The 4 Police Officers were fired immediately it was just you know as soon as it was over that they were fighting we did it. Every single commentator in the United States condemn this i mean even the most right wing commentators the the pro police crowd the sean hannity Rush Limbaugh or judge Jeanine Pirro they all condemned so there was no attempt to say oh you know this was this is understandable reaction on the part of these now if you contrast that with what happened 3 years ago same city in minneapolis when a Young Australian woman white australian woman who was shot dead by a black Police Officer the black Police Officer was apparently threatened by a woman in her night gown and he shot her debt. There were no protests there were no riots though and though condemnations anyone even knew about this event the Police Officer was placed on suspension on full pay wasnt fined immediately and after some time couple of years went by he wasnt be prosecuted and sent to president bush well b. S. Now if america really had a problem with systemic white racism then it would be exact reverse what you would have is widespread hysteria about a black officer shooting dead a white woman and i think that as opposed to this case where people were saying well you know these white white officers of course they felt threatened by and by it didnt have if there is a narrative they need they use for their own political ends if you know you know marcus i mean i can understand people protesting and being angry about the need was of of any citizen in respect to. Color here how does that justify any way shape or form looting and burning down buildings how does that justify the Mainstream Media not talking about elements of and keep infiltrating all cities that are experiencing social unrest now theres very few people that want to talk about that because you know how do you justify moody particularly when youre Looting Stores the biggest victims are the poor and the people the weakest in society go ahead marcus. Oh well peter has been a witness to over the last week or so is that a true face of america not the hollywood depiction of america and American Society but the reality of American Society because on the one hand the wells are serviced consecutive american governments be a democratic are all are public and move in across the rows 100 countries losing their countries destroying the economies of countries and on the other hand we have some cool protesters in american towns and cities losing that shot to sure enough business is destroying peoples livelihoods destroying peoples lives that is the true reality of American Society not only has he all of hollywood not only aleksey all american Mainstream Media and british Mainstream Media that depicts america as almost say heaven on earth and then we have to take into consideration the organization and see far and see for itself to be a police or Cool Movement peace is not political movements and this is even less so a socialists communists movements and see far is simply a violent mindless degenerates and craved movements which in my opinion should be classified now as a terrorist organization and you know i have no sooner free with American Foreign policy but i do have sympathy with the lives of ordinary americans because i have observed and. Activists to surely shot lucy in its. Taking peoples life he has away from there i think. The community in america that are peace be suffering their mothers from these atrocious actions all and see far is a very community that. Professes disassociating and defended the African American community thats a community that is suffering and the motorists you know it george to it its very much an air of despair and discuss because we see during this pandemic crisis you know and we can all go the way all the way back to 2008 minutes massive transfers of wealth to the wealthy the people already wealthy you know these bailouts are stimulus we want to call them essentially they are the rich and powerful had Concierge Service and working people its an afterthought ok and oh the horror of it somebody might be getting unemployment were making more money than when theyre working well that says a lot about the state of the economy doesnt it ok i mean kind of going up a little bit with what marcus had to say this is really kind of a culture of looting ok you have the elites the world they have the elites that have looted the middle class the working class and now when you ask people and watching Mainstream Media i mean im very very mainstream asking these protesters cortico when theyre protesting well if george floyd if thats yesterday last weeks news ok maybe its riot or riot sake and that would end and that really is kind of be the end of the playbook because n. T. P. Is antipolitical it has to be political is to engage and they do not want to do that they want chaos that they most likely dont face any consequences of me most of them are white after all privileged white people i would say in my opinion here so were in a very anti political environment go ahead joe. Yes absolutely right and when you see these rioters many of them all white i mean these are you know so you know this is not this is a black rage over what happened to a black man these are white people. And essentially is help yourself time i mean weve seen those scenes of people breaking into louisville its only in Portland Oregon and help yourself to something you know designer handbags so this is indeed looting and you will get what you can see going back to your point about the looting that has taken place for many years looting from the middle cus with this protest transfer of wealth to not even to the one percent of the 0 point one percent so we have the same victims of the looting i mean we have shopkeepers again this footage of a you know a shopkeeper trying to defend himself and it was just basically kicked to death so these are people people who you have barely able to exit you know they go from paycheck to paycheck who are looted by that 0 point one percent and by the anti for crowd and not only that these people who are the victims are the ones who are regularly condemned in the media as being racists trump support this or sexist or you know well you know the deplorable Hillary Clinton so its a very its a kind of its a double whammy of being it when double whammy i think he said perfectly safe because marcus you know you have like and tea for him then you have the Mainstream Media and then the ruling elite say they love the you know it raises them its racism you know why because the ruling classes the money classes and people like in t. But they dont want you to talk about whats most important and thats class because class involved every single day a skin color and they never will address that. They always did this is shell game oh it just is systemic racism its this is the diplexer and i and i think this also adds to the general anger and frustration that people have because the politics the political realm has been shut down because if you if you if you disagree with the with the mainstream says you know then youre somehow. Beyond your out you cannot be part of the church as it were here this is this whats going on right now is it is an intentional destruction of politics and it makes no way from go ahead mark. Strange asian politics try as in celestial ism and cognition as night and see far north american mainstream asia have night. And i believe later what were seeing in america is also what were seeing in other countries which comprise the west in meticulous prison because brisson an american citizen aid thats true countries which form the nucleus of the west have deteriorated over the last 20 to 30 years what i really hate or is that america and britain are intellectually coincidentally culturally and morally. And i. Put that down to the effects of kooker capitalism and also to the loss of listen because religion is absolutely the is the absolute fundamental hilla of a society all unless a society is for example conus it in a society you have to have a fundamental pillar which keeps the people together with strips harmony but in america and britain that fundamental pillar of christianity. Has it all up disappeared and that is why culturally other countries as it is a country loses its culture it loses its National Identity and then people would trade actions which trying to leave their south and i mean we have no dog for anyone else in society i actually have a leadership challenge and reality television. Is saying it is its a civic religion its been proven to be an apple jet failure look at the streets of america right now civic religion is of failure ok gentlemen im going to jump in here were going to go to a short break now let your break well continue our discussion and some real news. You cannot be both with me yeah you are. One else seemed wrong all right all rolled just dont all. Mean you will get to shape out just being ethical and endangered because the trail. Went something find themselves worlds apart. Just to look for common ground. Why bargain. Bergin well here are the bullet points. For those of you allocating score. Cities are on fire. 40000000 unemployed. In america. G. D. P. Of the climb by 50 percent in the 2nd quarter. The last a day of money is dead. Small businesses are dead. And j. P. L. Fed chairman says this is fine because if 5 isnt fun to find. You. Welcome back to cross talk were all things are considered im Peter Lavelle to remind you were discussing some real news. Ok machine gears here marcus let me go back to you talk about whats going on in hong kong you know considering whats going on in the streets of america right now and what the United States is meddling in thats exactly what it is meddling in hong kong so let me see if i get the logic correct here so do the way the United States is treating on power which last time i heard was part of china so i suppose president xi of china should be commenting and sanctioning the United States how it treats its citizens in cities all across america huge civil rights and Human Rights Violations but do we all know thats not going to happen whats going on in hong kong and say and please make clear to our people our viewers here that the United States approach to china is completely beyond and outside of International Law go ahead. Well heaven forbid paid for your shoes and implicitly issues in the american governance of those standards so i would say you know the last such an argument but in all seriousness states of the situation in konkona has reached a new and critical stage because of one year. Of violent protests off social disorder in hong kong which has manifested itself in the sounds of Police Offices beijing is now taped in very Decisive Action the chinese a legislator has now passed a National Security law which rule enable the it chinese authorities to directly confront each stream in hong kong and suspension is a in hong kong and the protests and lets lets i use the word processor in a very loose why because what we have saved many a year in hong kong has me who restraints it british and American Special services now in response to china passing a National Security law the British Government has threatened to offer residents citizenship to treat 800000 citizens of hong kong who have a British National overseas hospital now that consensually crudes a a turning point in this issue ration because the british decision over what britain is saying it will do unless china tracks on its National Security law which reduced the chinese will not print the insurgency you know what the british are saying is a flagrant serious violation of chinese sovereign state so what we can say to you. The chinese are certainly not going to consul my is an image the chinese saw in say the same time the british and the americans are in this for the long haul yet you know george one of the things i find so bewildered reading the focus on home com and you know the former are high commissioner of britain commenting on the condition of democracy in Civil Society and how come now let me see if i remember this when it was a colony of the british and there was no democracy there ever it was a colony you dont have democracy ok so what gives the United States the right and particularly the u. K. To talk about Civil Society democracy in hong kong i mean that would be as it is if in the time the Chinese Communist party would be commenting on local elections in london i mean they wouldnt do it because it be wrong would be meddling but of course it is this exceptional way of looking at the world and stoking up tensions where theyre not necessary whatsoever the marcus brought up a very point a suggestion and independence i mean it do you do that in any western country and youre going to find yourself in a lot of trouble politically if youre taking all in money and go to the National Endowment for democracy their web site and theyre completely transparent but theyre doing ok i mean this is you know what this is akin to not getting a square its akin to ukraine in 2014 go ahead yes yes thats exactly right it is hilarious now it will these commentators coming on television and saying well china has broken its pledges on Hong Kong China hasnt broken anything the sign of british going declaration and china said this is what we will maintain but britain has no sovereign rights. Gay theyre not in 997 it is entirely up to china how gong is governments or china hasnt broken any pledges. At all giant because this is sovereign chinese there in the china is entitled to take whatever measures are necessary to bring to an end submission terrorism centuries and with the same determination that any european power or all the United States will do if it happened. We saw what happened in spain there and what they did in catalonia i mean latest that we arrested the leaders a book i mean president no one said boo about that i mean so china is entitle to do exactly the same thing and the remarkable thing is that china has actually been extremely tolerant of hong kong theyve maintained it or ptolemy it you know it has all of that but there is a limit to what it can put up with and community and i mean the you know its not going to put up with you know endless violence i was surprised that they put up with it as long as they did so its understandable that theyre now you know essentially saying enough is enough or were going to impose order on you know marcus if this this cut and this imperial habits are so annoying in particular and probably very frustrating when youre on the receiving end of it here i mean this is an internal affair of china and this lack of respect of that in is very troubling and as i said the National Endowment of democracy you can its there keep me clear what theyre trying to do theyre trying to create internal divisions and chaos and if you over the last year you know as everyone everyone in the west 93 stupidly uninformed cheerily these people they actually have a lot of the violence you see going on in the streets of america right now were happening in hong kong as well and i could point out to all the good liberals that have now crocodile tears for hong kong is that you know a lot of the protests and violence were actually against ethnic han chinese i mean there is even in a racist element in this here which is completely overlooked by the Mainstream Media. The chinese serving 8 seed in late tolerance over the such a social disorder in hong kong finney a year now and one of the reasons is because china cares about its reputation on the International Stage china does not want to take any action which could undermine the 985. 00 agreements signed between shopping and modern fashion which says that hong kong will be returned to china in ny same 97. 00 china does not want to be seen as America China wants the same as a country which wastes science agreements if he is to agreement with the americans on 3 example when it comes to the iran eucalypt its very very evident that british imperialism and american imperialism is alive and well its you piece of london wasnt so good are hong kong and new so change hang as constitutes in the back alleys here while china a was physically a shady achilles heel of the chinese economy. Rishon americans dont legally seriously believe. Away hong kong from china oh well i do believe they are believe is that cool since so much civil one blessed so much violence in hong kong. Eventually have a very very critical impact on the chinese economy and crew so encourage our legions of hong kong which are somewhat restless and visit us so what i am arguing a case is an absolute and a london and a half by coups exhaust social disorder in hong kong this could instigate a domino effect in china and i believe that. Islamists secessionists comprise a place isis and our kind of inching sac are you know its all in their hands