A 1000000000 doses meanwhile tens of thousands of people will receive the vaccination in russia well the country hasnt yet published any data on the vaccine but this is pretty normal for russia for example sputnik the satellite was orbiting in space for nearly a week before the country disclosed its launch in 1957 well we can probably expect a similar approach to sputnik the vaccine in 2020. From our on this on the Coronavirus Vaccine we bring in dr William Schaffner with the Vanderbilt UniversityMedical Center dr schaffner thank you for joining us today lets start with this 1000000 dollar question theres no published data even though we just heard from the chief saying that the results from the face 3 trial will be published so is this marxian going to be safe and effective. Well we certainly hope so and the phase 3 trial of course will tell us that one patient even though the prime ministers daughter. It is not sufficient to get a vaccine out to hundreds of thousands if not millions of people and there is a little bit of confusion about how quickly this vaccine will be distributed to the population or whether they are going to wait until the results of that phase 3 trial are available which is of course the way we intend to do it right well let me ask you this dr weve seen a mcgurn also start there face 3 trial here in the United States how whats the difference between mcgurn us trial and what russia is announcing that theyve completed a phase 2 trial and are just starting a face 3 trial. Im not sure there is a big difference as long as there were reports of course that russia was going to start immunizing the population at the same time it started its phase 3 trial thats where the difficulty came in no it sounds as though as described the phase 3 trial is quite comparable to whats happening here in the west well earlier this month dr fox he said the us wasnt you as a vaccine that was developed by china or even russia but other countries like announced are starting to place their orders of billions if this vaccine ends up working is a us going to fall behind will it stand by what it said. Oh i think it will stand by what it said because for us to accept vaccines. Developed in other countries our food and Drug Administration would have to be closely involved in the design and the analysis of those studies and we havent seen those well we havent yet and the f. D. A. Has been very vocal about being involved in all of this its interesting how they werent as involved when it came to these antibody studies there were certain testing of the krona virus but they definitely want to take when it comes to the vaccine but speaking of vaccines here in the United States many expected it to be here before election day but many are saying that itll probably be available later this year but some experts are even saying that there is no way its going to happen by november 3rd yet here we are seeing russia already actively distributing a vaccine to the public to the hundreds of thousands is this a victory for russia or are there still too many unknowns with their vaccine. Oh their own nose with their vaccine and of course there are unknown as with any vaccines that we are developing here in the west the steven among the food and drug administrator the commissioner has been very clear and very rigorous about the nature of the evidence that will be required before we can say honestly to the u. S. Population this vaccine is affected how effective it is how safe it is and who should get it we need to have that very clearly in mind as we talk to the people in the United States well as were seeing here were seeing some record timing for the rush the global rush for the vaccine shouldnt these countries from the United States russia china name the country shouldnt we all be working together toward getting a vaccine. Well i think there are over a 150 scientific groups around the world actually working to develop vaccines against kogut and thats to the good there are many different approaches that are being taken and we sure can use as much help as we can get will definitely and because a much like you mentioned there is going to be a rush to get this vaccine out even of a vaccine does become available you said the f. D. A. Will obviously need to want to be very involved with what the process but a recent gallup poll actually shows that one in 3 americans or 35 percent they want to get a free f. D. A. Approved vaccine if it was ready today what does this say about public trust in u. S. Government. Well actually what it says is that the public is pretty sensible here we have a brand new virus about which were learning lore every day were making brand new vaccines in the using methods that havent been used extensively in the past so a little bit of healthy skepticism is appropriate they meet its our responsibility to get the information now when its ready in a clear enough fashion so that we can convince our fellow citizens to come in and roll up their sleeves get the vaccine and help all of us together to try to get this vaccine this virus under control well and much like you said dr l. Looks like this is obviously supposed to be a global after an effort to find a cure for people to feel safe but assuming the best Case Scenario that were looking at and there is a vaccine that are currently being developed and deployed that one of them actually works will cover 1000 ever really go away because many say that will either need a booster a vaccine after the 1st one or a vaccine may not be anough 2 to really help your immune system. I think we can be sure that this virus is not just going to disappear i think like influenza it will be part of our life we hope in a very very profoundly reduced fashion. And we hope to get there in large measure through the use of vaccines extensively and once that happens i think we can have the covert virus under very very good control but it will take sustained attention and it may well be as you suggest that every so often every year every 5 years we may have to get a booster vaccine but thats true of many vaccines that we take as adults and they offer the flu season every year as well so i guess that could be things your family or die. Youre the expert here i want to ask you this if you are a volunteer for example for an experimental vaccine thats going in to face 3 trial and then youre going to be followed essentially for 2 years right we have been having this conversation here in the studio and im sure others of you would like to know how are you then being going to be prevented from getting a new more effective vaccine in the meantime or is that open that you can just even if youre in a trial you can go and get a new vaccine wanted to vailable. One of the conditions of being a volunteer in the trial is that you can pull out of the experiment at any time for any reason we dont restrict your freedom of course we would like people to remain in the trial so that we can get the final answers unadulterated by these complications of getting additional vaccines that would make you you know legible would make the data from your particular contribution difficult if not impossible to interpret so obviously we would like to keep everybody in the trial for as long as possible well thats thats the hope for it and that some of these trials one of them of the many that weve weve looked at and mention work so that we can become go back to a new normal i guess that is after what we saw the last year because thats definitely a new normal that is dr William Schaffner with the Vanderbilt UniversityMedical Center we really appreciate you making time for us today and and i getting your your expert insight. Thank you so much good to be with you. Airline stocks are seeing some big gains this week as investors are eyeing a nearly 25000000000. 00 relief package won sunday t. S. A. Saw the highest single day total passengers of more than 831000. 00 people that pass through t. S. A. Checkpoints now this was the highest since mid march despite the increase t. S. A. Traffic is still 70 percent down compared to last year well the Airlines Financial losses continue to grow and executives are warning it could cost tens of thousands of jobs without Government Support together american and United Airlines warned more than 60000. 00 employee jobs are at risk for more on the sector were joined by allied Pilots Association communication chairman Dennis Dennis good to see you thanks for being with us today this is a great to be back with you this is a particularly crucial season were looking at a summer peak Vacation Time that when we normally see and were seeing some highs but whats going to happen after the summer demand fades away that travel rush. Well and im a pilot for American Airlines and ive been out there flying and so we saw exactly what you reported an increase in flying it came down into a play it so with the resurgence and just as you talked we saw over 800000 throughput since he has say thats great to see thats 9 times as many folks 900 percent increase from the very low point back in april 12th still a long lot of runway to go as you mentioned were going to come into the fall season which is what we call a shoulder season so travel decreases as well but theres a lot a lot of static in their kids are going to be back at school theres certainly a pent up demand but thats juxtaposed the concern for where do you go and what can you do when you get there i think that a lot of people have realized that Airline Travel being on an. Playing with the mess with the help of filters in the air flow that we have going through its a safe environment but where do you go and what do you do when you get there is a key component of travel and i thought much data out there that says that you are more at rest to getting contracting corona virus if you travel on a plane especially when youre youre wearing a mask or its only its not at 100 percent capacity but yes people are very pent up after being walked down so because of this could we see sustained travel if cases begin to fall in and americans and feel safer taking the skies well especially after these these last couple of months. I think youre right and actually there is evidence that it is actually safe to travel as in weve not had any massive. Outbreaks that have been traced to an airplane so the data shows that it is safe we wouldnt be flying i would be flying is get them so i knew my best years were saved so where does it go from here where do our passengers decide to fly its going to be of critical importance as you mention with the cares act we are currently and in stand along with other unions Many Republican senators now have signed off on congressmen and women and the democrats as well with an extension for the care sector weve got to be there when our passengers want to fly and we saw this summer that they are ready to get back at it if and when they believe its safe and they have a place to go if were not there flying the airplane it takes up to a year to retrain us if we get all laid off or many of us do so were going to lose the recovery if were not ready to roll nestle the cares of investment the extension of that investment is so critical at this time its so vital and were looking at such a big timeline now the Airline Relief package simulate that wasnt included in the executive order that President Trump signed over the weekend but theyre both parties that they look like they might be ready to start negotiate. And again although there is no date on when that could be what could we be looking at in october or is there hope that they can reach the steal and what kind of offer or a package could we see for airlines in october. Well we sure hope so we know that our elected officials including President Trump who is affirmed his support of the airlines know how important it is to our free trade into our National Security and in october when it comes we want to see an answer closer in and that can be handled as we speak but i want to add that its not just airline jobs and are actually 76000. 00 notices that have gone out the u. S. There is a ratio of a little over 13 jobs outside the industry that are generated from airline jobs so when you multiply that out simple math is youve got over a 1000000 jobs on the line if they dont come up with an extension heres a good space equally holding she will for us until we get to as your doctor who so eloquently. Stated all the situation get us to that back seeing all of thats got to intersect and if it does it the right time we will not lose this momentum it will be on our way to recovery globally not just in the u. S. On much like you said that were seeing more Airlines Start to to require a mass there is no National Mass mandate but because the airlines are really enforcing people Wearing Masks ive heard of peoples experiences where they say that people are walking down up and down the aisles requiring people to wear a mask so im sure thats also increasing the the Safety Measures and the trust that people put on one flying on planes but its all part of it thanks to you and me of the employees and the people that they keep these airlines running tennis tator of the allied Pilots Association we really appreciate your time and being with us today. Thank you. Time now for a quick break but stay here because when we return we break down the games growing on wall street and what russias vaccine is could mean for the Global Economy as we go to break. Indeed. To raise. A very scary. Joining. Well the pandemic no certainly no borders and blind to nationalities. Has emerged with the we dont look like the whole world to. Judge a. Commentary crisis at least. We can do better we should know. Everyone is contributing way but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever the challenges grateful to response has been must so many good people are helping us. It makes us feel very proud that we are in it together. This week german officials dismissed the latest u. S. Sanctions threats over the construction of the north stream to gas pipeline republican senator son a lot are threatening to impose crushing legal and economic sanctions on the port of needs on the german baltic sea well during a joint press conference with his russian counterpart German Foreign minister. Said those threats will not work. This transatlantic relationship with the United States goes deeper than just day to day developments we must make it very clear the tensions between partners are definitely the wrong way and ultimately it remains our so are going to surgeon where we get our energy from no state has the right to dictate europes Energy Policy was right and this will not work. Well Russian Foreign minister Sergei Lavrov said theyll continue to Work Together and that washingtons criticism is a misrepresentation of the facts which are participants of the campaign nord stream to including russian participants german participants and others are determined that this project should be completed if. The u. S. Are use a pipeline is a Severe Threat to the National Security of the u. S. The u. S. Equities continue to grind higher tuesday as traders rotate out of tech names and back into the reopening trade names that would benefit most from a reopening of an economy such as cruise lines and airlines like we just spoke of will sentiment lifted on more hopes for a vaccine despite the uncertainty of further kron of our stimulus thats aimed at supporting these struggling americans joining me now. The c. E. O. Of opium us and boom bust cohost Christine Octavia lets start with you is it too soon to be so optimistic that a vaccine will be the cure all solution here and that everythings just going to resume like it was before and return to normal isnt the damage already done here. The damage is definitely done but im not trying to agree with the very premise of your question i think what weve seen in the market some fall today is quite the opposite so were going to you know sort of bizarre scenario right now with good news is actually news for the markets so lets assume this vaccine works as advertised and covert 19 goes away and everyone is back to normal working is that before then goes away as the entire stimulus package and all the monk should policy thats been pumped into the markets and so were actually quite the market and we did actually see in that last sort of the trading on quite a decline there and we saw a big big hit in the gold market today so gold was down about 5 percent today for this very reason so gold has been superseded as a safe to bet against inflation coming from montreal to see if the economy returns to normal Monetary Policy to us return to normal and that would be very bad for gold would be very bad for tech stocks and we bad for the stocks overall so were in a very strange environment right now good news coming out of russia if this vaccine actually works im rather skeptical about it but if it actually does work is going to be actually quite full stock market if it actually turns out that it is working as advertised very really are kind of saying that volatility that we spoke of and no longer hopeful for that you shape that v. Shaped recovery not even a u. Shape at this point but kristie part of this damage to the economy is in the Small Business sector thats where the most