media recover yes the short answer is no no in the short term anyway i think bottom line is partisanship is dish roiling if it hasn't already destroyed journalism because journalism must be nonpartisan or else sees it ceases to be journalism the become something else and we've got a whole lot of something else right now in american media. bob perry has you know i'm the founder of our website consorting news in the last piece that he wrote before he died exactly 3 months 3 years ago december he wrote about this dying journalism and because of the partisanship taking it over and the basics of journalism of facts. being nutro of being impartial was going by the wayside he defied it the arjun's of this with the in the reagan administration with the rise of right wing talk radio but then he came to see that especially during the. obama administration and it really took off going to trumpet and station that the democrats were doing the same if not worse than what the right wing had done and when i say democrats i don't i don't call them left i think the democrats a center right but in that nonetheless they're certainly the other party and both sides are using and how the democrats because there's more or less democratic t.v. particular and newspapers and there are republican i mean you just look at this think it's not only m.s.n. b.c. but let's look at c.n.n. for a moment i don't fight your viewers peter to go to you tube and look up i think it was june 1st 1980 the very 1st broadcast cable network news they had lots of news reports they had an interview with jimmy carter they had a report from the middle east looking critically at israeli politics they even had like a 15 minute investigative report about faulty fuel gauges on commercial airlines know the words they would journalism can be done on tell me what we have now on c.n.n. we have crying on the air had judy elation because their candidate won it was an embarrassment. and i have something to say about biden later in the one thing i'm sure going to come up a i stand that's the main point i want to make at the beginning is steve you know the but you know when when there's this that mission when you know. by campaigning it needed that hunter was under investigation actually been under investigation for 2 years where was the mainstream media and i'm thinking of them as n.b.c. and c.n.n. particularly well why didn't they say we have to apologize to our viewers in fact that there is these were this is a real story and we need to cover it but they can't even do that i mean what i worry now is that there probably u 2 is going through and deleting all of those videos because they're so ashamed of themselves they should be but they're not go ahead well you don't correctly. journalism and dad the media as we brought it existed although it never existed as we like to. leave it existed even back to cronkite days in the 3 network newscasts it was never down the middle if you look back and these people certainly had biases if you look back but it said instead but the junk is instead of admitting it and generally new to that it's you know it goes back to the gentleman who unfortunately passed that it goes back to the reagan administration and right wing talk radio but that talk radio host of which iow i won and was run back then never called ourselves journalists we would talk show host we had an opinion we're supposed to that's what we did and do but these people like jake tapper and rachel maddow and the rest of them on m s n b c c.n.n. and throughout the media stephanopoulos all of that money a.b.c. well call themselves and to call themselves journalists the gent tapper said literally thank you supreme crew are thank you for when they wouldn't take the pennsylvania case last week because you saying my parents once my parents were going to be disenfranchised they live in pennsylvania thank you and that's just our little sweat nothing example they do an hour after hour day after day so there is no journalism but that thing here is that all claim they are journalists david so what is their mission here their mission is not to form the public so what is their mission is their mission do they just. willingly willfully how awfully become very rich just being an extension of the political class is that i mean do they see that is that what their role is right now is that really kind of grease the works or for the people that pay them go ahead there's in my mind there's no doubt about that like i the amount of money to be journalists get paid if you realize it's not journalism it's the entertainment they have a vested interest in securing their space but beyond misinformation it's redirection it is almost indoctrination and you say they were actually on twitter blocking the link to the new york post or. or and they were blocking it in dns so you can even share that information if you want and they were moving the links and then 3 weeks later after the damage has been done because we now know that you don't need to look for voting machines for election interference you don't need to look for algorithms and unplugging software you don't have to look media russians like you know jokes aside i was just watching online how dr atlas was shamed for having given an interview on r t by c.n.n. because they referred to r t as russian propaganda you know i see a concession through projection not recognizing or trying to conceal the fact that they are left wing propaganda there to support a candidate and a purpose or a cause of journalism and talk about the f.b.i. being that you know investigating this for 2 years we've seen in michael flynn the f.b.i. has been politicized media has been politicized journalism has been politicized it is no longer about misinformation it is actually about overt misinformation and censorship and it's ok go ahead steve jump and i was going to tell him peter the question is how many journalists do i mean you know reporters journalists at the new york times when i went all over the new iraq you could probably go anywhere near about the best the gate you know have provided for 2 years and i know i am very big then i really think at least i have a time there i don't there much time jeffrey miron and grumpy sharyl attkisson recently in that barrack agree there had to be many such reporters who knew about this and decided to do nothing with it for 2 years beyond strategic leaking and that's what it's all but came to joe you know it's interesting from what we have heard from all of you the media is in the service of media and people that pay him and pay them and they're donors here but what about the public because the public is not as dumb as it is these people think i mean they feel so superior intellectually superior morally superior that they think it about who they're talking to and and i think that they will they are ruining the day because. as you know we look at this election which is not the topic of this program here but there's a lot of disillusion people here because of the role of the media go ahead joe there's no question about that but they are speaking to their own camps and they are confirming their biases and this is a very dangerous thing obviously if you're not getting a counter. viewpoint on an issue i just want to say one thing about the hunter by just i just started it in 29 and i know you don't want to you know it but we're not talking politics here but you can't i don't believe remove the politics her don't know where i live there has been building projects there's a lot of her in the world under trump and when people are fairly and part of the public that trump of that nazi or racist an authoritative. threat to democracy a threat to the country existential threat. people we are justified in saying and doing anything to discredit him clothing including one on this before we go to the break here including it justify it appear justified google and twitter and facebook to to abuse their 230 cutout and you know and for all the talk of election meddling and there is outside countries too that meddle in american politics russia is not in the top 10 maybe not even the top 20 but there is a lot of meddling here but in this election here people understand that it was b. tech and the media played a very big role in here and we will rue the day and still coming here are a gentlemen i'm going to jump in you know we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion and media malpractise stay with hurting. me. i max kaiser one more of my guide to financial survival this is. a device used by professional scallywags to earn money. that's right these as for us are simply not accountable and we're just adding more and more to them. totally destabilize the global economy you need to protect yourself and get informed as are . little simple spiros when sure when you read of those lists nissho to show you just what that also has been. but so the progress we're doing lots to draw. you will quickly. months alone with. the belief that it's all profit and you must know the right at the core of the what all the roles. do it in you must that those like you with a clue post them also from the store but if you are. ashamed and not all the money . out of this. summit with putin that would know more than the buddhists. welcome back to cross talk all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing media malpractise. ok let's go back to david david an important issue that we haven't discussed are on how do the media manage. the weeks before the election in favor of the biden campaign and of the democrats on the side do you. well for the democrats that are but that's a topic for another program there were 50. now national intelligence officials that came out in politico and debunked they said this is just. beastly reminiscent of russia meddling in the in the in politics in the united states number one where all 50 of them given access to this information i doubt it because none of them quoted it but what the interesting thing is that when we come to today over the last few days when the when it was revealed that in fact hunter is under investigation for tax issues and maybe others where do these 50 intelligence officials stand right now are they just liars i mean i can't speak to the 50 individuals because i don't know about that but going back to something earlier it's not just i would say i don't what do you think i mean you can agree with me or just a great thing you can to me but i mean so i you know the media people they're not too bright and you know and they're paid so much money to do whatever they're told and their careers are on the line i get that ok the democrats will do anything for power ok but now i'm talking about people that say they have a commitment to the national security of the united states that have probably a 1000 years collectively in careers here and they came out and said i find that terribly dangerous you can agree and disagree with me but i think that's an important point no 100 percent but i say without commenting on that all you need to do to understand that is to go look at the michael flynn judicial saga. doctoring documents in order to get the pfizer wants that they want against their political adversaries to pursue their political adversaries while you know everything else they slip under the rug so it's easy to understand how and why it can happen once you fully appreciate as i do now having documented the michael flynn saga how weaponized and how corrupt the invent the prosecutorial system is itself and for people don't appreciate this the f.b.i. you have the f.b.i. attorney in michael flynn. altering the documents to facilitate obtaining a pfizer warrant against them against the current page and now you can ask how the same agents of justice can potentially be so partisan and so politicized themselves that they will weaponize their own prosecutorial process or weaponized not investigating it explains itself easily without knowing exactly what those 50 individuals said yeah but you don't think joe did in danger and didn't see that one of the things i've noticed since the 2016 election all the way to the present here is that both parties have let the neo cons in ok and if it infiltrated both parties and so ok for to take a joe across the line these 50 individuals made a judgement call for the cost for the cop their cause ok not the cause of democracy here but that did make that event itself opens the door to well what happens when another president or another official doesn't follow the line then you're going to have to 50 wise people again and politicos saying i'm safe and then everyone will regret it one day oh much money here 3 election cycles or 0 people are against wars but it doesn't seem to matter because of those 50 people and people of their elk go ahead joe well peter teligent agencies around the world engage in deception. not just a polite word for lying as you've been calling it the problem is journalists are supposed to be doing the opposite it's when they act as a conduit as a laundering of intelligence information because some people are skeptical of what intelligence agencies say but less so what the new york times says so if the times is reporting on a 5th unnamed intelligence official saying this that or the other and this is another bipartisan think the republican and democratic media have built except these kinds of leaks from official leaks from intelligence sources and they believe it they don't challenge it they don't have skeptics. why because the publishers of these major media have the same class and elite interests as intelligent people are pushing and therefore they like to create so-called enemies or exaggerate threats abroad and cover up us aggression around the world and this is willingly done by sycophantic journalists who are careerists who are going to go along and not rock that boat if they want to get ahead so we've got a real problem jerk i expect intelligence agencies to lie i expect journalists to challenge and debunk those lies but they don't they are just becoming an appendage of intelligence age that's very dangerous situation to have an journalism is over when that happens you know it joe even since you brought up the illegal coup the overthrow of a democratically elected president in ukraine i've been saying ever since this ridiculous russia gate hoax was invented is that the playbook that the that was played out in ukraine is being played out in the united states right now and you know up until you know under actually is under investigation it was working it really was working i mean if you look at public opinion you know and you know i go across the media as a spectrum here lot of people still believe in all this and even after the most report after everything fell apart everything every single thing fell apart and they still believe that the new york times is running it i think as well the 13th of this month or another story about how russia hat is hacking american infrastructure here they can't let it go steve let me. go ahead steve you know steve we have to worry about the implication of the intelligence community here because they have their own agenda too like i said maybe that you know they threw their hat in but with joe here maybe no great love for enthusiasm here but it was all because of trump but we are politics is not always going to be about triumph or good or were. worse ok but again this precedent has been set and no one is being held accountable go ahead economy and brain and the rest of them they could not have pared down obama and i want to stress what i believe is the importance of what bama pulling the strings for the leading up to come taking over the 4 years during trump presidency and the fact that he arranged for everybody to drop out of that democratic primary race and get at them by take them on and he's picking the agenda and it's going around by the way bing is talking about how basically freedom of the press and conservative media is the number one threat to democracy so let's see where that leads them to calling the shots but could not have happened without the partnership if we had a real enemy as we've been mad you know all these years a media that you're going to looking and. questioning and doing but not by this never happened we would have known the truth people read about how to count but not like you said the other guy on there is no media there's no bumper zone and we're in trouble we're going this country and i did a really good night against it and peter. i mean talking about running covered you have i think it was n.b.c. having come you know per run cover for epstein for years when they knew the story it's beyond it's actually beyond not reporting on a story that you have or killing the story it's actually contradicting what is a known fact internally like they did with this hunter biden thing it's not just that they censor the links they also ran stories simultaneously saying it's russia this information when they knew internally that it wasn't and so you know and even as recently as i think it was yesterday n.b.c. running a header saying you know confirming hunter is under criminal probe and then the next line of me repeats that donald trump and his allies repeated baseless claims about hunter corruption during the election they still try to spin it in a way that they know that the people who they have either successfully fooled or who don't want. you know better we're going to just digest and feel good about having read it you know joe let's go to the next step now because there is an investigation and. i'm sure. i don't want to speculate about and i'm seeing that no one really knows what they're been looking at me looking at for a while here but they may be would be president if he's inaugurated next month he's going to be very vulnerable and who's who's going to who's going to be threatening him the intelligence community ok all over again ok and you know considering the frailty of the man and other issues is that he has here i wouldn't be surprised that in spring you know they say you know joe we got a real problem here ok we've got a real problem the same thing of the january conversation they call me had with obama and and the way i look at acknowledge heris will do anything for anybody ok so i meet it the the nexus of all this is who's doing me investigating now i guess you could get an attorney general that will be pliant but then again you know we see this constant destruction of institutions here and on top of that there are people that want to put trump in jail ok ask your he needs the presidency this is all happening in a short amount of time people revive george w. bush people written by old richard nixon but we have actually dition then we have to move on ok this everything is changing now it's because of the intelligence community and their capture of the media and i'm not consensually both parties. yeah well they're also they're meddling in domestic affairs which is really the big issue here i'm not sure i agree that they will cause problems for biden because i think biden is going to let go along with what the intelligence agencies want and i think that's why he was the safe man for them i do think that they were. well practiced payback for russia gate i think this is one of the reasons trump decided not to concede because because the democrats tried to undermine. the election of trump and to try to undermine his presidency they tried to deal to git a might and this is what i think republicans will now try to do to biden as payback and hunted by and they may very well be with especially if the republicans control the senate or they will have continued to control the senate they will have investigations there and i think that they will try to make a mess out of that it's just not a special prosecutor like i said before by maybe face what happened to fire the 2nd process. what do you guys think about it we have one minute left here steve should there be a press a special prosecutor i absolutely you know made up of biden i had a top of position but if i'm going to fire anybody in the media where where are you a part of me bat an eye on telling you they will hardly bat an eye and i want to make different prediction i actually think if there's going to be calls for peter and or removal and i think there will be i think is going to come from the left i think when this cat is over the by the left is going to say it's too big to put back in there's only one solution for this it's either step down or we remove you and it's going to be president come on her wrists within a year well i mean i did i said to aggrievement david i mean she was the chosen one she just the promise is that nobody liked her ok she was anointed but nobody liked her 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