And the reality is once we figured out at least in this part of the country what a catastrophe this virus could be if you didnt get ahead of it we actually watched slowly as a company as a country rather reopened and with this people say you know what ive been locked up in my studio my home here in florida or texas or arizona or wherever for months and nothings happening im going to go out and now theyve opened up a bar or i can go hang out with my friends that are at a rave party ill start doing that whereas in europe the population said my goodness we barely got through that that was close now there were open because they open that we opened were not going to do foolish things were not going to create these mass spreader events where blossom people get infected all at once from one person who should be at the party and for that reason theyve got 10 percent of the pokes infected that we have now theres lots of good news about whats going on with over 1000 on the science front well get to that but it is very core thats what i believe happened that we got sloppy. Would you say the leadership rooting President Trump has not been on top of this. Its the country itself doesnt like being barked too i think a lot of times when we get one stop solutions for everything and we decide ok the entire country is shutting down you create this this sense that weve paid our price and i think of all the things i could focus on the fact that we didnt have adequate testing back in march major mistake that many can own the fact that we shut the entire country down at once i think well look back and say that was an error because theres some part of the country that had not been hard hit and maybe quarantining present will this part of the country selectively would have been wiser turns out that a that press far as we can tell the infection is especially that are being suffered in texas and florida came primarily from new york and then i think as we open the country up again there wasnt a serious enough endeavor to ensure the specially young people realize that the 1st time around you were really at risk as a virus wasnt that much present where you happen to live but now its coming for you so yeah go to work yeah go out go guy buy some food but dont be sloppy in this the the minute the minute decisions youre making as a good example are masks i dont stay with the argument about masks masks are about freedom theyre about the freedom for me to go back to school or for my son to go back to school because you know hes a senior harvard they just canceled it on campus classes and hes a water polo player for the varsity there that all got cancer because every Ivy League School canceled their fall sports and im sure thats going to happen around the rest of the country both those actions crossing of classes and of sports what wouldve prevented that maybe a mask could help because max play a dramatic role in reducing the infected this of this virus. Thats who i meant by the president poorly in this bike staying away from saying that was political when you said it was for leadership when you mix politics with medicine you get politics and were seeing that played out in spades i dont think that any of these issues of political issues i know why they become political but as a physician my job is to tell people the truth best i can you may not like me for telling you the truth but thats our charge and i think a little bit more of that professional mindset will be valuable across the board. The president says we have the best testing in the world. What today we actually do have great testing unfortunately we only started using it aggressively in some of the areas where there was already widespread virus and i also think that because of the magnitude of cases we have were are able to keep up certainly with the running of the task even though people can get tested it can take them 5 days to get a result back which means for 5 days youre not sure if that little cough you had is coded 1000 need to quarantine or was it nothing because it got better the next day and you can go back to work and so people go back to work and we just have dated just this week that the c. D. C. Conducted looking at how many people are enter body positive for cope with 1000 in other words theyve had the infection and this data is stunning they were at the 10 geographically diverse u. S. Cities and on average 10 times more people have had the infection then knew it 10 times more and that means that there are a lot of folks who went unreported or soror undetected cases which means there was silent transmission that most people who got sick where without realizing it infectious probably scoping out spreading it not appreciating that the lack of fever or lack of a cop doesnt mean youre safe to go around and just in case you think hey maybe with the good news is well get close to herd immunity unfortunately herd immunity numbers at best are in the 20 to 30 percent range of the population and more likely higher than 50 percent so were not even close because if it in the most infected areas like where i am in new york. Were not close to those numbers yet in new york states probably 7 percent of the population has been exposed to the virus already. Surprised to see in certain areas babies getting it not surprise babies are getting this virus and most viruses children are exposed and some especially legs influenza they tend to be hard hit this virus tends to spare Young Children which is a good experience i think for most parents because we have plenty to worry about without having to worry about a Young Children and so the 1st case in france was reported of a mother who was infected the baby was delivered by c. Section and the child had covert 19 thankfully did well to as did the mother and my hope is that will continue to be. Blessed by not having Young Children pay a big price for getting this virus that benefit tends to wear off by the time you get to the teen years and certainly into the twentys and thirtys. You said were seeing some Building Blocks that are obese lets examine if you watched deck some of the song thats the method zone is a steroids and people used their oids probably a comparable for allergies or for rashes you get them in skin creams but when you give it in high doses you actually slow down and turn off the immune system of the body why would you do that well if theres an auto immune reaction to something if youre over reacting to it in faction this Collateral Damage to your own cells to your own tissue you dont want that so covert going team we believe kills sometimes because of the virus but more often from the overreaction of the body to the virus so a lot of people dying dont have it have virus in them they just have overreacted inflamed body thats destroying the tissue and closing off blood vessels so dex and meth is own and now we just found out in the last 24 hours steroids and other types are remarkably effective at blocking that overreaction of the main system in saving lives and United Kingdom and also here in montefiore there were large studies done looking at getting many patients. Deter it turns out that you can alter the injuries to the long caused by inflammation if you give these steroids at the right time now you get one check something called c. Reactive protein or c r p its a its a chemical protein produced in the liver that reflects the information the body but if its elevated giving steroids reduced the risk of having to be on a ventilator mechanical breathing tube or dying by 75 percent so the right there a p. At the right dose in the right patient given at the right time of course and all those can be done now that were getting some data that understands that more about the process can save lives. What do you make of eddie immune therapy is being used successfully in many Cancer Patients what its an interesting reality that the immune system can help you when used appropriately and can hurt you when its not so you actually want to use your troops your immune system appropriately and when then when theyre out there attacking tissues that are not supposed to be attacked because youre the innocent bystanders so to speak then you can cause more damage than good and many illnesses hurt us because our bodies creating a civil war in itself is supposed to be in a more targeted way attacking the bad guy cancers can do this so can auto immune ailments. Were about cannabis cadmus fascinating opportunity here it turns out cannabis does sort of reduce that overreaction of the immune system there may be some direct antiviral benefits of one of the oldest medications we know which is cannabis and just recently there was a study done in mice at the Middle College of georgia where they looked they looked at lung injury that they created mimicking covert 19 and they could slow it down or even actually stop it by using c. B. D. So because its got a pretty safe profile there are a lot of scientists interested in trying to trying it out in humans its a its a bit of a way from that early experience and in rodents to humans though so i would start taking c. B. D. Just in case. What about interest in inhaled protein call interest for iran it gets beta tested by 100. Patients in the United Kingdom successfully so interferon is a protein that directs the immune system of where to attack its like putting a general in your body and saying immune system go attack those bad guys over there but dont bother these good guys your lung cells for example over here and when youre on his present present in the right time he can make sure the that the immune system is protecting you appropriately and thats what this trial seems to hit now its not published yet. No manuscript to but the researchers were so excited and it was that of a bunch of centers in the United Kingdom that they decided to publish the data so that other scientists could begin pursuing it the nice thing is that we already have interferon is already being used clinically unlike some of the other drugs like the dexa method zone another steroids we repurpose seeing over ready approved drugs for new indications which means its got a safer profile to it or the top drug makers ship it before congress we might have a vaccine by early next year where you think well i tell you im excited these companies theyre all large Multinational Pharmaceutical Companies have partnered up with Academic Centers so oxford got a partner with astra zeneca. But there has got a partner and pfizers got a drug and theyre all making Different Solutions to vaccines theres 2 basic times theres than the new fangled approaches primarily m r n a where theyre making a little bit of the r. N. A. Of the spike protein of the virus the part thats but penetrates in dear cells to infect you and theyre getting your body to to replicate that little protein so that we can develop an immune reaction to it so if we ever see a virus come into our body can attack it immediately thats new it there have been tried before weve got 2 major initiatives along those lines and they both seem to provide a lot of encouraging early data where you having antibodies created and a belief that these anybody levels are maintained youll be protected the Old Fashioned approach is to take a virus thats already weakened. 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But politicking im talking with dr mehmet oz cardiothoracic surgeon and host of the dr oz show he joins me from new jersey the chief physicians for the state of delaware dr rick pesca to what was on this program earlier he said the confusion and misinformation surrounding cold it is nearly as significant as the Public Health concern of the virus itself what are your thoughts why i grew up in delaware so all i feel obliged to support a statement but i actually think its true and i think a lot of folks are now turning to secondary sources of advice because they dont think they can get the truth from wherever they normally get their information as it is a complicated area thats the fog of war where people are still trying to figure out what to do in the middle of the of the battle and i dont think its rare that this happens but this is for most americans the 1st time theyve witnessed it in their own eyes i think at a high level it reflects the fact that our Public Health system has been underfunded and we allow it to go to weed so to speak so that we dont have the kinds of robust systems for identifying people who are ill and tracing people make infected them or they may have infected and thats one of the reasons countries like germany and korea have been able to tame this fire especially for rapidly than we have the good news is now that weve identified the need for more of a federal program that organizes these resources i think theres a theres a will theres an awareness that it is something we need to do and we will do it. We have some questions from those in the audience bryson knocks on facebook when should we expect a vaccine for this if there is one made how can you convince people to take it to so many nonbelievers in vaccine. I believe will have a vaccine early next year ive had guests like peter hotez is the famed vaccine researcher down in texas childers and in houston who believes he wont have until the 3rd quarter and he says thats a land speed record by itself because vaccines usually take 4 to 5 years to develop but lets just say sometime in the 1st half of next year we have a vaccine is widely available then the question is will people take it a one of the knocks on the vaccine is if it normally takes 5 years and you made it less than a year then you must a rushed so by cutting corners are you exposing d us to side effects i dont think with 30000 people being involved in these trials that will take at least 6 months before we have comfort levels that its safe there were taking a big risk but yeah there any vaccine as a risk associated with it and we wont know for years and years but i believe most americans in the data supports this would take the vaccine about a 3rd would not but im not sure we can address their concerns all that readily anyway theyll be different kinds of vaccines so they can pick the one they like the most but heres the big news larry we dont have to have everyone vaccinated we need to get high risk people vaccinated the vulnerable population the folks who are overweight diabetic hypertensive theyre the ones who pay the ultimate price if they get sick and we also need to make sure we get at least 60 percent of the population vaccinated that way we start to approach herd immunity numbers is not perfect id rather have 90 percent vaccinated but at least if we get 2 thirds of the population vaccinated the ability the virus to spread wildly in our communities will be mitigated. What do you make of the end and the Vaccine Movement its a powerful movement ive been talking to folks who are anti vacs on my show dying tire career the interesting reale. Is that most people go to the Doctors Office the doctor spends a lot of time trying to explain a vaccine but they never really hear the questions that are raised in the anti vax community ive always argued that the American Academy of pediatrics should put a poster in every Doctors Office saying heres the top 10 reasons why you should not get a vaccine and then debunk the ones that are often brought up because they dont really have merit there are some realities though as i spoke to earlier theres no way you can say if you give 100000000 people or 3000000000 people a vaccine youre going to have 0 complications and the thing is Strong Enough to help you are Strong Enough to hurt you i just think the benefits especially as i mean like over 1000 of getting vaccinated are so much greater than the potential side effects that its a wise move to make for yourself your family in your community. Mark foley on twitter dr oz would you recommend plastic shields for the face if you dont like wearing a mask i think a plastic shield makes sense i dont think the benefit of a shield and the mask is worth it for most people if youre in a really crowded environment if youre high risk and vulnerable yeah its the belt and suspenders approach to protect your eyes. Marcel from a brick on face book regarding the mass we are now forced to wear how does one get the fresh oxygen needed if one is constantly breathing in the carbon dioxide. So ive actually done an experiment on myself for the show to demonstrate that if you put a mask on and wear it appropriately that your actions saturation in your finger does not change and thats a saturation we used to measure whether or not you have enough oxygen your body when you whether you have copd 1000 or any other illness also as a heart surgeon ill tell you i wear masks all day long and if i couldnt exchange air so that i could focus on delicate heart surgery itll be a problem so yeah you have to learn to breathe wi