think it's not only m.s.n. b.c. but let's look at c.n.n. for a moment i divide your viewers peter to go to you tube and look up i think it was june 1st 1980 the very 1st broadcast cable network news they had lots of news reports they had an interview with jimmy carter they had a report from the middle east looking critically at israeli politics they even had like a 15 minute investigative report about faulty fuel gauges on commercial airlines know the words they would journalism can be done on tell me what we have now on c.n.n. we have crying on the air and had judy elation because their candidate won it was an embarrassment. and i have something to say about biden later in the one thing i'm sure that a commodity that's the main point i want to make at the beginning is steve you know the but you know when when there's is that mission when you know the the invite campaign and it made it that hunter was under investigation actually been under investigation for. 2 years where was the mainstream media and i'm thinking of them as a me thing and c.n.n. particularly oh i didn't say we have to apologize to our viewers in fact there is these were this is a real story and we need to cover it but they can't even do that i mean when i'm already now is that there probably u 2 is going to win deleting all of those videos because there's some ashamed of themselves they should be but they're not go ahead well as joan correctly said journalism is dead the media as we thought it existed although it never existed as we'd like to believe it existed even back to cronkite days in the 3 network newscasts it was never down the middle if you look back and these people certainly had biases if you look back but instead it's done but the junk is instead of admitting it and generally new to that it's you know goes back to the gentleman who unfortunately passed that it goes back to the reagan administration and right wing talk radio but that talk radio host of which iow i won and was run back then never called ourselves journalists we would talk show host we had an opinion we're supposed to that's what we did and do but these people like jake tapper and rachel maddow and the rest of them on m s n b c c.n.n. and throughout the media stephanopoulos all of that money b. c. well call themselves and to call themselves journalists the gent tapper said literally thank you supreme court thank you for when they wouldn't take the pennsylvania case last week because as you say and my parents once my parents were going to be disenfranchised they live in pennsylvania thank you and that's just our little sweat nothing example they blew an hour after hour day after day so that is no journalism but the thing here is that all claim they are journalists david so what is their mission here their mission is not to form the public so what is their mission is their mission a good. just. will willingly willfully how bully and become very rich just being an extension of the political class is that i mean do they see that is that what their role is right now is that really kind of grease the works or for the people the pale go ahead there's in my mind there's no doubt about that the amount of money that these journalists get paid if you realize it's not journalism it's entertainment they have a vested interest in securing their space but it's beyond misinformation it's redirection it is almost indoctrination and you say they were actually on twitter blocking the link to the new york post story and they were blocking it in dns so you can even share that information if you want and they were moving the links and then 3 weeks later after the damage has been done because we now know that you don't need to look for voting machines for election interference you don't need to look for algorithms and unplugging software you don't have to look media russians are like you know jokes aside i was just watching online how dr atlas was shamed for having given an interview on our t.v. by c.n.n. because they referred to r.t. as russian propaganda you know i see confession through projection not recognizing or trying to conceal the fact that they are left wing propaganda there to support a candidate and a purpose or a cause of journalism and talk about the f.b.i. being that you know investigating this for 2 years we've seen in michael flynn the f.b.i. has been politicized media has been politicized journalism has been politicized it is no longer about misinformation it is actually a vote over misinformation and censorship and it's ok go ahead steve jump and i was going to impute the question do up how many journalists do i mean you know reporters journalists at the new york times and there are a lot of the new rock you could probably go anywhere near about the best to get you know have provided for 2 years i know i am very big then i really get leaks out of time there there might not be time to jeffrey lurie and grumpy sheryl acted recently in that barrack agree. there had to be many such reporters who knew about this and decided to do nothing with it for 2 years beyond strategic leaking and that's what it's all but came to joe you know it's interesting from what we've heard from all of you that the media is in the service of media and people that pay him and pay them in their donors here but what about the public because the public is not is dumb is these people think i mean they feel so superior intellectually superior morally superior that they think it about who they're talking to and and i think that they will they are brewing today because you know if we look at this election which is not the topic of this program here but there's a lot of disillusion people here because of the role of the media go ahead joe there's no question about that but they are speaking to their own camps and they are confirming their biases and this is a very dangerous thing obviously if you're not getting a counter. viewpoint on an issue i just want to say one thing about the hunting budget i just started it in 2019 when there isn't it was came around to you peter on your show consider news we were right about charisma 2014 when it's right. when when suddenly we knew about from the victoria nuland tape and this by the way is a bipartisan agreement to not mention that the opening act of this whole drama was the coup that united states helped arrange in ukraine and as soon as it happened we heard from newlyn that joe biden was the point man he shows up like in 1000 century colonial situations start giving out job see your cronies and coding his son somehow i'm not saying i know that biden got in that job that clearly biden being the guy in charge it was the viceroy of ukraine and suddenly jeffrey archer who was a friend of the kerry family gets a job monsanto gets in an american becomes the finance minister the day after she becomes ukrainian cities they took over the country and it's funny because biden may have to fire 2 prosecutors now peter have you got. i mean you can't fire it may have to get one in america to protect the sun and maybe himself jokes i have to say and i want to compliment you and consortium news and dot com because as you just said you and i were talking about that and when when the when the impeachment quota what is this fake impeachment thing i just wonder i was jumping up and doesn't do it don't you ever watch crosstabs would you ever read joe's work we've been talking about this for years and they're making it sound like this came out of nowhere ok is it the exact. opposite and i want to also point out that this website supported neither candidate we are nonpartisan and i've never been a fan of trump or biden i don't like either as an easy to be nonpartizan when you can stand in the party but if you recall back in 2 years ago when business started coming up jane meyer in the new yorker about the speech saying was all debunked that biden. has ever been investigated how can something be bunk before it's even investigated to the point when he got his feet here that's the point here i mean you had p.b.s. and yet c.n.n. and safe they're not going to investigate it debunk story how do you know it's debunked if you haven't investigated it stephen i don't know i don't know what i'm going to compound they had i reckon if they had a written. carpenter what can i do with hunter by human hair and then i'm not like he didn't exist back it never happened and i had a computer right and start there right every person on c.n.n. there are that computer and computer and some call the email smacks of the russian empire russian propaganda i mean i learned that they can do anything and i know you don't want to you know we're not talking politics here but you can't i don't believe remove the politics i don't know where i realized that it's been building project i. don't know where are the other trump and when people are barely and probably public that trump is that nazi a racist an authoritative big. they don't record democracy a threat to their country existential threat they don't make people feel justified in saying and doing anything to discredit him including including one on this before we go to the break here including it justify it appear it justified google and twitter and facebook to to abuse their to 30 cut out and you know and for all the talk of election meddling and there is outside countries too that meddle in american politics russia is not in the top 10 maybe not even the top 20 but there is a lot of meddling here but in this election here people understand that it was big tech and the media played a very big role in here and we will rue the day and still coming here are you gentlemen i'm going to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion and media malpractise. history pieces millions of you really do know the. d.-day replacements will be all about making money making profits in some of the corporations international markets import export do you imagine the number of printing diseases in every community. due to new viruses or new microbes that's not true so it is due to one time. to see that look and say you know that moment of discipline or this sort of us our rules are really just security it could only come in to see to these a list that. the plague. if the food industry is successful it will create more jobs to create what i did it work. creates more so i don't see why we shouldn't also fight for the interest i think it is true that we have origination we want we condition i was interested in these we don't behave as if he has been altered that's why. chemistry has also given us fulfilment in many ways by guaranteeing an abundant food supply if we look at our world today there are still famines but there are political famines are caused by political problems are not caused by an inability to grow food and if we look at infectious diseases if you were in the middle of a pandemic now with a pandemic is killing less than one percent of the people that are in facts and in past times pandemics could kill 30 to 70 percent of the people that were infected so chemistry has given us a much improved quality of life in many ways and then we have to ask well with these unintended consequences that are causing species go extinct that are causing environmental injustice is how can we make things better because certainly we can handle those things better than we have. an entire village in alaska has had to move if another country threaten to wipe out an american town. we do everything in our power to protect the. water they escaping climate change poses the same threat right now alaska seems some of the fastest coastal erosion in the world lost about 30 feet. 35 feet of ground in just about 3 months while we were measuring. is back in the teens the river is 35 closer than how ben was 4 i don't think we're part of america or earth for. is your media a reflection of reality. in a world transformed. what will make you feel safe. isolation community. are you going the right way or are you being led. away. what is true what is faith. in the world corrupted you need to descend. to join us in the depths. or remain in the shallow. welcome back to crosstalk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing media malpractise. ok let's go back to david david. important issues that we haven't discussed so far on how do the media manage with a tank the weeks before the election in in favor of the biden campaign and of the democrats on the side who didn't do too well for the democrats that are but that's a topic for another program there were 50. now national intelligence officials that came out in politico and debunked they said this is just. the asli reminiscent of russia meddling in the in the politics in the united states number one where all 50 of them given access to this information i doubt it because none of them quoted it but what the interesting thing is that when we come to today over the last few days when the when it was revealed that in fact hunter is under investigation for tax issues and maybe others where do these 50 intelligence officials stand right now are they just liars i mean i can't speak to the 50 individuals because i don't know about that but going back to something earlier it's not just i would say i don't what do you think i mean you can agree with me or just a great thing you continue but i mean so i you know the media people they're not too bright and you know and they're paid so much money to do whatever they're told and their careers are on the line i get that ok the democrats will do anything for power ok but now i'm talking about people that say they have a commitment to the national security of the united states that have probably a 1000 years collectively in careers here and they came out and said i find that terribly dangerous you can agree and disagree with me but i think that's an important point no 100 percent but i say without commenting on that all you need to do to understand that is to go look at the microphone in judicial saga. doctoring documents in order to get the pfizer wants that they want to get their political adversaries to pursue their political adversaries. while you know everything else they slipped under the rug so it's easy to understand how and why it can happen once you fully appreciate as i do now having documented the michael flynn saga how weaponized and how corrupt the invent the of the prosecutorial system is itself and for people don't appreciate this the f.b.i. you have the f.b.i. attorney in michael flynn altering the documents to facilitate obtaining a pfizer warrant against him against a quarter page and now you can ask how the same agents of justice can potentially be so partisan and so politicized themselves that they will weaponize their own prosecutorial process or weaponized not investigating it explains itself easily without knowing exactly what those 50 individuals said yeah but you don't think joe did in danger and didn't see that one of the things i've noticed since the 2016 election all the way to the present here is that both parties have let the neo cons in ok and if an infiltrator both parties and so ok for to get joe across the line these 50 individuals made a judgment call for the cost for the cop their cause ok not the cause of democracy here but that could make that event itself opens the door to well what happens when another president or another official doesn't follow the line then you're going to have to 50 wise people again on politicos saying i'm safe and then everyone will regret it one day everyone will when you hand the keys of power like that to an elected officials and people that are in the revolving door of the military industrial complex that make so much money here 3 election cycles in a row people are against wars but it doesn't seem to matter because of those 50 people and people of their ilk go ahead joe well peter teligent agencies around the world engage in deception. not just a polite word for lying as you've been calling it the problem is germ. us are supposed to be doing the opposite it's when they act as a conduit as a laundering of intelligence information because some people are skeptical of what intelligence agencies say but less so but the new york times says so if the times is reporting on a unnamed intelligence official saying this that or the other and this is another bipartisan think the republican and democratic media have bought except these kinds of leaks from official leaks from intelligence sources and they believe it they don't challenge it they don't have skepticism why because the publishers of these major media have the same class and elite interests as intelligent people are pushing and therefore they like to create so-called enemies or exaggerate threats abroad and cover up u.s. aggression around the world and this is willingly done by sycophantic journalists who are careerists who are going to go along and not rock that boat if they want to get ahead so we've got a real problem jerk i expect intelligence agencies to lie i expect journalists to challenge and debunk those lies but they don't they're just becoming an appendage of the teligent sages that's a very dangerous situation to have and journalism is over when that happens you know it joe even since you brought up the illegal coup the overthrow of a democratically elected president in ukraine i've been saying ever since this ridiculous russia gate hoax was invented is that the playbook that the that was played out in ukraine is being played out in the united states right now and you know up until you know under actually is under investigation it was working it really was working i mean if you look at public opinion you know and you know i go across the media spectrum here lot of people still believe in all this and even after the most report after everything fell apart everything every single thing fell apart and they still believe that the new york times is running it i think. well the 13th of this month or another story about how russia hats is hacking american infrastructure here they can't let it go steve let me. go ahead 6 you know we have to worry about the implication of the intelligence community here because they have their own agenda too like i said maybe that you know they threw their hat in. with joe here maybe no great love for enthusiasm here but it was all because of trump but we are politics is not always going to be about trump for good or worse ok but again this precedent has been set and no one is being held accountable go ahead economy and brain and the rest of them they could not have planned that obama and i want to stress what i believe is the importance of a bomber pulling the strings for the leading up to trump taking on the 4 years during trump presidency and the fact that he arranged for everybody to drop out of that democratic primary race and get at them by take them out and he's picking the agenda and he's going around by the way writing his book talking about how freedom of the press and conservative media is the number one threat to democracy so let's see where that leads that he's calling the shots but could not have happened without the partnership if we had a real media as we've been mad you know all these years a media that you're going to looking and. questioning and doing but not by this never could have happened we would have known the truth if people read about how to count but not like you said the other guy on there is no meeting and there's a buffer zone and we're in trouble we're going this country and i did a really good night i'm just and peter. i mean talking about running covered you have i think it was n.b.c. having cut you know per run cover for epstein for years when they knew the story it's beyond it's actually beyond not reporting on a story that you have or killing the story it's actually contradicting what isn't known for. internally like they did with this hunter biden thing it's not just that they sense of the links they also ran stories simultaneously saying it's russia this information when they knew internally that it wasn't and so and even as recently as i think it was yesterday n.b.c. running a header saying you know confirming hunter is under criminal probe and then the next line of me repeats that donald trump and his allies repeated baseless claims about hunter corruption during the election they still try to spin it in a way that they know that the people who they have either successfully fooled or who don't want to know better are going to just digest and feel good about having read it you know joe let's go to the next step now because there is an investigation and. i'm sure. i don't want to speculate about or not seeing that no one really knows what they're been looking at been looking at for a while here but they would be president if he's inaugurated next month he's going to be very vulnerable and who's who's going to who's going to be threatening him the intelligence community ok all over again ok and you know considering the frailty of the man and other issues that he has here i wouldn't be surprised that in spring you know they say you know joe we got a real problem here ok we've got a real problem the same thing of the january conversation they call me had with obama and and all the way i will get acknowledge harris will do anything for anybody ok so i meet you in it and the the nexus of all this is who's doing me investigating now i guess you could get an attorney general that will be pliant but then again you know we see this constant destruction of institutions here and on top of that there are people that want to put trump in jail ok ask your he needs the presidency this is all happening in a short amount of time people reviled george w. bush people. by richard nixon but we have been conditioned that we have to move on ok this everything is changing now it's because of the intelligence community and their capture of the media and incidentally both parties go ahead yeah well they're also the meddling in domestic affairs which is really the big issue here on this year i agree that they will cause problems for biden because i think biden is going to let go along with what the intelligence agencies want and i think that's why he was the safe man for them i do think that the republicans will be well practiced payback for russia gate i think this is one of the reasons trump decided not to concede because because the democrats tried to undermine and the election of trump and to try to undermine his presidency try to diligent him ice him and this is what i think republicans will now try to do to biden as payback and hunted by and they may very well be with especially if the republicans control the senate. they will have continued to control the senate they will have investigations there and i think that they will try to make a mess out of that and just not a special prosecutor like i said before by maybe face what happened to fire the 2nd process you know. what do you guys think about it we have one minute left here steve should there be a presser a special prosecutor oh absolutely you know made up of biden in a top of position but if i'm going to fire anybody in the media where we're doing partly bat an eye on telling you they will hardly bat an eye and i want to make a different prediction i actually think if there's going to be calls for impeachment or removal and i think there will be i think is going to come from the left i think when this cat is out of the bag the left is going to say it's too big to put back in there's only one solution for this it's either step down or we remove you and it's going to be president come out harris within a year well i mean i did i said to agreement david i mean she was the chosen one she just the problem is that nobody liked her ok she was anointed but nobody liked her and now they found a way. do you get her past the line i think it makes perfect sense here at the end of the day no one loves joe there was no one in louisiana and he was pulled across the line not by voters in my opinion in my opinion but by the media and by these characters that's all the time we have gentlemen i want to thank my guests montreal new york and instead you know one of the viewers for watching is your r.t.c. in extending remember. to those who did just that it just means that. you don't mind it just became a zone on the. slab because of the my face you know for a long today in that country of the not of. the economy to have more than a. couple set. a month to get an up close look i mean the last. time. around to. turn over the momentum to. look at what's coming in the long. term plan going to come up they can come up each time she has no can go missing obviously you know the i mean people are really happy that i do not going to. be. the pundit make no certainly no borders i'm just delighted to nationalities. you. know so much we don't come with a really we don't look like seeing the whole world pete's sake. commentary close to sleaze the sentencing moments things we can do better we should be. everyone is contributing to each of our own way but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever the challenges created the response has been much so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we are in it together. for to victory or defeat while the u.k.'s leadership celebrates so he sturrock bricks and deal across the english channel the european union's chief negotiator describes it as a loss of both sides. so merry christmas companies in europe see covert cases and deaths as people are placed on a strict measure of storing the festive period. and what a waste of money the us some of the claims the government is throwing away more than 50000000000 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