i look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a robot must obey the orders given it by human beings except where such order that conflict with the 1st law show your identification. we should be very careful about artificial intelligence and the point obviously, is to create trust rather than fear. i would like to take on various jobs with artificial intelligence. real summoning with a robot must protect its own existence with a crowd. disdain becomes the advocate and engage with so many find themselves worlds apart. we choose to look for common ground with sean, thank you for agreeing to speak with us today. first of all, i want to ask you about the state of your health, or how are you you are in captivity at the moment. so 1st of all about your health . mm hm. okay. not too bad because she worries from you from the front, but nothing too serious. that would be exciting, more to 2 families for some exciting kids. not too bad. now the 2nd question 1st, about the circumstances surrounding your capture. the situation was that we were moving from one position to another, or at least, you know where we were going. it was early, i was referred last tuesday morning by 4 o'clock in the morning without the matter to another physician. we collected casualties and other soldiers on the right down where we got to the, the, our soon, which was the position re recurring soon, and mortars and across, started shooting rockets, houses, and surrounding area where you, where you were. it was total confusion, commanders, and cartoons just went off in different directions. some of us helped to try and keep casualties up with the pi c charm with their designated returns, but they were just so injured in bad names. you thinking. cheering, then during that course of that time, we lost contact with the main main platoon that we were with an alarm story short, we found lot small casual, teasing buildings in houses that were coming out of trees in earth who couldn't keep up with the case of what was happening? i stayed with another medic and another medic to help her to the cost of the casualties. we put them in one of the subject matter. put them in one building or we had no food, no water, no idea where we were communications officer down there. so we then decided then decided sean, look around for ukrainian church around the area. it's sort of a $360.00 round. can see anybody, the medic sells more back to where we came from. she conceded 40. so we were so stark when i 1st learned from nationwide, you know, it was an error. so i saw him see a picture station on a bid, each up in one corner went out to see if i can find some more for some food. she industrials catches up until this village, on the central avenue tom street. can you tell us about your tenure from start to the beginning in within the ukranian armed forces starting with your anc perhaps. and how did you end up there? a social not just with the 1st battalion training marines. from nikolai, i'm just coming to the end of our last 6 months of my contract, so i've been there for sure and a half years when i'm there fast. and nothing spectacular just to be a pill was a my wife married to ukraine in mario cushy listing barrier for certain we were there and needed some work while the walla sun from the school, i'm going to transition to university of carland to re carry. so it works for 3 year stint in may raise our company background of working. i was working on years a lesson in the early 90. so it's a big step 30 years later to come back in there in this regular army. so it was, were written a suffered language over. so when you try and he was very, very bad, much didn't matter. pacific crushes are, i understand a little bit as russian is coming on. and that's where we ended up with her. what is a sector normal check to talk. we kind of obviously rush and now coming into it into play on the 22 separate, changed everything so. so this is where we're at with obviously stay with non unit movement. when you get into testing entered areas, and then obviously we had to start off and i really couldn't get out anyway if i wanted to show you that for me. but mary, of course, been behind it for yes, yes. yes, i want to go now so far in practice. now in the next, you know, show and i have been working here in boston the last 8 years since the start of the conflict back here in 2014. and myself, i saw children who were ripped support the elderly by the shilling of the ukrainian army, just told me that you have lived there for 4 years. obviously you have the information that's a little bit different from what i've been getting on. obviously i'm reading everything that's happening in the western media having the language, but in your opinion, at the moment, do you, i realized the understand was been happening to the people on the bus i to yeah, i could certainly fill, obviously myself, i've lost my house. i've lost lots of friends in the last 3 weeks. it's been a tori tortora time. war is no good for any point in the day. i was kind of hoping that means could very look which sort of come to sort of some sort of attrition that we could solve. this is basically a yeah, i do. i've seen more before, up in imposing yourself and you know, it's 160 with the united nation. so senior come on, isn't good. at some point, there are 2 sorts to rule and different views, or i don't agree with everything the policies ukraine put towards russian language and things like this. i don't agree with, but i wouldn't take up arms or discuss this in a for a lot. of course are, you know, my home is this is them. i was so essentially on this so sorry, but yeah, i can certainly understand from a that a with just to crowd for, for property damage. it does to, to families and people. i certainly understand what your comrades within your unit or probably other foreigners that fault with you. of course, many of them do not share your history, meaning that they don't have a relative here played like you and just trying to gauge, you know, they're sort of affiliations of the war here. what are they here for? if it's purely soldiers of fortune, is it for the money? is it's ideological. is it possible to gauge their involvement of what's going on here? there isn't as many people seem to think. there's 2 in our unit, but he's matthew craig and we studied for join the marines. is i can ask members, everybody nice myself merit. and there isn't as many foreigners as people seem to think when the lawns became status, can the sea forest came? is flooding them. it is really interested in coming or there's, there's a very few foreigners say that, you know, we found there is a network of x pat. sheena who took the most of them, are gone home or in the northeast. here for a still a cellphone editor include it and they will merit that to to cry news, so i don't know anybody to come out. right? yeah, there are people that do come over there. some are running away from things. some are programs on some just want to share with dan, from the adventure and you know, you can get those. some are actually believes that the course, you know, so it comes in degree. so of practice, what people still fall into clearly. i mean, yeah, i don't know how many here now since orders, you can static in the last page that to leave. she's probably may have changed. now i don't know. i've not had any information or any wife or i have no idea what's going on in the world. what's happening? you cry where it stands for the last 5 or 6 weeks because i've been on a position in marietta and i've been in the hospital because obviously a bomb went off quite close to where i was. so come out hospital and went back and see what's good for sure. i've got a fair hearing problem in terms of going to same problem with my ear because i was shot at by. well, this reference in syria and, and tank michelle hit my car and i'm out of year in year. so i know exactly what you're talking about. i wanted to ask you also about the difference between the ukrainian regular army and the so called territorial defense battalion called as of gold. i dar, i'm sure you heard of all of them. could we, you know, put, you know, kind of distinguish between the, could you tell us about that? yeah, i live in the area so, so as of see, see, is quite common. you know, the situation is the, from, on the stand, the national guard control assessment. so national guard, no westerners are allowed to the, to the crisis or as a default on it's controlled or inspected. it's not from what i understand as of he's not the site. sign me, great. it was back in 2004. and as for as of itself, it has very good equipment for probably better equipment. the more you asked me if you know, so you were more unit consist. so you know, 80 hours old equipment. so, and you know, is it varies based in the barracks or need constant work in refill? would it be training this? i can't compare service center training, but the training is very modern. it, but it's trying to understand as a little bit better a bit more funds are made available, source of but sally and they've been accused by the united nations of committing a war crimes and atrocities. i've seen time and again myself. people were detained from i was up at sally and they have a swastika, you know, painted over their body. and they've been accused of nazi variations by b, b, c by vice news by, you know, what have you, by many different se news media around the world. and obviously, you know, more about them, since, you know, you've been in closer contact if you will. i'm not saying in direct but still, what can you tell us about that, about their not asians, and about their atrocities against peaceful civilians. i told them too much about race allegations with soon to civilian special. can't really comment for i, i would if i knew to be honest but i so some of the car is a has off. i generally you guys to car work in the villages or to, to because of the trademark on a stan. i know there are so maybe a minimum, you know, since cause 30 all the cause of not for i don't really see much of it. so, and it's not a lot of people walk around preaching or theory and entertainment value falls, showing it on the rooftop started really say, i've lived in new cars for years. if it's about the nazi for any credit or i have never seen enough to track me, never witnessed any now sleepy higher than our story careers. no, i just i've been here a mood. i've been to the crime shows. i've been sick all around you crying. i never see miss granted, actually most of my time is spent actually on the site because my wife and i live in marietta with. so this is why my dear to learn more should be presented here every time it's easy for me showing you know, it's a somewhat surprising to me when, when you send that you haven't seen any of the signs of neo fascist on. that is mean ukraine. do you know who monday? yes, this history lesson is a state college and ukrainian or do you have source it national marshes on don't know to fall aspects of it. i don't know the us a can't comment my under so i don't understand. i'm not the current, and i mean, i don't, i understand, well, just to, to fill you in the era is not a collaborator during world war 2. and i want to add a different presidency in ukraine's our pro russian, somewhere to russia and said they were all 0, one party were pronouncing him as the hero of ukraine. the others denounced it. so there's this constant fight where they, he is a hero of ukraine or not, but he's been proven that he is a car to talk about it cuz i had it for him too. so it's an on essentially never going to be incredibly english. my con source. so right the difference between, you know, there is why very well one is because everybody knows from whole the knowledge that with what you have made the choice to take up arms and fight on one side. yeah. because more harms. i've lost my arm. okay, so, so it is done, my heart is beyond its tra, everything's gone. and so i had to make a choice because it's my high did. did you want to go on to the 3 year contract when i was a sci fi? and i'm a soldier in ukraine at the end of the day. i had no choice of it into it just to say, fine to my, i'm a nurse. it's the only reason i'm being because i started in for my my, why apply for in my we are do you have a crating citizenship? no more. um, you know, it is a residency for the time of the contract, which is where you were looking to finish the contract. and i have to leave the country anyway as mine on the contract and then apply for residency, which is easier and see to speak with you is the only reason why i have to run the management and then no, because we have to leave the country. i didn't know we were going to say, and like i said, i mean we're going to see my son off to university finish my contract a hard to see about time. so are you being treated as a prisoner or or, or are you being treated as a criminal year because your training citizen and are you a hired gun or are you a ukrainian p o w? what are you at the moment? did they tell you that they have just told me so? so when the last couple of guys are in ukraine, we are legal. we are 3 year contract for our change to laws to allow foreigners to join the army. and we essentially fall under the colors if you cry and, and we thought there were 4, you can ask here it is on so is that we are now considered a legal combines even though we have got, i think, live here married here because we are not citizens of the frame, so under, under, from what i'm told is that we could go to trial. we're under investigation in 3 days. we could go to trial. and if it goes to trial, the worst case scenario is debt financing, which she refer to, which is just been told to me for that. so you can understand more. i'm a little confused at the moment that you could select. he's put out over a call for foreigners to join the military. obviously, i get one side of it here. so i don't notice falling summation on both sides. i get one side, and so he's put a call out to the foreign military for foreigners to come join the military essentially myself and i didn't. i was like the 1st foreigners to join the military, and it looks like if we don't get swats, we could actually end up, you know, were situation being neglected for the fairy country. we were forced to make in my rent. so i hope that it's not the case, but i, you know, it's, it's, it's who are in there today and people want, you know, to exchange prisoners and people want different things. so we're hoping that something can be arranged as fast. so can you cry? i can see my wife are good now in things make some decisions, you know, you definitely need hall street or some treatment on some stuff and things like that. otherwise, worst case scenarios, we could just be, you know, get the death penalty, which is, which is nice and good. would you have done anything differently and knowing now that you have your hand well practically? no, back up there. in mary hopeful from ikea. i only empty promises unfulfilled promises because i read the ukrainian press, i read it before. impress russian, press hymns that we constantly hear over the last couple of weeks that ukraine is about to send more troops to the blockade murray opal to help out the people there . but each time we just saw attempts to rescue, you know, higher, higher ups for, from your truce. but people from 4 to 6 brigade, regular soldiers more just sent out from the burgess cannon fodder. if you have done anything differently, if you knew that before you went in for well, 1st of all, let me address the fact that if i did not agree with the class is illegal, confess a hard copy would have signed a contract. that's. that's for sure. i would appreciate it 1st and 2nd because when citizenship comes onto your contract, come and sign assume you know it's on it. and on the back end, i just said for probably the worst time in my life where we thought it's mary or full time and the circle just got smaller and smaller. make on phone. bob from bothering from bob from bob, we very little return. obviously as the previous year, we knew that was the case that we've written pastor with source because that's where most people died. and thes says, i don't know any information about most we sent a nice because we've had overseas not going for 9 months or not signed in the information isn't good, positive or negative. so i can't comment on the decisions to my heart. if you leave a consent because i just sometimes it. yeah, i don't know. i have no idea. i still don't even know mary or i don't know even a lie of how you christ. yeah. baby start by. i don't know anything. i just sit here every day thinking, you know where we are, is this silly crane is there no, what street type your, what's know, are you going to get exchange and now go pick a few somebody and to worry about, you know, it's done now and all all here is finished and then now are stuck here with this problem. so i can't really comment on sean. finally a, i've been told that you made a called to british authorities for foreign exchange. i don't know if i'm right or not, and what was your call to them and what do you think they can do for you at this point for? they made it clear that they wanted to exchange us for a piece of metal message or says no uses his name or they said that he wants to exchange us for him. a ukraine was to do that. no, i don't know. he says, i think they said no to the dentist, people's republic concerts change us for i know that i think it was, it was missing translation because from what i have for, from what i've seen in the news, i made the joke. he's a ukrainian citizen, and there is no basis, you know, legal or political or whatever for him to be changed. it's something ukrainian side wants to exchange one politic figure in ukraine for you guys. and for the rest of the ukrainian soldiers, there are at least $3000.00 in contingency right now. that's what they want. but russians are yet to answer about that. so i don't know, see again or the are not fully up to speed in the ocean, comment on it for now, because i was like to make a call to the british authorities. i've always done that. yeah, we did make a video to ask for obviously the push the agenda and i let me bring my family to sort of say, you know, i'm archived, i can re lobby and paste and maybe look at doing this. so yeah, it's, it's done. it's been done on sort of controlled here. so all i have an opinion is if it helps me then i'll, well, we'll help. i'm honestly, there seems to be accepting the fact we come from 2 different parts which, which is quite humble, really. and like i said, all personally mary, are poor, is over at the moment. bigger problems with our civil wonder is more sure she's got money or if she's our guy. and i thought this is a, is this now where i to know my for, i'm going to ever get out generally, we have been so you can expect obviously a little bit of discomfort being a prisoner or i'm sorry, so you know, it's not going to be here in hartwell or sheridan, you know, i'm sorry. so you said that generally, generally, you know, you know, going with the trade. i kind of a ga summarize this will hold the war and this completely, ukraine will be over soon. what's over my last a year in your ear? i understand that more as hell and the 1st people that suffer our civilian. absolutely. yeah. see my question. i think if you want to cindy, i'm with you. i hope it's dialogue kicks in the course stops very soon. because it's a good friend chance. thank you. ah ah, in each hunter, russian state will never. i've stayed as i'm phoning or santini div asking him, i'm not doing something up for a week within the 55 when. okay, so mine is 2000 speedy. when else with we will van in the european union the kremlin. yup, machines. the state aren't russia today and spoke r t spoke neck, even our video agency, roughly all band on youtube and pinterest, and we put liquidity is crystal channels. with me, we're told one of the hallmarks of western liberalism is the idea and practice of dollars. more specifically, it is said we should not judge an individual or group based on their race color or creed. but that apparently doesn't apply when it comes to russians. bruce, a phobia is the new bigotry with a spoke with with both both the models you need to do both with a, with a a, with a personal number you are marital doesn't with a a city we're finished with the letters that brought both the moms in the deal with grandma but a lot of them bought a wall with.