Step down and a caretaker government to be installed to oversee upcoming elections. The violence of buses, torched and fire problems thrown up, police who responded with tear gas rubber. Julys biggest geo political events. The russia, africa, summits on many news lines emerge from this week. And so for instance in petersburg, next we sit, died for an exclusive interview with the man who put it all together. A leg was set off or his take on the forums impact on russias current place in the world. I hit the switch. Thank you very much. For the time you spend so that the 2nd russian african stomach could take place. We can already say, well, i saw that theyve written in the western press in fonts. For example, the dis, summit is a test for legend report and or Something Like that. What do you think . Whats your assessment of the summit . Who showed on the board . Well, you know, its too early to some of the results because the political summit is the main one that will take place tomorrow. As well as the continuation of the economic humanitarian for him. But as you right, we noted, we can already say that the summit is taking place. The vast majority of african nations have send representatives from highest levels, people in their countries, 2nd highest positions, as well as foreign ministers. And here id like to say that the main thing is that this is vivid evidence that russia is in demand in the world. 50 delegations have arrived at a time that is not the simplest in our countrys history. When it is conducting a special military operation, when it is subjected to every kind of sanctions possible. And when, according to the west, it should have long ago surrendered, capitulated and collapsed. As you probably remember, newland told congress, but the goal was to inflict a strategic defeat on russia. But today i dont know who is inflicting a strategic defeat on whom. If i were our western partners, id give up trying to pressure african countries to stop developing relations with our country. Ive heard such comments here. I read in one wester, newspaper, the russians complaining about the pressure of the west is putting on african countries. Russia is not complaining. Russia believes that this pressure was counter productive and fruitless, and holding our 2nd russia, africa summit with the participation of the overwhelming majority of african nations, confirms this. What id like to ask you about this pressure. What information do we have about the application of these measures . In what form was to see a pressure exerted an african states, you obviously know better than anyone we were to you see within settlement. So i just understand naturally i cant disclose all of this information on air. The only thing i can say is that there was a lot of it, and it is very diverse in nature. And when we hear that only x number of heads of state have arrived, why so few, i want to say that the number and attendance today stems from the brutal struggle of the west against russia and the interest of african nations. All possible methods of pressure have been applied from the most primitive, were diplomats, including those of you countries, or simply e representatives, bypass the embassies of african states, and demand that these countries terminate or minimize their relations with russia and not to take part in the summit well, you can see that all of this has not yielded the results that they wanted. Our president already talked about this type of st. Petersburg International Economic forum, while speaking with algerian presidency. Boone at the plenary session, stating that it was foolish to expect african nations in other countries to sacrifice their natural interest for the sake of the desires of western countries. Why would they, african nations come here with concrete objectives . They want to Spar Development in their own countries and see russia as a reliable partner that has the capacity to provide needed supports expertise and opportunities in a variety of fields. Today, the African Unions current sherman, mr. Russell money, the president of the union of the congress, said that africa wants to diversify its ties as much as possible and does not want to be held hostage by relations with any one group of nations. I hope the western countries will hear what they are being told not by russia, by the africans themselves. More over the fact that africa wants to diversify its relations and have many partners with stated on behalf of the entire African Union. Rest to is one such partner of the most disclosure. So can you tell me about any specific projects that may be in the works or are already being implemented . Perhaps thanks to these events knew who was why additional . Well, you know perfectly well that even at the 1st rush or african summit, there was talk of launching a russian Industrial Zone in egypt. Now the development of this project is already underway and is progressing quite well. And in general, we believe that it can really work out not only and creating industrial capacity, but also as a platform for rushing goods to enter the african Continental Free Trade Area. Negotiations on this topic are very active. We can say the summit is activating, are relations with african nations on a very large scale. And the fact that most of those countries have come here again just confirms the focus and the interest of these countries in implementing strategic projects. Today our president spoke about the existence of certain projects in the energy sector, some of which are already being implemented, the Nuclear Power plant in the l dob by egypt for example. But other Energy Projects may also be implemented, there was talk about the roost hydro, a company, and there are many others. Were just entering the stage where some large scale projects are being implemented. There are very serious problems, of course, but these are largely related to the policies being pursued by western countries, but sometimes abused their monopolistic market positions or monopoly in terms of regulating the financial system, which is in the hands of the Federal Reserve, the International Monetary fund and the world bank, which are also under the control of a group of western countries. So they use this position to obstruct the development of relations between russia and african nations. Moreover, they seem to be talking about russia all the time. They claim they are punishing rusher for what they believed to be a violation of the sovereignty and territory real integrity of the crane. But at the same time, they themselves are now inflicting direct, immediate damage. Not only on russia, but also on the african countries that would like to implement the Major Projects were talking about. These are projects in the Mining Energy and agricultural industries. And of course now the main task is to break through these bottlenecks to solve the logistical problems and send people and goods to the african continent. The president also spoke about launching new flights today, but it needs to be done so that there is no risk of these planes being impounded. As you know, they confiscated and a and 124. I gave this expensive powerful aircraft to ukraine. Its just fast and its purest form, blatant robbery. And so through these practices of looting and property confiscation, just like the post soviet 19 nineties, the western block is now trying to impose its will on the home world will violating all the norms and laws on the invite. Lability of private property itself introduced. Moreover, this doesnt only concern matters regulated by international law, but also those that have proclaimed for themselves the so called rules based order as they say. So they regularly rewrite these rules or create new ones, depending on the political situation. Naturally, the state of affairs does not suit russia, the african, consummate or the countries of the African Union. And the ultimately talk about this and share, including in these forums. They say that the situation would unilateral sanctions and restrictions to prevent the development of trade and industrial cooperation with russia is unacceptable. And so the west of things that can maintain this position for long, id very much doubt that their rights, the difference between us and the west is that the west is fighting to keep everything as it was when were fighting for the future. Were fighting for our own development along with that of african countries, and we find a lot of common interest in mobile. But as me to concerning development, if we compare or just suppose the summit taking place here now. And the one that was held 4 years ago, still completely different, even in their scale of advance. That one was somewhat cultural and this one is already full scale business and economic for him. With the political dimension and cultural aspect as well. How, in your opinion have relations between brushing africa generally involved over this past 4 years during this difficult period and what will have sanction . Yes, no, weve practiced guess, i mean, well, you practically answered your own question. Indeed, the subject is very different. Today Vladimir Putin said the trade turnover has exploded like 30 to 60 percent despite the sanctions. So they may have fought to sign the russian african relations, but reach the opposite results because they began to impose sanctions, the contradict, the desires will, and political and economic interest of african countries. And of course, this is how it should be, because it is impossible to stop the flow of a river as they say, you may be able to block it. But as we see in russia, water will find a home. It will none the less bypass these obstacles and solutions will be found to all problems concerning logistics, cash, and financial settlements, and transporting goods between russia and africa. First of all, this is because there are colossal National Interest involved in terms of food security. People need to eat, there isnt enough food. Some 278000000 people are starving. Of course african countries will look for a way out of this situation. And russia produced as 20 percent of the worlds grand production. So as they say in english, this is a no brainer for the with this is a partner with whom it is impossible not to work for the cost. Therefore, the National Interest of russia and african countries coincide here and were on the same wavelength here, because there has been long term cooperation this trust between russia and african nations, was noted today at a number of Panel Sessions. Our relationship has a very deep history from the times when russia aided in liberating african countries from colonialism from soviet times. Yes, the soviet union played a major role in helping to liberate african nations. And all of this has created an on burnable reserve of capital, which allows us to develop these relations now. And this fire proof capital exists both on ours and the african side. So pretty cards. So its kind of curricula practice proceed. So thats what i wanted to ask you about. Im communicating with our applicant partners. Do you feel the difference in attitude towards russia because of the lack of a colonial last, and history with african states, you know, have google Small Business for my vote . Definitely. It is very much felt because in all respects, the 500 years of exportation of the African Cotton that by western countries, the slave trade and position of Cultural Values and pondering of Natural Resources has left an extremely negative mark on the National Memory of african countries on the contrary, by contrast, they remember perfectly well that the soviet union would go factories and the infrastructure on the african continent, and provided education to hundreds of thousands of african students. Of course, this could not help but remain in their historical and National Memory. Sometimes it is transmitted as they say in france, my word of mouth for and another way from grandmother to grand daughter. For example, i remember my grandmother telling me about the events of the early 20th century. It would seem that yes, this is a long period of 120 years, but my grandmother told me is out. Its in the same way african grandmothers. Now tell the grand daughters about the role of the soviet union in the development of these countries during the 1950s, sixties, and seventies smiles. Therefore, this is the foundation, the capital on which we are building our future. And of course, it has remains in the memory of the African People and of course, of the russian people as well. I wanted to ask you how long already mentioned to simon, and we all know that the black seen the should have or the green deal as we call the package agreement, did practically nothing to achieve its gold. The green never reached those whom it was supposed to. And as we roll heard, the presence of the Russian Federation announced an initiative to supply fertilizers in grange, frequent countries, free of charge. Can we afford this . We may have to, uh, at the what just the most mostly if you see you can often hear things from even our domestic experts who consider themselves very big experts and all feels yes. The side effects some specific we formulated the question this way because these are the phrases that can be seen somewhere in the press. So what the scott correspond to . Yes. For whatever reason, you can hear that we dont have enough of ourselves. And suddenly, were providing some kind of assistance to someone else writing off debts, supplying food, and fertilizers, free of charge. But here you need to understand that if were talking about fertilizers, for example, 268000 tons are just sitting in european ports. But no one allows us to take these fertilizers, our fertilizers, it is already clear that given the current situation, it does not quite make economic sense to solve them. But it wouldnt be much worse if they just disappeared and spoiled in those store houses. Or if some monstrous incident occurred as the one that happened to be roots, when ammonia fertilizers exploded, have the europeans finally lost their sense of self preservation . Sometimes it seems that this is indeed the case, considering how they are refusing our cold gas and oil. The yes or instinct for self preservation must have failed. They may refuse to trade. We havent, and the africans have, and therefore this is a common instinct and common sense. They say its better to give something away for free to africans who need it. Other than to have it simply disappear. This is usual every day logic im and the same person will probably reach the same conclusion that the Russian Federation and its leadership have today. Question and ill just sit there on a fortunately this borders on. I would even say your responsibility. This is rarely been said with regard to europe for terms like your responsibility. Fatherlessness and prejudice can very often be applied to our former European Partners with regard to many issues now because they are constantly acting against their own interest and harming themselves. But this damage unwittingly splashes over onto african countries, which have to pay for this recklessness, for some reason. Why should they pay for this recklessness . Therefore, here we are not talking about what russia can or cant afford. It is acting rationally based on its own National Interest and the needs of african states and their capabilities. Whats wrong with that . Ultimately, just as in soviet times, this assistance will return itself a 100 fold because it seems to me and ive been communicating a lot with africa for the last 6 years. Then africa is a grateful continence. They remember things there. Would you or if its an ungrateful content, it doesnt remember much of what the silver union did for its poland doesnt remember that he received large suassa territory from the hands of comrade stall and it immediately focuses on refreshing and doesnt want to talk about the other things, and this not only applies to poland, it apparently applies to the whole of the leadership whose National Memory has failed, whose prudence has failed, whose allegiance to its own National Interest has failed. I dont understand whats happened to them. Its a mystery. Probably time will tell, but now it is clear that this idea that they will beat russia, inflict some kind of defeat on us and then hold a feast is utter mystical nonsense. But this idea has entered their heads and they are now trying to implemented at a political level, an african see this discrepancy between request ambitions and real opportunities. They see leopard tags burning brightly as well as em 777 howitzers. America is a 155. 00 caliber long range artillery burning from our lance thats. Thats what they see. And they just cant understand these actions to block the delivery of fido goods, both rushing, green and fertilizers, and they are asking, why is this happening . But the answer to those questions apparently can only be given when the europeans finally silver up and understand that their hopes are unrealistic. As our minister has repeatedly said. But when the impossibility of realizing those, well, i wont say crazy, unrealistic plans for russia are finally understood. Maybe we will move on to a more normal conversation, including with regards to africa. Because this campaign to block rushes activities in africa is also irrational and absolutely unreasonable if you look at it from the other side. It also contradicts the National Interest of the European Union, because everything russia is doing or is going to do implementing Energy Projects or agricultural projects and Infrastructure Projects will lead to an increase in the standard of living for africans, and consequently decrease in emigration to european countries. Is this s