Of cities with the needs of a human soul. How is it possible to discuss that . Im now in joined by a russian to urban sociologist, because i dont even know that especially for sure. I told her it was. Thank you for your time. A cigar. I happen to be here. I was the yells from what ive learned about the cost. It seems to me that other than the original dates between how you doing most as to what the ultimately takes priority for tell consciousness or existence. You seem to be more non with mom or something. In other words, she believes that ones environment determines the perception of the world. I for sure. Yeah, thats fine. Did i get that try this month. Its got uh well and see very slowly id say always comes down to making your claim on something that even if you go to the point where they usually say one of the 5th uh, with my buddies, permanent post boxes for the last the set, the owners have a right to the city, and i go to the home now, right to shape our environment, and well pick up on that for decide how the environment will affect doesnt every time really is what the they show you much of the oven dynamics in the fall exactly like that, and up and who is the groups of people claiming that right. So determine what s, as it should look like, does a in the cities of what the nice thing thats crucial to the teachers ive just, this is not something that like still stop doing and go to that are sick of the city. And so theres always an arena when multiple different abuse costs with each other the other way them plan, you know, sense or story seems to me, the kind of city would call a good city. What really is one that enables as much of the population as possible for them to be involved in this process . The model number, i mean, yeah, initially i system with the with them as for doing back to marks and how i go, but i personally, i think those have a point to, it just lays out differently at different stages of life. So the 1st environment influences your mindset. Well, so then your mind just sets the environments, but i do agree with you that in nurturing environment makes life more enjoyable and by the end, enjoyment is a basic existence show. Kind of the motion that came is my question is what tools that the connection is food we use to maximize o enjoyment of life. So our happiness, some of them kind of shed know sourced at them on the subject. I think youve been on the well, its not really Rocket Science as we should. There are some very basic boxes. The essential is the persons mental state and sustain, usually a company or for example, living in an environment with a lot to assign the details to grab your attention. And for the job and monotone surroundings which you can often find on the edges of us that these and this of, of shipping have a negative impact on your mental health, as well as a marketing by contrast and study them with. If you look at some of the Old Buildings to say the 19th or the 20th century is the best thing with details design, your brain is actually picks up on them, making you feel better. It has a little sharp shim cook long cut. How does that work . Is it about authenticity, its pro variability, or perhaps novelty, where and randomness doing was since now is the past to do with being so as captivating . Whats the, what do you mean by that . The 1st of all, the bureau of the if you look at nature, dont say when you go to a party of you have to see trees oh, front side and the trees of fact. So in nature that is a and this to repeat, the identical puts in the old quote and also producing an insane amounts of their id numbers here. I would invite place giving up the human eye is very much used to dealing with, right . So pharmacies are on the close of the environment we observe is the effect. So, so far the best us and well show theres by some shots. So essentially, the more things we create that resemble nature, unless its diversity, can your, the easier it gets for us to deal with it. So shouldnt correct dark interior. Some of this, yes. And they thing, what are you, by the way, i learned from one of your letters of tax, but generally surprised me. You said that in deceit is where people typically leave and mount to sort of buildings. Peoples perception of the will change is that once they move about a surgery for the 8, for small yes, the 8 2nd. But how does it change . I pull chance are still kind of to me is because a view from the windows turns into the kind of painting. Theres always just a picture. So there has been so theyve been very studies looking. Does he live on the 7th sleep . Im saying he was 9 floors, etc, which isnt it sends out theres a line you cross at some point of within the way you receive the view of your window. Knock, cooks extra human. The wheel is no longer personal, but rather detached, obstructed, intended, um, what is your own uh, when we live on the 6th. So we feel like were actually involved in everything that happens in the neighborhood right here. Were the ones who are not reading it. What does a sense of engagement of belonging to just missed . So as soon as we go up, we might say to the troll floor, you know, stay above the view from the windows, it comes more like a picture to do. I have an image on a tv screen tvs. Im kind of distance specs, so we have no roll and you see the sky towards a sort of that i suspect tights, a strep throat when you, which obviously, you know, things are still happening now. The low we no longer define ourselves through the mean. Yeah. With no more than the cost of spectators. Yes. Yeah, thats the nature of what i also recall you making the point that there were times of the shapes prevalent and of russian from graham and spaces have a depressing effects of the human psyche. Guys. Yeah. Could you explain why . Oh, so these are you consider a tree compared to a square, a legislative tree as well as far removed from the square as it gets thrust, yukon, imagined the rectangular dream more or less, of course youve trimmed into that shape on purpose. What about trick to tell you the mountains thats an exception, of course, but it happened to boot a mountain was still have some side for the complex fact associated with it that digital with again me and like i said, i wish to and natural looking objects are pleasant to look out and they have yet to whereas objects that are low natural. So the great to the extent of some like ones that have a lot of right angles to make his oppress use with miles because its an environment that is not familiar to us. And the sort of category uh, you know, my environment which just keep my lodge please asian to us from an evolutionist on point the history of rights. I go through the flying you while youve seen, you may have thousands of years as ive been questioning. But from the find the show point of view, especially a building like that, if its more Cost Effective and easier to construct any around their own, she should buys new yashira bytes or so youre exactly right. You know, a financing, joseph was throwing, obviously, building something natural looking is the custody of. Uh yeah, i would advise them about why we moved to my as our construction factors. Some of them in such a way is to get the most of which are square me to get this go thatll throwing me up at our we have you noticed any changes in the overall trends from us because of the one hand this that i for a country if im with multiple generations of assembling, has had to share the same room, which is probably better. So leaving the larger building that no matter how its time to learn, as long as they can all have separate faces. That us peoples basic needs. And then we have some other necessities come into play. Is there a particular trend in rush or elsewhere to sort of embellish your living space . Not necessarily to make it resemble nature, but that would be way too expensive. Id never take, for example, the Traditional Russian club bands in towns and villages near the houses looks somewhat similar, but each has its own identity. Who is mother . Its a, its a, but theres a kind of and i want to talk from the sickness of whats done, whats the average consumers can only afford to live in a relatively uncomfortable environment. And its just reaching a nickel for, say, the, its only the wealthy. You can afford better environment to describe this page to me, try it out what they have. Thats a huge problem of what they bureau, natural looking things are very expensive stories. So the people who can afford them and youre special with them, generally live in a more pleasant environment with assertion people this is in no, it must phenomenon with the buckeye store. And unfortunately so far that the must have it. But the beach in domestic and see, and that can only afford surroundings that the detrimental to them, i believe. So what says morgan said, is that even countries apologize susceptibility to accommodate the notion at all . Sometimes even conflict to neighbors. Multiple, very interesting social groups coming back to your point about the level of comfort. Yeah, ive lived a menissi, it is 2 hours my life, but i chose to move to moscow. Most of our cars i have to leave, which of course, a very good balance here. Between the conference of modern solicitation to the availability of nature parks reverse. Its such as not as i dont know that you have a very different as the core of and thats why you left the capital vista because its really about most go is a city company helps. Its about personal preferences, little spot that its got to meet me, erica, because of professional seller. What comes 1st is how must go. Managers is of and dynamics of what the subsidy i left the city because i disagreed with the way it was handled as we go through it so much, strongly, mammals, the whole process is way too for us to go from a very top down and prescriptively. Yep. In the most, i knew i had no way to embarrass by environment the i would that the move. Uh and because they also say yes where i live today. Yep. And you might feel as much more ownership, which of the city and what the story means. Nothing can be imposed on me by far the way it stream with the what do you mean by that . But i would say you want to change something in your neighborhood so sorry, i mean, do you mean it will be much easier to do that in cross new years compared to most go more chip stuff or sort of or thursday . Yeah, the very least, cause we should, lets see, i will never find myself in a situation where im a Police Officer at the end with physical violence. When i see a continuum which, which is not uncommon, i must go. Lets go as far as i know in moscow and a gun, we could disagree on this progress of it. So it says here including at the local level, what can my district do in a great deal to involve the public, an urban development. Its an e mail or business insure it may have something to do with politics. For example, the 1st person has a say in how its talking to neighborhood is their innovative unless they were more likely vote for they had of the local administration to do a bunch of such a. Still, this process has very slow because on the one hand, the people often prefer this or paternalistic attitude, where someone else does everything for you, things but somebody out of hand and many of them werent even cleaned up after the dogs and the parking has been okay. Was try could balance here and it says, how do we build horizontal communication between the person trying to shape their environment and the city of solar. It says that in a sense, just to be charged with making sure that everyone finds that environment comfortable. No. Doing so much, i believe must go, was just too late to realize the size, right . They should have thought to do it is, should you not something such 12, my colleagues and i from the graduate school of i moved in as a run of autism patriot. And design project, right, because of where we showed the most history through design has a kind of magic effect. So it needs to remind you, couple of people become involved, they get to open up out what they want and theyre happy with the result of yeah, use you shall see of an oil must go up, but the most good tardies of just oh i see those on the back end when bites, ignoring the assembly plant, verifying the old top down approach regression because we met with the, with my me while ive got this don, surprisingly enough for those regional authorities across versus starting to lean lots awards, participate 3 of them on a house, now it seemed as healthy to consult with local communities. Im young about all sorts of landscaping and Development Project based of little stories to what i must create in moscow. If however, this approach only started to gain traction a year and a half ago. Well, i said better late than never for the best. Its finally happened on paper as a full procedure. Who was a, do people actually get a chance to shape their own environments of life . I mean, and green are things reaching a consensus for the neighbors . Um is ive used to postpone into there, it depends on the contract to come on responding to their teams who they are actually seeing in gauge the residents and shooting yet and give them a voice, searching for them. So they can have a real impact on the final project uh, just based on what would 3 years prior or the at this function. But then there was like, is to only follow the form of procedure. I me see a lot about the workshop with people only to ignore that, which is a couple with the design, something completely different of what the cx are new. Unfortunately able to be serving development is very much dependent on the contract to our the theres no professionals done to not if they know establish procedures when it comes to participated through Financial Wisdom that its a 0, its in process. So theyre a good contracts as well. And there are fund one, lets see. Now whats the phone costs are less if the police think the sorry to send has done that. Its in the room, political interest as the not only for the people to see the 1st when it comes to making the cd that to you. I chose that also for them to feel a sense of belonging of engagement. Later with the big by story towards the service, the food also depends on the large agents. Somebody is because there is no so much with each other with our target is going to be involved with different extent are the things when we worked with algamite in the code screech and most of the population weve done is 2 of them. Funding projects, the washing will resources, but ill send them a, it was very much involved from open your mind store. And then we saw that he understood how meaningful they alls less. So i want the version on. So there are also cases where the administration orders, the services are for them with a lot of because it looks good on paper think, but its an order. But later on they all comes to nothing can be a pro for them. I. So that is a level we have to offer a thought right now. But so what are you going to do research and research and lives with it the developing, the trust. Speaking of what were going to do, were going to take a short rate right now. And well be back off to a short break stations, the the mostly, the creatures, the problem, shit, setbacks call. The middle to most of you have to bill for the accident need. So what are the, can i use to, to boss where you have to go over . You know, 15 is sleep called forget them. Yes. Dont come into the thing. What does it mean if its not close to enough color . The hobbies people moaning the stucco soonest. Part of the month, im sure. Do you want us to nice or disagree now . Yes, the talk with finality goes august. Yeah. Bush, thats good on let me we, the dentist is a lot a 42 point miles away from the inside of us. But i thought of body boeing basel. Thatd be kind of you slumber for a buick. Nobody a be here to do own pretty at the thats what but it was playing punk shellman suddenly like shut about 2 hours. That seemed pretty empty. It salem, evident from continental the welcome back towards the parchment impression urban sociologist felt that even though you go to you are the creator and editor. Ebony is in his life and purpose channels. I agree, the urban is miss about purpose and meaning, which is life purpose for the most part where the all of its life is viewed differently, even by difference people ocean, far as the russian and soviet culture promoters for, for the image of strong resilience peoples. It is left field window, civil d n. A way to make sense over by tennessee, during our geography, many gigabyte history and also ellipticals contact this whole adult division. Well, even had to survive. I know were talking about living, but im not just surviving. Theres a living food conscious meaning who lives in harmony of supreme genius. Les leslie, me, how far do you think russians . Oh, from the pulling out of see i know with where they will have enough energy and resources is to focus on the extras that were talking about right now. Its a new system wants to pick up the course of dividing the most most recent shows that russian is, you know, thats fine with that way of life and yeah, oh, sure what they want to live in different lives. Oh, its summer so. So the average russian wants to live away from big cities, which is read so really care of the board or the city surrounded by nature, looks like shes a nice naples of the, of the low rise above and house and with, and they show me that im saying what is, whats in reality real to the average us and listen an up and said things to and a high rise building. Those are 25 laws or even more and doesnt know that name is nice. So as i say v oh, the 70 to bishop, this is actually a big problem with this distinction. I kind of burnished the russian dream of living comfortably and see on the is not coming true. Come for the passivity. Yeah. And use the lights. Is this problem caused by the see to is a residential issue of the average russian publish that youre talking about defects, essential issues here. When i hear speak, i sometimes feel like youre trying to blame cdl far to swim. Where should we start with your logic and im from the outside to the, from the inside. Only 60, were talking about underline a psychological issues by when people are supposed to work and understand in themselves that long a qu, they are, and what they need to do to make their lives as in the way they want them to be in open, right . Still to full shapes and its not just some personal motivation. Were dealing with it. We hope its almost a when presented with the choice between suburban is low rise housing with it for more and on the farm and in a high rise buildings that are the person to whom like what is usually a palm and liberal. And then continue stream bout suburban life. Yeah, we are in the lobby vos talk now is a region that offers default eastern heck and type programs, correct. Anyone who has enough energy can gather land and do that. But as far as i know, not too many people have taken advantage of this opportunity hold. I think it was you were out of my pay right of this, not a very Popular Program the most. Theres things, one of the reasons being the fact that the land and the reason is you know, really good for the farming is the most serious going for this. Along that you must always be a very risky and definitely have it. Yeah. I was u