Times you were going on the road 2 days to go before an election in a country which has been militarily involved in 1008 percent of all countries on earth having invaded 84 of the uns 193 countries coming up in the show will trump lose in tuesdays president ial election thanks to coded killing hundreds of thousands of u. S. Citizens go to the white house to speak to one of the only 2 men in the u. S. President apparently listens to the pandemic white house going to virus possible survives a professor atlas he tells us why he thinks lockdowns testing and mosques hold up all of them all coming up in todays going on the ground 1st with just days ahead of the u. S. President ial election which will have a Global Impact as a global coronavirus pandemic continues to take lives not least in the United States itself lets go straight to the white house and speak to one of President Trumps closest coronavirus advisors professor scott thank you so much going for coming on you interpret the data. How bad is coded in the usa im sure you know that the democrat leaning Mainstream Media says its corona virus that could spell the end of the trump presidency. Ok well thanks for having me well i mean it is a its a its a deadly pandemic theres no under stating that weve had 230000 lies roughly lost and from the from the virus and certainly many many loss from the policy of shutdowns so its tragic theres no question about that but if you want to know whats happening right now i think theres a gross distortion that his surrogates typical of the reporting on this and that is that theres this frenzy of focusing on a number of cases when we see a lot of reasons to be sort of you know cautiously optimistic here rather than fearful and those reasons are very important for people understand 1st of all the cases number the case number is not the most important matter whats important to understand is that a vast majority of people that are getting these cases are lower risk healthier people were doing a better job of protecting the elderly and its you know the high risk people the diseases that really really only to the elderly and high risk people and what i mean by that is not that 0 people die but the risks to younger people is extremely low for any serious illness this is the data you know i mean 99. 997 percent of people do fine at r. s 018 for instance and so we we have we have a lot of good things happening here 1st of all we see the case the taliban rate is much not just much lower than what we thought it was in the beginning but it is decreasing for every age thats sile and i look at the data from that thats sile of age and even for people 80. 5 and older 7584652741 extension 1 the fatality rates are decreasing so even if when they get sick they have a last chance of dying when we have a patient hospitalized mortality rate of in the hospital is half of what it was at the peak the length of stay in hospital is one 3rd of what it was at the peak you know we have. No real problem although occasionally theres an isolated hospital thats overcrowded but were doing everything the administration is. Really you know up for repair or ems ship mobilize resources beds personnel to prevent hospital overcrowding we havent had a problem like that theres never been a patient by the way in the us that even the battle later that was not able to be put on im not a single patient and so we see a lot of cases we do not see in an explosion of thats people are dying theres no understating that were doing more and more to protect the elderly and the people who might die and you know im personally involved in that sort of thing and making sure that we dont just write policies but we actually have implementation of action so what the administrations been doing is sending a prioritization but massive amount of personal protective equipment to Senior Care Centers to Senior Centers instant you know 15 minutes asking to prevent inflow of cases from nursing home staff thats where the cases come from massive task potentials you know testing going to Senior Centers for seniors frequent socially ok and things like that so lots of drugs are being developed we expect any day in emergencies authorization for a drug well see you know theres a lot of progress on that and i understand from that than the that may be why your president looks a little domestic on the campaign trail has he seen the university of washington study that says. There will be 500000 dead by february kind of contradicting the new york your lack of correlation between cases and. The i hate to mean model is really sort of its absurd to start looking at that model at this point some of the things in that model. Ill give you an example if you look at the academic literature by epidemiologists who have looked at that model. For even 24 hours later on a state by state prediction. For 24 hours in advance they were outside of their 94. 00 or 5 percent confidence interval more than 70 percent of the time i mean the model is its absurd to think that model and predict for instance how many people are going to die with and without masks where i mean this kind of thing is at this point in time anybody whos really focusing on models is has learned nothing from the past and by the way we have a massive amount of data i dont understand the 6 ation that some people still pay out on these you know on these models that are sensationalizing things we have the data we know whos it risks we know whos not we understand how to social distance and protect people with hygiene when youre close to somebody its reasonable to wear a mask if theyre i respect secular or if you are theres all kinds of things we do we have robert on progress on things and yet people are talking about modeling i just am so obviously you advised trump not to do except that that particular model do you do support the wearing of mosques now because previously and this relates to information during the pandemic i understand twitter deleted a tweet of you was about mosques so its really good question but yes i wasnt and i never heard theres been ciro change in my belief or the president s belief about mast 0 what was the lead. Well let me state the policy that i advised and that he has stated dozens and dozens of times where ive asked when you cannot socially distance particularly when you are high risk or near a high risk person thats thats what thats a reasonable policy it is unreadable it is irrational and that i will tell you what was the lead on twitter it is irrational to think that you should wear a mask when youre in the middle of a desert when youre in your car driving all alone when youre running outside and are all all that is not rational you dont even have to be a scientist to understand that that is absurd and that is a result of the fear instilled by people who just insist on sort of these kinds of os its not really analyzing that they had on the starts and what was deleted on twitter was the following i was tweeting that the mask mandates generalize population use mass do not work from the Empirical Data point number one and i listed in l. A. County Miami Dade County state of hawaii state of alabama spain and france the u. K. Everywhere in the word israel all kinds of places where general population massed mandates were used and people were using mass and the cases exploded its through those times frank thats fact actually not arguable that a light number on that was whats in that can i just said i just take it back and let me finish it you broke the astral the 2nd part that was in that suite that was deleted were no comments from me whatsoever simply literal quotes from the w. H. O. Website from the center for evidence based medicine oxford professor anikin from the study of the c. D. C. On its a lot of us were quotes there was not even an opinion expressed the. Yet somehow the facts that are contrary to 8 beliefs are deleted from twitter i think this is a bigger issue than mass is the deletion of that tweet the bigger issue is that sometimes were in a world now it seems that somehow information that is contrary to what people want to have you did you did you complain touchy did you complain to to it because you obviously have a constitution that guarantees rees reach in the affected states as one of their 100 bratt right now that constitution is under threat and i think this is a muslim they say. What did they say to me i cant tell the way twitter works as they deleted the tweet and they froze my account and i said ok theres a way to click on a box and. You know peel appealed and so i appealed the course of box to appeal doesnt allow a wind see you know essay but i appealed and then i waited 6 hours and then i thought ok well my account is frozen while its being appealed so i said fine just i accept that tweet was deleted well obviously if they can if they can i leave it at that and i quit breaking bad box and 12 hours went by before my account was really if they can delete a Senior Adviser in the White House Coronavirus task force then thats obviously quite something tell me how politicized the response to this pandemic is because youve been talking about the working classes of america and the impact of lockdowns and so on do you think that do you think that socalled Mainstream Media understands your concerns about the working classes of america well i think the working class understands the concerns of the working class of america i mean one of the lockdowns have been one of the one of will go down as an attic failure of Public Policy i keep a who refused to accept they were wrong were wrong words used to accept they were on the didnt know the data didnt care and became a frenzy that stopping cold like 980 says at all costs and those costs are massive and whats. Happened here is that the argument is undeniable the lockdowns are killing people but theyre not really impactful lot downs and by lockdowns i dont mean everyone frozen in time in their space suit all alone in a room because thats easy to say oh were not for lock outs but what they are for are testing asymptomatic since signing people into isolation from their work from their family 1st sat for 14 days closing in person schools closing businesses fast lockdown and what we see is that a lot downs really are not impactful the people even like me ok its for me for people that are sort of i have a great job upper class asked relatively affluent people who Political Class media class these people arent impacted because they still have their jobs their children are underfoot its inconvenient but thats not the same thing as what we see in working class and lower class lower socioeconomic class people where theyve lost their jobs suicides are going way out drug abuse is going on the way out you know were creating a generation of the raga children and forcing them to wear masks and be 6 feet apart from their friends or not even to have school in person you know we see in the u. S. People 18 to 2425 percent of them colleges shoots one out of 4 sort of killing himself in the month of june due to the locked up this is a massive tragedy of epic proportion and theres more and more data coming out on this and i wrote about this back i think in april or may way before i came here and i wasnt the villain of the world when i wrote it but when you come up and you stand next to the president i did states in an attempt to help the country in the biggest crisis in the world you must be destroyed by the media in the United States and so its a its a sad statement on america that is a us is theyre all over this but the point is that the Public Health leadership have a thing. They old agree just lee and theyre killing people with their fear inducing shot they are literally killing professors a sufi them all from pres a school atlas after this break. The world is driven by shaped. Thinks. We. Welcome back im still here with professor scott atlas of the White House Coronavirus toss a post where you are clearly excited about possible treatments for cove and of course your president has been talking about controlling drug pricing should he be reelected this while the Big Pharmaceutical Companies are funding joe bidens campaign sensible of President Trump with a few days to go before the election to attack the profits of the Big Pharmaceutical Companies. I think what hes doing is hes attacking. Sort of the the asymmetry in prices then you know people are paying for drugs here in the u. S. But i think you have to look at the policies that hes done and understand where hes coming from because in drug pricing in the u. S. On the 1st time in decades under the Trump Administration the prices came down the Consumer Price and thats our pharmaceuticals came down thats never been done for decades i havent seen it historically beyond saccades ago but thats the 1st time and so thats from increased competition deregulation making prices making drug prices sensitive to the demand of a payer which in this case is the patient and the more you have the patient be the payer by transparency and stuff like that the price come down the what hes trying to do is pressure prices the calm down by saying ok maybe the prices should be as good as they are in the rest of the world so you know well see what happens with the prices in the rest of the world its not necessarily clear well see what happens but i think hes fighting for the consumer of course were talking about plus a moment ago the stimulus checks that americans watching this program will be interested in do you see the democrat opposition in congress again as a health issue when it comes to coronavirus the lack of any stimulus check theyll. Its hard to deny that its political you know the were in the middle of a very very contentious Election Year as Everybody Knows and you know but it is sad i think again like im not a political appointee i have 0 interest in politics in fact i have a distaste for politics which has been heightened during this when you see politicians just hold off on various things that they would normally think are important for for consumers or for individuals and society and they are representing these People Holding off for political reasons its really its disgusting and tragic and i dont even know what say it i mean when when you are looking into the strategy why would a country like south korea a democracy backed by the United States capital seoul bigger than chicago or london why would it only have 460. 00 deaths. Well theres a lot of reasons to explain and i think its very naive for people to make these broad conclusions about why countries differ but 1st of all you know south korea they it all the countries in asia i think theres reason to believe that a lot of Asian Countries have a west impact from sars too because they have a lot more experienced biologically with related viruses and that could be sars go on at the other coronaviruses and we see the data from a singapore taking blood samples from subjects who get sars won 17 years ago and when you look at their study it showed a very robust response to exposure to this virus 17 years later and theres a lot of reasons to suspect that. Protection on an immunological basis from various other viruses but theres all kinds of differences in populations you get on treacherous ground to start comparing country to country and then pointing about something the only way to really do things is by something called access mortality rates rather than deaths for capital because of course thats for capita for instance our determine how you categorize a death in the United States we have a we do not require a positive test for the corona virus to call somebody over death we include desperate from anything associated with the corona virus or coded as a cause of death for colds and then we add that and i dont try and have and theres nothing theres nothing that president john boyle white house toss was could have done to rewrite the rules on death certificates. You know desart tend to get coding in the United States is almost an art rather going to science its up to the doctor but i want to correct you its not my task force not say that i better know what what do you make of your a colleague Dr Anthony Fauci calling you an outlier and he was concerned about you well why would he be sound i dont know why i cant speak for doctors but i can say this im proud to be an outlier. As specially when the in wires are completely wrong so you know im going to pray to be a contrary and because i know im right and that thats a thats a lot more defamatory to billy is bill gates wouldnt what did you feel when he called you a pseudo expert and i should say its gates whos funding all these different vaccine trials. Well i didnt even know about it until someone pointed it out to me because i frankly dont care what somebody like bill gates says i mean i i being british does not confer expertise that i would say point number one and you know point number 2 is i feel very good about not only my own expertise my own cd im a pump im a Health Care Policy person who work in this are 15 years i happen to also have 25 years of medical science experience at the highest levels of academic medicine but you know lets put it this way what i have been advocating has been sadly based on the science ive been saying it since at least march i said it personally in my own home in february ive written about it since march i said nothings wrong and its been fallin aided by now over 11000 epidemiologists and high level you know and medical science people who have signed on to this great parents and declaration which basically aligns with most of what i have said which is protect the high risk people. Prevent hospital overcrowding with resources so that people can get their medical care and open schools and you know and businesses and society and that by the way is a policy and based on the data and i speak to some of the worlds best epidemiologists almost literally every day for the past 78 months ok im not weighing it here but