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A Global Business an Educational Consulting firm based in michigan as well as a regular contributor to china u. S. Focus with an interest as unbuilding heise between the east and west and in singapore we cross to jim rogers hes an International Investor and director of. Our gentlemen crossed out rules in effect that means you can jump and he was rich all right let me go to singapore jim let me go to you 1st here we hear a lot of bluster coming out of western capitals particularly the United States and the media depending on what. Side of the aisle youre on but its all trying to stall china must pay something must be done its always the mantra something must be done that is the age we live in. A not i look at all of it and then. You know and its this. Kneejerk reaction and of course about the old paradigms like the cold war that was ended in 9091 so i mean as you are is you all absorb it here in europe. An actual guy so i trust you more is there a strategy i dont trust politicians not for. Me and you know ok you know asia very well is this you know. Cold war 2. 0 against chinese is irrespective he did you see that you can delineate all. Throughout history all over the world when things go bad politicians blame the foreigners always blame to far as they have different skin and different languages different religion different food they smell bad food smells bad Everybody Loves to blame the forests and thats whats happening now china is the most prominent of the farmers and the most successful so were blaming the foreigners i mean it is a total absurdity if you ask me we should be working together to bring prosperity to everybody but thats why im not a politician i guess. That engender so many responses for me but i cant do it on this program im going to go to you you know. Really really very squarely i think here i mean for 1st of all the u. S. And many of its allies are not coming through this pandemic very well we would show that they were unprepared and particularly in the United States and now and this is not to attack any particular politician thats not my point here i point is is that the globalization reveals what globalization has done the chinese to globalization and build an economy the United States in the in the western world created financial ation be financial ization of the economy very different approaches to globalization overall one player makes stuff in exports a lot of people want and the other one will displace with funny money all the time and this is something that no one really wants to talk about in the west because it is not to do they would benefit actually very much to their serious disadvantage. Thank you and 1st jim thanks for not wearing a bow tie i thought i was going to be on with 2 bow tie affection audits and be the odd guy out clearly what weve seen is a massive change over the last 40 years i grew up right it outside of with wash and they say as a boy i and i remember when china was not much different than north korea was so for us today it was a forbidden by so my mom telling me you know each repeats the chinese children are starving well i want to mail them to him because i didnt want to hear them but you fast forward to 40 years and china has risen up as mouse said and 949. 00 s. And the gate of heaven square the chinese citizens of stood up and clearly they have more people have risen up out of poverty over the last 40 years than the United States has its people so when jim talks about it as its not a politician ive kind of ebb and flow in government and private and nonprofit world. Blame has always been a part of americans playbook and certainly blaming people as he pointed out that are different that us thats what we need to do in my a summation is change the paradigm around and when people start pointing the finger at other people the American People have to ask how does blame help that hasnt restore there for a while and how does it help get them back to work and if you think youre just going to decouple from china and thats the end of the game i think you got another thing coming when given the same with the couple of years living its very important i can understand the need your response i mean we saw the supply chains particularly in the medical sector and you know one thing grossly one thing in many ways when decoupling well is a decoupling going on but its not being real reported there or at all in the media is this Asian Countries are being. We did a couple from the United States not from john ok and that is something that is a trend it is growing before it is endemic that was going on now people will look at the data is it comes out but you know this mantra you know we have to cut ourselves off from him well from from china you know that in the end is politicians knocking on of their sleeve and thats what i can say hold on to me but you know i dont see who want to be the titans of business are going to be leaving china any time soon because well thats where they make money ok so i mean this will end up being a 00 issue or an internal issue 19 states because out there were years of. Investing in the Chinese Market i dont see a problem and i dont see them coming back anytime soon unless you want to start now one thing it is we go ahead. Peter trade wars have never worked for anybody nobody has ever want to trade or whether street coupling or tariffs are you any way you want to put it mr trump either doesnt know history or well he actually thinks hes smart and history he doesnt care about history he has it in his brain and his friends around him all think the trade wars are good and that bashing the chinese i mean various people in the Republican Party have made it very clear dish selection is going to be run on bashing china and thats what theyre of out doing they look around and say we how were going to win this election the easy way is to i think is to bash china is it good for america no of course not we should all be trading together you know america by a lot from china china buys a lot from america the chinese are ahead of us in some technology but were ahead and others we should be working together the idea that were going to decouple and say to the chinese we want trade with you how does that help america how does that help anybody had. That help china maybe a few more americans will get a job for a while but there are 325000000. 00 americans who are all going to have to pay much higher prices for everything so we want to start buying our shirts from illinois i dont think so theyll be more expensive than they probably wont be as good you would think i think that these jobs are coming back to the United States i mean that would be the political rhetoric but what you will see is automation and robots back in the American Factory charlie are going to say. And surgical gowns and other medical equipment kind of be in order or im sure i do think the rouge plant the Ford Motor Company that i work my way through college in here in detroit is going to come back and theres going to be 100000 people with strong backs and not much think because your job is to tighten that not going to happen if those jobs do come back in are theyre coming back to automation to robots and not those 3540. 00 an hour high low skilled jobs here in the United States are exactly right but even if well maybe if they come back with robots yes fine but normally americas not a cheap place of fish and place to do business to manufacture the products will be much higher priced and they would be if theyre made somewhere i mean this is economics which has been around for a 1000 years we all know that such as comparative advantage and thats the way the world works sure we can all buy expensive forwards again that breakdown for not to do that i would prefer americas to do the things that you know good and let the chinese and other people do the things theyre good at you know the time to be the timing of this is quite. Bizarre because you know you have. Well we dont know all the details because we dont have all the Economic Data yet but i mean i think its very very to say that the u. S. Economy is in deep recession right now hes not depressed depending on i guess the Great Depression i think is this is clearly i am not an american because we dont have those numbers yet but i mean it looks like its moving in that direction. And so we need the powers that be it leaves a good part of them want to go on this you know new cold war with china when the u. S. Economy is on its back you know these people have any common sense i guess thats a rhetorical im going to is i think its going to go ahead and i think its really a 6 month strategy and this is until november 3rd i think is election day strategy this is and i watched it here in michigan a very pointed out this china has always made it the bogeyman certainly one of the action time comes up and certainly in the industrial midwest here in the state of michigan which has seen a lot of its Manufacturing Base and keep in mind that in this election its really going to be a few states that are combat it is going to be a wisconsin and michigan and pennsylvania which earlier arent you there and so let me assure you the Bumper Sticker shipped jobs to china is going to resonate a whole lot more than anybody giving economic theory or geo political theories about ways i think that we should engage with china my hope is that its only a 6 month strategy and either because the American People make a different choice and hence we have different policies on or a certain early after election theres going to have to be some sort of habit because the path were on right now seems mutually destructive and in my estimation you know talking appear to be sure to understand that what what tom said there is not election in america in november and everything is consumed by that election they dont care about you are me or my kids or tom skids. They care about winning that election no matter what it takes when it here why do i care to try to ruining the country for my kids theyre already you for me i think theyre rooting for my kids so because its a political issue tom theyre willing to go down this the brewing is they seem to make some kind of a low point. It it is and its frightening to me i mean what i would have loved to have seen as this pandemic struck up and you know right after resigning well phase one trade deal with china which to me was more transactional than transformative but what i wouldve loved to have seen with real leadership was rather than plans to seize all game were going country has to be down for the other one. Imagine if rather than wait a path were on. If she didnt name and donald trump. All the world together lets find a way to address this pandemic this Health Care Crisis in the economic tsunami that its only imagine if we were sitting down not trying to find a 0 sum game of politics that is i think it was tip oneill said all politics are local and youre seeing this nationals in politics play out not only in the United States but also was she in china ok its all very counterproductive gentlemen im going to jump in here were going to go to a short break into that your bridge well continue our discussion on the new cold war against john stamos our. International memorial awards are now open for entries all media professionals are eligible whether youre a freelance journalist who work for alternative media who are part of the global News Platform to participate sunday published works and video all written for much go to award dot altie dot com and then to now. Please. Give me my best made up with him and we said. This is not a plan but im also the most companies he knows. Of when i meet. Companies humans get all of the school even though he goes from getting notices from to say he has put to you. Some of them. Its enough. To see that in the middle you kind of. Think. In this in that clip that you come to your list. So to. Speak is the. 54 jets and more than 1300 military personnel are headed to heal some air force base in alaska where is that to say come on ill show you whats the reason for any type of enhanced u. S. Military presence in this area rush up. What is it suddenly about the South China Sea that makes it so that it 11000000000 barrels of oil. Take a look at this map who really owns what kind of says no it belongs to us india says no we claim that that belongs to us both of these countries have Nuclear Weapons capabilities there is reason for concern so thats why were going to drill down on this story for you today right here on the news with rick sanchez where you know as we always like to say we do believe by golly its time to do news again. Welcome back to cross not where all things are considered im peter about to remind you were discussing china. Ok let me go back to jim in singapore listen its kind of prodding out the discussion here lets not let me ask some very simple questions number one is china the military threat to the United States. Not at the moment i dont think america has enough Nuclear Bombs they could blow up every city in china if they had to so i doubt seriously if in 2020 china is a military threat to the us your know it might be someday but not today we might not time that now thats one of the things thats being you know thats one of the solutions to the problem which you think is just our counterproductive in comparison and especially on the 1st of the program we have you know we have the leading arms control official of the United States saying that if necessary we can and does spend them into oblivion i mean if you think that this is just mind boggling here i mean ok i agree the United States and china are competitors they may be adversaries ok and its certainly not a of a reason if you are not contemplating military action because it seems to me that military action is at the very end of the spectrum if you feel definitely threatened and were nowhere close to that right now but it seems thats one of the 1st positions they jump to is how can we tarry do what the chinese. But actually been economic bombs that have been dropped and as jim pointed out this is all about a 6 month strategy for the next the next 6 months although everything about elections you know remember after 911. 00 toby keith the Country Music singer you know courtesy of the red white and blow in your ass its the american way and we tend to. Default to that and that line strategy again going to war with a 2nd heart just World Economy going to war with one sex one. Of the worlds humanity seems absolutely ludicrous to me but it may be just enough to get enough votes to keep a particular person an hour or more here. One of the things that she and him being doesnt have to worry about is an election hes a president later for life. You know i want to ask you what is the threat i mean i dont know i well i know you you know i have to say man so i dont see a threat i mean it this way trying to surrounded by military bases that china is surrounded by a myriad of alliances that the United States is involved in that is gets very complicated could get out of control one mistake and we could have august like the borders you know and thats why i think that you know these alliances create more security threats than the levy 8 ok but that may be a topic for another another program here but you know one of the things i find very sons may being a trained historian who want to address this the both of you is that weird been discounted from him it seems to me is that you know for the western domination even when gemini of the world is it is about a 500 year times it was a 5 member years and and we know a lot of people fail to remember they didnt leave they doing these colonizers they dont go out looking. Her for the gold or silver they would have been cross about because they wanted to bring christianity to the world at the very end at the very basis that say its a missionary messianic impetus here well to. The west is largely christian ok but that in this is still there that we must we must bring our values to others because we know better they jumped and its such a mind it is almost impossible to confront because it is a it has a messianic religious tenets to rip and look out the the treatment of china is in the present china must be brought to heel to the real ok i mean look this is your deconstruct back to language ok i mean its very or oriental this view of the rest of the world go ahead in the middle east has experienced the last steps and lets point out. Well one of the things i think look at is the one thing we are quick is that you know i remember my 1st trip to china and 89 walking down a building on a bun and shanghai and seeing a map of the world from a chinese perspective because up until that point every map of the globe i saw United States was dead center of my i had to rub my eyes i bought one of those maps to remind me that not everybody sees the world from our own perspective tremendous eyeopener for me as a young guy in his thirtys my 1st trip to china that happened or inside i would tenements where im so i think we need to take a broader view the world and i understand some of that history that that you were talking about it or. You did it every every every country does this the french did its a spanish did you you said before we were going to save the world from christianity the russians did it the russians are going to save the world from mr marx i mean nobody will know quite is a marxist anymore they all want to be rich but you know this is the way human beings have worked for thousands of years we are better than they are and they should do what we say. Well i mean because youre my me baby have nucular weapons thats got the difference im saying you know what im saying this is a lousy and i dont mind you is not understand so im still with jim on this one here i mean read it closer to home as americans this is this american exceptionalism that im talking about and even questioning that you know youre been thrown out of the church as it were ok you cant you cant say that well you actually shouldnt say it because american exceptionalism as a practice now has been practice for decades is against the National Interest of the country and various people ok for its people all right and again you know when you vote your letter focusing on the election fair game here but when that elections over and it was endemic has been stamped out look at the records left behind and you want to start a trade war with china i mean wow well thats a hair brained ideas theres a use of doing it america is exceptional where the largest debtor nation in the history of the world the debts the skyrocketing every day i mean we were too much to go 6 months ago our debts for copper has and the last month or 2 theyve added another few trillion trillion whether t. To the american debt yeah thats exceptionalism no agent arrogant for. Us got into this situation has gotten out without a probably did you say a crisis where you want to if you want to add to it you want to have it you want the adversary the new enemy to buy your t. Bills so you can. Emanate up ok even if they want you to buy the debt but youre the enemy ok thats an exceptional interesting situation go ahead tom you want to jump in im doing absolutely i mean thats the point that i was going to make is that theres not a buyer that we continue to rack up a lot of this issue to me and never President Trump in a master it is. Getting the American People to cheat chase the next over what we should be really doing in america is looking more and addition and multiplication as opposed to division and traction and what i mean by that is we need to begin to invest in the American People when i go to china and use we chat i dont have to touch her and say i can we chat anything and everything when i can get on a bullet train and go from beijing to shanghai which used to be at 10 or 12 or in our train trip and now i can do in a few hours china has begun to sebastian we need to be doing is investing in education and infrastructure and workforce training and retraining so that as the kids that are now 30 years old work in a factory those jobs are not going to be there in the future and theyre not going to pay a livable wage here whats wrong in until america begins to quit pointing to the other guy and begins to invest in the American People in the American Economy were going to continue to have this false choice in front and its very sad in trouble they didnt think jim you know going to be again were even reading that the Mainstream Press where theyre not a lot very many intelligent people you know but the pentagon needs more money for its you know to finish the pivot to asia you know its always welfare for the military Industrial Complex but not is always pointing out here you know in this. Conflict too in this sphere right now its whos going to be best in r. And d. And thats that is this is this is what defined this adversarial conflict and now its almost nobody in washington seems to get it ok. Well unfortunately the next 4 years going to be you know on the internet are with with electronics yes somebody has got some troops are going to have to go and explain you know whoever wins but know that the generals fight. Last war has been that happening throughout history the next story is going to be electronic and unfortunately for us as americans china turns out Something Like 10 or 20 times as many engineers every year as we do in america a la the mobile ad engineers im sure but some of them are very good you heard of ali baba youve heard of by do youve heard of you know 10 cent i mean some of those engineers a good and some of them are sitting in your rajahs figuring out how to ruin america and here what we can add to that tom a lot of the engineers in the general produced in the United States are foreign born i just would like to point that out ok its true you have a player theres a good cartoon that goes out that says americans always want to see a market strong in math and science and then they showed a picture and a picture shows American Children of indian and chinese descent theyre performing very well in those areas and that is exactly the the point is that china doesnt have to get it right for all of its people with 1. 51. 6000000000 trying day and people they dont have to get it right for all they say get it right or some are in education is really going to be the future sitting in an American University likely to. As a future president a later. One of the message that those individuals are hearing and seeing what kind of relationships are they dont. Between the most important bilateral relationship in the world today when you think about it every major world issue is going to intersect at the corner of beijing and washington d. C. So how our respective leaders whether its our current leaders or future dealing with these issues are going to impact the people of china the people of the United States and for that matter all of humanity thats why the stakes are so bloody hot. Let me give you the last 20 seconds here because unfortunately you know the way the u. S. Is constructed is every 4 years but toms absolutely right its the rise as much of 20 seconds go ahead my daughter just came back from china every 5th grader in china spends one hour per day on coding i live in singapore we dont even do coding is staying up for much less in iowa why now would per day for 10 year olds. I think that is the best way to end this program because it shows the difference the earth and whos creating a buyable future and who is not ok i want to thank my guests in the north and in singapore and i want to take our viewers for watching us your r. T. C. A next time remember. Problem drugs dont always come from unscrupulous dealers but from pharmacies to every state in the United States weve seen a very sharp increase in the number of people seeking treatment for addiction to prescription opioids it invaded america under the banner of medicine persisted with the pain but instead of trying to wean him off though she did. Their dose after dose after dose and really became his drug dealer so whos to blame patients doctors manufacturers or the government. We go to work you straight home. Well coming up viewers from around the world live from Central London this is not a you can. Quite frankly id want to write. An inquiry into that matter is a very good use of time. Promise of course johnson rejects calls for an inquiry into his chief advisors of lockdown visit to the room as he faces politics most powerful committee im joined by the former deputy mayor of london under Boris Johnson roger evans shortly. As it got approved and says the worst Case Scenario has been averted in the russian capital and says the moscow shops will slowly begin to reopen next month. And a reporter blames u. K. Health service privatisation for the ongoing failures to get protective kit to medics and carers treating coronavirus patients on the frontline. Homes in london are revealed to be hit by the virus twice as hard as other regions such as one hosts dr 3 visits to enable residents to meet with their families ill be joined by the chair of the independent care group a little it. Prime minister Boris Johnson is continuing to take questions from the influential Commons Liaison Committee with the lock down behavior of his chief adviser a top of the agenda the Prime Minister rejected calls for an inquiry into Dominic Cummings a look down trip to dublin but m. P. s on the Committee Say his actions have undermined public trust ill take a shot it was dusty has all the latest shes here with me in the studio whats the pm have to say for himself and so of course this committee is there tourists for being one of the toughest ones in westminster in fact so groaning that the Prime Minister has missed them twice before now since hes become the Prime Minister and. Thing that was actually really mentioned and hounded upon Boris Johnson by the beginning of the committee now of course on top of the edge and out was the dominic sarka saga we know that downing street were hoping to really start this story of oxygen Boris Johnson ready defending his right hand man but saying that Dominic Cummings acted reasonably legally and with integrity so he was ready facing a grilling from m. P. s today why have you not invited the cabinet secretary to conduct its own independent inquiry in order to give you independent advice quite frankly i do not certain right now turning mari into that matter is a very good use of issue time working flat out on credit cards i actually think that you can quite brief believe in me that you can appear to sacrifice a credibility in. Your own government just to stand by your man youve done something never seen done in the 20 years ive been in the house somehow managed to make a nice and condemnation and indignation over your huntly of mr cummings a lot of what was written and said over saturday and sunday was false in respect of my baes or it wasnt corrected you see ford has been well ill call a pig i am sorry so the pain as i say the anguish and the heartbreak of so many people in this country as Prime Minister he said this number of the allegations that i made about dominick rings was false you were within 6 hours east see the evidence to prove. Meg i you know i dont want to get on to the mr is a simple question you have your answer did you see the evidence i dont want to go into much more and ive said a serious question did you see the evidence i will if you please i would say yes i did the reason youre not giving people a straight answer is because you are trying to protect dont make coming to the east central im going to help to say fudgie things unclear things because you are trying not to incriminate Dominic Cummings i think my choices are the choice of the british people i want us all to make it at and that is a as far as he possibly can to live side of the Party Political point scoring and to put the national impressed 1st. So the key sentiment and really questions are whether the public anger will transcend into a public readiness to flout the lockdown measures themselves of course many will be asking the question of if Dominic Cummings one of the men behind these rules can break them or at least bend them then why cant they as well the harshest words then coming from pete wishart arguing that Boris Johnson is sacrificing the credibility of the government to defend Dominic Cummings in response Boris Johnson himself saying this is not the time to play Party Politics and in fact angry m. P. s should simply move on to other more crucial pressing matters when it comes to dealing with the pandemic as a whole so Boris Johnson really facing uncomfortable moments not just about Dominic Cummings but looking at the governments strategy from test track and trace to p. P. To care homes if felt like forest roads was really trying to do a lot of wiggle room to distract from the arguments around Dominic Cummings and Boris Johnson actually managed to commit to presenting a new track and Trace Program as of tomorrow to try and lower the risk of transmission he says he will be getting steadily better to becoming a world leading operation however when it comes to the issue of testing that was also brought up the Prime Minister was asked a simple question of why did it take well until april at the heights of the pandemic to introduce a selfimposed deadline of 100000 tests every single day by the end of april Boris Johnson saying that actually that it was a very difficult thing to implement and the government didnt have the capacity to do so he did put in fact a goal to get test results in 24 hours theyre holding back on a target and committing to that fully saying hes been forbidden to give announce any more talk its or deadlines he was also then asked about the issues of lifting the lockdown measures of course we know on monday the government is in. Looking to reopen schools across the country for Primary School children will see some nonessential shops reopening to come on the 15th of june were looking at retail shops to reopen to many saying that is too soon and in fact the Education Committee chair mentioned that there will be a decade of education poverty as a result bars johnson saying that he will support measures to level up and try and leave yet social justice so this meeting this Liaison Committee meeting is still ongoing for a start and not quite out of the fire pit just yet but the crucial Crucial Point today it does seem like a bit of a spanish inquisition for the Prime Minister but hes standing by his right hand on that cummings shirt here thank you very much indeed world to discuss this further im now joined by the former deputy mayor of london under Boris Johnson roger reverends roger how do you feel now Boris Johnsons sticking to the script but the story really wont go away when it well its been an interesting session today and it covered a lot of other issues as well as Dominic Cummings of course they look at testing social distancing at measures to bringing down the law and all these things i think in the longer term we will see as being more important than the furore around 11 adviser so i think hes right to actually talk about the other things because when it comes to the end of this we can have a review of whats happened and also look at mr cummings behavior as a part of that review but right now i think the media of got their priorities wrong and the government needs to be tackling the viruses well the media be impressed by the way Boris Johnson is handling this you work closely with john so whats going on in his head of the moment well lot of things that i would say about boris isnt usually as a politician that hes actually very loyal to the people who work for him its certainly something ive never experienced with other politicians or indeed other people in business who ive worked for and its very. Refreshing it means that he gives you a bit of room to actually make your own decisions and you know that youve got the backing of the bus and thats why so many people want to work for him and why he gets great loyalty from the people who work for him and whats what about small to the nation in iraq have more to tory voters lord c. To tory m. P. Everyone is very very angry about this cummings is gonna go all boris has to go. I think its an exaggeration to say that everyone is very angry the media are very angry and a whipping this up into a stall boris is actually making a longer term decision here dominic coming to someone who is very important for delivering the Governments Program which of course will include helping us out of the economic problems of coronavirus which we will have to deal with when weve dealt with the initial problems of the blindness so hes made that calculation that its important to keep cummings in place for the help he can provide in longer term you know actually nothing would be easier than for boris to fire him this self to noon and move on and stop the conversation going on around him but hes made the decision he needs this guy there for the longer term and for the good of the country but doing a u. Turn in far incomings wouldnt look great for Boris Johnson would it. So it wouldnt look great in the other problem with doing a u. Turn in that way of course as it would create take precedent that the media can fire people if you remember with the whole pretty patel bullying allegations a few months ago boris stood by her because a precedent would have been created the media could go after anyone and hes doing the same thing again here theres a pattern emerging and actually with an 80 seat majority its something the government is able to do which it might not have been able to do of course if it was still a Hung Parliament or had a very narrow majority so roger said we must move on and as you mentioned. We talked about all sorts of other issues important issues but in a way he was perhaps distracting away from cummings with this talk of lowering the virus threat level test and trace. Where will this actually when the spillway meets yes the committee did ask questions about it so it wasnt that he was bringing the lab ok when it will this blow away then this story. I think it wont blow away in the law in the short term but when this is all behind us and we look at the lessons that weve got to learn i think there are a lot of lessons not just for the u. K. But for the rest of the world to learn i think the cummings issue will be a pretty small footnote siggins the word to the wider issues here roger really good to talk to you thank you very much indeed for joining us roger evans. Well lets take a look at how coronavirus is impacting the 4 nations of the United Kingdom and according to government figures there have been more than 37400 deaths across the u. K. N. H. S. England has reported 183 hospital deaths since yesterday the scottish 1st minister has announced a further 13 across all settings and wales has reported 11 and Northern Ireland 2 scottish politicians are calling for an urgent Public Inquiry into scotlands approach to care homes during the outbreak 1st minister faced questions over an alleged rush to discharge patients into homes without testing back in march and the a Welsh Ambulance service says the patients are becoming more and more towards crew members and they all seem to wear face masks says mr t. Has been on the rise for some facing physical assault. And Northern Ireland has been warned a number of its Freight Companies are set to go bust despite easing blocked the Freight Transport Association predicts that while firms may have survived across this period many will fail in the coming months. Lets have a look at the global numbers and more than 5600000 people have been infected this is according to johns. Hopkins university which collates worldwide data as we can see that over 2300000 recoveries be made in over 351 falls and died. Well the question of mall squaring has become a point of political divide in the us it comes as joe biden hits back at President Trump was mocked for wearing a mosque on memorial day and swedens former chief epidemiologist to really support the countrys no lockdown policy has made a dramatic u. Turn thinks we should have imposed greater restrictions and that it was rolled out not to shut down. Still to come for you here and you k. President Vladimir Putin says the worst case virus has been averted in the russian capital we hear from our correspondent in moscow. And the care homes in london are revealed to be his father who was twice as hard as other regions ill be joined by the chair old independent. World is. Shaped by phone person. Thinks. We dare to ask. During an Online Meeting with moscows met president Vladimir Putin has said the worst case pandemic scenario has been averted in the russian capital thats the shops will slowly begin to open in moscow next month as you got it all of has more. Moscow is starting to get back to normality indeed a lot of news took the most a message is about in an online Video Conference and essentially now most local authorities here in the russian capital they have rolled out the table that a plot least plan a very short measures as to how the russian capital will be getting back to normality it is indeed as you mentioned it implies the opening of the monsoon still is also gradually reopening natural. Lot of people having well slowly to open them and let people walk in that their hooks and stocks reopen businesses that do not imply a close human contact like for instance the dry cleaners but perhaps even more importantly now moss who is ready to help the region because for instance the russian capital has a source of dissent in new coal but in 1000 cases compacting 2 weeks ago more people are being released from hospitals than admit to them so now that i know that there are a few patients here on the mall not that many will see time on their hands they are ready to share their knowledge to ostend their knowledge to other regions of russia was defective by now already most of the leading specialists i mean via Video Conferences they have been doing sending us with that colleagues elsewhere in russia explaining in teaching the posse on their experience as to how to use a people with code 90 and becoming a couple of days the russian capital also said its specialists in other countries then will travel to their excuse and the russian regions of. Where they will be there whether they will be saving patients for instance like doug just on what the lot of a region to region and so on and so forth so this is what is happening in russia. So it was mostly a steady. Rest of the brush is now looking for a. Capital and its ready to deliver. A reporters blame privatizing the ongoing failures to get protective kit to medics and cameras treating patients on the front line while the government insists the situation is improving campaigners say a simplified accountable supply chain is desperately needed. Only reports the british governments handling of the covert 1000 crisis has come in for sharp criticism especially given the country has the highest death toll in europe 2nd only to the usa globally while measures Virus Testing and the seeming hypocrisy of those who put the strategy together of all with on the mark possibly the most controversial has been the ability or inability to source personal protective equipment for those on the front line i think its been its been a real tragedy but more than a tragedy its been a scandal because what weve seen time and time again is that the government. Is you know actually undermining the very organization the n. H. S. And help us get out of bed as many as 200 n. H. S. And Health Care Staff believed to have died with the virus across hospitals and other settings with relatives blaming a lack of kids and even the British Medical Association backing those doctors who refuse to work without it now reported lay the blame with the Health Service the supply chain and in particular the privatization of the 70000000000 pound procurement process the study by we own its a Public Ownership Advocacy Group says the breakup of the chain into as many as 11 out for contracts means financial efficiency and the backdrop to this is that they got. And have been cutting and privatizing our n. H. S. For over 10 years you know so the n. H. S. Doesnt have the level of funding that it needs and the kind of element that preventing that we see in places like germany and run according to the report the government could task Civil Servants with sourcing the kit for the Health Service directly from private Companies Instead the Government Asks private companies which selects and suppliers who in turn select those firms making specific items like gallons or mosques as well as those who deliver the kits and h. S. Trusts of even told not to source their kit but to go through the centralized system and while supporters of privatization say competition saves money the report estimates that the middlemen cost 190000000. 00 pounds in fees alone and there have been high profile examples of system breakdown take those 400000 gallons from turkey an aria plane went to collect all were found to be below medical standard and useless for frontline staff but despite the obvious issues the government has previously defended its approach to procure months of p. P. I can announce that we have now signed contracts to manufacture 2000000000 items of p. P. Here in the u. K. I set a National Challenge and im absolutely delighted that lord dighton has stepped up and is helping us to deliver against it. Around the world weve signed deals with over 100 new suppliers including green contracts for a further 3700000000. While we continue to improve the logistics and work hard to get everyone the p. P. That they need these new supplies mean that were not simply keeping up with demand we are now able to begin to replenish our stock we also the problem for health and social care for direct response to the reports on the impact of privatisation on the process but didnt get back to us but we do know that profit and efficiency thinking suppose that saving very unlike you know people event. Happened over people so you know the job of the Health Service is to make sure that we can all be healthy that we can be had or. You have to plan ahead you have to have an emergency stockpile you have to be ready for a pandemic the government hasnt been ready inquiry into the coronavirus sponsors expected to cover the scientific advice and the political Decision Making at every stage of the pandemic but campaigners believe a more fundamental review into the close relationship between private companies and government is paramount if oversight and accountability are to be achieved especially given that the end result in this case is a life or death issue is sally r. T. U. K. The current of us death rate in care homes in the capital is twice as high as an other regions in england the office for National Statistics has revealed that there have been 4. 7 related deaths in london per 100 beds and that contrasts with just over 3 per 100 in the north east and west and that falls to between 2. 5 and 2. 8 across the west and east midlands east england yorkshire and the southeast the lowest number has been. In the southwest just under 2 fatalities per 100. 00 the monterey care home and ask it has set up a drive through system to allow its residents to meet with their loved ones for the 1st time in months families can talk to their relatives while staying in their vehicles or some holding panels with loving messages handmade signs and in the us. Well or for more on these figures and are joined by the chair of independent care group a mike. Good to see you thank you for joining us now youre there in the northeast so why the regional variation some authorities are doing better than others yes i think thats reflected on the general density of beds across england you know there are the same amount in different parts of the country but there are shows in london its particularly shocking to show those figures and also reflects i think what happened generally but kobi lumbers harvest perspective thats why in my view weve got to be very very careful about these in the lockdown that we do not get a 2nd spike in london hardest hit but didnt cope very well why is that why couldnt it handle this crisis. Well i think it was down to the fact that unfortunately in social care we were was 2nd in in the front line along the n. H. S. In the n. H. S. Quite rightly was held up to be top priority but care homes should be very close to that because social care has been ignored for many for far too long and thats the reason i believe that the figures are worse in may they could have been is that changing now or are conditions improving from your experience where you are particularly comes to p. P. Well i think theres a long way to go yeah search has always been underfunded for more than 2 decades i think that one positive the might come out this or pandemic was that social care is no longer a Cinderella Service in respect of p. P. A. And testing our p. P. Is gradually improving i say gradually. But testing i believe is still an issue because i understand the still only very few residents have been tested in cairns and i believe in early june governments that are already has to be tested so its got a long way to go on the issue of the p. P. Is not so much an ounce of ice the cost because in some cases its rising by many 0. 10 and thats very difficult because a lot of the money the guns given hasnt yet found its way through to the front line and yet there we have the Health Secretary talking about a protective ring around care homes in you see any sign of that. It doesnt feel like it from where i am and i think many of my close would agree i think were beginning to attention now but sadly that was in many governments gifts in the past but social care on an equal footing hasnt happened and i think thats part the reason well made the inquiry into what happened it was just say that social care was ignored so no trans your question it doesnt feel like were protected we have to make sure that were not forgotten in the future and also this relative of the discharging of patients back to homes without having at a test for coronaviruses that theres got to be an inquiry into this sure thing. Yes i believe that that will come out even in car and i think to an extent some i believe that has lessened to an extent now but i can speak from personal experience only last week that we had to refuse admission to one of our own homes someone who hadnt even been tested in the early days course that was a mandatory it is now in no home should be accepted be without a test because we need to make sure we stop the spread of this pandemic and cans of sick leave on a do so testing is the absolute top priority but for how have care homes been able to cope with patients who have been tested because i was talking to the other day whos whos proposing to set up a separate wing with separate staff but of course thats more and more resources and is that realistic to do that. Well i think its a challenge for homes in many homes across the country have had. Zones in the homes to keep the staff and other cant separate but i guess this is where we feel as providers we caught between a rock in our place we want to do our bit to help the country and how the hospitals we also want to do our bit to help our existing a residence understaffed so the 2 dont always sit very well together and i do believe it is possible for in the government guards to happy people in a home if you take the right cautions because nowhere is is risk for a unfortunately you say no as risk free just funny thoughts on the talk of a 2nd wave will care whos better cope with that if that does happen. What is a big worry of course some and as is the fine where the rain join the military people who do see much more relaxed but that is a big fear for us because obviously our staff who are mentally can sometimes bring into homes theyre going to be socializing or in the future and when is it going to end so we are worried about that will we be able to be pretty well would be prepared better this time we were last time but it is a vicious vicious disease so were going to work very hard to maintain and eradicate eventually but its another worry for us thats why we want the government to look at reforming social care are to get it more united because at the minute its very just difficult and thats one of the reasons its suffered more than Health Services like thank you for talking to us they are my passion. And that said more news in a half an hour and yet more from the u. K. Government and the daily Coronavirus Press briefing. Give me a. Couple he said. Just said. Theres enough. 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Take a look at this map who really owns what kind of says no it belongs to us india says no we claim that that belongs to us both of these countries have Nuclear Weapons capabilities there is reason for concern so thats why were going to drill down on this story for you today right here on the news with rick sanchez where you know as we always like to say we do believe by golly its time to do news again. Thanks guys its financial survival guess. What