Journalist and cohost of the convo couch and in budapest we cross to george samueli he is an author and a you tuber app that apple are across not rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it ok lets get started is going to our guest in las vegas here were you know everybodys talking about the legitimacy of this counting of the ballots here and i think a lot of as and im looking at our panel here we all kind of expected this to happen this is an intentional disaster but i dont see any really good way out because there isnt a way for any kind of compromise and and i think its going to be a very alienating experience id like to point out to our viewers here that as of now donald trump got 2000000 more votes than Hillary Clinton did in 2016 the long term is not a fluke hes not an aberration and the people that like him are neither either so whats your assessment as we are in this very. Situation yeah i mean i just i i feel like america is really looking like a disaster to the rest of the world and you can tell me by being an outsider the way the Mainstream Media big tack and the the corporatocracy completely aligned in order to coddle joe biden and to really just just hate on donald trump to literally in my opinion break this election in his face in joe bidens favor selecting somebody like joe biden who was in 5th place during the primary selecting somebody like come on harris who was one of the people who literally had to leave the primary because she was so unpopular in california in her very own state so now bringing them this far up and then i was watching the results come in the day it was like 2 in the morning and all the sudden we see 100000 ballots directly go to joe biden. Was constant where donald trump was leading with i have to margin similar things happened in michigan and the a. P. Refused to call so many states where donald trump was favored florida being one of them in particular where he was 98 percent reporting they refused to call it texas the same thing you cant tell me that thats not media manipulation and then you cant tell me that all the sudden 100000 ballots are going to go directly to joe biden and not a single one is going to go to donald trump we have to be honest here and i consider myself a leftist on the spectrum i voted for Bernie Sanders in the primary and im over here getting called a right winger for simply questioning the process of this election so what im saying here is something that has been a Long Time Coming in this country where we are seeing the polarized 2 party system and people just going at each other with no substance people are hurting in this country economically and this hold up. Awful has been nothing but political fare for the 2 party system that has failed the American People its not put its political theater but its not very funny because theres going to be consequences why dont you if you have a legal mind here tell us if it. Was number of words you can because its complicated or is it is this the way these states in the boat are but is it within legal bounds right now because we know that being the trump in going to trump you campaign is pursuing lawsuits here where are they going to go. Well 1st the what we just heard just now was one of the most perfect distillation from one of our leftists like that ive ever heard im going to chapter one of my forehead in the microchip that was perfection. Lady and gentleman we have seen this election stolen fair and square if you can believe this and were people asked me are you suggesting that joe biden would be the next president say no and become a hares he will serve less than William Henry harrison who served for 31. 00 days. To enter your question legally elections are run by this date they have their rules state rights get back stage right then the battle to get back its up to them when you have a Democratic State and you have democratically elected judges when you have those who say well this might be irregular but is this a fundamental constitutional wrong not necessarily skulled this Supreme Court from last time is saying dont you even think about it nino scalia was still feeling the ravages of bush against gore so what youre seeing right now is a group of people who are going to be saying say what you want to state this is up to you let me say one thing quickly if i told you that i was going to rig an election by stopping the count i think about this is that you same time out in a boxing match theres no such thing as tight time out how we doing need a 100000 more say got it anybody who has the 80 scintilla of organized crime i have friends of mine allegedly of involved in Certain Organization who applaud the hubris and the audacity so theres your question of i rather have to give it a little im not disputing the fact that the people are going to pull it off but george there are consequences for this ok half the country is being disenfranchised according to what weve heard already to this program that doesnt bode well for the future george because how many people are going to say not my president is i could is that a new trend in american politics if it is a trend its not sustainable george well thats exactly right i mean look at this election the democrats did extremely poorly they lost seats in the house they failed to capture the senate but lo and behold they wind up. Residence in with the weakest candidate for president in recent history theres never been anyone is as weak as joe biden we remember the night of the election trump was winning comfortably he had taken florida he was well ahead in all of the key industrial midwest the state suddenly the vote count stopped then when it resumes lo and behold a spear said they just discovered back as the votes and clearly the whats happening in these states these 3 states michigan pennsylvania wisconsin is something that is atypical so if you find that in detroit or in milwaukee there is suddenly an amazing having the still voting which we dont see in dallas or houston or cleveland or any other major city it then that is inherently suspicious. And when you discover 138000 votes every single one of them provide one that is suspicious so for us if the courts and i think lionel is right i think the courts will be reluctant to get involved with already seen in the case of pennsylvania who the Roberts Court didnt want to get involved and so its johnson that the titian will go against trump then Trump Supporters will say this election was stolen from us stolen parents where just as much as the presidency of donald trump was stolen from him because he had to spend all his time fighting off the ridiculous russia gay folks fighting off an ever dickless impeachment and what happens then when people when the election is stolen they tend to get violent this guy is happening and that of every other country and its having a paper im calling him to be a model thats whats happening here. Its go back to las vegas one of the things that the media has been conditioning the public for for years is that donald trump is an aberration hes a fluke a freak of nature of the freak of political nature here but the election result says something completely different that this is a horse of political nature here and actually things that good night for the g. O. P. Where was the blue wave that we were told about where were the double digit wins we were told about look at look at the number of times that there was 5 senate. Seats that were approved grabs republicans handily rewarm their their seats here i mean if were being gassed lets here and its going to have consequences because people going to say no the g. O. P. Actually is expanding and it is becoming much more diverse and juxtapose it to were just going to take it because we cant go ahead yeah i mean you know donald trump came more quotes from the latino population in the last 2 republican candidates this is that a fluke this is a fact that the Democratic Party is so weak theyre looked at hypocrites i mean im a person of latino heritage and have my family members voted for donald trump the other half over for joe biden were not a monolith and i think a lot of people in the Democratic Party with this the same way they did this to the black population have been condescending and expecting people to vote a certain way without giving them any reason to vote for that the immigration issue wasnt really a strong point of joe biden in 2007 he wanted to build a fence during i mean really begun why and he also was part of the administration that had the department they build the cages that donald trump is now supposedly exploiting so what i am saying even from the perspective of a latino this is the democrats look like hypocrites and they just did not do enough to actually offer policies and a lot of these people like we said. At our bertie and he expanded his base i mean i was in Beverly Hills covering these rallies that were for donald trump and i have never seen more people of color go to donald trump i saw a lot of black americans and mexicans were trapped it was insane to me but i kept saying donald trump is going to increase his base with a lot of minorities and that is something that the Democratic Party nor the Mainstream Media want to talk about because it defeats our narrative that donald trump is of course this texas racist homophobic president but thats all they pin on him but they completely have failed to actually provide any solutions and it shows in the fact that the spend it and you know congress in general have gone red and the polls against the polls that the Mainstream Media and all of these pundits wanted people to trust were completely off and who could have predicted that its not like we were here 4 years ago when it was Hillary Clinton versus trump and a few people were screaming saying he can win he can win well if the same thing the Democratic Party keeps doing the same thing and expecting different results and at risk of a nation of your vanity. Jump in line almost going to break these things what you just heard is the most frightening thing to the left right paradigm i think ill bet you we could sit down in the green and forge a more thing to me agree with thus destroying this left right but more important imagine this. Judge lavelle you are being asked right now to overturn an election judge labelle i want to show you this year this is the writing this is how much money was lost these are the People Police individuals who are hurt and killed and maimed do you want to sign your name to an order that would reverse the the supposed candidacy or of the win of joe biden do you want your name for everyone to be associated with this many have begun to be days like that all that never got to go to a short break and after that short break well continue our discussion on the Election Results state. Of the. The u. S. Has a history of complicated and heated president ial elections whats different this time is that the biggest political events of the last 4 years is happening amid the coronavirus been damaged and the rest of them to the level of civil unrest sparked by the death of george floyd and the lives of the radical groups on both sides of the political spectrum. Right now with breaking the city ordinance. Say. These groups attract barely a week members who have taken to the streets may control tasks look like full scale what you see here was only a taste of whats about to happen biz demonstrators are sometimes heavily armed and they are not afraid of violence or law enforcement. If you want a war let it begin with us. Were going to meet these groups and their leaders to find out how far theyre ready to go to fight for what they believe this did for this country. Welcome back to crossfire all things are considered im peter about to remind you were discussing the election fiasco. Ok when i was going back to the island i promise you any judge who would you reversed would end the presidency donald trump you want to see injured me seeing rioting the likes of which let me just tell you one quick story on 11th avenue here in new york where to all the the big Car Dealerships are banned me and im reading this yesterday we noticed all of the cars were gone from the sure will. Just over night it was the weirdest its like they know me we see this we are we we believe that we live in this world of law and order and we have seen something and its so frightening so in addition to the aforementioned reason i gave no judge isnt a sign his or her need to do anything and would be directly responsible for initiating and letting infused in this is our home here george i mean if i want to go back to not my president pain because i think thats where thats the territory that were moving into here you know considering the left you know it attacked trump and anyone that supported him agreeing to the electoral outcome here as we speak right now it seems thats being forced here why why should anyone that voted republican or heard donald trump say to joe biden youre my president give me one good reason no and there isnt any reason biden didnt even really go through the of a primary contest in the way. President ial candidates do he did terribly in the primaries and lost New Hampshire iowa nevada and then suddenly obama intervened told the Democratic Party right everybody behind biden and beautifully they all vote by then and only hope. In within 24 out by the nominee of the pot it so you know this is somebody and then he added to that the nonsense of selecting as his running mate a person so unpopular within her own politics that she had to drop out before the 1st primary so this is the ticket that americans are not supposed to accept as the legitimate. Role as the bolt is of trump and the you know people still remember what obama tried to do. Right at the beginning of the trumpet ministration not just with the spying but with a 2nd attempt to destroy it by bringing out the logan act and so on so yes of course theres the people who got trump as their leader will not accept it and whats more prompt itself will not accept the trump is they have defacto leader of the Republican Party if the presidency is away from him by a century of electoral theft he will be the leader of the opposition he will be holding rallies all over the country saying i am the real president and then you have to wonder what will the bite ministration try to do will it try to arrest them will they try to that is legal cases against them well the question. Is not because it runs the euro its very interesting what george just said because you have biden harris they were selected by the political elite the Democratic Party the d. N. C. And there thats when theres a slate of names that we have to genuflect to ok because donald trump if you go back to 2016 he knocked up every single republican contender the best of the brightest and of the Republican Party he won he won his primary and a lot of people forget that he was he had his own republican primary in this in this cycle here he did got more support than Ronald Reagan did know the republican has done as well as an incumbent in the in their primary here so i mean george brings up a very interesting point and you know and i look at these people behind the shenanigans he never get anything right they always screw things up and i think theres a screw this one up to white because when george just said because trump is he may be removed from power but hes still going to be a very powerful person in an interesting way maybe even more powerful because he probably wont be surrounding themselves with a lot of the 80. That he has the last 4 years your thoughts your yeah were just going to see the effects of the donald Trump Presidency resonated in the you know in his supporters who you know to a lot of people on the left they have completely dismissed them and i understand the racial elements and i understand all the things that have been happening however there was of not a lot of substance when the left when after donald trump they didnt go after him on the things they should have gone after him his Foreign Policy they could have gone after him instead they went on this rush again narrative on impeachment all this does all of this and justice is all this does when when youre you know pinning this election against him when youre pushing him out all this does it in force his base it grows his base it polarizes this country more and his base is basically just going to run with it and i like i believe were going to see another type of donald trump thats more effective in 4 years of joe biden takes us presidency its going to be a lot more difficult for a lot of people to come to terms with this but were going to see the right be empowered by this because they were wrong and like i said a lot of people are not going to admit that theyre going to think that you know just because they hate donald trump so much that ok the censorship of the mass surveillance tape they okayed the whats going on here with the election so theyre theyre completely in denial and you know you can build a fire him all you want and you know i am not a fan of donald trump myself but the reality is this isnt about donald trump or joe biden this is about the truth and we have to have a commitment to the truth and i dont see a commitment to veracity in the Mainstream Media i dont see any a someones of that in our current government so i honestly think were going to see more uprisings and civil unrest and the you know the status quo politicians try to take advantage of that to pursue their own political narratives yeah i know its this is not. It would be like ok well that was just a you know there was a tussle about that of oh count it its all resolved right now if thats not how people going to be after this year and as we go over the next few months if indeed joe biden is called the winner here. The country is going to hold further and further apart because i dont think you can do to say well lets let the bygones be bygones i dont see that