Actually advocate. The one to give. His brain after every sort of settled in a sense in time and not now the internet. There is a major balancing act and in that case and the years in the streets of paris as the regal its not free in the end. Some hears it saying is there any real truth to the. Trial stories ari said they are so private as serial writing of this thats you know its a really good question i think its a little bit of both as is so often the case certainly there are instances i would matsuda was where the air pollution has plummeted the air quality is better than its been in generations that is certainly a result of a lack of cars on the road seen them away as it is and yes he was photographed just stunning is also a result of a reduction in air pollution i think what these these images are showing us is what the world could look like in a in a different in a different future a future that we could go its its a result of a reduction illusion its result you know a reduction of human activities but you know life gets back to normal unfortunately i think a lot of it away. So the satellite images shot weeks after Strict Lockdown started it also showed the air indeed became cleaner not only her late but over many interests or however the world is a routine china and after more than like a century of constant pollution turns out all it takes is no 2 months of sitting at home. And were going to see the results does this mean that the problem of air quality is actually a lie easier to face than without well you know he doesnt he just has a few important things in there one thing i want to point out theres a that i have a great concern to many of my colleagues are very concerned that people are making a false connection for the environment to succeed. The economy has to decline thats not true but. What its showing us is that when we adopt the kinds of technology kinds of behaviors that can reduce pollution nature has an incredible ability to be resigned to bounce back as you pointed out in just a few short months we can transform air that we breathe imagine you know theres a lot of speculation and Additional Research summer early that. A lot of deaths have been avoided because of improve their quality in many places so i think that this is really a glimpse a window if you will what the world can be like when we start to adopt letter g. And start to invest in that kind of technology and make our air and our water of your your goals so lets not get more any detail about what you mean by when we have a class and environment and clean air it doesnt always have to be checks that hose to economic downfall and thats a reassuring thought for many because well suppose that it is over everyone is going to rush to make up for their losses sack areas and start running again traffic will come back the construction exploration will resume carrousel all these positive changes we see in their environment i feel like its not going to be there to stay for a long time and kind of lay at each it feelings about the what we think well i think that you know one of the realities coming out of this crisis is going to be a different economic landscape theres already a tremendous amount of suffering from an Economic Perspective as well as a whole perspective a lot of unemployment and so i believe that its our decision. Now to decide what kind of a world we want to build coming out of this. Assists for example in clean energy in the United States in 2019700000 people were employed in coal 2. 3 or more 1000000 people were employed in Energy Efficiency in Clean Energy Projects so the opportunity to create jobs coming out of this crisis and the top of the employment the woods. The opportunity exist to invest in Energy Efficiency which is relevant in moscow relevant in los angeles relevant paris hollow it doesnt matter where you are in the world Energy Efficiency those kinds of jobs and infrastructure and rethinking our energy grid that provides long term benefits for all of but also her eyes whole new industries for employment so instead of investing in some of the dirty industries that we out in the house and the the opportunity is to celebrate our investment in clean energy and those are the jobs of the future anyway and so we can we can get a head start and build an economy of the future coming out of cove it and also having the double benefit of building a world with your new your air cleaner water for ourselves and our children. Let me be more specific because this is like a very important topic what kind of measures more than what you said can be put in place so that after the condemning there rebound of a kind of a get will carry is when this office and mass its an issue if you were president of United States what kind of tell 5 measures would you implement coming out of condemning in terms of a fading as such a nation and saving the good that weve done today lamb and during that time that you know a couple things that come to mind when i think about what we need to do Going Forward economically what is infrastructure grand building buildings higher end of Energy Efficiency retrofitting buildings is a very very simple way that we can provide jobs with people who work face money by reducing Energy Consumption and building and depression. And that kind of Infrastructure Investment in major cities around the country would be to provide millions of jobs just there Green Building is absolutely critical retrofitting existing building is one way that we can from adequate review are the other things i would be looking to invest further in Sustainable Transportation so when we look at the explosion of electric cars that weve seen around the world the investment in Battery Technology investment in Battery Storage and Energy Storage is absolutely the focus of the future sermon on the perspective of if i had little dollars that i was going to invest in either traditional propping of traditional fuel as is the current administrations focus i would rather be investing in technology the rest of the world is increasingly consuming and looking forward i think thats really important for minority perspective and knowledge is in food one of the challenges with one of the concerns around this crisis and a recognition that our global food system is. Is vulnerable and so investing in people being able to provide food bill farms local communities investing in urban arms being able to allow local food for people with healthy food is something i would be investing in also can provide jobs for people for the looking at some of the fundamentals of our society how they were how we travel and where lives are the kinds of places below hanging fruit that. A skeptic will tell you that will most probably in the us of the president not in this type internet make that amazing right after corona is over so coming back to the reality right now could be a man and situation actually worsen after corona because you know why i would expect the industry to be working overtime to offset the damages sustained during the phonetic is that something i think. You know from from the research that i and the people have consulted and in my industry theres a strong belief that the economic recovery will not be the shape as people talk about a you shape and you no longer recovery so i think were going to have a pretty good on of months if not years before Gross Domestic Product returns to refocus levels in Europe Russia the United States. Likely years so in that case we do have a period of time so the thinking about how we kick start the. Economy and its something happen overnight so i dont think unfortunately were going to be rushing back into the status quo the way we were doing business overnight we will have a little bit of time to think this through we do have in washington or here in the United States you have a lot of you know t. V. Is going on around the world so i do think that theres an opportunity. Its across moments and invest in a better world for all of us because. There is a direct correlation between this disease these coronavirus and mans destruction of nature we know that these kinds of diseases there are still a lot of research to be done but we know that these kinds of diseases oftentimes originate in nature and that our continued destruction and encroachments into nature is putting us war and more at risk of encountering these kinds of diseases so our destruction of nature is connected to this and. Thats why theres a lesson there that i think we need to heed and we listen to or else were going to repeat this over and over as you continue to destroy the last wild places on earth and we encounter this unsatisfactory this is happened many many times or fortunately a lot of the diseases that have come out of nature in the past few decades have not been spiraling or as as aggressive as there have been other cases many other cases where we have encroached into virgin rain forests urging forests. Around the world not just rain forest dry forests and. Counter these irises. Are deadly but fortunately you know. I think its fair to say that they issue of environment. Is something that has become more prevalent and more important to normal people who become more aware that when it comes down to it still until lately we sort of sate satirists side of a politician when it comes to edit. So they stir me how do you attract attention to the green part of the problem well right now you have to compete with attention grabbers i fear of daring and unemployment and certainty so as we look lets take a pandemic in code 90 for example. People with Underlying Health conditions are more. Susceptible to extreme distress or death from this virus no there are a lot of Underlying Health conditions respiratory Health Conditions for example there are costs or exacerbated by poor quality you talk about the balance of short term balance of the game while we have to destroy the environment to build the economy i think endemic demonstrates that is not true that is a false choice because ultimately when we destroy the environment now or sitting in a situation that is awesome and well economy tends alternately probably tens of trillions of dollars now no one can argue that a little bit of conservation one of would have gone a long way preventing some of the activities encroachments some of the hunting some of the things ive gone on as exposing is that these diseases and more investment in conservation could have avoided this crisis is aimed at that as we intrude more gracefully into whats left of nature american academics like this one more will come before what will come more frequently in late more than joe did theres its a numbers game the more that we expose ourselves to wilderness to these wild last wild places the more we increase the potential to be exposed to these are the virus so you know epidemiologists have been saying for decades that its not a question of if theres going to be found its just when and we found ourselves unprepared to deal with it because weve ignored the scientific recommendations as currently in the world today there are a lot of people that have been conducting lets face it a war on science because they dont like what scientists are telling and so we get more science at our peril and here we are in a situation with this endemic in war didnt listen and our and this example has your radar when we are baffled continue talking to you oh. Yes. Join me every. And were back with if he can stir up a nominee pretty sarah and her 1st film maker x. Laura and my mental advocate he now there are calls for an International Band landmark case play calling 19 is the only to have made the leap from animals to humans and our wildlife trade in general however we all know that something exists already just banned what make it go away well or better in preventing future condemn it as a barrier to bad and well glad trade in hunting and spend resources in forcing the and or keep quiet markets open and under control without running them underground late extra control of what i think that there is a couple of incentives one is the education. Theres a lot of people in these kinds of situations in these rural areas as well markets that really dont understand the consequences or that. Its not necessarily their fault its important for us to invest in education in these places and provide alternative opportunities for people and livelihood. But we do in some cases need to control i think more and more tightly. The trade in certain species. Species that are already go we could do a lot more trying to do a lot more or so laws that are insists thats very important but youre right immediately damning offices are so certain that they would be going to the bottom are already exists so there needs to be better education and there certainly needs to be better enforcement and there needs to be recognition that we passed on alternative means. And also. When and how to stop because human stepping on natures toes since in a way head above and were 8000000000 on this earth and maybe double that by the end of the century so humans need. President s lets say over the world and leaves and so habitats and eco systems are this story because i mean we all love animals who were going to live somewhere so even though encroaching on nature may very well be deadly for us judging from a virus how do we actually stop. Well cities are a terrific way i mean looking at how we manage people and manage growth in this world we need to be looking at lest sprawl its running out and more built little healthy. Cities in 90 days just one example of the consequences if units for a major when we think about the destruction in biodiversity are for example in the last 40 years half the biodiversity on earth has disappeared. Now that has consequences on us ill give just one simple example the pollinator insects when we started destroying nature the amount of the value that nature provides human beings is tremendous simply the value that is provided for free i pollinators to our Agricultural Sector which feeds millions of people around the world is incalculable and yet we are through various activities that that destroying these pollinators with devastating consequences for our ability to survive on this planet so theres so many different usually layers of importance of protecting nature and attacking ourselves but one of the tools that we have we dont need to protect all of nature. The eminent part biologist you know wilson said just a few years ago we need to protect half of nature for nature on land and half for humans and the ocean we need to protect 30 percent of nature 203030 percent of the oceans for these very special protected biodiverse areas that i think we can challenge ourselves humanity to do theres plenty of space on this planet we need to focus on how we build little cities and then we need to decide where these we have decided we need to agree these places that are important diversity. Reservoirs to set those aside and protect them and not encroach there for. Example in places like indonesia and the philippines there is a lot of land that is available that is marginal land that is not very high and. It could be used for palm oil. But for various political reasons and the person sent it oftentimes instead of using that land people are. Destroying virgin rainforest so there is a way for humanity its a little harmony with nature it is still possible with going with and. Its not easy but its certainly possible one of the things we need to do recognise where these areas are. And. Tension is a plastic and the areas dangly or plesk person is on the rise and thats because of the neck or nonsense quoting there that if they get a single user tesing your infection any even the dance again Single Use Plastics like cross 3 bags are going away under pressure from of the history all over the United States to back to making a comeback after a long battle to them that that system and i just wonder in times of medical emergencies like that is the area they seek attorney have to single use plastic protests. Plastic is not in of itself a bad thing. Its a classic in the wrong place at the wrong time but its a bad. Boss it has a role to play in our society but as you pointed out the kinds of Single Use Plastics bags things like that. That are a convenience but that is all are are. From the medical perspective is a very small and very important tool that helps keep all of us alive at various points when are we going to ask them you die the i. V. Bags you know president. But i think that yes its laziness and its the exploitation of certain special interests you know. Opportunity to try and reinserted spends it simply dont even society into us at a time like this crisis that we need to we need to be vigilant and not allow but we need laws in the mass we really need those laws in mass or difference not for sure and i think in that case we need to be better we need to make sure that were disposing of those 6 properly but theyre not ending up in the ocean. But that i think that in need for cities classics in a time like this is not really extensive plastic bags can. Theres like that or they continue to be assured the ocean because remember what we have found the scientists have discovered is that these plastics they break down into smaller and smaller pieces and never go away were finding these micro phosphates in the flesh of the fish if human beings are eating this is part of a we live in a cycle there is a system as a way so we are paying Health Consequences again for our use of. This nothing for her and so the Something Like this crisis cant be. A blank slate a couple on earth people just begin to polluting again when it comes to gloves and masks the absolute difference not on that will go hopefully when this crisis goes away but its not an excuse isolated in some cities United Sta