Learning how to do work differently and i think this is one of those life gives you lemons make lemonade type of a moment and as such i think this is one of those survival of the fittest things youre going to see businesses come out of this and come out stronger better and youre also going to see a lot of businesses unfortunately go under. Yeah restaurants are gonna fold theres no 2 ways about it theyve just been out of business for too long and as much as i miss the camaraderie back at the headquarters in washington i must say i have never felt claustrophobic during the couple of months since they sent us home and we still manage to do a show every week and i will confess that i am going to remember this restful time fondly but thats anecdotal you have actually researched this and one factoid you have surfaced which many of us can relate to 40 percent say theyve gained weight during quarantine and thats the 40 percent who admit it and i was equally unsurprised that nearly a 3rd that you have surveyed admit theyre drinking more and you were very kind to surmise that we were easing isolation with the zoom happy hours but from a product to vittie standpoint how are employers and employees and customers tolerating this trio mo d. Private of in person interaction. Theyre doing it the way were doing it right now its you know whats fascinating is how little im using my phone these days and how often im using this camera im talking into right now thats one of the big stories i think were going to see out of all of this is that weve learned how to do business on a face to face basis without being in the same room when we do that and so businesses who have figured out how to master the art of skype or teams or zoom or whatever the product is that theyre using have really come to realize that this is going to be a game changer for how we interact with one another both in terms of our Clients Center accounts as well as even our employees i mean even the companies that are going to reopen their offices in the coming weeks theyre probably going to still be sitting you know 20 feet down the hall and not walk down the hall theyre going to do what were doing right now. Yeah were speaking with the h. R. Expert david lewis from operations and who is conducting a series of free webinars and his website operations and dot com is a rich trove of management know how david were seeing these plexiglas barriers at the post office the supermarket everywhere how apprehensive are employers and employees about returning to the workplace to talk about stay and 20 feet apart read the room. Yeah thats that is the story right now is that what governors are missing as they start to try and figure out how to reopen their states for a business is that this isnt necessarily as much about the guidelines that the Business Owners have to follow its how the public perceives those guidelines to be are they complete do they make it safe for me to leave my house and one of the things you really worked on with our clients now is to ask your employees do a poll survey find out how theyre feeling about going back to the office before you actually make that commitment and that plan because youre going to find that people have all sorts of issues concerns about their Health Concerns about the health of those they live with and thats going to be a driving factor in what your strategy is going to be Going Forward in terms of opening that office up that public concern is the number one issue right now for any business thats looking to reopen yeah i am not surprised there is a lot of about restoring supply but will demand be there david and i are neighbors hes based in connecticut and im here in rhode island and both states are suffering revenue wise with the casinos closed and we are now told that the 2 big casinos in connecticut are open june 1 and that the experience will be very different so its going to be interesting to see if people are where if they are willing to return to places even when there are places again and to another point you made david how many who will remain employed after the crisis wont return to a work place are there Lessons Learned from all this telecommuting we bento on. You know i was saying this morning to someone that i think were going to be talking to our grandchildren and great grandchildren hopefully for around for that about how february of 2020 changed the way that we lived in the way that we did work and its everything from the workplace perspective it is about realizing now that those companies who embraced remote work before all of this have just gotten better at it and have come to realize how little they really need the office and for those companies that resisted this theyve been forced to have to try it out and for many of them they are coming to the realization that this can work and heres the kicker when we move forward past this point and we get back to whatever normal looks like its going to be a competitive advantage for a lot of companies to offer more in the way of remote work to their employees or the other way of looking at it is youre going to be an outlier if youre that company that actually does something that seems weird come 2022 which is you actually go to an office to do work i just do all of that from home this is going to change the way we work its going to change the way we live. Yeah im not to in the business of given out Investment Advice but i cant think commercial property is a great investment because how many square feet to really need and the surface the issue surfaces in education as well that class of 2020 didnt get to walk and theres already squawking about the fall semester. Is this going to end up full boat tuitions for what amounts to a correspondence course interviewed by w. P. R. O. Radio here university of rhode island president david dooley address that concern he said its going to be a really lousy job market with unemployment where it is right now its going to be extremely hard to find any kind of fulfilling position for you so why not come back to college and prepare for your future or continue to prepare for your future david when weve had you on before we spoke at some length about non 4 Year College Career opportunities and there are many and by the way if you missed that segment you can find it where you will find all our shows on demand at you tube dot com slash the big picture our t. David crystal ball it for us how will what we are going through right now change Employment Opportunities in the new normal. Yes so in the next year that the big challenge for anybody thats coming into the job market or thats got thrown into the job market is that weve gone from a talent symbol to a talent ocean youve got so many people out there that are going to be looking for work where you know 12 weeks ago we were at 3. 5 percent unemployment and you couldnt find anybody in a 3. 5 percent unemployment one world those bars drop very low you only see 4 or 5 requirements for somebody to essentially apply for a job and be qualified for that position when you get to unemployment the levels of which we are looking at right now in the 20 plus percent range those lists to balloon to 25. 00 or 30 Different Things on that requirements list so youre going to see companies are going to be able to be very selective in very picky in the near term as this eases up and hopefully that sooner rather than later i think that trend is going to continue as companies have determined that that formal education is not nearly as important as taking someone looking at their core skills and harnessing those core skills and by that i mean find people who are good communicators who work well with the team versus who have 5 years of this 2 years of that and that very expensive 4 year degree any a category is or a specific occupations you see as newly opportune. You know if youre everybodys now focused so much on those essential businesses and those areas that are continuing to serve the public during this period of time certainly anything related to medical and pharmaceutical in particular is going to continue to thrive if not more so because the concern now is are we dealing with something that is a once in a lifetime of that where is this the kind of life that were going to be living in for the foreseeable future in terms of these new diseases these new viruses and the need to go ahead and create solutions for them in the form of treatment in the form of vaccine so i think anything around pharmaceutical anything around testing those are areas that are going to absolutely thrive not that they werent doing well in their own right before but exponential increases in their performance in the coming years for sure. Better off and aspiring to be a sushi chef mention we are neighbors and your governor lamont and our governor rimando are coping during this phased reopening and the companies are coping with the inconsistency of rules that dont cross state lines whats kosher in my state might be taboo in yours id guess that many maybe most of your clients dont just sell instate how are your clients coping with this agonizingly gradual reopening process. You know i think now you know 4 or 5 weeks ago there was much greater sense of urgency to try and get back into the office and now as people start to understand a little bit more about what thats going to look like and about how reluctant their employees are to go from those businesses who continue to operate on a remote basis theyre doing so in fact connecticut issued in the past couple of weeks guidance on what you need to do to reopen and the 1st paragraph in the guidance said if you can continue to operate as a business remotely please do so they know as well as we do that its just not safe to be able to do this or at least not safe enough that youre going to avoid somebody contracting in some way shape or form this virus so you know theres dynamics associated with the return the cross state thing the best thing that ive seen happen is that you have 7 states are brought island in connecticut included who linked arms and said were going to do this together were going to make sure because were a region where people constantly cross state lines were going to make sure that we try to coordinate this now theyre not off to the best start because rhode island didnt want to open up their salons and barbershops a couple weeks ago and told the governor of connecticut and now suddenly he pulled back on his day making a lot of people arent happy here with that said i think overall that coordinated exercise is going to go a long way toward towards making it safer and making it easier for us to get back to our. You know my hair was shorter this in College David lewis operations and thanks always for your time i know youre a busy guy so i appreciate it good to talk to. My pleasure allen take care. You bet coming up have ya memorized netflix lately are the walls closing in on you is anybody but the dog happy that youre spending so much time at home exhale psycho therapist Mark Rutherford joins us next this is the big picture on our t. America. International memorial awards are now open for entries all media professionals are eligible whether you are a freelance journalist work for alternative media or part of a global News Platform to participate send us your published works in video all written for much go to award dot altie dot com and then to now. Is the United States hell bent on selfdestruction endemic a dramatic economic turndown and now massive civil unrest all point to define could this have been avoided also targeting hong kong watching looking for species label india. Thinking of getting abused on the ones we got in your shoes why you know its still strapped in this time you know why are people who need a crate with him he will just start freaking out into the wall when its pretty much anywhere near thousands of breeding dogs caged in the interview lane conditions on puppy farm i mean 67 years. Theyve been locked up in the cage outside you see no protection from the weather the heat you know the courtier the rain the snow the thunder nothing they have no protection. Because you. Know its ok. To cross the u. S. Crude puppy mills are supported by dog shows and pet stores most of the puppies that are coming from these large Scale Factory farming kind of operations are being sold in stores even joined a good businesses are involved but cant get them sent up there has been a shocking amount of the organized opposition to efforts to increase the sander to care for dogs bred in commercial breeding facilities most of that opposition is coming from huge agricultural groups and industries that have nothing to do with dogs dont buy dogs. If you are feeling cooped up while quarantined youre not alone and while its normal to feel anxious angry even afraid experts warn against feeling bad about feeling bad and heres one of them right now Mark Rutherford is a psycho therapist in private practice in florida mark welcome back. Nice to see you. I had a tele medicine call with my doc a few days ago and my dentist face time me and his hair was even longer than mine i imagine that if you are still interacting with your patients youre doing the same thing hows that going. 1st of all your hair looks great im just saying. Yes. My practice which is historically been in person im going to say upwards of 90 to 95 percent have been zoomed face time google hangout you name it every once in a while there are there is someone who comes into the office but for the most part you know after 8 hours your eyes kind of go a little crossed doing this zoom all. The last time you when i spoke mark was the very last show that i did from the Broadcast Center in america and washington before they set us all home how since then have the folks that you counsel adapted whats the mode. Ok so you see 2 kind of very clear trajectories of what happens you know its people either kind of spin out of control you see them getting more alarmed more anxious more and more depressed some of their coping mechanisms begin to break down and then you see the other kind of group of people which you know we recalibrate in re prioritizing kind of settle in for the long haul the people who are reprivatize tend to do better but the longer this pandemic goes on the people who have kind of begun to escalate theres nowhere else for them to go so you see the cracks begin to show. Yeah im not surprised and while we have you here lets hit on you for some free advice will all slide on to the virtual couch give us some tips for making the most of this stay at home time. So theres a number of things one is just normalize the process right in our last conversation i think i said you know keep calm and wash your hands that still applies today the idea is that this is something larger than us you know we human beings like the ability to control our lives and in this moment in time there is a very clear lack of control and so you look at the things that you can control your schedule try to wake up at a normal time try to work out you know i would say get up work out you go to your bedroom to go to work you know makes make sure you do a lunch break eat well you know these kind of very you know specific kind of most. Low cost 10. 00 coping techniques tend to work because its a day to day piece its a one day at a time composed. You do a lot of work with the children what is the best way to tell kids why were quarantining and why were Walking Around with face masks without freaking im out. Yes so i see i have a lot of parents that come in and i see kids as young as 5 to 6 years of age off way through Teaching College and its that old saying think globally act locally d these kids develop in mind for children is not fully formed you know for girls its a little. Bit of a little quicker 1920 boys they dont really get the full development 2425 and so trying to have them watch the news or talk about the Economic Impact of the political impact or the you know or any of the larger pieces tends to be like Charlie Browns teacher while. The way that you can speak to them is very specific so youre walking into the Grocery Store your child doesnt want to put on a mask you have a very kind of simple conversation with them around. They know like a School Teacher or their grandparents like were putting this mask on so we protect grandma and thats as much as they need to narrow at any given moment you dont have to go into all of the you know the layers of the medical risks around not wearing a mask you give them something tangible youre going to want to or why theyre going to be like theyre making a difference and. You know you just paraphrased a great line that governor jay inslee from washington said a while back when a reporter asked what will be the penalties for things like going to see your grandfather in the nursing home and he said your grandpa could die and thats a little dire to tell little kids would you advise parents to have children Young Children of void watching the news watch the news with you and talking about it where on the spectrum do you come down on that. Well not only for kids but i recommend taking new sabbaticals you know when we get caught up in your stand at home its easy to eat the t. V. On 247 and we get wrapped up around the inside of the music playing in the background and the repetitiveness of the stories coming out and so yes keep the kids away from the t. V. For the most part theres been a number of Different Networks that are done like coronavirus news for children thats ok but dont have much too much and really focus on the parts with them with the song accentuate that if you have anything negative like focus on the good that they can do not you know if you dont wear a mask agreements going to die but this is going to really help keep your grandma safe and happy and healthy so we can see or next summer on our trip up you know wherever were going to pick the picture up with them. Yeah Glass Half Full a lot of what im seeing on facebook may be misleading but im seeing little kids dressing up and im seeing zip down the zip line that dads set up in the backyard and some of the other creative ways that parents are occupying kiddos times actually as we may all be shouldnt we strive to make this a time were going to remember fondly. Yes thats what i love about seeing some of those stories you know the