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Afshin rattansi were going underground on day 3 of an old bailey hearing for the worlds most famous publisher and journalist julian a son jesse faces the trial of his life in london later in this program well speak to use of salaam one of the central park 5 whose Wrongful Conviction that donald trump to argue for the Death Penalty but 1st here is Julian Assange speaking presciently about the power of the black lives Matter Movement in one of the many interviews he did for this program in 216 black lives matter. Movement has come upon. Us by the hard work practice but the core of what is driving it is our footage that is undeniable that if you want its not a matter of the you know do you believe the police do believe friends of a person who are strong witnesses it is undeniable footage of exactly what has occurred is not only stimulating parts of the black community i think the black community is on the understood this all too long. But its stimulating enormous acceptance and sympathy outside the market because the argument is proven a son speaking to us in 2016 after being granted asylum in the Ecuadorian Embassy in london the un special rapporteur on torture claims the founder of wiki leaks has been tortured by u. K. Authorities since his capture by Scotland Yard and this week the trumpet ministration seeks to extradite just lacked that could see him die in a u. S. Prison his supporters include Amnesty International Reporters Without Borders as well as even mainstream news outlets cognizant that the court of controversial english judgment could lead to the nail in the coffin of for. The speech in britain sanchez millions of supporters around the world here are a few who have spoken to us here on going on the ground it would be a criminal on the part of the british. To exceed d to the us to their tradition. It would be true theyve already committed many crimes. A sergeant has offense is not being bill and if hes extra good it comes up for trial on the us as spinozas laws which even carry a potential death. Its trial is being. Committed the crime of letting the general population know things that they have a right to know that powerful states dont want them to know anyone who exposes misconduct is not a terrorist i mean Julian Assange says never threatened anyone he has never committed a violent in hes never threatens to commit one. And hes exposed oftener and so i think we should be grateful that we know that these things and states should be grateful that they can hold those people to account that. War when he leaks has done an incredible job. Hopefully you know the saying will be solved but its and same situation youve committed no crime. Here all political and i wouldnt support him. I think youre an incredible person who has brought our heart and we have to support him in every way the parents im now have a lot less and on the right what i know look up a case of julian assad ive got a month to concrete a man with. Cruelty to put such cruelty. A court can treat him put such cruelty. Is quite capable of a form of cruelty no problem policy but the most Important Information that we truly in the sciences fellow citizens of the globe need is information about the secret malfeasance and wrongdoing of our governments which are legit. And truly in the sarge along with Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden and the other whistleblowers down the years of the heroes who helped us to gain some of the knowledge that the powers that be would keep secret if they could support whistleblowers this Truth Tellers to have a government after all its its extraordinary to be up against that even Boris Johnson who was being the most ruthless live free journalist should understand if you will agree to what do you consider asking you to do i mean to do engine trades jury massagers exposed wall cripes to margaret couldnt face the missiles 1st of those things which the United States student. Already said washington is good any form. Of the Us Constitution doesnt apply to them so theyre going big anyone out. Here. To washington to be tried since most governments do the bidding and eat with people dont go out. And its all in. Your ear its only major and make many mistakes but excuse day in march contribution used to make us aware of the next day in the week we drove that many people a bit and so on its so wonderful to meet the best face of joining us both. Google is just if i got out 1st day i soon as i started to hear about it were suddenly far forward that it would end this way. The idea of somebody who says theres all this stuff thats hidden from you and im going to show you im going to give it to you left right and center. Is a kind of person ive always wanted to see you know what ive always felt that was so much that we just dont know about and heres somebody to kind of put me in the Public Domain one finger really upsets me is that. We dont hear about all of the stuff that theyre putting out and i saw the film of american soldiers shooting innocent people in the street this is big news these are the kinds of things that the people of my country the people who work should know about these are the kind of things that these people get up to some of the supporting Julian Assange says he faces extradition to the United States there as to the hearing itself his final word with those arguably on the front line of the battle for british and Global Press Freedom im going underground social media producer part of it and today were outside the old bailey in london by Julian Assange is the wiki leaks founder is arguably in the pipe or is the life why he faces the 1st day of his u. S. Electrician haring trial if he is actually right if the United States he faces a 175 years in a Supermax Prison behind me are many of his supporters and there are some big names out here today who are backing the wiki leaks founder im going to be looking to talk to some of them 1st they are themselves actually trial waters german soldiers condition hes been tortured according to the u. N. Of course hes been tortured and he is not in a good place thats all i can say we heard in the last administration very serious condition has deteriorated like. Course today is the 1st ever trial what are your expectations as been allegations of bias from the court judge is. There any hope now that has come to the old bailey and. We have to bring to the hope that my expectations are low but i demanded justice and when she told him and the justice in this case the abuse of process the been seen in this case up till now it is absolutely horrific its been piling up in the years and the months leading up to this day theres been spying on legally privileged communication theres been stealing of material and 3 weeks ago the americans just threw into this court a totally new document an indictment that totally changes the narrative and julian is supposed to have 3 weeks to prepare for that and his lawyers will the americans have been cooking this up in a 10 year process this is absurd it should be thrown out and if its not thrown out today it will be an abuse of process and an abuse against the rights of Julian Assange say the stars course where you dont want to go where german sanchez extradited where i would put the fight go from the potentially this is only one battle in the war here in this court there will be appeals if he loses here well take it up to the Supreme Court we will do everything in our power to stop this extradition because theres so much at stake not just the life of Julian Assange but the future of journalism as ive been covering the general songe process of the last year calling to every quarter that ive seen the process stronger having seen the same thing around the world a support growing for german fans and even the momentum is growing in his favor i think the momentum is is really coming to his favor and were seeing that in the next you have journalists that are starting to wake up to what is at stake because its their future their job security their right to report on National Security issues when it pertains United States the president of this case is starting to sink in and we should all be of afraid all journalists should be afraid of whats happening here so much of the. And just finally some outlets are doubling down on all of the same as against events on for example Washington Post in a recent article socalled wakey leaks a russian decimation outlook what do you say its all of that all the other guys the germans on to the russian agent its an absurd and its a reflection of the new cold war that we are seeing live being blown up i mean. The please is also cold an anti secrecy organization what is that its the play of were doing a cold Transparency International antisecrecy organization were fighting for trust total transparency just like every journalist should do in this world dossier of journalists on sexual controlled has been on the show saying that there was been a lot of bias against us all from judge for rights are any hope now for more impartiality now that weve called the old bailey well as christine just said we cant depend on hope but. There is enormous pressure for justice in this case and look at the people around here its soul train truly and is now at the center of an International Struggle for justice so i do think that if this court. Allows the extradition of julian. It will go to appeal and im reasonably hopeful that type appeal to the court used to be called british justice my profile i think most people are now intensely angry that this huge miscarriage of justice. Has now found its way to the old bailey to the Central Criminal Court to be. Presided over by a system but israel. Not given truly any justice would go so the last one that i spoke to you were inside about a cage of the canary but your limits on. The football symbolized must be so on the bat that we had a goal post and a 6 hour supply is that the call that pain. Has been playing football with these pay tron to every time they try to trap the scores of goals that no case whatsoever against them to keep changing the mill in fencing the rules moving the goal post and they did so problem is going to get them but they will never said that because its so cobol if that means i will find him to take the step back this is what we face what do you think the consequences will be if youre in a bunch is oxidized at the top despite a will forever be a shining fly hes a hero hes an icon he he on the my film corruption and faithful if theyre still alive because we say mass extinction will recognize him and a shining truth you have any hope that the brothers jumped at the will provide journey leveling oxidized vol rhesus no listen to Public Opinion Public Opinion piece changing in favor of studios it sounds that before like a phone they dont give us about that asshole they do want they want this is the problem of course he would be free because he has his day he has no good no case against it its all incentive and yeah and they had a ball even with that said case they will find him guilty because they because it culminates in a Company Called relatives and thats why we wear these bags over on head because thats what happens if dont say its in the bag those are some of the biggest names on here was the photo jitterbug full coverage of gen con as our solution troll make sure to say if youre going on a drug sucker you option social media pretty easy to find. Ahmed there well weve invited the u. K. Government to appear on the program or provide us with a statement they havent got back to us yet but theyve said in the past that they disagree with a number of the observations by the un repertoire on torture who detailed what he saw as torture of Julian Assange belmarsh prison the government also said judges are impartial and independent from government with any judgement based solely on the facts of the case and the a political law and of course u. K. Prime minister Boris Johnson has previously said its only right that Julian Assange finally faces justice joins us after the break as we speak to a man who knows all about wrongful detention talk to years of salaam one of the exonerated central park 5 you spent almost 7 years in juvenile detention for a crime he didnt commit and whose story is dramatized in netflixs Award Winning show when they see us. So weve got to do is identify the threats that we have its crazy confrontation let it be an arms race. Spearing Dramatic Development the only thing im going to resist i dont see how that strategy will be successful very critical time to sit down and talk. Join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and ill be speaking to get out of the world of politics sports business im show business ill see you then. Welcome back while Julian Assange fights for his life in london over the next 4 weeks are there any lessons to be learned from the Wrongful Conviction of the 1990 central park 5 they won the largest ever pay out in new york state history 41000000. 00 in the storys been dramatized. In netflixs Award Winning show when they see us one of the 5 of the use of salaam joins me now from Atlanta Georgia his new young adult novel punching the air coauthor babies a boy tells the story through verse of one boys struggle against the u. S. Justice system its out now you said thanks so much for joining us on on going underground as i said in part one we heard about the julian a songe case a lot of people think hes innocent Amnesty International these different n. G. O. S fighting for him i know youve been asked the question before but how does anyone cope with being in a maximum security prison knowing theyre innocent you know the biggest challenge just to try to figure out how to keep your mind free even though your bodys in bondage as we know where your head goes your body follows and so as we begin to look at you know the opportunities even through now like weve been experiencing coppa 19 in the world and some people have been going out of their mind because of this and the greatest thing that we can do is try to channel our energy meditate as deep in as far as we can and channel our energy to keep our minds as free as possible because where our minds go or bodies follow but of course in this book there are so many different facets that you examine i mean theres a line here bail money let me know the people believed in me. Something actually bijectively peculiarly apt for julian aside how how did bail money mean so much to you when you were incarcerated. You know because the Community Responds and the Community Responds in such a powerful way by putting their dollars against the system the whole system is coming against you and a great thing about it is that in black and brown communities in those most marginalized communities in america a lot of folks get it because theyve also been known about a spike of justice and those indelible scars that they continue to experience allow them to take their hard earned money whether it be a 1. 50 cent whatever it is all of their stuff adds up and when you need to get someone out of prison because theyre going through this tremendous time their families are not now also going through its not just that individual the family is going through the awful a loss of not having them there with them the community is going through an awful time as well and so its its a really powerful. Expression of hope of resilience of truth that someone would use their money to help to get someone out because people will know if theyve seen the documentary central park 5 all of the netflix t. V. Show the appalling way the media can behave out as one cope when the journalists are just acting as that of refers for power. You know thats the biggest challenge i think when i look at what happened in our case 2 weeks after we were accused the now President Donald Trump who was a real estate mogul back then took out a full page ad calling for our deaths it was essentially telling the rest of america that it was ok that open season for black people were ok and especially for the central park 5 warrants gnome. They made a sly. Like. Part of the way they have to do with us. They hope that someone from those most sinister sides of society would do to us what they had done to emmett till as a matter of fact another media personality pat buchanan wrote in the papers that we should take the eldest one corey wise and hang him from a tree in central park and that we should do this by june 1st and so we were we were up against tremendous odds the gravitational pull of the negativity that we were in is something that we are experiencing now because we have social media everybody has a front row seat to all pression especially oppression in america and you know White Supremacy white male dominance is something that we are all experiencing the evil of around the globe and as we try to move out of that gravitational pull fighting against spiritual wickedness in high and low places we have a