Brought a lot of merchandise but guess what came with the merchandise on both sides chirps ok but there were traveling the germs were traveling so 1st of all as a short i was actually going up for School Exemption from weve had merchandise moving without anybody else sally how came from town to town to resettle and byron back and forth and horses travelling for you not from drama days anyway but the lets say its mobilization you get germs with it. But at the time. It took a long time. You know it took a long time to in fact they did. Train in Northern Europe and was now the middle east took a locked up for the people will be in fact that the day you can set up a conference and secure a town really see one of my favorite cities conference there 30000 specialists i dont know what say the. Lungs are it or something more boring say a liver liver specialist come in from all around the world so people come from its going to stand. Cincinnati they go they mingle and guess what they go back home for those later and 2 weeks later the start to spread their own to become super says super spreader thats we have many more support for that today so the good news is that now we understand the problem. And the pandemic we had was not very severe it was a small thing is here could have been a lot worse but it was not it was you know small thing and it was not the stuff mall but im saying you can get a lot worse could have been like something of the owner of smallpox or. Something similar or some other bacteria thats antibiotic resistant so we have now we live we have an awareness of it and the idea of any official theory is that every time a plane crashes the next plane ride you know would be safer to say the system learns from stakes and improves based on mistakes that is a good system so the world will be different wiser and then people now but hopefully its good for peace because people understand the moral that the enemy is not some person with weapons the enemy of the thing you dont see. The little germ. Pencil testing enemy you know you know. All these military threats are a say because the world this from place and that now people are aware of it but will they really be smarter you think because like im looking back at sars outbreak and had we paid more attention to it and gotten the vaccine back then and been so much easier to get the vaccine done for calling 1000 now it seems like we dont really learn that much from our mistakes do you really think its going to the vaccines are not the solution by the way this quarter connectivity is a solution because were still waiting for an issue of effects here so whatever whenever you discuss medical improvements. These take time take a lot of time. As our president can happen an unpredictable pace so if i say that 188 start but serious 5 years 40 years ago ok. Treatments maybe no back seat so you can have more steady improvement and treatments we may have a max of extreme tomorrows like winning a lot lotto and investment and even then it seems may prove to be short term effect effects of you know not long term effect because of as as you know you know things mutates so i think a more robust world would be one in which we do business as usual but guess what be prepared for hard times. Current prize are a lot cheaper to reduce mobility of the germs its a lot cheaper than having luck that. We spent trillions from you know lockdowns suggested she phones so have some measures. So that when you talk about be prepared for current times and that will take care of everything in terms of continuity being the danger. Ok i get that but is this like a temporary thing or should we stay in this sort of current time not forever can we ever somehow go back to the simplest werent fast travel hassle free boarders all that stuff you know you will have free mourners everything so long as people are prepared this there is an eruption of Something Like and i mean to ask Border Control to reduce connectivity because the germs dont travel by phone they will try a long zoom they travel you see on air france and the aeroflot and on carriers so you want to use that and then and let me tell you again lets Say Something out saying that senator kerry as you look at history and the. Black death the plague took place and the search and hundreds. Still have corn ties and 850. 00 and every ship talking about the psyche of the people that were prepared for it now sometimes maybe theyre lax about not using the laws or it goes with it but the people for actually 40 days potatoes before releasing them but they had a system in place for 500 years. Dont stop you cannot go and i was saying you cannot go from me Ottoman Empire into the hops bird we are going to touch whether or not there was a pandemic they had the system now im not asking to have contact all the time but to have a plan in place to inforce 3 levels check passengers. Test by sensors or contact bestsellers its a level 123 and still 000 most of the dive in till you have information and then you can act if you acted that way out of want we would have the problem. Oh it so heres the thing like in the beginning of the condemn make when it all started and we understood that it was global and he was irreversible everyone hysterically started remembering the notion of the black swan. And then it sort of got you knowing and you were saying this is really not a black swan its a white swan and then just the latest century a read of yours an International Business times are saying yeah actually it couldnt be a black swan is it is it because the pandemic itself the virus is self is not the black swan but the black swan is the handling of the aftermath there is a saying no no one has said this is a story so it will oh thats a people. Handling it. My black swan i said its not the disease but the eros the lack of logical behavior of our people. Theyre not you know i theyre not are they so let me tell you why its not a black swan a black swan to something you dont see coming something that they have movies about how could it be a black swan so they had movies about the nose in the black swan i discuss going through that and i say whoa because of the structure of the world. Expect to have maybe sure but that makes but deep are the ones that have the. And most not lets not trust medical knowledge too much because. It has improved for a lot of diseases but the diseases are smaller than most ok but whatever is happening now or not now that the disease is sort of. Going backwards but were left with economic consequences with fractured societies with minorities rebelling all over the world with with all the consequences that we have on our hands what i think you know is going to happen is a transformation of economic structures to accommodate. Potential pandemics even never happen again people do prepare for them like for example in the United States we have a migration out of new york city where you have a super spreader of i mean his subway so even if we control this one and its gone and you have to worry and goodbye even if you control this one there will be. Paranoia about what could happen next so so we have a some People Living in new york plus theres another thing there is a structural urban transformation in the way things are happening with academia and with offices that for the same reason were talking on zone on the new studio now and seems to work ok its a salute dating thing that would have happened in the physical world we are learning to do things offline and these things are taken place you know in a remote or a enough light that meant remote they think they can place remote are causing a gross of Economic Activity in some sectors so and so i think one of the transformation is a duchess and russia or country houses here are in demand people want to move there ok because you can do remote from there and once in a while go to the city as same time. Real estate is going to be depressed cities. Online shopping people learn to do Online Shopping its not as entertaining as going to the mall but you know having a house which means that malls are going to suffer big time everywhere. But also if you live in a remote place its good news for you because you may find an employer whos come to. They say for example now theres a crisis of love and all and people want to emigrate you know who stay there or try to be hired remote somewhere its much easier is all how the visa problem so it creates you know. Like people can travel without a visa holder a lot of the things like this always have been some other this transformation coming out of this coupled with some bad news for some industries. Businesses and of course to me its a bad news for for all this political. Geo political discourse because the enemy isnt just some foreign country anywhere the enemy is a german now and we all face and same for lets hope so lets hope so that lets hope that well actually learn something or really draw a lesson out of it ok it doesnt take a short break right now when were back well continue talking to the author of best selling books the black Swan Antifragile skin a game risk analyst Nassim Nicholas taleb dont go away. As the u. S. Economy was booming growing numbers of people were made homeless. You can work 40 hours in a week and still not have enough to get housing everybody believes america still is the way of opportunity for the reality of the not financially equality and the lack of Affordable Housing for a living minimum wage give many people new choice though theres been a problem with the city the law has turned to a machete told me stay away i almost called 2 sons of the border that there is no answer because yes that requires resource the most vulnerable are abandoned on the streets to become invisible cops. I know team no crowd. No shots. Actually helps me. Well. No 1st. Point should your thirst for action. And were back with author of best selling books the blacks wanting to fragile skin in the game a risk analyst Nassim Nicholas taleb nicholas anti fragility is achieved by decentralization you say propping up the capitalism local governments printing cute monopolies from forming strengthening links in a chain so that return it to fall is not a problem for the future do you see anyone in the world now going down that road i mean is anyone actually doing that definitely yes so let me explain what has happened if you see the reaction to the virus the lower the unit and the scale the more responsible its like the city of atlanta also met it masks much smarter than the state of georgia. So if you look at 1030 that far better than the Central Government so what happened at the bottom up process works fine for the spend the make because in their own the sauce or you know after the less you have the right. Downs were closing by themselves the minute there was a stretch so and those those who are paranoid enough to close early or escape will select this and the other subsequent diseases that they had that came later you know them shut down the town you cant go in to go up or you can go out you cant go back and so so my idea is the higher you go in the organization the worst so what is on top the most incompetent organization in history is a World Health Organization the most incompetent agree they could not understand masks that masks are symmetric like if i were a mask they said well theres no evidence this is cool naive evidence of them was it and i will publish some scientific papers explaining they dont send the military they use is mathematics thats 100 years old the north and their Scientific Understanding isnt science they say theres no evidence massport. Theres is there evidence they dont work theres no evidence that im going to have a car accident today should i not wear seat belts they dont understand so the idea that. Its not some of the higher up people should be more competent as bust the higher up the more incompetent c. C. Was incompetent United States the center for Disease Control same thing they had the same attitude towards masks where we were barking and january to say ok this is serious the world has a reservation or say or theres no evidence that this disease or a you know can trust meant for human to human. This is lunacy or generally 26. 00 so there is a World Health Organization lead to a lot of problems ok and problem except waited so if we didnt have it would be better off. And the so so so i like mama structures and im a localist so subsidiarity in other words if you cannot do it at the local level maybe you go up ok and for things like a military for things like the poet ok thats fine you dont at the top level to come to the policy or the village level but for things like water electricity and basic safety like. Leave it to the town some towns in italy decided to close to strangers others were open to let them compete whos going to do better you know facing the class of the realm of thats so this is leading people to understand locals so where is your smell in terms of. Regionalised economy because a lot of great minds and economy that have space spoken to different Different Countries theyre saying you know were going from global to regional economy to let me think were all insane nobody wants to go to where where you just you know your heart. And want to stream and do it whilst so you know no control over them so its somewhere in between so i think that the fight is between those who want say 70 percent or 75 percent say so because even if the chinese make something a lot cheaper and its no threat to you lets say ok then then start pharmaceutical ok thats fine or they can make has a from a sort of call that we use yes but you cannot have a control 100 percent some sort of hope they dont enter the well there is destruction then youre cut off from the source and so for vital sayings maybe well have a we want a world where you dont have the vital things are must be produced locally here within an area that is a racial. And non vital things who cares they say this glass of water and they can make it and whatever they want they can make it on the moon they want thats fine its a discussion thats fine i can live without the glass right but pharma no so and then there are some items and i think countries what i think. Will happen is countries will say ok we need to have stock on this this distance and that or make sure its produced locally and the rest will so impact on the general economy is going to be. Not big and summit because i really dont think anybody wants or so you dont really when hes like big slowdown in globalization you think you think things have a nicer not more going there was a sion and be more guarded in other words when i say like nobody is asian and the economic boost we got was that its partially or maybe totally or whatever it is definitely had a role in pulling a 1000000000 people out of poverty we didnt want a 1000000000 people out of poverty by sending them. Kids to study at harvard professor and she goes you know no thats not how it works or and theyre messing up their place no we say got them out of poverty thats for us asian ok bye bye having gross and one area lead to growth in another area and we had that so the saying is we dont want to mess it up we want to protect it but on the other hand an enemy where he has a say listen to any surprise they should say hey whats your problem they say well. The china makes. 95 percent of the vital drugs ok thats fine now through some here its not big deal nonvital drugs like if you want. Some kind of. Thats fine to make it but so what im saying is that if you have to make a list of things that the government will insist will not be localized the list will not be mostly larche. And then also oh the supply chains. Who are the dynamics handle them rather well i mean its not a big deal. What i think is happening now and that would be a big transformation is a physical movement of population like me traveling to wont be reduced and the Business Traveler will will not be there wont be you know as active as we saw in the past because they feel his life is over and were now you know understood that we could work with zoom and who wants to spend 3 hours in traffic area day. But you still have a Business Travel but for me to go to you know i dont mind doing so or georgia or school say once a year and i mean. Going to have my and my amenities and all these i love the feel of i dont want to go on once a year but but then spending more time there and stuff but traveling you know back in forests because theres a conference or something i will not have any more or to use myself by travel zoom will not be able to replace everything you still need people face to face ok yeah you got it i dont think that it was in any somehow right you can do it be as soon its actually so the. But but on the other hand there will be immediate reduction but i think academia is going to suffer the most in countries like United States where the thing is overall a much more. Like it so that is what one of my favorite russian near scientists at that sen negus gotta know maybe you even know her and she spoke to me recently and she goes that assert uncertainty is the most frightening thing for a human psyche and since this crisis has broadcast up to like a whole new level of uncertainty. She says these are the things that will help us through curiosity and empathy do you agree let me tell you what happened to kind of people the 1st kind of people say oh things are bad im gonna stay home and cry and wait for things to get better like for example. Who were drivers say ok theres no right or another friend of mine who was bored someone from a row he converted is a side to start a delivery service. He says people you know theyre buying food that they dont want to wait in line supermarket and so you know and its making twice as much money twice ok so some people are making. Lemonade out of lemons life because theyre a lemon i dont know how to translate its russian but theyve got to be a special like life because you remember you make lemonade and other people are suffering ok and the governors have been extremely. Health role for citizen who would have thought that the 1st socialist president s or United States would be the most trump. He gave people universal basic income for a few months and it took possession of companies if thats not socialism i dont know what is socialist ok so the so the individual got a protective nest ok that they didnt have before so it is mixed so my what im telling you is that there are bad news or good notes there are a lot of uncertainty here maybe less yet but it is makes the story is never one way when you see an event like that the 1st thing and thats a nasty fragile the 1st thing you gotta do is say how can i make lemonade out of this lemon so for example a group of friends and i were stunning a thing a sort of like maybe university thats offline events at the circus or encouraging others ok and thats a product of that and that make some for us it is a. Business creation opportunity for many it is a business her creation up her shirt but if youre is an employee of a travel Agency Anyone oh wait for think theyll come back thats not the right approach they say some people are suffering and others are going to help in any way the governments have been propping up people who you know who are desperate because they have no way to pull out of this by themselves but must wonder if you want to headline is done who would have expected the cohead to run boss no mistaken Foreign Policy code to break socialism to countries like United States in spain. Like a double pleasure talking to you because i was interested in what youre going to say but now that you have inflicted me with optimism and now i am coming out of this interview saying this is a good thing thats happening to me really good really good thing that well has been a mad man or im going to make lemonade out of this lemonade out. Thats what im going to say every morning when i wake up thank you so much its been such a pleasure and chatting to thank you thank you thank you thank you take care of yourself a great thing there really are hope to talk to you soon and would like to thank Synergy Online Forum organized by the Synergy Business School for arranging this interview thanks to you guys. Is one of the most sensational stories of our time however Media Coverage appears to be limited to learning details and political overtones the single biggest question that needs to be to answer just how all this could have happened where was long for spin will justice be served. A short time ago an american airplane. Hiroshima. Standing up kind. Of go. Through the world how one. Chin its. Like most americans growing up after the war the bombs were a great thing they ended the war they say hundreds of thousands of lives on both sides and thats what my grandfather always said was his reason for the decision. Truman was hoping for a dual strategy one was to drop the bombs and hope that japan would surrender and number 2 the americans were trying to send a message to the soviet union there was american poor planning in october 145 and had chosen 20 targets and russia. Sudden fullest and illegal takeover of a government by a small group. Rather than revolutionaries all soldiers could that small group be cool for racial when you have a tiny group of people who have all the power you have to have some means to make sure that asked of us dont get together and take it back. Please or sacrifice some places that capitalism exploited and destroyed for profit and left behind misery poverty environmental devastation and so you see things like Voter Suppression building more prisons you seem gerrymandering all sorts of undemocratic practices are well feelings of that world are well focused world and theres no question that the. Israel media a reflection of reality. In a world transformed. What will make you feel safe from. The isolation community. Are you going the right way or are you being. Direct. What is true what is faith. In the world corrupted you need to descend. To join us in the depths. Of the shallows. Our headlines this Hour International cruising fluting rescuers from russia assist in this search for survivors. 3 days after the huge explosion there 154. 00 dead. Number could grow. French president to the lebanese. Is spearheading International Aid effort questioning me the timing of his visit. Also ahead on the program chinese video sharing. May go to court. By the u. S. President. Live from moscow this is our teenager national my names you know neal hello and welcome to the program. The search is ongoing for survivors following choose these deadly explosion in beirut the death toll has now reached 154 with 5000 injured several countries including russia. Crews to the lebanese capital to assist in the rescue effort. Reports from the scene of the tragedy. As russian rescuers are getting down to well what they have been flown in here for i want you to just look around and let something sink in about the sheer and ultimate demolition power behind this explosion we are in the very epicenter as close as a 1000000000 can get look closely under my feet i do apologize for my dirty sneakers but look closely because im not stepping on dirt or sand or anything this is actually cool and seeds of cooling from this massive towering reserve which is no more because of the bluster and this is the very 1st site where russian rescuers are searching for survivors. They are telling me that they are ready to work overnight if theres any possibility of finding somebody alive. This is a Field Hospital in its early stages it is just being built in fact theres another group of emergency workers on the way with more infrastructure but this is where russian rescuers will be taking those injured those still in need of medical attention from after the blast. Fairly extremely lucky to be our lives actually because i cant i cant i cant forget the explosions the sound the visuals in front of my eyes well and then i literally saw the body parts of people fall. To me and all people screaming. Kids screaming but if its. I saw it and i saw today. I went towards people and told them we should not be here at that moment i turned around and i was he by something in my right hand thats when the big explosions started it threw me to the ground well everything that you can see around me was erected overnight it was literally an empty lot well fast forward 6 hours and well theres already a small tent city here. Well these are the search dogs have been traveling with me rather i was with them and they will be sniffing out those who may be still trapped under the law under the rubble the city of be roots is devastated morally physically financially in fact of all places that i have a being too apart from acts of war zones of course this one with all the rubble destruction and vehicles just abandoned at the side of the road resembles a scene from a postapocalyptic movie the most and the russian 8 f. Aims here at relieving at least some of the pain i mean don of reporting from beirut in lebanon. Well given the sheer scale of the destruction groups of volunteers are also assisting with the cleanup in beirut for clearing away debris from apartments causes for some locals the day of the blast was meant to be a big event for a very different reason heres the moment a wedding ceremony on tuesday healthy and. Theo was. One of the credible scenes well french president among all mccrackens in lebanon where hes held talks with top officials and called for an International Investigation into the calls up explosion somebody or questioning the french leaders real motives Charlotte Dubin ski reports. To wall coverage in 10 nationally of michaels visit to beirut he swooped into the lebanese capital in the aftermath of tuesdays devastating explosion its rival came to live tales of french rescue with this who is said that to help with those would be its on the beat to find any survivors home of those lost on tuesday now some say you feel sick a week of being too sort of existing report that sort of influence it runs on a country that is so cool but for which cause others have said he sees the rules state this is the 1st foreign leader to make a visit and then do people i know who you never see again simply function its not so much the same time we do the emergency. We need a new Political Initiative and im here to bring her good to coordinate we look your plan an International Mission to bring money on and directly to people but to of those aside we have to launch a new Political Initiative to change. What you do that well as he waded through those massive crowds there was a particularly poignant moment when he hugged a woman and he said to her i can feel your pain but that moment also led some to question what his real motives were for being in beirut summit. Opposition politicians here in france have been scathing about that visit describing it as a one man arab show and others suggesting hes treating lebanon as if its still a french colony france support for the lebanese people in this strategy is indisputable or the other hand the arrogant and moralizing one man show in which a man who has performed today in beirut is in descent barely arrived in lebanon macron takes himself for the president of the lebanese republic he preaches and claims all by himself to organize european and International Corporation the immense misfortune of some reveals the great vanity of others now president mcauliffe for his point of view said he would never deigned to interfere in lebanese politics but almost in the same breath he said that he would be talking to political leaders in lebanon and he would be holding. Cant he also said that this visit due to have a geo political angle because it was a front step was that it would be turkey iran or saudi arabia and according to him very interests would be to the detriment of the lebanese people but now that visit by president macaroni is being welcomed the aid that hes promised is being welcomed but the reality is when he turned his back here to france hes fighting many battles here with his un popular mandate in france the reality is it was means to be seen whether those promises be to. The lebanese capital meanwhile has also seen more public unrest directed against its own Government People are unhappy about the economic crisis gripping the those feelings of a to perceive government incompetence which some claim led to choose this tragedy during the latest protest Police Used Tear Gas to force the crowd back. Ok lets move on to another of our headline stories today chinese video sharing our tech talks a zip code go to court over u. S. Sanctions donald trump issued 2 executive orders on thursday banning all transactions with the owners of tech talk and we chart those restrictions will take effect next month. The spread in the United States of. Developed and owned by companies in the peoples republic of china continues to threaten the National Security Foreign Policy and economy of the United States youre going to see year the Relevant Enterprises carry out Business Activities in the u. S. In accordance with market principles and International Rules and abide by u. S. Laws and regulations under the pretext of National Security the us frequently abuses its state power and unjustifiably cracks down on nonu. S. Companies this is a blatant act of bullying in china is firmly opposed to it took to our cars been in the trump team side for a while earlier the president warned people who use the up their data could end up in the hands of chinese are thora to eat mr trouble so threaten to burn tech talks u. S. Operations are less they are sold to an American Firm microsoft is currently considering a buy it yourself talk user is helping reacting to this. The internet would be banned in the u. S. So you guys we have a dilemma and hearing that take up might be behind in america and this is the problem i just started becoming famous and i only have 100 followers dont you have like shifty 1000000 followers or ticks are. More of basics are to youre going to get a regular joe or benjamin a professor the parra school of business sees the allegations of chinese digital spying dont go to. The trouble and this notion has provided no specific evidence that that has made available to the Chinese Government on the other hand snowden the view that the us has a Mass Surveillance Program the most notorious or is the Prism Program which has to surface of several Technology Giants in the states from ones ticked up to be out as soon as possible because it is so close to the u. S. President ial election and the take to use as a mainly under 30 who do not support trying much short sighted behavior may harm American Companies eventually because it sets a dangerous precedent of seizing Foreign Investment through Law Enforcement departments opening the door for other countries to treat American Companies in the same way also the courage is future Foreign Investment in the states. The u. S. State department has issued a new report in which it accuses russia of waging a decision from ation own Propaganda Campaign employing a variety of methods among those is the use of kremlin controlled news outlets to push moscows message Saskia Taylor digs a little deeper into the story ina. 3 months until the election a virus cool thing up through the country an ailing economy and a future without tech talk americas got its hands full but it will still find the time and the cash to do a deep dive into russian descent information. The kremlin has direct responsibility for cultivating these tactics and platforms as part of its approach to using information as a weapon it invests massively in its propaganda channels its Intelligence Services and its proxies to conduct malicious cyber activity to support the dissent from ation efforts and it leverages outlets that masquerade as news sites Research Institutions to spread these false and misleading narratives a new report by the state department has 0 day in on russias complex network of fake news and propaganda and basically it tuns out like some kind of new octopus there are 5 to russias this information ecosystem from the government itself to social media but the one that gets the most attention are news sites which apparently are really busy peddling conspiracy theories but we would never suspect them of being nefarious 20300000 monthly views a wide range of political topics on a fairly quiet twitter account but no it turns out its all. The kremlin in disguise. We found that they promote this information in support of the kremlins goals theyre often promoted directly by the russian government and the push specific disinformation narratives that are picked up by other parts of the ecosystem how intriguing some might say tell me more of this would cry well the state Department Might say theres no hesitancy of direct ties with moscow but heres an unrelated example of an alternative news story to stop you from asking questions the head of Global Research has written many articles on co read 19 containing dissin for me shewn one of them that was published back in march the headline of this is covered 19 coronavirus if a pandemic whos behind it Global Economic social and political destabilisation so from that have line calling it a fig pandemic i think we all recognize its not a free pandemic its real you know now that i think about it i know the perfect person could contribute to the site it will go away if you stay current view this is the same as the flu a lot of people think that goes away in april with the heat rather. Theyre politicizing it the report also says that the same site suggests that corona virus was manmade in a bio fell apart tree you know now that i think about it i know im not the person who would just be an invaluable member of this Websites Team i can tell you that there is a significant amount of evidence that this came from the laboratory. With the u. S. Backing so many problems you could ask why release the report now while it could be a coincidence saw not but last week secretary of state might compare one with the begging bowl before Congress Asking for a significant increase in funding for the g e c which happens to be the author of this report. The state departments efforts on 21. 00 requests for the Global Engagement center is 138000000. 00 more than double its current level we wont tolerate this information and other propaganda directed by the kremlin or any of our other adversaries double the budget for the sake of a handful of relatively unknown news sites operating 200000 months of us while solid reasoning all i can say is pump a was going to have to get a much bigger ball when he sets his sights on ati with that its not a competition of course but 130000000. 00 monthly pos but my total take oh no hes willing to give to the state departments rewards for Justice Program is offering a reward of up to 10000000. 00 for information leading to the identification or location of any person who acting at the direction for under the control of a Foreign Government interferes with us elections so mike tell me whats a gal gotta do to get back on not 10000000. Still ahead on our Team International the u. K. Opposition calls for a probe into the governments purchase of 50000000 on the use of both face masks we get into the story more to the right. Is your media a reflection of reality. In a world transformed. What will make you feel safe. Isolation community. Are you going the right way or are you being led. By. What is true whats his face. In the world corrupted you need to descend. To join us in the depths. Aura made in the shallowness. Join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and ill be speaking to guests of the world of politics sports business im show business ill see you then. Youre back with our to international the British Government says it will not speed using 50000000. 00 facemasks that its bought for medics during the punt and because of concerns they might be on safe the admission sparked calls from the Opposition Labor Party for an urgent inquiry into the way contracts for essential supplies were founded on. For months we were told that the government was purchasing the right equipment for the front line its again it hasnt happened the needs now to be an investigation an inquiry into what went wrong with this particular contract because its just not good enough to people who need that protective equipment that we find ourselves in this position big figures involved the masks were part of a 252000000 pound contract the government signed with Investment Firm capital back in april but its transpired they have ear loops rather than head loops and may not fit tightly enough another 150000000 masks solve a different type supplied by a under are still being tested by minister Boris Johnson says hes very disappointed that the shipment was on unusable we spoke to me only belle it naomis a nurse whos been working on the frontline about this situation. I have actually worked in areas where they was no. Silicon abbey abs where i was arcs to reuse my face ma and they would be sure to use as aprons i would like to see the government ensure that there is a good supply chain and the salt short men issues are dealt with now the government cant just put us in the front line and expect us to be watching its very its very stressful and i just hope that they do the right feet obviously theyve made lots of errors and im just hoping that Going Forward they can do the right thing to protect us so that we can protect our patients meanwhile its been revealed that local councils helping granted new powers to demolish buildings and even homes infected with coronavirus its part of a package of measures in the applying them to enforce local law dons Prime Minister johnson sais he is determined to avoid a 2nd nationwide lockdown at all costs we get reaction from people in the u. K. I just think that it is a little heavy handed. Over to fill in this day and age it would be easier to write actually sanitize somewhere rather than knock it down. Seems wasteful it doesnt seem resourceful vaccines and. You know youd think thered be something more scientific that would help rather than demolishing buildings which i think can help is there in any way its absolutely ridiculous you know extreme powers to demolish buildings you know. Mixed messages i mean the message youd be mixed all the way its very. Easy to. Say perhaps. Lets bring the program to south america were bolivia celebrated its Independence Day on thursday the country was gripped by protests over delayed or. Elections the photo has been put off twice already because of colbert 19 the interim president jeanine and he is i was previously stressed the health risks of holding a vote but she accuses the bolivian election body of playing with dates she took to twitter to point out that she still thing to do with the latest decision. Will be respected at the same time the government tells the nuns the ongoing protest it say is they pose a danger to Public Health and safety. Is former leader even morale is of inciting them a little quarter picks up the story. When it comes to combating potential Election Fraud donald trump seems to have a solution suspend the elections altogether and while thats caused quite a fuss in the United States the prou. S. Interim government in bolivia has successfully used that strategy twice just see for yourself how the opposition feels about it. And. The people are demonstrating taking to the streets and calling for elections now because we are seeing the inability of the self appointed president who is bankrupt and the country was going to have young people of coolness to go into Hunger Strike until the government calls elections we no longer want to wait we want to actions now the court cited the covert 900 pandemic as the reason for the delay now while there are rising infections in the country its nowhere near to the same level as bolivias hard hit neighbors like brazil chile and peru and the postponement has really struck a nerve with the public who have been in political limbo since the last election. It. Is the most to lose if we dont. Like. It was the 1st step towards free and Fair Elections as prescribed by washington. All countries deserve free fair transparent and Credible Elections the oas official report on bolivia makes it clear that bolivians were not given this chance stop the violence hold elections and work with janine annas and the Transitional Government to bring democracy back so the new president janine 9 years had one job to hold a new vote. Its merely a transitional period we will call for elections with honorable people they will carry out an electoral process that reflects the will and sentiment of all bolivians the interim government was supposed to hold new elections 90 days after taking power instead on us has been president now for almost a year with no signs of returning to the ballot box she also said she wouldnt run for president in the next election but since her an egg on that and her reputation as bolivias caretaker has been far from spotless. Various Foreign Ministers describe tell east containing their home interests his telephone Numbers Family addresses and other personal information are being circulated viable facebook and other social media. It has also been publicly reported that the lifeless bodies of several people who were killed in the massacre disappeared allegedly after being collected by Law Enforcement officers and no further information has scenes been provided to them. All the while it doesnt even seem like the libyans really support the interim government polls are showing that another election would mean victory for morale a says movement for Socialism Party perhaps its just another read. And why for the interim government if there is no election there is no problem and yes it is the neo liberal puppet the unelected cater that imperialist countries won in libya theyre afraid of a return of able more out of this of the Movement Toward socialism the m. E. s is kennedy are staying with defeat and yes or no coup mongering this so thats why they continue to use coal the night seen as an excuse they know i mean its not when shes not popular with the oas its in the nicest government talk about free elections of course that talking about their candidates leading in the polls and in winning in with their rubber stamps yes men and women like. Income i still are not in and can not see elections and they come up with every excuse to postpone. 27 minutes past the hour time for discussion debate next the latest cross talk with host peter is right ahead live from moscow this is r. T. International. Thinking of getting a new phone the ones we got in her shell come out why does he know its still trapped in this tiny little wired coach be going near the crate with the wall. Reaching out into the wall when its pretty much anywhere near. 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Hello and welcome to cross talk were all things are considered computer enough the mc maxwell study is one of the most sensational stories of our time however Media Coverage appears. To be limited to blur details and political overtones the single biggest question that needs to be answered is how all of this could have happened where was Law Enforcement and will justice be finally served. To discuss this and more im joined by my guest now is chris of oro and athens hes the director of the doran dot com and in milwaukee we have jennifer to master she is a federal law and compliance attorney or across up rules and in fact that means you can jump in in time you want to know how was real