Are dying of diabetes because our entire Health System is being destroyed you dont fight life. You create harmony with life and its inability to meet harmony to create immunity to create resilience that is basically at the root of the militaristic mind losing every war against life well obviously big agriculture Big Pharmaceutical Companies and big oil they all deny that they have anything to do with her creating disease but we do hear from press briefing say from downing street here in london or from the white house the fact that Big Multinational Companies will be involved in our defense against coronavirus just tell me about what you talk about in one this your investigation of the origins of intellectual property and are you optimistic that there will be no payton to on any future vaccine against corona virus the 1st you know to work on patents is what led me to create another and see saving and fighting against the illusion that corporations like monsanto are inventors of life and see just the employment of billions of years of natures evidence and thousands of years of farmers breeding that its a machine that the events the book one this one says one percent grew out of the fact that i witnessed at the paris summit on Climate Change that bill gates and Mark Zuckerberg was strutting around on the streets with heads of state and i said when didnt billionaires were an elected start telling elected leaders what they should be doing so as we watch not just the bailouts going to the people who brought us the crisis the oil industry American Nickel industry and big pharma are one theyre not different the Investment Funds like black or r. And then god. Blackrock true corona became control of assets of 23. 00 trillion amazon bridges i just create a platform and destroys livelihoods every 2nd we try to create new monopolies just in the last month 24000000000 additional well project because it was while as the International Labor organization is warning us we have a pandemic of an employment and as the cooled well Foods Program isnt pouring us we have a hunger pandemic so all the billionaires actually would like to trash humanity trash the planet and they think without the base without that which supports they point to me that they will continue to make trillions its that illusion that i talk about in my book one as well as the one percent kid talking science but over there and their drugs wonder aids drugs next year there are corona drugs one day of it a bolo acces next to the corona vaccines the story of the corroborates or changes by the dea the treatment stories change by the and i think we need d a very large independent community of opinion largess medical people scientists to take stock of the many unscientific spins that have been given its always a sort of associated with the challenge of property rights. Drops that are not even an example attention Deficit Disorder among children is because of the bad that. Yes fish and sea of micronutrients interest elements are farms with bite it will city provide more of those micronutrients which then allow your brain to function your 12. 00 punch well obviously obviously we tell our viewers to consult their own medical practitioners and as for your criticism of a big oligarchy with their billions who are interviewed every other day it seems for their great information on coronavirus they would say no theyre far from. Being negatives theyre feeding the bigger world theyre creating the interconnectivity around the world and they are emblematic of progress quite the opposite of what youre saying quite nervous in just the facts and evidence of that than all the Long Distance of lines after that is what is still working our local farms and Community Supported agriculture and links between the growers of food call us the problem and its the land of the my book oneness was one percent isnt how the socalled philanthropists activity landreau capitalists my book is analyzed every sector that has been shaped and driven by bill gates there was no gene dry still he started to finance it it was. Or 5 years ago there is pushing it is deregulating the European Court of justice said its a g. M. Theyre trying to have it declared and not g. M. Or all the instability of this gene try. The negative is coming out gene tries to push species to extinction can you imagine the mines the miners that would imagine it has the power to engineer extinction i wish Extinction Rebellion what drives up against this deliberate extinction difficult arguments difficult to have a demonstration on at the moment but there is no direct evidence at the moment that the creation of monocultures by capitalism by greed directly created coronavirus surely we need that proof before big agriculture big mining big pharma have to pay for what in effect is a v. Forestation and so on for creating coronavirus when we do know that the bias comes from a back that much we know i also have newspaper reports from india hold all of the Defense Research years of china and the u. S. C. Jointly came and pirated really thats and viruses from india in the not. So we do know there was a deliberate collection of these there are d. N. A. Similarities around 94 percent we dont know it came from about doing. No we do we do that it is then been modified how its been modified is the uncertain but whats the modification is what is a defense lab is the way markets thats where the different stories start to get barely confusing we would have a swine flu without the monoculture factory farms we wouldnt have bird flu without moral culture factories you know you know that the big but the big fear of it is that it is ecology we know diversity is what creates a brig in the spread of disease and bess but is enabled to print age more easily on vulnerable bodies vulnerable by a big maybe vulnerable by the poison and monocultures of the mind as ive called it is the inability to see how equal systems well the inability to see how diversity is michael and i b b a b s the expert group will international of the convention on biological diversity is coming out with a report that without by the industry will have no help and i have put out a call on earth to just say theres one hell on one planet and it comes through biodiversity those bigger cultural firms that have an immense amount of money and lobby on k. Street in washington and lobby here they will tell you that we have the black death we had great plagues we had epidemics pandemics where before capitalism started we had them during feudalism not because im not saying because the plea but i am saying that they have created of false system that has become the basis of chronic diseases and the emergence of new diseases 2nd even the double agent i would say w. H. Y. Are you absolutely worried about this pandemic what will the pandemic of diabetes and obesity. All of the u. S. Needs are issuing and the worst with sims of the corona infection are the black americans who either was with germs of pollution of the poison its a bad food ringback they were already put into what i call a nutritional out of mind can you imagine the degradation of the human being if people in the richest country have to live in what is called deserts the died in a full desert is a recipe for obesity and diabetes and people with obesity and these are the worst victims 9. 2 percent is the risk of dying if you have diabetes and the corona habit and when the other wrist is one percent ive got to tell you that here in this country riches are not the chancellor Boris Johnson chancellor was 1st to quantitatively ease 645000000000. 00 into the footsie stock market our entire Pension System here in britain alone in the United States is intertwined with the very companies you keep mentioning do you believe that all the pensions should be disavowed thing immediately from these massive agriculture companies. Well 1st of may is made. Its turn to remember that workers have rights including the rights to their pensions they have a right to decide how that money will be spent to create subsidies for those who are destroying the planet destroying our health destroying our livelihoods or you was to be able to recover after this pandemic which is not one pandemic it is a 100 and then make it is a livelihood pandemic of course its a corona pandemic which is occurring in disease fed a pandemic and my big worry is as you lock people into their houses and as amazon is given through them to deliver every ad of amazon that comes on my computer is junk food packaged food. And is not what were supposed to eat this should be couldnt you the mission of the workers of our Pension Funds and they should be taking for mission of the 16 trillion microbes in our gut i think we are in a time where we need a democratic debate about the use of our money. A new reclaiming of the commons including ringback down public Health Systems which is what is see in this crisis not the private for profit system the robber barons of today are barons but theres still room barons and as they say big dita is the new law and its still an oil and its still extracted from our minds and hoping from our bodies with under the skin Surveillance Systems being treat created this is a moment for people to become more deeply democratic and not allow the low down to be a lockdown on the palm hines the lockdown of our freedom of thinking the lockdown of hostility that it took to run the machine stop you there more from the world renowned environmentalist after the short break plus after tens of thousands dead how did the n. H. S. Europes largest employer go for manufacturing lifesaving p p to begin communist china for it. So what weve got to do is identify the threats that we have its crazy confrontation let it be an arms race. Spearing Dramatic Development the only relief im going to resist i dont see how that strategy will be successful very critical time to sit down and talk. Some are solutions serious imax guys are here to say see herbert you know in a month in which we were meant to have the 2 Party Conventions officially baumann a dollar charge for the republican and joe biden for the democrats the pen demick has thrown the election in to even more chaos than usual so joining us is greg palast a journalist author of many books including his latest out now skyrocketing up. All the best seller list its called troll stall 2020. Welcome back well be talking about n. H. S. Shortages later in the show but im still here with world renowned environmentalist talking from the shiva we would say here in britain at least some of us that we have democracy we have the European Union the European Parliament we have these big trade blocs we have w t o organizations with democratically accountable representatives you believe however that fundamentally to our denying of the precautionary principle which is now of course being investigated in the context of coronavirus these are fundamental to the denial of the precautionary principle that has led us to this i think sadly the direction it was driven by the denial of the proportion of principle i witnessed how it was the European Union losen biosafety that was seen as coming in the we of the g. M. Will issue and a democracy which has been hijacked by big money and the billions. Its no more a democracy it is just at the start for a dictatorship and today we have a dictatorship of money which is able to totally trash peoples will peoples freedom that is what we have to wake up to right now people are talking about the vaccine the urgent need for a vaccine so that specially ironically the developed nations of the United States of the United Kingdom can get out of the mess that it finds itself in how can we stop ourselves from having to rely on big pharma doing research that actually threatens bio safety food safety. Epidemiology itself i think 1st of all we do need democracy and diversities knowledge the 2nd is those who make money out of investments in a particular treatment of any kind this should not be Decision Makers this should not be allowed to come and talk to president s and prime ministers because it is a conflict of interest to institutions that often talk to prime ministers and president s of the world bank and the International Monetary fund do you believe that at least this pandemic means they will be less able to tell the leaders of the global south to privatized their Health Care Systems what Health Care Systems they have after the Global Pandemic the hind behind insurance then how i need behind bailouts if you know world bank and i. M. F. Are already getting ready and theres not a single time where world bank and i. M. F. Have given money without a structural adjustment package behind it in 99 to one it was a 90000000000. 00 crisis we had when world bank pushed the privatization of the seeds and that is what destroyed our agriculture and that is what created refugees most indians were farmers that Refugee Status is today in the migrant labor half of india. Works as to carry sleep all well and they have no work there todays hungry people saw you know the greed of the money machine as i call it in my book one this was one percent on which the i. M. F. World bank the damage to your rules the billionaires who really gain out of this the now thinking of how do you mine the minds of people thats what this book does when it says the answer to Cambridge Analytic how can you mind the data the bodily activity of human beings and then sell back lintas of the lands that is what people who have a passion for freedom and a passion for life should be looking at well the government here wants everyone to download an application to help people from coronavirus and surely bill gates has children and Boris Johnson here in london has just had another child why do you believe they would be a part of mass surveillance not only mouth surveillance but the distorting and manipulating of research around say pandemics like coronavirus so if you think of 2019 we could call 29000 the expression of peoples food everywhere in the world from cheerleader lebanon everywhere people were out on the streets calling for a change in the political and Economic System when you create your wealth through test and people free people have the possibility to rafikis youre not just afraid of life because life can serve organize it really well youre afraid of people what they dont learn is you cannot shut down treat. Even a blade of grass knows how to break through the concrete and we have to become blades of grass well im not sure what the low birth rate say to that ive got to mention actually a documentary produced by Michael Moore directed by jeff gibbs that was released for free on the internet on earth today your eat it youre in the documentary come under a lot of criticism because it seemed to say that the socalled new Green Technologies you mention blackrock earlier and of course Pension Funds heavily invested in brand new Green Technologies for profit it seemed to cast doubt on wind power solar power and the way these technologies are created and whether they actually do help the environment at all i have learned to do full Cost Accounting do not call all the appearances but to call the hand. So we were always told industrial food is cheap and is feeding the word saw i started to do the full Cost Accounting and found that this trillions and trillions of dollars dollars of channel in monitor destruction made of us do destruction struction a farmers and destruction when we add all that together we will realize that we were not of poor industrial food pushed by the old boys and cartel and be gone if you take biofuel give me 2 look like its very efficient inside out in the European Union we had big debates in the parliament where they were getting big subsidies for my fuel diverting fuld to feel but it takes not forsooth you do produce biofuels and it substitutes just finally then since you mention accountancy in a sense you believe something as basic as farm yield now and different types of statistics that accountants use should now or should now put in one column the cost because of coronavirus all definitely and im not talking about. County im talking about oddity in the full cost benefit and you know it as a for the farmers whove been pushed into the chemical track and this is. My money i say lets sit and do the total accounting costs and benefits and then they realize theyre losing out their debt or 100000. 00 farmers so say the 2 principles that came out of the earth summit and i had the privilege to be there the precautionary principle and the polluter should we measure nutrition we measure health and our work with the real farmers and true Cost Accounting is showing that we could feed 2 times in the u. S. Population theres an amazing article that is definitely more powerful than a bill some of jeffries of the really little Little Creatures dont understand theyre in significance in the largest or. We invited them both on dr underachiever thank you. That think it. Well while Boris Johnson the government stands accused of overseeing the underreporting of the u. K. Coronavirus death toll the numbers of Health Workers killed have been tragically clear but why is the n. H. S. Find it so difficult to get basic protection for its workers the n. H. S. Europes largest employer now depends on communist china even though a Global Pandemic was rehearsed for back into any 16 im joined now via skype from london by the cochair of keep our n. H. S. Public dr tony solomon tony thanks for coming on before we get on to other issues fundamentally how is it that not keeping our n. H. S. Public as a factor of britains response to coronavirus because that whole service with this 1700000 people a single. Protects the. And this is being undermined in the worries it isnt just senators and zeeshan the government is seriously understand that the n. H. S. So that its always under pressure is always on the sunders they havent seen the stance that its huge numbers and sequences they dont and thats equipments and all of those things which make a mountain to be clear this is under successive administrations Tony Blair John major cameron and of course main Boris Johnson why is it that on the front line doctors and nurses have to have to get personal Protection Equipment from private providers given the n. H. S. Is the largest employer in europe or that what exactly is the story behind the fact the n. H. S. Cannot produce its own protective equipment for its own staff well beyond behinds this is really serious failure to protect the top of the testing and continent facing and to present it and some nonsense any chance it stands in terms and so on behind us is this. Ideology thats. Tribe it is better than public and that the government should not be investing so much money in Public Services the n. H. S. In the past used to secure it its only equipments and make its own equipment to a certain degree of those that cant produce everything there is no reason on earth want the n. H. S. Could not be confusing essential equipment such as generic drugs and such owns personal protective equipment and he should be doing so we are going to complain to a return to asleep Public National fully provided fully funded Health Services and we will also be for that actually be extended to the cursors i havent even talked about the care service but of course drugs are suddenly discovered socialism in the n. H. S. Surely it cannot be his fault after all as regards this inability to procure equipment for as i say the largest employer in europe and not one politician administrative and doctor. Shop nursing management person in the n. H. S. Even sense exercise sickness when they simulated a pandemic thought oh we probably need some kind of a Protection Equipment for nurses and porters cleaners in the Health Service of that a lot of those who was involved in the. Will to publish the timings of exercise sickness in 2016 if there were voices indeed reduce the need saw a National Supply in preparation for such an agencys of constant protective equipment the recognition that there were insufficient barriers such a pandemic and specifically the lack of sentences out you know about this given that information is classified and top secret theres intimation that seen at least 20 people thats a cancer but. The song returns is not available so why that why are they doing on time until they do not because that shows them in a very tall arts and ari who challenge the suggestion that Boris Johnson has discovered socialism but what they mean how to do is realize that a nation in peril. And part of the world or us to use collective measures and put Public Service and not private interests just finally on the issue of secrecy im not sure if this is because of the Simon Stevens who is there the boss of n. H. S. England who has a prior career as a scandal head tell us private health care what do you make of the fact that n. H. S. Staff are right now being threatened with disciplinary action for talking to the media for even tweeting about shortages of lifesaving equipment and hand problems on the front line in britains response to coronavirus i think it is absolutely disgraceful. Bullying comes has come from the top and its come to top government and top of the n. H. S. England and then it goes down to managerial level in the regions and the chance the fact that they might be punished for raising seriously responsible issues is it isnt disgrace and i think this that whole political agenda that has been shown to be bankrupt if we learn one huge thing of benefit from this to a virus is that the near liberal agenda has thats who will the world and so people like no son stevens or the or the agents of change saw such an ideology and it has to start. Well to tell you some of them thank you for one of your favorite shows of the last season will be back for news he is going to come to the drive to show you dont miss an interview and join the other guy by pulling up with a Facebook Instagram and face a. L. Look forward to talking to you all that technology should work for people. I robot must obey the orders given by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the 1st law show your identification for should be very careful about Artificial Intelligence at the point is to create trusts. On various shots and with Artificial Intelligence where some of the demons. A robot must protect its own existence is a mix of. The sudden fullest and illegal takeover of a government by a small group. So rather than revolutionaries or so just condemn small groups the operations when you have a tiny group of people who have all the power you have to have some means to make sure the rest of us dont get together and talk about. Police or sacrifice some places that capitalism exploited and destroyed for profit and left behind misery poverty environmental devastation and so use. The things like Voter Suppression building more prisons you see gerrymandering all sorts of undemocratic practices. Used world. Of the. Protestors in minsk to flood the city yet again this time to pay respects to a demonstrator killed during the unrest meanwhile a video claiming to show the moment of his death comes to light. The german state of bavaria apologizes after failing to tell 900 people they had the coronavirus said comes as countries across europe see covert infections a spike. U. K. Holiday makers scramble to get home after france is added to britains coronavirus quarantine list but with only a few hours notice given its parks chaos for travelers. As soon as