Bedtime stories to their children well now its almost completely abandoned. By john alleges Armenian Forces of territories outside the main conflict zone something theyre abandoned nice to hear from as there is who are resorting to taking shelter in their basements and doing a whole lot easier many unsearched shelling constantly theyre shelling us now with different weapons. One week ago i shall file and my upstairs neighbors home was completely burned down. The World Health Organizations director countries not to pursue you heard immunity calling the approach dangerous on their own. How do we get. Through a big scene. And true through men surely in fiction a lot of the information thats coming from governments and World Health Organizations and agencies fire. Really confusing for most people we dont really know a lot of old is why was. I. A warm welcome mrs arty international with the latest world news update on the air and now the Russian Foreign minister Sergey Lavrov has given a live interview to Russian Media heads including arties editor in chief Margarita Simonyan he fielded questions on a number of topics including the unit going to care about conflicts turkeys involvement in knots and russias relations with the e. U. Arties taylor brings us the highlights. Well we had a very lengthy income for a comprehensive conversation between foreign minister Sergei Lavrov and editors and chief of numerous Media Organization that was so much to unpack but one topic given considerable attention was what can only be described as a very difficult relationship the russia now has with the European Union law prof notes that of course the 2 have a lot in common they have a lot of natural interests especially economic ones for example the north into gas line project but he said all of this was made difficult but what he described as a condescending attitude and a constant demands put on russia and he said that this was a habit that made it very difficult for business to be as usual that there was new rules. The question is not just where the business as usual is possible but with any business with the European Union is possible a tool the e. U. Behaves arrogantly towards us and looks condescendingly down russia demanding answers from us for all the crimes it imagines we have committed i think we are under no obligation to respond to that. Also added that the root rissa phobic minority within the bloc was making it very difficult trying to undermine the relationship now all of this of course will remember comes against wosm diplomatic ties between the European Union and russia as a result of the alleged poisoning of alex cena found me another thing thats like a lover of their talked about was what he described or what can be described as double standards saying the e. U. Partners often demanded much more from moscow than they did of themselves with this regard he spoke specifically about how when it comes to interference in Foreign Affairs its very much a topic that a subjective but i wouldnt go to. In 2017 during the election in france marine le pens a legitimate politician came to moscow to meet with president putin then French Foreign minister publicly claimed that this was not. Them to foreign interference in the electoral process in france now look at who macro and merkel Holding Meetings with said manatee cannot. No one pays any attention to the fact that this could also be considered as foreign interference in belorussian affairs. All of this was happening Sergey Lavrov laid out what his belief was the end goal of all these sanctions fabulous old unfair competition and creating tell more russias borders lets listen. The west will always try to hold us back to undermine our political and economic capacities this is all part of the same old game they want to throw russia of violence not just with direct assault like dirty competition and illegitimate sanctions but also going creating instability on our borders. Now one other of russias key relationships that lavrov did touch upon was of course with the u. S. And he said quite bluntly who are for wins in november whether its trump or biden probably very little is going to change he said that all moscow has ever wanted of course is good cooperation but on an equal footing sometimes washingtons policy especially when it comes to Foreign Policy made it very difficult for so those were the main topics on top of that they also talked about the resolution for the new corner karabakh conflict they talked about the ongoing protests in belarus but certainly the lines shot was dedicated to the current state of russias relationship with International Partners and the future of them. The ceasefire agreed between armenia and azerbaijan on saturday is repeatedly being violated with Congress Activity yet again escalating over the disputed enclave of the corner care about the conflict flared up over 2 weeks ago but has roots go back 3 decades with on and off bouts of fighting a contested region is mostly inhabited by Ethnic Armenians but is legally part of azerbaijan our correspondent in dollars reports from his capital. Before the war this street used to be bustling with life neighbors would come visit each other mothers would read bedtime stories to their children well now its almost completely abandoned after in azerbaijan e. S. Strike basically theres a huge Apartment Building here which is no more there are no windows it has partially collapsed its simply unsafe to live here here people as they ran to safety they abandoned their belongings like childrens bicycles they simply had no time to pack everything and i have to admit that since the truce the city of stop on it the capital of nagornokarabakh has it more or less easy been bodman do still happen but they are move rather than they used to be and they are almost entirely almost completely limited to nighttime its more or less the same in of it towns of nagornokarabakh like the towns of martini and shushi in fact thing is similar pictures similar very very similar devastation can also be seen from azerbaijan its 2nd largest city of ganja came under shelling just a couple of days ago. And it would be wrong to say that the fighting has ceased elsewhere too as were filming this theres a faint but a very distinctive sound of shelling coming from over the mountains to the south from here that is where the town of adroit is which is viewed as a gateway into nagornokarabakh so it is a very heavily contested area the fighting is also fierce in the north the. Seems both armenia and azerbaijan are trying to get a firm grip on some key strategic places and heights before real peace negotiations begin as both militaries are fighting for diplomatic leverage done of reporting from the going to karabakh r. T. A belgian cellist has performed at the heavily damaged cathedral in were going to care about the musician has armenian roots and played a piece by an armenian composer the cathedral in the city of syria was shelled a week ago. They are the by john claimed but its regions were being shelled by Armenian Forces both nations denied violating the cease fire agreements the video you are seeing right now is from the as eerie city of tosa which according to barcoo has been shelled several times since the conflict escalated and as a result people have taken shelter in their basements heres what some of them had to say. Many of us are shelling constantly theyre shelling us now with different weapons bombs rocket launchers use it all. One week ago. And my upstairs need was home was completely burned it was impossible to take anything from the house our house is also seriously damaged doors windows even the walls everything became useless in general we cannot sleep when they stop shilling for one hour an hour and a half we can close our eyes and map then you sleep and wake up and you sleep and you wake up over and over again. Going back to our top story now the live interview the Russian Foreign minister gave this morning were joined by luke are very independent journalists to discuss this further now look at the Russian Foreign minister question the possibility of a business as usual dialogue with the e. U. What you think driven relations to such a low. Well look at seeing incapacity of europe to develop a structured policy Foreign Policy i mean. Somehow the commission of the land is not as efficient as it should be not like mr young koch was for example and bus with mark at any International Affairs it was better there were i mean it was a more seasoned politician mrs have on the plane doesnt know much somehow she was a very bad minister of defense in germany and knowledge she is just as bad in the role of president of the European Commission she wants to be the best pupil in clubs and she gives everything the rest and the move to everybody and the European Parliament and the policy is blocked in trying to be on many many issues like the depression of 750000000000 for the economy create call for Europe Europe it is still not adopted can you imagine where we are approaching middle were middle of october and its still not decided and it should be ready bordering 750000000000 euro by the 1st of january so these are internal issues but externally its just suspect have missed the boat ill be in charge of Foreign Affairs and hes pastas today to press conferences to confuse ukraine and a lot of those its really not up to the standard where it should be so that sanctions on but i produce now sanctions on russia for the not only case i mean this is not very clever because these sanctions just a few decide to sing russia and they you know poison the atmosphere if i may say while it shouldnt be the case not because we have issues where we are on the same side as russia in the Eastern Mediterranean with turkey and i got me. All the places and but i do somehow we have the same interests well russia has even suggested stopping talks with the e. U. Will together if than about any sanctions come into force i mean how do you see this playing out. Well i think it will last for some time and then of course the local continue the the measure that the most you know Important Missions that germany and europe could take would be to stop the. Pipeline between russia and germany north stream too but of course the germans dont want to do that because that would hit them and you at a very badly we need russian gas and so they dont put them on the sanction list so the sanctions are not really sanctions its you know wagging the finger its really not up to standard where your tip should be as such as an International Power and talking with russia which is another you know power and the world so that this is no good for them and they put these attacks any military and motives behind these sanctions for example perhaps he was trying to hinder russias development. Yeah i wouldnt say it like that but. If you did doesnt really know what they want i mean nato he stare is a warmonger to push considering russia as the enemy nato has nothing to do since the end of the warsaw pact on the other side i mean they look for something to do so they havent found anything better than. Promote the ukraine as a future partner in nato which is totally wrong so it is really a noise in russia which is understandable and europe should not get into this we should be partners with russia you know that the sanctions we we have we as europeans have imposed on russia in the last few years for the mayor for example and essentially still there its a few a few people few deciders in moscow who are concerned they dont care because they dont travel to the west they dont have an account frozen in the west and so we only get ourselves because our exporters of cheese and food dont export to russia anymore because of course there are sanctions from russia on europe you know thats the normal also thats the way it works so we have everything wrong in europe now have a independent journalist thank you for speaking to us today. The director of the World Health Organization has the countries not to pursue a herd immunity strategy against the corona virus he said deliberately allowing the virus to spread among populations is dangerous and unethical. Immunities are cheap by protecting people from a virus not by exposing them to it. Never in the history of probably killed has heard immunity been used as a strategy for responding to an outbreak a little more a pandemic its scientifically. Problematic well some scientists have argued that covert 19 should be allowed to circulate freely to allow populations to build up a natural resistance to the virus the idea gain some traction early on in the pandemic suite and de facto pursued herd immunity while the u. K. Initially considered it as an option early and my colleague you know neil discussed the issue with a panel of experts. Herd immunity is it really such a bad idea i think it is really a bad idea d one of the primary reason is that we dont really know a lot about humanity against 4 lives its not long lasting the mexico we can expect is that we year so this means that we have to go through this process over and probably will be very costly and probably other people that i guess the basic idea that we that we hoping to achieve some level of immunity within the population indeed heard live in the community is just how do we get the do we get the through a vaccine or do we get the true through natural infection and whats going to be whats going to cause least to us societys overall the w. H. O. It hasnt been perhaps as clear as it could have been particularly this week it also said that locke. Are by are they contradicting themselves how do you see this this advice a lot of the information thats coming from governments and from World Health Organizations and agencies are are really confusing for most people if a lockdown is happening or not if its a good thing or not and now about issues of herd immunity and so its coming down to who is communicating the right message and what is the role of of the individual trying to protect their family do they think that its a good idea if somebody gets chicken pox or they dont have it later in life do they get coated now and thats a really dangerous position to be putting individuals in increasingly people are looking at the example of sweden not stuck on hoss and officially adopted a herd immunity strategy but that has been the result essentially in practice another dealing death rail its almost 0 how they got it right through one way or another well it includes people they have been claiming that there is no restrictions or backed level of the law that other countries have. But the have had all those control years that ought to quietly minimize the spread of infection on number of people. Gathered there were pictures wear and tear of people in restaurants and cafes when essentially the rest of europe wasnt doing that they where in sweden oh yeah absolutely i think sweden is certainly of that you have all stages off the front of me i think it is a lot of your culture to move forward because we both really know whats going to happen tomorrow in the sweetest words fact and so although certainly the swedish perspective is a very good very able to compare between but i think it is too early to nicole that they have. Adopted the right approach as the w. H. O. Has pointed out lock downs are incredibly damaging each other ways and we and one governments are struggling with these balancing the damage from lock downs with the with the damage from not look down and they cant win whichever decision they make their price is to be paid and its extremely difficult to know also that action is the right 1. 00 and will probably only know in retrospect the governments counted everything if people i suppose are aware of the risk should they be allowed to go on to expose themselves to potential infection and take their chances and perhaps get that immunity level well the real issue is this is the inequality lockdowns are showing at the choices that people have to make you know person who has to put food on the table leg like all of us. May have to leave the house to to do that so we have to be concerned about not just Emotional Wellbeing but the economic well being of the educational wellbeing and so those are the risks that people are are also balancing out. The days top stories coming up after the break. Anyone else seems wrong. Why dont we all just dont call. Me. Yet to shape our disdain comes to educate and in detroit equals betrayal. When so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. As the election approaches we feel its necessary to distribute the simple game to we question why do most potential voters describe themselves as independent or not affiliated with the Political Party on top of this a good deal more choice which is the true party system losing. Welcome back the 1st case of covidien reinfection has been confirmed in the us according to a study published by the lancet its medical journal the patients symptoms were far most severe the 2nd time around the 25 year old man from nevada who has no recorded immune disorder 1st tested positive in april pain later recovered with 2 negative tests but in june developed severe symptoms and again tested positive is the 5th case of reinfection registered worldwide and the 2nd case where the symptoms got worse mark dorie the lead author of the study says this shows surviving coronavirus once doesnt make you immune. Scientific data that we have from this case and other cases will indicate that if somebody has had hope at 19 we just dont know whether that person ca