journalism the become something else and we've got a whole lot of something else right now in american media. bob perry the founder of our website consorting news in the last piece that he wrote before he died exactly 3 months 3 years ago december so he wrote about this dying journalism and because of the partisanship taking it over and the basics of journalism of facts of being neutral of being impartial was going by the wayside he defied it the arjun's of this with the in the reagan administration with the rise of right wing talk radio but then he came to see that especially during the obama administration and it really took off going to trump administration that the democrats were doing the same if not worse than what the right wing had done and when i say democrats i don't i don't call them left i think the democrats a center right but in that nonetheless they're certainly the other party and both sides are using and other democrats because as much or democratic t.v. . particular and newspapers and there are republican i mean you just look at this think it's not only m.s.n. b.c. but let's look at c.n.n. for a moment i don't fight your viewers peter to go to you tube and look up i think it was june 1st 1980 the very 1st broadcast cable network news they had lots of news reports they had an interview with jimmy carter they had a report from the middle east looking critically at israeli politics they even had like a 15 minute investigative report about faulty fuel gauges on commercial airlines the other words they would journalism can be done on tell me what we have now on c.n.n. we have crying on the air and had judy elation because their candidate won it was an embarrassment. and i have something to say about biden later in the one thing i'm sure gonna come up that's the main point i want to make at the beginning here is steve you know the but you know when when there says that mission when you know . by campaign and it needed that hunter it was under investigation actually been under investigation for 2 years where was the mainstream media and i'm thinking of them as n.b.c. and c.n.n. particularly or why didn't they say we have to apologize to our viewers in fact if there is these were this is a real story and we need to cover it but they can't even do that i mean what i worry now is that they're probably you 2 is going through and deleting all of those videos because they're so ashamed of themselves they should be but they're not go ahead well as you don't correctly. journalism and dad the media as we brought it existed although it never existed as we like to believe it existed even back to cronkite days in the 3 network newscasts it would never down the middle if you look back and the people certainly had bias if you look back but. it's bad but that you don't instead of admitting it and you're alluded to that it's you know going back to the gentleman who unfortunately passed that it could. back to the reagan administration right wing talk radio but that talk radio host of which i won and won one back then never of course. we were counted out we had an opinion of palin still that's what we did and do but these people like jake tapper and rachel maddow and the rest of them on end of the n.b.c. c.n.n. and throughout the media stephanopoulos owner of the money b.c. . and you don't call them your analysts the joint kappa said literally thank you supreme court are thank you so when they wouldn't take the pennsylvania case last week because my parents weren't my parents were going to be disenfranchised they live in pennsylvania thank you and that's where i'm not going example they do it hour after hour day after day so that you know get all of them but that then you're not adequate and they are generally david so and so what is their mission here their mission is not to form the public's so what is their mission is their mission or do they just. go willingly willfully how quickly and become very rich just being an extension of the political class is that i mean do they see it that is that what their role is right now is that really kind of grease the works or for the people to pay oh go ahead there's in my mind there's no doubt about that like i said the amount of money that these journalists get paid if you realize it's not journalism it's entertainment they have a vested interest in securing their space but it's beyond misinformation it's redirection it is almost indoctrination and you say they were actually on twitter blocking the link to the new york post story and they were blocking it in dns so you can even share that information if you want and they were moving the links and then 3 weeks later after the damage has been done because we now know that you don't need to look for voting machines for election interference you don't need to look for algorithms and and plug in software you don't know media russians. you know jumps. but i was just watching online how dr atlas was shamed for having given an interview on r t by c.n.n. because they referred to r t as russian propaganda you know i see confession through projection not recognizing or trying to conceal the fact that they are left wing propaganda there to support a candidate and a purpose or a cause of journalism and talk about the f.b.i. being that you know investigating this for 2 years we've seen in michael flynn the f.b.i. has been politicized media has been politicized journalism has been politicized it is no longer about mitt information it is actually a vote over misinformation and censorship and it's ok go ahead steve jump and i was going to tell him peter the question is how many journalists do i mean you know reporters journalists at the new york times where i went all over the new iraq you could post there anywhere know about the best the great you know have provided for 2 years and i know i am very big then i really think at least that one time that there might be something jeffrey miron and accomplish are lacking in revealing that barack agree there had to be many such reporters who knew about this and decided to do nothing with it for 2 years beyond he said t.j. leaking and that's what it's all but it came to joe but you know it's interesting from what we have heard from all of you that the media is in the service of media and people that pay him and pay them and they're donors here but what about the public because the public is not is dumb is these people think i mean they feel so superior intellectually superior morally superior that they think it about who they're talking to and and i think that they will they are ruining the day because you know if we look at this election which is not the topic of this program here but there's a lot of disillusion people here because of the role of the media go ahead joe there's no question about that but they are speaking to their own camps and they are confirming their biases and this is a very dangerous thing obviously if you're not getting a counter. viewpoint on a new. i just want to say one thing about the hunter budget i just started in 2019 when there isn't it was came around to you peter on your show consider news we were right about charisma 2014 when it's right. when when suddenly we knew about from the victoria nuland tape and this by the way is a bipartisan agreement to not mention that the opening act of this whole drama was the coup that united states helped arrange in ukraine and as soon as it happened we heard from newlyn that joe biden was the point man he shows up like in 1000 century colonial situations start giving out job see your cronies and coding his son somehow i'm not saying i know that biden got in that job that clearly biden being the guy in charge it was the viceroy of ukraine and suddenly jeffrey archer who was a friend of the kerry family gets a job monsanto gets in an american becomes the finance minister the day after she becomes ukrainian cities they took over the country and it's funny because biden may have to fire 2 prosecutors now peter have got one in ukraine fired and may have to get the one in america fired to protect the son and maybe himself just have to say i want to compliment you and consortium news and dot com because as you just said you and i were talking about that and when when the when the impeachment quote what is this fake impeachment thing i just wonder i was jumping up and doesn't do it don't you ever watch crossed out don't you ever read joe's work we've been talking about this for years and they're making it sound like this came out of all nowhere ok i mean it isn't the exact. opposite and i want to also point out that this website supported neither candidate we are nonpartisan and i've never been a fan of john or biden i don't like either that's easy to be nonpartisan when you can't stand either party but if you recall back in 2 years ago on business started coming up jane meyer in the new yorker about this be saying was all debunked that biden has ever been investigated how could something. you bunked before seeing them investigate the point let me go to steve here that's the point here i mean you had p.b.s. and c.n.n. and say they're not going to investigate it debunks going how do you know it's the bump if you haven't investigated it see i don't not only was in the background they had eyewitness they had written this is spoke to tucker carlson who was at the meeting with john wagner with hunter by wednesday and then i'm not like look he didn't exist i could never happen and they had a computer right instead of reliable sources on c.n.n. saying that computers and some computer only some call e-mails smacks of the russian empire russian propaganda i mean these people lunatics are saying and do anything and i know you don't want to you know we're not talking politics here but you can't i don't believe remove the politics this is a whole new world where well as i said it's been building for decades this is a whole new world under trump and when people are bullied and tell the public that trump is a nazi a racist an authoritative or threats of democracy it's right for the country existential threat that people feel justified in saying and doing anything to distracting them encoding including one on this before we go to the break here including it justify it appear justified who go and twitter and facebook to to abuse their $230.00 because out in the end you know for all the talk of election meddling and there is outside countries do that meddle in american politics russia is not in the top 10 maybe not even the top 20 but there is a lot of meddling here but in this election here people understand that it was big tech and the media played a very big role in here and we will rue the day still coming here all right gentlemen i'm going to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on media malpractise stay active. today the industry prefers to spend millions of euros you know being delayed mediations i will be sniffy all about making money making profits in some of the corporations international markets import export do you imagine the number of chronic diseases that are in every community today it is not due to new viruses all new microbes that's not true so it is due to time less will see the look and say you know the moment all discipline of this sort of muscles are really just accumulate could only come in to see them to be so many years that. the plague. if the so food industry is successful it will create more jobs it will create more value added it will create more growth so i don't see why we shouldn't also fight for the interest something into st outset that we are british and we want regulation i was an interest in the freedom behave zinnias penalty that's fine. by the demick no certainly no borders just blind to nationalities. as much. we don't look like seeing. each stick. coming crisis with this system to time so we can do better we should. everyone is contributing way but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever challenges crayford to response has been masked so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we are in it together. an entire village in alaska has had to move if another country trying to wipe out an american town. we do everything in our power to protect the. water then escaping climate change poses the same threat right now alaska seems some of the fastest coastal erosion in the world lost about 35 feet. 35 feet of ground in just about 3 months while we were measuring. is fast and that means the river is 35 closer than how many words or anything were a part of america or earth from. welcome back to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing media malpractise. ok let's go back to david david. important issues that we haven't discussed so far on how the the media manage with big tech the weeks before the election in in favor of the biden campaign and of the democrats on the side it didn't do too well for the democrats that are but that's a topic for another program there were 50. now national intelligence officials that came out in politico and debunked they said this is just. the asli reminiscent of russia meddling in the in the politics in the united states number one where all 50 of them given access to this information i doubt it because none of them quoted it but what the interesting thing is that when we come to today over the last few days when the when it was revealed that in fact hunter is under investigation for tax issues and maybe others where do these 50 intelligence officials stand right now are they just liars i mean i can't speak to the 50 individuals because i don't know about that but you're going back to something earlier it's not that i would say i don't what do you think i mean you can agree with me or just a great thing you can continue but i mean so i have you know the media people they're not too bright and you know and they're paid so much money to do whatever they're told and their careers are on the line i get that ok the democrats will do anything for power ok but now i'm talking about people that say they have a commitment to the national security of the united states that have probably a 1000 years collectively in careers here and they came out and said i find that terribly dangerous oh. going to agree and disagree with me but i think that's an important point no 100 percent but i say without commenting on that all you need to do to understand that is to go look at the michael flynn judicial saga at the ice age and doctoring documents in order to get the pfizer warrants that they want against their political adversaries to pursue their political adversaries while you know everything else they slip under the rug so it's easy to understand how and why it can happen once you fully appreciate as i do now having documented the michael flynn saga how weaponized and how corrupt the invent the of the prosecutorial system is itself and for people don't appreciate this the f.b.i. you have the f.b.i. attorney in michael flynn altering the documents to facilitate obtaining a pfizer warrant against him against a quarter page and now you can ask how the same agents of justice can potentially be so partisan and so politicized themselves that they will weaponize their own prosecutorial process or weaponized not investigating it explains itself easily without knowing exactly what those 50 individuals said yeah but you don't think joe did in danger and didn't see that one of the things i've noticed since the 2016 election all the way to the present here is that both parties have let the neo cons in ok and if it infiltrated both parties and so ok for to get joe across the line these 50 individuals made a judgment call for the cost for the cop their cause ok not the cause of democracy here but that could make that event itself opens the door to well what happens when another president or another official doesn't follow the line then you're going to have to 50 wise people again on politicos saying i'm safe and then everyone will regret it one day everyone will when you hand the keys of power like that to an elected officials and people that are in the revolving door of the military industrial complex that make so much money here i mean 3 election cycles in a row people are against wars. but it doesn't seem to matter because of those 50 people and people of their ilk go ahead joe well peter teligent agencies around the world engage in deception. which is a polite word for lying as you've been calling it the the problem is journalists are supposed to be doing the opposite it's when they act as a conduit as a laundering of intelligence information because some people are skeptical of what intelligence agencies say but less so but the new york times says so if the times is reporting on a 5th unnamed intelligence official saying this that or the other and this is another bipartisan think the republican and democratic media have bult except these kinds of leaks from official leaks from intelligence sources and they believe it they don't challenge it they don't have skepticism why because the publishers of these major media have the same class and elite interests as intelligent people are pushing and therefore they like to create so-called enemies or exaggerate threats abroad and cover up u.s. aggression around the world and this is willingly done by sycophantic journalists who are careerists who are going to go along and not rock that boat if they want to get ahead so we've got a real problem journalist i expect intelligence agencies to lie i expect journalists to challenge and debunk those lies but they don't they're just becoming an appendage of the teligent sages that's very dangerous situation to have an journalism is over when that happens you know it joe even since you brought up the illegal coup the overthrow of a democratically elected president in ukraine i've been saying ever since this ridiculous russia gate hoax was invented is that the playbook that the that was played out in ukraine is being played out in the united states right now and you know up until you know under actually is under investigation it was working it really was working. i mean if you look at public opinion. you know i go across the media spectrum here a lot of people still believe in all this stuff and even after the mother report after everything fell apart and every single thing fell apart and they still believe that the new york times is running it i think as on the 13th of this month another story about how russia had its hacking american infrastructure here they can't let it go steve let me. go to the you know steve we have to worry about the implication of the intelligence community here because they have their own agenda to like and said maybe that you know they threw their hat in. with joe here maybe no great lover enthusiasm here and it was all because of trump but we are politics is not always going to be about trump for good or worse ok but again this precedent has been set and no one is being held accountable go ahead economy and brennan and the rest of them they could not have pulled an obama and i want to stress what i believe is the importance of obama pulling the strings for the leading up to trump taking over the 4 years during trump's presidency and the fact that he arranged for everybody to drop out of that democratic primary race and give it some biden and take them out howard and he's taking the agenda and he's going around by the way running as both talking about how basically freedom of the press and conservative media is that is the number one threat to democracy so let's see where that leads as he's calling the shots but this could not have happened without the partnership if we had a real enemy as we have been imagined with all these years of media that journalists looking into certain things questioning and being not biased this number could have happened we would have known the truth these people rather than how accountable but now like you said to me she was gone there is no meeting and there is no buffer zone and run trouble this isn't going federal this country as bad existed really does not exist. and peter going to talk i mean talking about running covered you have i think it was n.b.c. having come you know per run cover for epstein for years when they knew the story it's beyond it's actually beyond not reporting on the story that you have are killing the story it's actually contradicting what is a known fact internally like they did with this hunter biden thing it's not just at the center of the links they also ran stories simultaneously saying it's russia this information when they knew internally that it wasn't and so you know and even as recently as i think it was yesterday n.b.c. running a header saying you know confirming hunter is under criminal probe and then the next line of me repeats that donald trump and his allies repeated baseless claims about hunter corruption during the election they still try to spin it in a way that they know that the people who they have either successfully fooled or who don't want to know better or going to just digest and feel good about having read you know joe let's go to the next step now because there is an investigation and. i'm sure. i don't want to speculate about a scene that no one really knows what they're been looking at me looking at for a while here but they would be president if he's inaugurated next month he's going to be very vulnerable and who's who's going to who's going to be threatening him the intelligence community ok all over again ok and you know considering the frailty of the man and other issues that he has here i wouldn't be surprised that in spring you know they say you know joe we got a real problem here ok we've got a real problem the same thing of the january conversation they call me had with obama and and all the way i will get no heiress will do anything for anybody ok so i mean it the the nexus of all this is who's doing me investigating now i guess you could get an attorney general that will be pliant but then again you know . we see this constant destruction of institutions here and on top of that there are people who want to put trump in jail ok ask your he needs the presidency this is all happening in a short amount of turning people reviled george w. bush people written by richard nixon but we have been. there we have to move on ok this everything is changing now it's because of the intelligence community and their capture of the media and incidentally both parties go ahead yeah well they're also the meddling in domestic affairs which is really the big issue here i'm not sure i agree that they will cause problems for biden because i think biden is going to go along with what the intelligence agencies want and i think that's why he was the safe man for them i do think that the republicans will be well practiced payback for russia gate i think this is one of the reasons trump decided not to concede because because the democrats tried to undermine and the election of trump then to try to undermine his presidency try to diligent him ice him and this is what i think republicans will now try to do to biden as payback and hunted by and they may very well be with especially if the republicans control the senate. they will have continued to control the senate they will have investigations there and i think that they will try to make a mess out of that and just not a special prosecutor like i said before by maybe facing having to fire the 2nd process you know. what do you guys think about it we have one minute left here steve should there be a presser a special prosecutor i absolutely you know made up of biden at a top of position but if i'm going to fire anybody in the media where we're doing partly bat an eye on telling you they will hardly bat an eye and i want to make different prediction i actually think if there's going to be calls for impeachment or removal and i think there will be i think is going to come from the left i think when this cat is out of the bag the left is going to say it's too big to put back in there's only one solution. this is either step down or we remove you and it's going to be president come on terrorists within a year well i mean i did i said to aggrievement david of me she was the chosen one she just the problem is that nobody liked her other gauge she was anointed but nobody liked her and now they found a way to get her past the line i think it makes perfect sense here at the end of the day no one loves joe there was no 1000 and he was pulled across the line not by voters in my opinion in my opinion but by the media and by these deep sea characters as all the time we have gentlemen who want to take my guess montreal new york and 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