Plunged off the bridge and could find emergency crews out on the scene. The mayor of bennetts house describes the collision as an apocalyptic scene. While its honey and p. M. George maloney has express out her found as well. Those are just a few of the stories that whats the thing an ion warren all to, to come of course that check it out and have a great rest of the day. The Prime Minister just interested you never before used Emergency Powers to quell a freedom. Come boy, in the january of 2022. The result was the breakup of the hundreds of truckers and protesters on foot who had gathered an objection to the cove and 19 vaccine mandate. Im sky now he was in on this edition of 362. Were going to look at the trial of the leaders of the canadian freedom comm boy, and the effect of the outcome will have on future protests against the government. Lets get started. The. The freedom convoy was the largest and most expensive anti vaccine protest in the world, gathering the attention from not only the canadian parliament, but the Ripple Effect caused a similar protest around the globe or national correspond Roxana Solano joins us now to bring us up to speed on the protesters, so were now on trial scotty. The 22. 00 day process, look, major roads and disrupted billions of dollars worth of international trade. Well, there was an outpouring of support. The processors are non trial to the side if he was freedom of speech or, or lawful assembly. There were reports at one point, there were 50000 vehicles outside parliament in order one. This disruptive, daily life for many, those support or schools be seen along major highways and road brace and over passes us more truckers fields into the city. I one point canadian Prime Minister and dusting through the in bulk Emergency Powers. Im only getting him a lot of criticism for excessively abusing his 5 worse. Im freezing the truckers bank accounts, occupying the streets, harassing people, breaking the law. This is not a peaceful protest. This is about keeping canadians safe. Protecting peoples jobs. Send, restoring confidence in our institutions on top of this new as cro funding platform go, fund me suspended access to more than 4000000 raised by freedom convoy 2022. According to the campaigns, bates on golf on me. The funds were suppose to cover the cost of fuel 1st and hopefully food and lodging for the holders to ease the pressure of their arduous task. You know, be to a complaint organizer to merit leach those supporters and not to panic. Its really unfortunate. Uh what, what is happening here . See whats the rest of the world processing and now shes on trial rates, increase barber, a Trucking Company owner, whered the voice of the product the services are, and then they go see agents now both face charges of the sheets, obstructing police cancelling others to come meet me safe, i mean. See me, they sure it is within everyones right to speak now and stand up for freedom. And that is what our conway is about. During the trial, prosecutors pay our sup products, leads, and barber both as to their freedom comb. Lloyd 2022. That do use the social media page to chronicle every moment of the protest. Well, there was no bite inside the protest. Both are facing up to 10 years in prison. Im going to send us will i know for 360 view back to you study. Very interesting roxanna. Thank you for covering the joining me now discusses david henry, host of the crazy cook trucking podcast. Thank you, david, for joining me. I want to start off with why do you think this freedom convoy and the protest in canada was one of the largest grassroot protests in the history of canada. What made it so popular . And did this call to action work . Well, i think god, people were sick and tired of mandates. People were tired of lock downs, tired of politicians just trying to dictate to us. And it was started like you said at the Grassroots Level and whether you you know, no matter who you are or what political stripe you are, people were tired of what was going on. And they worked. They were working where they were not working, didnt matter where you are from, people are just tired. And so lot of times some things like this can be spoken out loud. But then you get a, you get a group together and their strength and numbers right . Strength of numbers because out of that pro test, we now have almost 2 years later, a trial going on. The most highly publicized trial going up against camera, lynch, and chris barber. Why the 2 of them . Well, they became the leaders. They were not the leaders to start with and they became the face of the protest that was going on. They were the ones behind are raising the money, especially to myra she. She was asked to, she came in later to the start of the convoy. And she was asked to help raise money. And so she took it and ran with it. And chris barber was, as far as i understand, the quaint of hers or somebody, they started working together anyway. And they were the ones holding the 1st strings, the activist and the Trucking Company owner. I have been accused of mischief, obstructing police and counseling, others to commit mischief and intimidation all when they organize their freedom convoy with truckers to shut down the streets of auto for 20 to day protests. All of us began a response to the mandatory vaccines for cross border Truck Drivers in the early 2022. Now in addition to this, truckers parking their rigs on parliament hill. There were thousands of others who turned out on foot. Is this an accurate portrayal of what they did . There is others involved. But they were, they were the main ones because they were controlling the money and became, became the face of the protest. Are there others being held accountable or on trial for the same thing . It wasnt just the cross border stuff that was going on that have been going on for awhile already. Think people are just getting tired of it and it was getting tougher and tougher to survive. Economically, everybodys talking bankhead, and emotionally and psychologically people were suffering badly. And you know, tamara and chris were, i mean, face of the protest and they were, they were the ones involved, but you can have something this vague with only 2 people are running it. There is definitely more people. But because they put themselves out there so much, they a basically put themselves in the line of fire and i dont know how many others are going to be charged or have been charged. But there are others that were involved. Can you think this is more a political trial . Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I think, i think its absolutely. Uh, this is all politics. This is all, all about control and power. You know, as far as, like, i mean, its i guess its kind of a canadian thing. I guess to have something so big going on and so much Worldwide Press and what did they get charged with mischief. Like really . I think its i think its silly if. If the Prime Minister had met with the convoy a protest organizers this past week, a lot of this may not have happened. We just simply an action on the governments part. Did you hear of any eye witness accounts of what happened to the truckers during the protest by Law Enforcement, which you would considered to be criminal on their side . Until the left lighter days. There wasnt a lot of trouble from Law Enforcement. Law enforcement was trying to help keep the peace a lot of them and you look back at video and stuff that was being a broadcast. Theres a lot of Law Enforcement that was behind this. And you know, theres the odd case of one force meant taking things too far, but it was very rare until the very end. And then they were then they werent wearing any badges. They werent wearing any insignia. And they were trying to go the protesters into fighting back and creating a big problem. And they were never successful at doing that. All of the protesters there was a very canadian protest. They did not fight back. There is no fatalities. Or while there was a couple of fatalities from people, but its hard to say whether it was strictly protest related or preexisting condition conditions. But by and large, Law Enforcement was not a big problem for the protesters. David, 20 to date is actually a long time for protest of this size. Do you feel the freedom convoy was taken over by extremist or outside agitators . Where did you actually started to hear story, the violence and the other destruction breaking out . Yeah, it was, it was taken over by i believe it was taken over by extreme us. And thats what many of us were afraid of was that it was going to devolve into something ridiculous. And there was a ton of political pressure from the Prime Ministers office and from others that were trying to insight ariah trying to make things worse. You any time you see people wearing a mask, you knew they were not part of the freedom thing. You know that it, every one of them, they didnt want to be identified. They were not part of their freedom thing because that was a big thing for the freedom. Protesters was to show our face solar face and the stand up for their own rights. And it, yeah, it, it started there is a lot of outside forces and im, im really proud of all the protesters in that way that they did not react to those outside forces. Do you think auto a Law Enforcement was expecting this large of a crowd where they prepared . I cant speak for them, but there was that the Prime Minister was trying to tell people it was just a small french minority of people with unacceptable views. And that there is only going to be a couple of dozen people. But if anybody that was following along on the media in the chat and seeing the protest convoy a rolling from west the east, they knew this was not going to be something small. Like if they actually thought this was going to be something small . Um they, they are not any part of reality because they, there was, i mean i, i know i live but it just a few miles away from the trans canada highway. And there was vehicles passing, passing by for hours. You know, it, it was not a small a thing and im 1200 for 1400 miles away from where the protest actually happened. Thank you, david henry, stay right there. Because after the break, were going to talk about how the truckers lives have changed since the consulate the same as possible anymore to understand western security and defense policy with rational co theories, concepts piece is now move into the re on all the irrational, emotionally as calculus thing the take a fresh look around his life. Kaleidoscopic isnt just a shifted reality distortion by power to division with no real live indians fixtures design to simplify. It will confuse who really wants a better world. And is it just because it shows you fractured images, presented to this, but can you see through their illusion going underground . Can welcome back to 360 view on your house, scotty. Now hughes and we are welcoming back david henry hosted the crazy conductor trucking podcast to discuss the canadian trucker trials. David, i want to start back off with when Prime Minister adjustment for the vote, the federal emergency laws, something that hasnt happened for 50 years was the decision excessive and unjust . Absolutely. Absolutely. Uh, unjust, absolutely. Just a political move. He was scared of what was happening because this was not, this was obviously not just a small minority of people. This was a frustration level from all walks of life and all types of people. And it was illegal. And after, after he invoked it, then there was there was an investigation started right away because thats part of the checks and balances. And he realized it was not gonna end well for him. So you had to terminate it fairly suddenly as well. Were the truckers representing other industries which did not have the means for a public protest against covered policies . Absolutely, and this was not just people always call it a truck or convoy, but it wasnt really so much. There was a lot of different people involved in that. Theres people in cars, theres people and pickup trucks. There were farmers, they were there was a vast Cross Section of people there that the trucks take up a lot of room. Or there is a whole lot more than just truck Truck Drivers there. And there was for many, many people and winter to invoke is emergency act that united even more people behind the protest because they even die hard. Liberals saw this and theyre just like, oh, this is not going to add, well, well thats even the bigger question, because now we have this trial going on and weve seen whats happening in United States in regards to january 6th and people who were protesting. What you think the impact will be and the outcome of these trials on future protest . Thats a good question. I really hope that this protest has shown regular people, grassroots people and people of all, all walks of life. I hope it has shown to them that this is not something to be scared of. I was not at the protest myself, but and theres things i dont agree with with a protest, but theres also a lot of things i do agree with. And its, its a, uh, its gonna be interesting to see how the trial works out because in my opinion that the charges are not not warranted for the actions that were taken. I dont, i dont know. I dont agree with everything that to mary chris did for sure, but i hope people realize that speaking your voice standing up and speaking, you know, its something that we should continue to do and not to be afraid of. It is a canadian government treating the Trucking Industry differently since these protest happened. You know, in regards to policies, agendas, how have they handled them moving forward . I dont, i havent seen any differences in the way the government has been treating us. Because we are always kind of the it was pretty bad during during cove, it was really bad during all the locked down. And even though crudo had said that we are in a central service, we were not treated as such. And so there hasnt been any improvement, but i dont think its got an gotten any worse. And, you know, most of us were still out there working. Uh, and like i said, theres a lot of different occupations that were out to protest. So were, were, were in an industry right now that is taking a lot of hits and i wish it would be. I wish the government would be more in our side. But there are some good people that are trying hard to work with us. And im thankful for that. Okay, i need to be a little bit more specific. What are some of those hits that you feel like . The Trucking Industry has taken especially post cobit and you say there are some but why is it the government working together with the truckers to fix some of those problems . Well they, they make some token shows of things, but theyre not really doing anything to change that help help the life of truckers. There are, there are some things that are being done. The parking issue is huge and not getting you any better and theyre, theyre working on plans that wouldnt be sufficient for maybe 30 years ago. You know, were way behind in facilities for Truck Drivers and the, the rest stops, the travel centers and things like that in canada, or in horrible shape. And theres no controls on them. Like, why should, why should i, why should we have to deal with such unsanitary conditions and everybody just seems to get away with it. And then, you know, were under a lot of controls as far as our hours of service and, you know, we, we would, we need to have some relief. We need to have some better fuel prices. You know, it, itd be nice to get the get the tax breaks that the railways get, but we dont get any of that, you know, and we pay for all the roads for our fuel taxes and, you know, we, we dont see any benefits of that. How do you feel that chapters of canada are treated by their government compared to countries around the world and how they treat the Trucking Industry . I only know a few other countries. So i dont know what many of them are like. I think get counted in the us are fairly similar. Um i think if you look at some of the european communities and the labor rates are much stronger and some of those places and drivers arent allowed to be abused quite the same way. But i think theres always, theres always room for improvement and i, i just wish we could just get better at treating people and taking care of their Mental Health no matter what occupation theyre in. So then how much of the canadian economy is reliant upon the Trucking Industry . I percent 100 percent. Nothing happens. Nothing moves except by a truck except babies. The only thing thats not delivered by a truck is a baby. And you look at every thing, whether its cross coming off of the field going into a place where they can make bread or a steel co coming out of mines going into steel or whatever it is. Every thing at some point in its life is on a truck. And if the truck or shut down, uh, i think there is a 2 and a half days that people what have uh before, everything just goes completely haywire without the trucks to a 100 percent. Which begs the question, are canadians actually free . Uh, yeah, i guess its sliding rule depends on your perspective. I guess im not as free as when i was younger and we have still, i think were still one of the most free countries. But our current government is trying hard to make us communist and control everything. And so well see, well just, we can, well have to keep standing up for ourselves and encourage everybody everywhere. Stand up for yourself and dont be bullied. Dont be pushed around by your government. How will protest against vaccine and mass mandates be different if the canadian government tries to impose them in the future . If these controls come back and if nothing good is going to come of that people are already mentally and psychologically damaged from the last one. And i dont think on either side of the political spectrum, its gonna, its gonna work out well. And i hope that this stuff doesnt come back because that nothing, nothing good will come of this. Do you think there will be any future arrest and prosecutions from the freedom convoy . I think i hope that everybody thats been charged. Thats the final num