We speak to the man behind the arrest of chillies. Late the liberal dictator goes to penetrate. And the only president ial adviser who survived the ca, back military attack. Well nominated palace, paved the way for the liberalism all around the world from petra. Britain to russia. All the more coming up in todays going up the grammar 1st, while Nature Government warn us defeat the last canisters while supporting the occupation of syria. What about libya before you k bombing africas richest per Capita Country coming up to 10 years since the nature back to killing of Mama Gadhafi . Could his son say Fathers Love be the answer . Joining me now. His mom i get out, hes former Information Minister Moose abraham. Thank you so much. Moose of are coming back on the show. I go to ask, 1st of all, why youre in cairo, a lot of people in cairo after all, theres a half general half to form a Ca Asset that the meeting with president ccsi. I think that the libyan speaker agree less other. He says that its all happening in egypt and sees why are you that i am here to ordinate our political work with my libby and colleagues. We believe, as always, that the solution for the libyan problems should be conducted an executed by the libyan people themselves. Cairo in egypt is a neighboring capital. Egypt is a very important country to us. And we have a major libyan community here. And now the different political leaders of libya are coming to discuss the libyan situation. We are here to be present to be active and to remind the world that the majority in libya has been silenced by natos bombs by Natives Intervention and by natives agents. And we need to listen to the people not to the political elite or to the foreign powers. So did you me general after and is general after going to run iN Decembers elections and is safe all good f going to run iN Decembers elections as he promised from geneva back in 2018. Well, stay from Get Dr. He has a very clear and pack your check. If i may say project, he announced that he talked about, talked about that very frankly, to the libyan people. His project is a project of a national dialogue and reconciliation. Hes a known political figure in the country. He is supported by most of the libyan tribes. That is why the west is terrified for the presence of cat duffy the. The recent developments we all had, what the Assistant Secretary of state of the u. S. Said that they would refuse to deal with any libya headed by separate as, as if the Destiny And Future of libya should be decided by washington and the state of the very people in the country. As for general, half the libyan political figures, they have their own authoritariaN Dreams and they try to arrange their moves and their political maneuvers with foreign power is because they came to libya and the very 1st place with the aid of foreign powers. I think, i believe only if it is the one who stands tall on the shoulders of the libyan people themselves. Not on bombs and rockets and military bases foreign, military bases. Yes, there are rumors that Half Star is sending troops to the chad to border. I think youre referring that to us is instant acting. Assistant secretary said joe hood, he said the whole world has a problem would say, well, his last good obvious candidacy for the elections, whoever runs its a matter for the libyan people to decide. But you didnt answer the question, is he keeping his promise to run for the presidency iN December or . Nor does it, does he just want dialogue and conversations . I think it is and he is agenda to run for the elections. But the question of when is this still debatable and the December Elections are only a 100 days away. And there are many logistical problems. And the intervention, the continuous intervention of foreign power and especially of the west are making the situation. And libby a very hard to deal with and very hard to move forward because every foreign power wants to guarantee that its own agents in the country when they had they have positions of power and in the next elections. And thats actually what we say no to. We want the libyan people. We want the libyan cities, libyan villages theyd be in tribes to sit down and decide their own future. We dont want the british or the americans or the french, or the techs to decide the future of libya. The, the sad thing is only favorite islam is speaking. This language, the other political figures are working very closely with foreign powers. And that obeying their orders, and instead of listening to their own people, we saw the british and the united states. Back to killing of say, fall is good. There is father. We saw hillary clinton, smiling and applauding the pictures. When the Mamma Gadhafi was killed, can save file as do a deal with half for protection. Because there are those who think that nato countries may want save all his lum, daffy dead to what safe and slam is trying to say, even to foreign powers, that he does not present any threat to them. And the way they think, oh, separate islam is calling for, for libya to be for libyans, for Libby And Oil to be for libyans and for all libyans to sit down and find a genuine, emotional, political, and economic solution for the disaster. That has been the Nato Intervention Olivia in 2011, even when speaking about his father, the mar tom lama duffy. He invokes his name not for revenge, but for a sign of peace for a sign of reconciliation. Because if save himself who lost his brothers and his father and the position he had in libya, at that time, he speaks of peace. He speaks of libya and unity, and this should be good news to the good people of Europe And America. Unfortunately, of course, we know that Europe And America are controlled by a very aggressive and greedy economic system that does not necessarily look for peace. A system that looks for oil, it looks for money, it looks for robbing as a nations wealth. And therefore war for them for these foreign power is good news because peace means that nations are able to control their owN Destiny, their own wealth. And therefore, these nations were not to provide the capitalist system with the means of survival that it leads. Im not sure if youre safe. All good is Spokes Person . Is he aware of the difference is that the un Security Council over the un mandate is safe gadhafi more supportive of moscow and beijing position than London Washington and paris . Well, i think i will leave this for safe and a slam to express himself when he thinks that time is right. But i know for sure that libyans understand that the british, especially the americans, are trying to play with the details of the mandate. The un, monday to libya, so they can guarantee their libyan agents more power for the next few years. We support the russian position, simply because russia is saying that more power should be put in the hands of libyans. This is not about standing with russia politically. We are supporting the logical position that gives power to the libyans. If the british se, lets give power back to the libyans, we would support the british position. Unfortunately, the british are now trying to tweak the mandate to play with it. So the, you and the united Nations Mission and tripoli would have ultimate power and deciding who speaks and libya who shares the power. Libya who is allowed to go for the elections in libya, and who has the military power and libya, the russians are saying no. The libyan people should decide that we know the games, the west to play. The west plays the same games in libya in iraq and afghanistan, and venezuela and syria. So this is like late in the, in the, in the game. Were not at the beginning. We have got all the lessons and when we will not allow, we will not allow the british or the americans to deceive our people again. But were a 100 days, as you say, from the Election Favor still has not properly announced. He is running while hafta form, as he says, is rumored to be backed by russia and france and he says he will contest the December Elections. Well, the regulations for the elections have not been put into place completely yet. So there is a legal side that needs to be settled, unfaithfulness, lamb has many teams working on the ground and really be in the city, coordinating his efforts to be present in the libya and political scene. But i assure you option 7 a slam is not thinking of the chair of the president , so to speak. He is really more concerned with helping libyan Tribes Libby and cities to have a genuine dialogue between them and to push forward for a political solution to the libyan crisis. He does believe of course, that him as a national lead to has a place and the future of libya. But the timing is a question to be decided later depending on many circumstances, national and international. However, as i said, it is working very hard with thousands of, of political figures around the country to help advance the cause of libyan liberation. Liberal liberation from foreign power is what people forget is that the libyan crisis is not a libyan libby and problem. Its a libyan against foreign power is problem. If france and every power withdraw from libya, politically and in terms of the military libyans will be able to solve their own problems by themselves. While the jug is frigate off the coast of libya, Pictures Today on social Media News out something more from more market asking for Information Ministry to this break. Plus we speak to the only political adviser of southern, again, theyre just of the Nature Nation back 911. 00 to that would bring a freight Chicago School. You can all makes all around the world. Oh right now there are 2000000000 people who are overweight or obese. Its profitable to sell food that is tracy and sugary and faulty and addicted. Not at the individual level. Its not individual willpower. And if we go on believing that will never change as obesity epidemic, that industry has been influencing very deeply. The medical and scientific establishment, ah, whats driving the reasons for them . Its corporate. Me. Ah, the welcome back. Im still with my mom. Good. As hes former Information Minister was abraham, i have to ask you is the reason i say fall in love and good duffy is not doing this interview much as we like to interview you. Because he is a us, or nato Drones Strike to kill him. Well, separate a slam was a great, brave fighter in 2011. Hes not afraid as southern why doesnt he . He is why hes new is the reason he doesnt do interviews because of the international criminal court. They want him as they want. So many people of color in africa because if its knows what the international, especially west and mainstream media caN Do with anything, he says they will turn the whole thing, not about libya, but about him personally. He does not want to be like the issue. He wants libya to be the issue. Thats why he wants people on the international community to judge his actions. Not just his words, everything Stephan Islam is doing is in the interests of the people. It does not think of any authoritarian agenda, doesnt think of any agency to foreign powers, as it is the case with half the political figures. So if it presents a problem to the west, because he is simply trying to liberate the country from the military presence of foreign powers. Remember she, the united nations itself said officially that there are 5 military bases in libya, 5 foreign military bases, libya, and 1000. 00 foreign fighters and the country. This is a country and a to patient. I despise how the main 3 media talks about the libyan problem. They never mention that libya is an occupied country, Libya Isnt occupied country and the libyan people need to fight to liberate their country before thinking about elections. But if you can settlements and all of the rest, well just finally, how can the libyan people trust safe . Ill get duffy, he was a friend of, i dont know, tony blair, here in london, he was fated here in london, a great friend of neoliberalism. Why should, why should the libyan people trust someone closely associated with new liberalism, multinational corporations as he had he changed and become more of a socialist . Ive seen you can never did use safe, and hes thinking his personality, his history to just political relations with tony blair. Or with new deliverance, several islam was very close to many african leaders. He was very close to our leaders. He had, he visited many countries around the world. He tried to establish peace between libya and the west. But even now he gave an interview to the New York times, not going underground. I believe, because he wanted to send particular messages to particular foreign powers and sent south power in the west. This is, you know, down to him, hes a man of his own. He has his own philosophy, but shes separate as is loved by the vast majority of the people hes respected by even those who had differences with him in the past because they saw what he did and 2011 they. So how he still speaks of libya with love how he wants to find genuine solutions to the countrys problems. And they see how he refuses to be controlled by foreign powers. Something that no other i repeat, no, as a political Figure And Libya has done so. So it is, i think safe it is, is the future of libya, not as a person, not just because he is the son of god, duffy, but i think of what he represents politically and intellectually and morally to morse. Libyans with abraham. Thank you. Thank you. Action the well today just days after the 20 Year Anniversary of 911 and New York is Independence Day for a country that mourns and other small, devastating 911. The Ca Plan 911. 00 cool, 973. 00 would spread neoliberalism to all parts of the world. After the death of socialists, president of chile, salvador, i end the only political adviser to india who survived. The qu is human rights law. Doctor one, god says the man behind the london, the rest of the you came back to peter who took his place august to finish k. He drives me now from spain, capital madrid. One thanks so much for coming on the show. As i said, you were, i end is advisor. Today is chiles Independence Day. Why do you believe people are not even mentioning the qu again, say N Day on the b, b. C, or on cnn for the 20 Year Anniversary, week of 911. 00. When of course, it was september, the 11th 1973. The way back to New York in 2001. The big news now is for info, most of the people that was before before the new York Hours in one of the games in the news for the never know. So we got the Chicago Style economics even here in britain, after the qu, just remind us what, salvador i said to you 48 years ago. When on september, you know, in 2007, 1973. And there was many 30 interaction, again, the government of Chile And Mannion default during 4 hours. Again, this is ration. And in the last minutes before the bar, he asked me to leave us because i work, hes closely stuff like that. And he saw that they would explain what was the study and the policies that a little bit of was implementing. And i Coolness Brain that meant and then all the people and these trying to, hes shown i, i knew there were protest is on the street to santiago. What, what did you make of the fact the chill am court said that i in there killed himself. He was not killed by the ca, back coo clauses. He took a Decision Politic of the future can fight. I think, along with him. Hes more the guards and what he has done with the last bullet. I dont know, but he decided to die. Its taking, well, were just a few weeks away from of course, the next election. But when penetrate came to power, we got privatization. In chile, of course, tens of thousands killed or disappeared. But you have spoken of how Henry Kissinger pioneered extradition rendition, flight torture, that we have seen after the other 9112001. Tell me how kissinger and nixon pioneered this Hybrid Warfare after they killed effectively your friend and your president , the international body. Shes the way decided by the british Dan Nissan were not respectful of intervention or not at all. And he was completely in the kind of the way of communicating to you and she and unfortunately we find it why know, how many clients will they be . So gcg, watch an outage, and i know that the people that you get out of me that was bernard, was here to the 971, buying a new and then the son of generation. I didnt find it a claim against the u. S. Courts on the 10th of september to thompson, one day before the effects youre on for is going to go ahead and because what happens after the fact when youre watching it from the, from the us government to invade all the countries and to dimension on your soul. For and the human rights concerning the fire and in the context, no card in the stage, were ready to hear the claims from the time. So i started off to the what an extraordinary coincidence we, we invite Henry Kissinger on ive tried to, ive spoken to him actually, he, but he hasnt said he has to this program. Not sure if youve seen the new australian papers in the past few days released showing how the liberal prime minister then the foreign minister 1000000000 mac amman, australias secret service in santiago once fell to ca, against your press would be no scholarship ration. But also we can find this go pretty cc in it from, from even from countries western europe. And that way, by the united states, in order to interfere with the internal political process in chillik. And this was about beyond that capitalism, privatization, we know that there are papers detailing Pepsi Cola I t t, David Rockefeller Business group for latin america. They were all involved. But the kennedys were interested in i N D even before Robert Kennedy and jack in them. The fact that the work for the fraction of that, you know them aggressive was the outcome of the perceived in charlotte in the 8th and the inter and the 2 were nicks on the feet and then even then well get the candidate. So there, and then well get the humphrey and Joe Barker had those it to be in a negative for me. They will not be going to be the queen. She was by the chief over there, mac wrapped in. Oh yes. Or, you know, the way against any cool interference, the respective they together and the fact that after they go on there, they should be on the mac. I think in the us, in a in frank frank charge. Nathan commission investigated the Production Unit and disclose what the saw, the now the most competent Friendship Information about this time and the nation again that you know, well, of course, Kennedy Kennedy was and was killed before. But in the era, the current leader of chile came to london. On the eve of the 911 anniversary, Boris Johnson invited him to downing street. Do you think that to do you think hes going to remain president , you have elections in november . The 21st and if gabriel boring wins in jenny, will they just be another qu, if he tries to nationalize resources . No, i know think so. He will not die if he were not right. Not sure right. In mining their minds of copper and this is nothing that but im a mortgage take on the children out of me not to day was 7 the day that i mean the game against the ceiling. And i think that they would seen it on time before doing that. Just finally, i know youve been campaigning for restitution for the victims, tens of thousands of victims because of the british american back. Been a Shake Government and both is our garzon. You worked with the new franco. What did you make of the un in the past few days, saying they condemned the actions against about this goes on. Hes also julian sanchez. Lloyd. What, what have you made about the dirty tricks against one of the most famous human rights judges in the world . Spain, if the only country in europe, when the times gonna meet during this war and during the sheep, that means to be 966 and 1975. Absolutely. Im punish. And the 1st Judge that to open the door. So these are feasts, maybe use all those drugs, but he was punished by this supreme court because of that. And not only he or Spanish Emissions or hearing that came from being guard was in the future. No judge should investigate. And the issue in any crime that was going to be gained by probably come out of the games is bunch people unit. And frankly she and thats not a faltered line. Got us. Thank you. Thank you. Thats over the show will be back on monday, 20 years of the day, George W Bush officially declared the so called war on terror paving the way for us defeat in afghanistan until then. You can even touch wireless social media. Let us know how you think finish and Chicago School economics change the world. Ah, join me every thursday on the Alex Simon show. When i was speaking to guess in the world, the politics sport. Business. Im show business. Ill see you then. Me hey, you know weve moved on from just lots of money and incurring lots of dad for Dom Reasons to printing lots of money and incurring lots of debt for extraordinarily Dom Reason the i am now convinced that as many as today, including the 7 children were tragically killed in that it was a mistake. And i all for my sincere apology. H. U. S. General estimates that Drones Strike and couple last month killed 10 williams including stevenson, britain. This happened right before the american tree. A lot of it took 3 weeks for washington to acknowledge that instead out for initially claiming it to her risk has been hit. We speak to the relatives of the victim in our special