cars, so of transportat