The United States of america real work like the kind that black labs matter activists and defund the police proponents are doing right now just outside city hall in new york city dug to occupy city hall protesters have taken over the City Hall Park with the New York Times noting that what started on a patch of lawn in a few square feet has now taken over most of the park and drawn extensive attention across social media they have one goal and one goal only to defund the new York City Police department to the tune of 1000000000. 00. And its there in the heart of the real fight for justice and equality we start watching the horrors. She wanted whats going on a city in the streets you want to see. It is so you like to see the rises the joys of state and City Employees drone strikes mass graves city displays systemic deception is to late show which days i will be so when the guild is. Welcome i want to watch a lot i robot and im in the crowd and joining us today to discuss new york citys occupy City Hall Movement is jamie tiber good director of development for new york citys new york communities for change thank you so much for joining us jamie a pleasure to have you on thanks for having me on today occupy city hall is demanding a 1000000000. 00 taken off the new York City PoliceDepartment Budget that is actually not as big of a mask as one of the magic was given that the n. Y. P. D. Budget sits around 11000000000 jamie is there a deadline for theres the funding that youre calling for and where should this money be reallocated if it is indeed taken out of the Police Payroll or Police Budgets. Yes a the budget vote is actually happening right now and in fact yesterday we got news that the mayor and the speaker of the council cory johnson have made a backroom deal but its simply resell flows 1000000000 dollar best from the n. Y. P. D. And actually just scouts is that under the department of education knowing that there are schools out cops and 1st. And jamie what if the mayor de blasio and other city officials response to your presence and city hall and the protest the mans. Yes so the response to city hall has been i mean i would say i was unresponsive. You know i think they tried to have a meeting with some of the people on site and that meeting request was rejected and the people on site simply said you know i the mans you know we want you to be allocated a budget we know we are you know that we want to do it. Or rather we know that you need to defund the n. Y. P. D. And so they refused to meet with them. And people have also been self organizing and different actions outside of individual City Council Members as well as the speaker and the mayor and i mean we havent seen them we havent heard from them i mean they will tweet a little bit here and there nominally supporting it but you know if we get them in person and say you know well you. Actually vote no on a budget that doesnt reflect their demands. Theres no nuance or you know since this push for true justice and equality began with the murder of George Foreman weve been fighting for a much longer than the present is really took you know really took momentum in the last few months weve seen brutal footage come out of new york city especially in recent weeks and their treatment of black lives matter protesters and other activists simply all marching what has been the Police Reaction to you know your occupied group so far all of a hamburger grows. The i mean. Its a defense 2 different questions right how have they been in general versus how are they with the people out there encampment i mean when the protests 1st the enemy they were incredibly aggressive. All of the protests were peaceful or they would at least be good and peaceful until a cop. So it and what escalates there would be undercover cops actually trying to escalate among people d. And in fact. An incarcerated person over at metropolitan Detention Center and some some park jamelle florida was pepper sprayed to death during the protests which then sparks another wave of protest. And we are also completely unaware of the people that they did not usually you know when theres a big protest people are at least aware of their friends or loved ones that have ended up being arrested and they know you know which. Is so easy that theyre being held as they are at least supposed to or theyre at least able to have some sort of contact with them right now we have the protesters and we dont know where they are being held when theyre going to get out what sort of conditions there and and this is in the middle of a pandemic. Is the word could there by the way because were with these people are all out there practicing their 1st amendment right to protest and the Police Response solutions but deplorable she believes. And jamie judging by everything thats going on on the ground do you think youll stay past the june 30th deadline if the city chooses not to be fun and why p. D. What would your next steps look like. No thats really for people to decide and i think we will know better what are the spawn should be after tomorrow were hearing that a new budget will be proposed 11 am tomorrow i dont really know what its going to reflect or whether theyre listening to any of the people that are you know protesting them you know there were individual actions last night there were some today there will be more tonight. I dont know whether the actual split the calling camp land will remain. But the work will you know or continue i mean before any of the called is read them all of which is the campaigns not only for leon criminalized survivors being held in the north jails and prisons but anyone because we dont believe the prisons that exist and theres also a campaign to cancel rents because we do not believe bob cross private property should exist there is no them campaign to fight cried the pipeline from being built new york so all of that work is connected all of that work will continue rather the actual physical and kampman will remain its up to the people really jammy how difficult has it has this you know occupy style protest been to organize and keep going in new york and what would your advice be to others who may want to follow in your free speech what steps and say in other cities across the country and their efforts to try to beef on the police you know do these encampments with these occupy style protest work and how difficult are they to kind of get everyone together and get everyone on the same page. I mean i think whats important to remember inside this ng cant win is just one of the men to talk with that are happening parallel and simultaneously i think one good thing about an encampment and i you think the term encampment instead of occupation because. There was a teachin at city hall where folks talked about the colonization and the fact that you know every inch of the United States is occupied territory and why the term occupy is a bit of a problem and so to respect those wishes of people on site im using encampment i think the plus side of an encampment is that we are physically there outside of city hall and so they simply cannot ignore us they cannot say that no one cared they cannot say that people didnt demand them of something. I think it was easier for new york. As quickly as it did because we do have a history of encampments here in new york of course most notably occupy wall street but even after that and before that there were smaller encampments you know outside of Governor Cuomo those office or wells fargo betting during the walk protests. And so there were already i think a network of people who you know how those set of infrastructure who were aware of you know laws like street laws sound laws so that we would be abiding by you know at least some sort of like wallace so that there is no unnecessary reason for the police to escalate. And you know different people all the nearby offering their bathrooms offering there are you know lobbies i think a lot of this was possible because we had already such a good infrastructure so joe support during the protests i mean people even have port a potties that they were able to donate to. So i think my take would be that for other places that might want to take this on or model themselves after you know really think about whether its strategic use of your time. And what sort of escalation are you trying to do is you know a location like city hall youve been very little to do. You know do you have a good number of people who can get the word out and mobilize people are there enough networks that are organized to be able to sustain it and at the answers to those questions i know i would i think you know advise against it and focus on other types of very an occupation part it is very sound and sage advice and thank you so much for all the good work youre doing out there once again jamie tiber thank you so much. All right as we go to break remember that you can also start watching the hawks on the manager of the brand new portable t. V. App which is available now on all platforms you have no excuse but to get it coming up a major cross bridge the st louis mayors dangerous response to the Defund Police movement and her city of men are to America Rachel brother blevins brings us the latest on the controversy and questions surrounding russian bounties in afghanistan boys dont want to miss this stay tuned to watch in the whole. We go to work. Straight home. 54 jets and more than 1300 military personnel are headed to air force base in all. Ask where is that to say come on ill show you whats the reason for any type of enhanced u. S. Military presence in this area rush up. What is it suddenly about the South China Sea that makes it so that it 11000000000 barrels of oil. Take a look at this map who really owns what kind of says no it belongs to us india says no we claim that that belongs to us both of these countries have Nuclear Weapons capabilities there is reason for concern so thats why were going to drill down on this story for you today right here on the news with rick sanchez where you know as we always like to say we do believe by golly its time to do news again. But a quick History Lesson in economics you know people talk about socialism what is socialism this is idea that labor has value and that people want to take part and the means of production. Starting in the 1980 s. That became obsolete because all wealth was tied to money printing today and 2020 so that would be 40 years later than the 1st socalled activists and labor rights activists and workers are they getting out that the problem is not about the means of production the problem is the money printers and theyre taking. The. Street is to understand. Understanding the present. Because a lot of history steve. So how should we find the right. Calls to deep on the police are melting with protesters across the u. S. Making moves to show not only how Brutal Police interactions often are with blacks but also how much city budgets over spend on Police Departments in the wake of George Floyds death at the hands of Minneapolis Police just last month protestors are calling for changes in Police Behavior and advocating for something many find a bit more radical defunding the police or cutting the budgets and reallocating some police function to social Services Health and Economic Development some cities are answering the call new york mayor bill de blasio pledged to shift in y. P. Budget to houston and social Services Los Angeles mayor Eric Garcetti bouts of call 150000000. 00 from the l. A. P. D. To Fund Health Care jobs and peace and others philadelphia canceled a planned at 19000000. 00 increase for the Police Department and shifted 14000000. 00 of the Police Budget elsewhere including Affordable Housing but not every city is welcome the shift in police funds st Louis Missouri is on the decent in a big way st louis mayor little cruising with full on race stoking the flames of hate and putting a target on the backs of protesters in a Facebook Live appearance seen by thousands crewdson was asked about a meeting shed had with protesters at city hall after grabbing papers and reading through a litany of activist requests she became agitated at how they wanted Police Budget spent crewdson went on to announce the names and home addresses of those seeking to defund the police the video has since come down and kristen has apologized after the a. C. L. U. Civil Rights Groups activists and elected officials far and wide condemned her if its so wrong to ask that 15000000. 00 go to nonprofits with a history of Violence Reduction like your violence is it wrong to ask that 60000000 go to health and Human Services apparently mayor cruz and police and castigated protesters who met her with earnest to reach middle ground in the resources communities meet the most instead of hearing them out in meeting them where they were she decided to declare war against. I mean is this the age of the idiot politician because i. Do Something Like i remember when politicians used to be afraid to offend the popular member when they used to be like i dont want to say this word because that might be offense or i dont want to do this stupid thing because i dont want to now it seems like oh no youre absolutely correct parties have gotten way too powerful and elected officials arent necessarily as afraid of the public as they probably used to be when it came to them getting removed at the ballot box so were seeing them go all out and do things that we probably wouldnt seen just a few years ago gerrymandering ladies and gentlemen thats how you get politicians not afraid of losing elections you know ive been there why is the from the police scene is so radical why is this being seen as like some major insane crazy thing by by a small section of the public and elected officials because of the narrative the American Public and some elected officials have developed around policing the idea is this law and order capitalism type society where people are ok with blowing up Police Budgets because they assume that this is for the safety of the community what we know is that over the past 1520 years Violent Crime has gone down dramatically and there is no correlation with the extra cost of Police Budgets to the reduction of Violent Crime what we have seen is the areas that have Strong Health and Human Services areas that have hospitals clinics Strong Mental Health support areas that have afterschool programs that young people can get involved in areas with strong Economic Development typically dont have high rates of violence we know that so its not the the influx of Police Budgets or paying them or putting more into the budgets and be mindful its not for the police themselves when the secondary argument is youre taking money from Police Officers who are putting their lives on the line with the bloated Police Budgets and the increase in those Police Budgets Police Officers themselves have not seen increases in their salaries so this isnt going to pay the Police Officer little bait and switch or its like oh youre going to hurt them down. Actually you know theyre going to be where they were you know another thing to add on to that too that i think would help curb violence across the board and justify and get rid of the bloated Police Budgets that were seeing is why dont we the war on drugs at this point why dont we decriminalize and the war on drugs because look most gang right Gang Violence points to chicago where theres always been people being killed over again but if you have the war on drugs then theres no more violence because the ones up the fight over anything you know you get rid of that section of the shadow economy and youre absolutely correct what people fail to realize is that a lot of the bloated budgets were seeing now are part and parcel of the world drugs there was so much money millions billions in some cases thrown at cities to combat the war on drugs specifically for low level and in many cases nonViolent Crimes and youre talking about people who had small small possession of weed and we see that these bloated budgets continued and its frustrating because even though were now were in this era of criminal Justice Reform theres still a mindset that we should fund these budgets at astronomical rates and its something that a lot of people get an easy about when you talk about reallocating that funding to anything it runs a lot of like how they talk about the Defense Department oh no you cant take any money away from this and that hurts that we only see the world through the you know you were saying earlier today that most crimes are never actually reported to police and crimes are very rarely solved actually this is the interesting part so we talk about Violent Crime going down Violent Crime has gone down by 51 percent since 1993 but so Public Perception has never really matched the data beyond that most crimes most even Violent Crimes are not actually ever reported to the police only 43 percent are in those crimes less than 46 percent of all crimes reported to the police are ever cleared so the police are actually capturing anyone and they are actually really solving or getting to the bottom of the majority of things that they are actually called for so the idea that there is some law and order. Behind the policing departments is a fallacy once you pay. Go back the onion and look at the data that is so true and what really also kind of bothers me this too as i understand as well police are also put under that pressure show me results politicians always run on tough on crime if you dont show me the results then were going to cut your budget going to cut so thats where you get a lot of these things where you see him evidence being planted youre seeing you know cases being solved youre seeing that thing happen because of what happens world they put all this pressure on members solve cases because the politicians promise law and crime lying to the public when crime is already falling exactly its an easy thing that all of people love to vote and say theyre reducing crime but its something that was happening years ago years ago. U. S. President donald trump is once again on the defense chops claiming he was not made aware of a report that russian g. R. U. Units paid how yvonne militants to kill u. S. Troops in afghanistan this comes on the heels of a report stating that trump knew about the bounty operation its turning into a game of he said she said pretty quickly as trump continues to deny knowledge yet intelligence officials told the New York Times and the Associated Press that the president was briefed here to unpack this is r. T. America correspondent rachel weapons. Welcome rachel thank you so much for having me. So. What is the official word been from all sides so weve heard president come out and say that he denies this report tonight is of course that he was briefed and his claim that he made on twitter was really interesting because he went on to say that he talked to intelligence officials and they claim that they decided not to brief him on it because they saw the claims and they didnt think that they were credible and then of course he went on to go after the New York Times claiming that they just wanted to publish this because they dont like him you know and thats kind of diver that he takes and its interesting because then we see the response from russia and a spokesperson for president putin spoke out of and he said that he also denies these claims he denies that russia was involved in any of this and then he also went after the New York Times by saying that they have published a number of false reports specifically about russia in recent years now its interesting because when we look at this article that was published by the times we see that they actually admit that the taliban also denies these claims even though the taliban was the group that was supposed to be carrying out these attacks and paid to carry out because attacks in the 1st place you know we have the taliban coming out and calling these accusations false and baseless interesting interesting smells very familiar territory one of the most claims are made by intelligence officials what were the specific claims made by the New York Times in the water but you say that they were told by these once again intelligence officials raised that they have this article is published in which they claim that the United States had proof as early as january there russia was actively paying taliban linked militants to target u. S. Coalition sources and they say that at least one american died as a result i want to take a look at these claims and how they source them specifically because also interesting part here so they go on to say that they claim their report is based on conversations with anonymous american intelligence officials they say those officials have made their intelligence assessment based on interrogations of captured afghan militants. Which means that they were under duress when they allegedly claim the attacks were carried out by its alabam linked militants now they claim that russias motive for doing this would have been that the us was actively having peace talks with the taliban and that they wanted to keep the war in afghanistan going but when we look at what russia was actually doing during that time in 2019 we see that russia was on the forefront of pushing for peace in afghanistan they actually had delegates from both the taliban and the Afghan Government come to moscow to have meetings to talk about ways to pursue peace in the country and russian officials were speaking out and saying look this isnt going to happen through military force this is something that is going to take diplomatic talks so were not seeing any evidence here that russia was the one wanting the Afghanistan War to continue going on but at the same time when we look back at 29000 received the United States was ramping up bombing campaigns in afghanistan at levels that we hadnt seen in over a decade and at the same time they were also killing more civilians in the country than the taliban was brand thats thats a lot to unpack thats fascinating once you talk about the level of duress that was probably you know being undertaken at the time that kind of killed the rest of the story for me at that point you say whatever we all knew that and the thing for me too is its always a thing whenever you see what the Washington Post or a lot of these be a thing saying oh we confirm this it usually means they went to the same anonymous officials to say hey is what you told the New York Times accurate yeah it is you know will have to wait and see and see what actually comes out what evidence is actually produced at the end of the day to back up the claims rachel always a pleasure thank you so much thank you already everybody that is our show for you today remember in this world were not told but were love the story to tell you all i love you. 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