Millions of unexploded bombs still in danger lives in this Small Agricultural country. Jordyn wieber. Even today kids in los full victims of bombs dropped decades ago is the u. S. Making amends for the tragedy in laos. Built to the people need in that little land of mines. A little unwelcome across roll things are considered media claim, joe biden, to be president elect, someone thats not how it works. Fine will go to well, hes made that determination and we arent there yet. Was the election free and fair . And what is the possibility . Half the country will claim the election was stolen to discuss the election and more, im joined by my guest, jen kearns in oklahoma city. She is a g. O. P. Strategist and host of all american radio, with Jennifer Kearns and in san diego. We have laura fink, she is a democratic strategist, as well as founder and c. E. O. Of rebel communications. Right, cross up rules in effect. That means you can jump in anytime you want. And i always appreciate it. Ok, lets go to lauren san diego. I have presented my introspection the best that probably the most basic question that needs to be answered at this point. Do you think it was a free and Fair Election . Go ahead laura. Well, as of right now, we dont have any evidence of any sort of fraud. We have the widest participation in the history of the country. I think it was as free as humanly possible. And i think what it did was show us that we need to make ballots and balloting more, more accessible and not last in future elections. So i think with all of the votes cast, it was a triumph for the American People because they participated. And i mean on, on both sides on those that voted for track record turnout, Record Number of the things i was not noted for biden, obviously he had a significant edge, but also record turnout. Record number of thats ok. Been tending to the number of lawsuits being filed and it could cover up to 10. So i mean, this is all a fiction. This is all made up. I mean, people have made videos. People have made claims peoples statements in front of law enforcement, which could be, you know, either a misdemeanor or felony assault. I mean there is, i guess the used to help raise the, i mean theres a little bit of smoke here. Is there some fire him . Oh, theyre absolutely is a fire and you know, it has to work its way through the courts and look, i mean, were an instant Gratification Society and i think thats fine. See joe biden, supporters who are going out into the streets and thats racist networks. I declare and major in there, but there are some very serious lanes. You compare this to the bush versus gore case in 2000, that was not educated into the december 12th of 2000. I mean think of how far right we are from that day. And that case was over one shouty and less than 500 votes here. And that is a stark contrast to what ive been working. My sources where the Trump Legal Team is you reality steen even have at least they say 338 sounds and ballots, and selling it a lot on their app question that may have been counted after the 8 pm lawful deadline on election night. So that may not. I personally have written an investigative story on nearly 4000 people in las vegas who are on the Experian Credit Bureau dead list and havent moved out of the state now that it will, we bounce that against voter rolls of you who voted nearly 4000 people in this state and out of arch about it and thats just my report. There are a poor he to campaign hundreds of people who. Ringback come forward and at this moment peter, there are hundreds of people who signed affidavits, their name and their life on the line at come forward and say there was inappropriate loading, potential fraud, idols of a senate, you know las vegas where my own parents used to lay did said they serve people where they took the ballot to the good ballot box and asked the other if they could see their grandmother had voted because their grandmother rest and its a silly he says that she vows election and sure enough the grandmother and said, there is i believe there are some fire that we have to let that were processed. And heres what i think the Mainstream Media has and they set provides a person for a huge disappointment. If this test translate, because their 1st trial has stolen the election from what will have been 10 and lora, i think thats the problem that we all face, that either side, you know, whoever wins that theres going to be charged if the election being stolen and thats really that it can very dangerous. Ok, well or one of the things i dont understand. I think its counterintuitive. Why doesnt joe biden . And his campaign now mount force me and say, yes, its in a state all of these claims and listen to and talk to all of these people because then you come out and are saying for transparency sake, ok, what light is of the the Campaign Come on her forcefully that way because they have the most to gain. I would go ahead more. Well, i think they have the math on their side and so i dont think you need to follow up as, as, as my lawyer friends would sank. You got 25. 00 in a can, you can file a lawsuit. And so, so far all of the things that janice, talking about there has not been evidence forward and submitted to the court. You have to have evidence for your lawsuit to move forward, and we stopped out of the lawsuits that have been filed. Officially, ill show you. I did 3. Were rejected, rejected as having no evidence. The one that the trump campaign, when she said that there are observers which were present, were a good move, a little bit closer to the people, counting the ballots, so not a result of victory and not, not, not impacting the outcome. So right now, so far its all smoke and mirrors while were on the smoke metaphor by the truck campaign. And then the goal is your fault. Its not to win in court because i cant make any lawyer worth their salt. Theyre just next case here, where they would have printed presenting all of this instead, actual evidence, thats a legend to exist. It really is a p. R. War, casting it legitimacy on b. Election. Really riling up the base, giving them these pieces of just information so that they can move forward and feel that even though their candidate lost the election was stolen from them. Always knowing that under oath. But under multimillion that undermines democracy, but that is the goal because i havent seen these receipts. I havent seen this evidence and the courts havent seen them because these cases are not proceeding. They are getting so far rejected out of hand. Yes. But more and gen their no one has been elected, no one has won and no one has lost gen. I find it unconscionable and irresponsible. And thats the media. The media doesnt care whos president , and this is this, you know, just lighting the color when b. , when yes, thats true. When the electors sit down of the Electro College and they vote that we have here, we have a Transition Team that is quite every election. If there are no, not when its fraught, not when its fraught. Ok. This is a fraud election and i find it very. Yeah. I see a problem. What i didnt know because i didnt hear because we dont have the evidence of a winner or loser. You get ok, we have the advantage of a winner. We dont have evidence of this fraud. We have no evidence being put forward. We have no witnesses talking to cameras. We have no, we have. We have just you feel like a should have known or louisiana and doesnt have the right. Doesnt have any legal right to call an election. Ok jenny, how do you see the meet because of this . Just gaslighting people there making the situation worse. Well, you know this laura says, you know, if you have the math, then you dont need to investigate that brought this is, i think thats not what it was. I said you had to have evidence. I did not say i said we had to match dont conflate. Those are 2 separate things. And you know, i had it. If you have the math to follow up on the set. No, i didnt buy it. You know, its not shout out here. This exact problem, if the democrats did in fact stuff, the ballot box as they appear to do, you are saying that you know it out yet Rudy Giuliani. There were not. I had an early night out here in the dark and im filled up. Yes. Im sorry. I was really doing under there and the r. C. C. And there were actually a 169000 ballots. They can never have a happy hour. Abbie seems for it. So what that will challenge the age where everyone has a cell phone. If they didnt keep machine or has the record here, well be able to tell i piecing together the public. We saw this ballot coming in, all right, thats where it went. And that will start being that case will start being made in court today. So they didnt argue that you cant drag race here. And for more of that im just going to try to still be here. But obviously were making up lies not employ a clock and Rudy Giulianis or so on. A witness oconnells, your guy, i dont hang on, i dont like it when someone calls someone a liar on this program. Ok . We have, we have was we have procedures and people are making claims. Thats why we have the laws and thats why we have the procedures. I say nothing wrong in investigating them. Youre not ration day is down the road we have time. And thats why we have these procedures. Because in my place to have evidence, i mean im going to end this here. Ok. I think most think that, you know, most people want to know who won and we have this mechanism to get there. And i think thats very reasonable wage were prochoice. Why cant you, laura . Why cant you just say, yeah, we just let it go, let it go to the courts because well, it will be noticed. You believe you have the map on your side, you have the theory of the future. It will go to the courts, it will go to the courts and it will proceed in all of this alleged cell phone videos and Rudy Giuliani is the star witness may come forward. And so far the courts have rejected 2 out of 3 cases. I was objecting to it moving forward. Im not objecting to President Trump exhausting his legal remedies. But what i am saying is that, that when you, when you allege sayings that are, that are truly have no basis in evidence, you dont put forward the evidence along with your names in the data. Well, youre right, i have an agenda, i have it, let me finish. I havent seen the evidence because you havent shown any. Its simply just a lot of talk going around in talk with no evidence. And so if you had every sunday night that come forward to our country and you know, 100 alternators or had laura and i, i just, i just want to say if you had the evidence, you would put it forward and wed be talking about that evidence and we talked about, youd be talking about the litany of it are just are we have not have our doubt i but im not going to go on your word when i why. If there were hundreds of thousands of ballots of voter fraud, you should have some evidence of that. And instead what were hearing from Campaign Officials saying as well, we need to look a little harder. So maybe find this evidence. I mean how hard that is. Because as i watched it on fire, its the killer gouging that the courts are exact. But in the meantime, our democracy is being undermined. When we do see that by the math, joe biden has won by the, by, have it democrats, likely not, is how i played. So when i left, they dont know if he used, or i did, cheri added over the weekend, they owe it to a judge, and the American People to share in the court of law, x. Why dont you wait here in about an hour starting a american corpses and let ice skater example i publish up on my rights at the voter file in las vegas and not a clark county and watch their county in reno. Want to get that experience credit list. There were nearly 4000 people base and im just one person you just cited you that the work on that station is right. But overall i found it to them that how many other cases are there, we dont know, but will see that if you take a course of action, peter slight, let the Electoral College doesnt even reenter this and so the center for ts their duty. I predict peter and i want to jump ahead your prediction. You will see the cases arent going by. Great. You will see the light bulb start to gather in the cul de sacs, holds us back, and every Electoral College elect or an average secretary of state who dares to not certify the state or job like that, slips county. And believe me, the crowds are out. D. N. C. Around and having fun on saturday, just like those who turned my life in a heartbeat as thats how the Democrat Party operates. Not going to comment in our great leader, but you have to say they have a lot of practice during the summer here. Ok, im going to jump in here. Were going to go to a short break and i think thats all right. Well continue our discussion on the election as they are. The world is driven by a dream about one person. The day theres things we dare to ask tactics that can be used to get innocent people to confess, to crimes. They didnt commit. I dont even think people in the us really get that the police are allowed to lie to the person who falsely confessed, actually came to believe the lie that they were told about their own behavior. Once a false confession is taken, the case is closed and nobody really can tell the difference between a good confession and one that is a welcoming to cross not where all things are considered. Im remind you were discussing the election. Ok, lets go back to laura. Laura, what i think for a lot of trump voters, if they that they look how, particularly the media and obviously the democrats treated trump and his administration. Theres a whole lot of lack of faith here. Ok. We went through this russia gate hoax. We went through this impeachment hoax and then theres, theres, i just, im giving a perception. Ok, im giving a perception. Ok. And so when it comes down to this, when, when, when people are presented and we need evidence for, im going to go and jen, hopefully, and her friends can generate and, but you know, when ballots come out of nowhere or housings of ballots, they have the president being voted for and i think, i mean if you listen discover if thats true. But cant you at least concede that you have a lot of trump, voters seeing how their guy was treated for 4 years and they look at this . Is that something is something thats akin to a 2nd to impeachment . I mean, can you at least give credence how they may feel . I can concede that no one likes to lose an election and, and i can conceive that, but it doesnt equal. And you didnt see Hillary Clinton supporters as legin, widespread voter fraud, big 73, it was authentic, and it was not right that they came out. And so lets listen. I am not going to litigate every trump, you know, scans all, that he fomented that were based on his own actions. So, but what i will say is that, you know, in america we cast power from one party to the other. Weve done it time. And again, and its a, were a stone of our democracy, which means that when youre just appointed an election doesnt mean you have a right to change the results because youre upset that your guy ritchies you and thats, and that is one of the most americans that we have that exists in our country. I mean, its a fundamental american principle show. And so what i, what i would say is that we have to accept the results of this election and just say, i mean, one of the most serious things to me if there is this widespread voter fraud, is how the democrats didnt manage to take the senate time and again, the republican senators were reelected, and Mitch Mcconnell can see its a whole the range of the senators that some real service you can go to try to talk about it. That id only exists in places where there is a narrow election count. And somehow trump lost, should you know, this is a magic, this is a magic. Are not the republicans are sprinkling their credence to doubt because, you know, all of the polls were, you know, Lindsey Graham was on his last leg eccentrics, cedric, and then then actually there was no blue wave at all. The republicans actually did really well considering everything. Its just the for the presidency and thats what a lot of people are and are curious about generally i dont understand it, but i think they look at how do you not acknowledge snow, but he just sat in the weeds, but hes there. Thats what makes up a lot of people very curious there. I mean, if all of these polls are often the, the republicans actually get really fight well and they say, well, then there was no doubt that there was no down take effect. I mean, thats kind of odd that, so all i want is evidence to present to me, you know, were they had 3 years of russia . Again, i just said, whats the evidence, they never came up with any evidence. And so, i mean, you demand evidence of this net and right now youre not demanding evidence now and then your seat, then theres a system and there are laws and jen, and, and people like are given the opportunity to go and peter, your colleagues are showing no i go by the law. I emotion. Ok. Yeah, that thats a great point. Like i dont respect the results of the election if the election was too late. Duly process it here saying it is not about her feelings. Is actually slightly better for my Business Model to not have tried in office for the next 4 years. And i know its just speaking as a political consultant celeb. This is not hers. This is about the american says to ensure their checks and balances work really just pointing out overnight that the boxer joe frazier, you know who some years passed, was actually seen on the go to rolls and silly ad boated as was will smiths grandmother, i mean these are just random examples and i just have to say are now they are and so is not really giuliani or s. It isnt legal or any of these folks are showing as have been noted. There are hundreds of thousands more and Rudy Giuliani says there are 350000. You know that when you have a leave, Rudy Giuliani, i have a bridge in new jersey with Chris Christie governing. Get to sell you. Chris christie had nothing to do with Rudy Giuliani. That phrase, not at present Friends Camp