of music and he's the author of a new book acid for children a memoir and he's now nominated for a grammy for the audio version of that book there i say that the memoir will allow us to understand what makes flea tick sorry i've been waiting on that all day i had to get it that lehi you know really. love will run in the trails with my dogs this morning and then it seems soft boiled 'd eggs and listen to some music and now i'm talking ear drinking coffee so good morning. then on the home run a tell you what hounds are more important as the were the world gets weirder it's like that old seinfeld bet when he would come home and a dog would go that's that guy that statue guy noriko always make you feel good no matter how grim it is some glad to hear you're out on the trails with your hounds flee the eye that may yet this new profound pleasure so thankful luncheons so her late mentioning this overlay conservatory of music you know it's a nonprofit music school i started nearly 20 years ago now as we're getting riyadh and you know we have 800 students send them of all ages playing in ensembles and orchestras a synonym choirs and learning all the orchestral and band instruments. and it's absolutely awesome it's been really great a sings ever been a part of and because of covert right now we were shut down to the point where we were doing socially distance privately socially just private lessons and now we shut down completely because it's just gotten so crazy in california but we will open up again you know in the coming months as soon as that health situation allows and i can't help but mention that i'm also starting 'd a new nonprofit music school in watts in south los angeles kind of right in the middle of all the projects there and very excited about that to really love that community and excited to start a music school there and means everything to me so thank you for mentioning that. play on it call the one down in watts the watts tower. tower records what's tower records but i mean we're hearing all the that's what i whenever i think of a lot so i think of the iconic towers that they're now 320 years that's a great run by the you must at the beginning when you start these things it's tough to push them out of harbor but 20 years what a legacy about how many kids have gone through the conservatory over the decades thousands sauza mz of kids you know it's mostly at an after school activity it's not a conservatory in the traditional sense anyone can go you don't need to audition or anything. and it it's been a place like you know a real social hub for kids and a lot of kids have gone through and gone on to go to great you know. you know juilliard and berkeley school of music and all these things and some of you know just played for a while and gotten a greater few shish and sinews ik i'm gonna do something else and some are probably complete you know dealing with it on a corner somewhere you know i mean i've you know i get to get sick i'm through there but but it's just been a great thing and to get it started you know took some money in had money to start it and we've relied on fundraisers that we do and stuff but but really that for me and i cannot regard in terms of just getting it going and all the you know the labor and the bureaucracy that it takes to keep a school running so. the big thing really like the big lesson for me with that is if you have a good idea rolling. on it now and it's like busy a really good idea like that it gathers its own momentum you know and something esle up the community and so we needed. something that brings people together like that all different kinds of people. it's really good. think about how therapeutic music is for kids especially in this baffling world i went to a wedding around a year ago before it got weird and it was like a world famous musician now i won't break his common say who it was but he was like talk and all of us civilians and then the band who was sort of a swing band they were jam and then they took their break i went over to talk to my friend the musician he was gone i went to the bathroom he set it back in the. wood the musicians and they were all dudes talkin in short ad like i remember they get boy if there's any sort of bonding musicians find other musicians and love the chatted up the they want to catharsis yeah it's amazing and i've done like been lucky to travel around africa and stuff you know playing with different musicians and i always like to play with people all over the world but lots of people who i can't speak to you know but you sit down you start strawman and vibrate and bump and lawn and doing all your stuff and band connecting in a in a in like a serious way you know and. this in amazing and amazing canyon for musicians and non-musicians all the way around and you know much like any trade or form or athletics and stuff like that books now i know flea when you see we started out your horn player and as often as a case where the fledgling trumpet player it is a cough and this thing at the beginning i know you had some turbulence in your childhood can you speak to that a little from a very young age i was i was a street kid my parents weren't paying attention i was out in the street i was robbing i was doing drugs i was a bad kid you know i was just a little petty thief in street rat. and. and you know that what bought me to that point you know like i started off with a real square household with him up my father who works yes trillion government i was born in australia we came to america for his government job. and and then my mom left him and marry a junky jazz musician who lived in his parents' basement and things politically turned upside down and i just went wild and and then we moved to l.a. and when i was 11 in 1972 lived right smack in the middle of hollywood and i just was on the street i was wild and i started getting a lot of trouble and luckily for me i had the grounding in 2 things that i really loved one was literature and since i've been a little boy even i was a complete. you know failure in school never paid attention or showed russian or anything or whatever i'd love 'd books always loved books like and to this day i don't go a day without sitting down with a book and and like being completely in awe that you know. i'm reading this great one right now called the color of lightning by paulette giles which credible but then the other thing which i noted for is playing music and or when my mom got together with this jazz musician guy. i was exposed to a really high level of music. you know this jazz that operates is such sophisticated music and as a little kid i didn't know that it was sophisticated i didn't know that charlie parker was different than the beatles or pop music or that beethoven was different then then you know frank sinatra it was just all music m. and i heard it when i was a kid i was all around on the floor like in ecstasy like just seeing colors and shapes in my imagination or set a set aflame and all of this stuff and and and these are like touchstones for things that were beautiful so new zick really guided me and saved me from being a complete ne'er do well disaster every human being you know. and so many you know for it when i think about church and when i think about your for lat your father and your stepfather and some of us i assume your father who was the. it worked in the government might have been more of let's say a smooth crooner whereas the jazz musician must have been discordant like miles on but just proof or something for to have you in the middle that that stretch bad that that certainly would open a young kid's head up and probably scare the living hell out of him because you were going to stimuli from all over the map right where you were a frightened kid or just an angry wonder how would you classify yourself look at back it's difficult you know when you're a kid and you have all these feelings and you know my real father was super strict and very militant and not a chip and there was no fooling around and then the other guy was you know a drug addict. wild man and they were just nobles and nothing you know doesn't do whatever you want go out maybe i'll see if you come back here to sleep you know. so it i think as a kid i had all kinds of feelings and fear was definitely one of them and an anger of course and frustration but. you know when you're a kid and you have those feelings it's difficult to recognize them as such as you know what i mean you still going to go play basketball with your friends and you're still going to go you know see what day allows and get into stuff you know him and i. as a kid i was you know my stepdad was turned out to be you know very difficult it was very violent and it was a really scary house to be and and i think i was shell shocked a lot because he would really lose it or at least has you rampages and what i remember most like was just wanting to get away you know just wanted to get as far away from that house as i could you know well you can escape into the world of music too and like you said fully kids are blessed with some sort of unconscience ability to compartmentalize i don't even think they realize that term they're not into jargon like that but at some point you were able to leave a fractious dinner table hit it with your friends and thank god that they're able to do that and just bond plug for a couple hours because it can get can get weird on the home front we're talkin to well we're having an interesting chat with our friend michael bizzare the fling from the flick listen to me put on from its weight from the chili peppers but he's the author of a memoir heron as you can see well i've read enough book about the beatles that i know there's very fascinating books that lead them up so that the back of that truck that they were they both meet the stuff before that equally fascinating and it's not one way will talk fully more about his childhood the memoir the book 'd and all that right up to the side that a spoiler plus one. universe which really of. information question. of those that is the culture both realities of the fish they were called watching you can you can hear for change if you can touch it with shapes colors 'd. but i'm sure loser picked out that explosion. earlier with a different bed paris gun another researcher to. american masters weapon of mass communication is spreading and developing. a new bad way to marry and there's a danger that the gender of m.t.v. has been presented to mobile devices more than 12000000000 contaminated country if you don't need to know about that to your mother. mary. against alternative vision. if you start to question a regulated 6 year old. girl aircraft is it enough for you to media narrative the undercover and i'm going to disable the site. if you will get exposed or i'll take your complaint decontaminate my low self your eyes and break everything to. track down where mary. you can defend yourself and your reference from the weapons of mass communications . thanks for the r.t. to. give the enemy else things are you near him near. little simple spiros menchu and you read of those lists nissho to show you just what that also has been have. but some to publish or do you must draw will quote the limit you will quote them. to quickly easing in months alone will be a new washington for the new but if it's for profit and you must say you're in the right at the quote above the well at the least most of them the last a do it in you mustn't those legit want to apply need keep the most of them there will still police and you will rule of thumb with sheldon what all the money. is like god only goes with that in the us those days i need some i would put in that will in the month of the buddhists. talk a little ball with the flaky during the break we're talking about his his new memoir astrid for children memoir michael pfleger and he knew his ball i got to give him that he must have had court sides because he's fallen that tell me about the title of the book flacid for children i think it's named after a friend song or something tell me yeah i was some friends of mine had a band they had a song called acid for the children that was really good it went sammy davis he had one eye but he had acid for the children walter doesn't it is frozen now but yet acid for the children and it just kind of went on like through all these guys are trying and that's like that jim carroll saga people who've died you remember that very. elevated yeah my research was a brilliant book on it. yeah but but it was kind of i mean it was a 2 part one was i just i like the sound of those words together like the putting forward them. to i you know took my share of l.s.d. as a kid and i think it was really good for me. i think it really helped me to make wise choices and to see some truths that became universal truths and signpost for me in my life. so i think that like years properly which it was not always the case with me or with most people it can be really beneficial stuff but it's not the book has nothing to do with that like i'm not writing about the benefits of last and i think in some cases it can be very harmful as well however those are kind of the reasons and i just kind of like it it summed up my childhood like i kind of thought about it i don't know if you ever took acid yourself but an acid trip is kind of her journey and has a real arc to it a beginning a middle of an end and a kind of saw my childhood as i wrote they started to have this this. are to it. until i got to the end of the book that you know i left me to a certain in a certain place where i had certain resolutions i had made and certain things had resolved i had a lot to learn and i was still to to make huge mistakes in my life. but i just kind of compared to you know that's what i mean it's not a perfunctory war will do the perfunctory warning about l.s.d. because there's enough frail people in the world who would take it in and you don't know what happens and that being said i do find it fascinating that i just finished a great book about kerry grabbed by a man named scott i mean and he did 125 supervised l.s.d. trips over his life and he said that it helped him deal with the chasm that was his childhood interesting we've talked to you about something similar his mother he found out later in life had been committed and he couldn't remain he could not terminus had the did he know that that he not no that was in the nile was a fall but he did not see his mother for a long time found out she had been in a home and was so wracked by all that to find truth he started to do alice the once again spreading the warning flag up but i do think we have to talk about he's like that it unlocks or you for him i assume that did the same for you yes it definitely get and you know in the beginning when they discovered l.s.d. i can remember that the chemist that that found it but it was 'd 'd use really you know clinically with guys like cary grant a lot there's a great book came out called how to change your mind by michael pollan a couple of years ago and he really recounts the whole 'd history of the clinical trials and all these really healthy things not a great success they were having with people dealing with p.t.s.d. unresolved trauma drug addiction all these things and they were having an amazingly high success. with the l.s.d. trials and of course you know there were l. . comments of the government they wanted to use it as you know rap and as like a truth serum and all this stuff from and to weaponize it they were but there were there all things about it that were really positive as well as yes there are people who are not equipped to take it and just because of the general nature of their psyche she doesn't not take it but you know getting it illegal and making it illegal and getting like basically outline it is kind of throwing the baby out with the bathwater you know. people who people certainly go to their corners when something comes up societal they don't they it's interesting to hear bitch i think about it the freaks more go to the temporary home go to acid for south understanding the government goes to it to weaponize rightly so most of the world's republican are not for me but it's funny to be people do go to their corners the minutes the kid hits the blocks the side you know well. country and then we would know anything about people being polarized over issues with. well i saw a quote your book flee and it seems to me we are in the the golden era of well here's the quote from the book the greatest fault of humankind belongs to those who think their view of what's real is only the truth what if people who believe themselves to be liberal minded are the ones who are closing their minds at any given moment in history i look around the world right now and i see people insisting on certain things that might be overall good but i always admire outliers or i am reading a book about herman mankowitz the man who wrote citizen kane always the outlier always sort of the crank who wanted to discuss things and he would pitch out and just take the devil's advocate position i'm thinking these are not golden times for devil's advocate so your thoughts. i agree 100 percent. so my own personal political leanings usually lean towards the progressive liberal side. i find as much hypocrisy and arrogance on the liberal side as i do on the conservative side from the most extreme to the more moderate people like to belong to a group and say we're right the other guys the bad guys who are right and they like to be completely confident and arrogant in their their. what they think and want view and whether it comes to politics or social justice what ever it is and the only like the brave thing to do when a difficult thing to do is to reasonably discuss without becoming an insulting match but you know between to understand like look i'm an environmental activist i want to do anything to save the world i'm you know very 'd 'd like pro you know cohen violent and but at the same time a psych would have someone works as a coal miner the dad worked as a coal miner the granddaddy worked as a call lennox and that's all they know and that's how they know how to survive you know and yet if you come in and say no coles bad you starve you know what i mean. like find another job we've got to save the world said yesterday dialogue there has to be understanding as to be a building of bridges between sides and that's what we've got as human beings and it's the most difficult thing to do it's way easier to sit and snipe at people once a year and we should be able to find out just once who in an honest poster in this world would turn into a polite culture again tomorrow because everybody is operating under the cloak of complete anonymity and being as vile as they can and i would say yeah just like for healing it has to be unity and dialogue and understanding and looked at is no excuse for any kind of racism there's no excuse for you know all the unconscionable behavior that people engage in hurting one another and. and you know there is hysterical racism in this country and areas business and it you know needs to be addressed. people are one another. let me at let me ask you you seem very healed to me now i don't know if i don't know your personal story that's i may have to read this book to get all of it i've read the cursory stuff but do you feel happy as a man talks about running with his dogs having soft boiled eggs i find that the suppress a city of those moments is what makes you happy there's no cosmic sword from the stone moment where all of a sudden you're alumina aided by all this good stuff it is the piecing together of a walk a run with your dog soft boiled eggs having a coffee that's what makes happiness right i mean yeah it is a censuses that make happy but. i think there are philosophy and attitudes and credos to live by that create those situations and it created each day like if we're capable 'd of at least aspiring to and working towards one being present in the moment to living a life where are our life is based around uplifting people that we me and being kind and shining a light and doing whatever we can to create a more loving environment wherever we go we're going to create their situations and we're going to afford ourselves you know to be able to go running without auction have coffee and to have meaningful connections for people who we care about and love and to build bridges and create new ones as our life goes on. sure nader at at your absolute nadir flea when you were in substance problematic with substances let's say did you still consider yourself a kind person where you still kind of even in your ebb i thought that i was kind but in retrospect i wasn't always you know. i was also selfish and. what i thought was funny. you know things i when i was a kid and i write about this in my book you know one of the things is there's a part about i wanted so much to stir the pot you know what i mean i got off just being wild and so i would walk into a room people be sitting in a room and like a bunch of people sitting in a room is makes an app and you know it i mean and like i do anything i'd throw food at someone i'd pull them up and slap my insta t.v. and i'd be doing that one time in a party like some was watching that's what i did that's a basketball player i didn't like people got furious and challenge me to fight an enemy not just dumb stuff but like i thought i just wanted action you know i wanted things to happen and and and and i know it took me a while to learn it like hey yeah action is good things happening is good events are good i do love being in the moment of being you know getting wild but nothing trumps kindness and love and thoughtfulness to your other human beings and i used to you know show that out the window oftentimes just to stir up. you know what or yeah i think if i think you're 58 now i can't tell you how many people i interview and i don't try to go deep with people if they want to go deep but i can't tell you how many people find out exactly the script that you have including myself where i used to think like pain and my idiosyncrasy was so precious when i was young i feel like i was forcing it on the the planet as a whole in a figurative sense not an actual sense i didn't have your celebrity but it began to be so tedious where i thought you know maybe doing today is to not be impinged on by high energy weird guy and i started like thinking about the other people that how their groove today is just to. not have it be you whack and you're on the t.v. you get out of it it's because of that happens maybe late twenty's early thirty's for very and i found that a great palate that cooled my jets but i love that feeling. yeah it's nice to. to leave a situation a situation be like hey what i cared about in that situation was trying to give people hope and faith even if even if it's like i know for myself just like if i walk into like a diner somewhere and you know pittsburgh and i don't know anyone i'm on tour and i sit down at a plate adulated that brings it to me gives me an actual smile like a real smile you know and it touches me because she did that and in that moment she was present she was with her self and she didn't just want to tap she was actually a nice person and just learning to love their food tasted better i felt better and i was more empowered to go about my day and do a good job at what i'm doing you know once the stop right there you think it's not where that i was born in pittsburgh and florida as there are all of the cities he's been in on the road tells me i want to come here and for others i believe that we mentioned earlier but the reason what inspired this interview today is that i did write this book acid for the children and i spoke the audio book which was a real profound experience for me like after being a writer being a reader. and you know giving it voice was a 'd real cathartic experience for me and that you know lots of audio books came out last year thousands of them and that mine got chosen to be nominated for a grammy really means a lot to me normal like i always think of myself i don't care about these dumb awards i don't mean anything i'm a next artist what matters is my expression in a in but but to be recognized and to be nominated for a grammy. really does mean a lot to me. have won it for a grammy so i guess i just want to you know that's what i really kind of want to say that it does mean a lot to me and i'm very grateful for. clay it's good to meet you brother you know what i quite thought you were going to be but you're a super cool cat and then i'm glad to see a day it's 15 a what thomas wolfe the great author always called it a man and fool you seem legitimately like a man in full and it's good to meet you brother you have a nice holiday thanks for the kind words dennis it's really nice to meet you as well. later gator dennis miller plus one that's right friend flake. is there such a thing as public opinion after all after 2 elections like this in a. large imperfect because there is more than just one. or 2 good reasons not to trust. an archie exclusive wiki leaks confirms that the authenticity of a recording that could spin the narrative on julian assange it shows the whistleblower did try to prevent not facilitate the release of thousands of sensitive u.s. cables it is claimed the courts and knew about the tape when deciding on his extradition to america. it's evidence that you and i can construe that this is all sent to me it's not new to the courts in the u.k. transcript for this conversation was presented to the port and september. also with coded 900 cases creepy.