Negative side in some respects or because of americas or about unique medical system. But theres still this perception that the United States is the most exceptional place in the world that it was a guy but it hasnt guided during this pandemic nor has anyone actually asked the United States the guy it seems the this myth about american exceptionalism is his kind of lost its way because reality and facts on the ground a way that what do you think. Yeah theyre made to be seen whether if we go back to the new normal or the old normal what will what will remain but certainly its been shown to be a hollow shell and many of us thought that all along aside from its obvious military strength the idea that if the u. S. Doesnt lead the rest of the world everyone will run around bumping into each other has been shown to be absolutely false when in fact if anything if weve learned anything from these past few months its United States. Its hundreds or thousands of petty bureaucrats whove been running around bumping into each other no one seems to know what to do issuing orders getting a reissuing more orders so it really does expose a Hollow Center of whats passed as american exceptionalism over the years you know it george is as every country has made efforts to flatten the curve as they say well that may be true in the United States depending on what state you want to refer to but certainly the middle class and working class people have been more than flattened ok and at the same time threatening military action against iran venezuela sanctions against this country sanctions against that country it really is quite amazing when you see the the the economy crater in the United States theres still these global ambitions where its hard for them to cough up money for working people but more and more money has to be put into the military because in china ok not russia china i mean again it seems to me that you know these people in power live in a bubble they could care less about the condition of the average american and the whole way have is these these ambitions that if the last few decades of is an example always end in failure in misery go ahead george. Thats right but american exceptionalism the has never meant america as a model of Good Governance or america as the provider of Government Services or america as a place of equality or anything like that american exceptionalism has always meant america the right of the United States to interfere in theyd attack sanction other countries. At will and as you point out this is going on right now at this very moment theyre still doing this i guess threatening war d on iran and frightening war on this well or no one sanction is to be lifted the case anyone anyone you know people are just dropping dead. Left right and center and no the sanctions must stay in place so thats thats thats what the u. S. Policy is now as far as. The america is mediocre performance yes but america has always domestically been a mediocre performer even at the height of the american supremacy during the cold war or even in the uni polar world immediately after the cold war i mean it was america was always redell with gross inequality terrible social and economic problems racial problems so that has never been the course of American Power in the back and power as the military power and of course the supremacy of the dollar and that that hasnt changed except for the way the dollar is being used as a weapon is actually devaluing the dollar left and white and very quickly by the way very quickly here you know danny one of the interesting to things too is that you know a part of this exceptionalism is at its core it least if society is democracy but we just had new york cancel a primary just cancel it ok i mean it. And what you see is this rule by fear ok because it never is about democracy and yet they used to use it then they still do for abroad and no one doubted it at home but ever since 2016 to the present even democracy itself is in doubt and Civil Liberties now and ive been following you with great pleasure on facebook about your trials and tribulations and where are you living i mean where you can walk how you can walk when you can walk somewhere with oh you can walk i mean again you know exporting democracy quote unquote it doesnt apply to the democracy of the United States of america. No it has exposed the tyranny unfortunately even down to local officials you know we have a a 29 year old Harris County judge Harris County is a county in which houston lysis 3rd largest city in the United States shes not an attorney shes 29 years old and she issues a decree that Harris County shuts down and thats it and if you open up you go to jail in fact a little while ago she issued she issued another proclamation that you better wear a face mask if youre outside you get a 1000. 00 sign to go to joe 6 months this woman is not in the legislature she has no power or authority to make laws in this issue throughout the country you look at california when governor knew someone who is a real tyrant so you cant go to the beach california says screw you or go to the beach they went to the beach and he threw a hissy fit and put on another commission that sent out a bunch of cops you know there are a bunch of cocky dressed as you know military type who dressed capitol in sacramento there were snipers on the roof for a peaceful protest how many mothers were arrested i think about 14 mothers or arrested by these thugs cops really the the brutal nasty core has been exposed in the United States and i would say this directly relates to our Foreign Policy i agree is when you have a Foreign Policy of murder. And mayhem overseas eventually it comes home to roost and thats what were seeing right now in the u. S. I will tell you we are in a pretty revolutionary a pretty civil war situation us with people who are protesting increasingly armed increasingly desperate increasingly hungry against tyrants like new some in cuomo and whitmer and many others so its a very dangerous situation the u. S. Right now you have been george youre just trying to protect the people you know its like you know they had to invade iraq you legally in occupied illegally to help the iraqi people ok and american troops must de interact to help the iraqi people what are they going to stop helping the iraqi people. As it was or any was absolutely right when we have regime change playbook abroad has come home you know in the experimented on the American People in the 2016 election was there there was there for winning page ok to show that when they can do iraq in syria in venezuela they can succeed at home they had to salute it absolutely and what will we have learned. During the past week as there was a clear conspiracy within the deep state to oust the elected president S National Security adviser general clint i mean they its there its in black and why they wrote it down the way were im going to get out of office who are these people these are essentially just secret policemen i mean theyre you know working in the f. B. I. You know the Domestic Intelligence i was very you know this and this is the worst kind of you know plotting and yet its now out as accepted as perfectly legitimate and you get the media defending of what is essentially a coup i mean here it is if i dont know you know what its about george you know i did get away with it because lee of horror the electorate abhorred their leaders say they find no value with them whatsoever. Its really extraordinary here you know and there again theyre doing it for her own good ok i have very mixed feelings about donald trump believe me ive made program after program about him both of you have been on those programs but you cant have it both ways either you have a democratic process or you dont ok you cant have it in the middle you cant cherry pick daniel and thats exactly what theyre doing and the more they cherry pick what our rights can be when they cant be in who can represent the more they are there devaluing it and making and people and that the most common word ive been using the last few weeks of my program is pitchfork ok because this is what people are going to start thinking ok when you have a you know the. Presenter on c. N. N. Living in his basement you know and then he comes up like a lot as a read out from death you know but he was outside he was talking with people going on a real estate run ok to buy expensive property and then they present this fraud on Television People notice this stuff ok frauds rule over us. Thank you rule over reson hypocrites rule over us you know over the weekend i went out to a local dive bar kind of a biker bar that has been closed down by the authorities like all restaurants in texas been closed down she says im desperate to write my last check my account is empty i want to open up to people who want to come here and enjoy themselves and im going to do it in defiance of the state well the sheriff the next day gave her a warning will arrest you if you do that or something extraordinary happened a group called texas open carry showed up with about a 100 or so automatic weapons and surrounded the property and guess what she was able to continue serving her willing customers the rest of the day im not endorsing this kind of response when im simply doing is saying that people are desperate and theyre taking things into their own hands and i quite frankly am a super comfortable with guns in many ways but you can see the desperation in americans faces like this woman like this businessman well at the same time what about the Big Box Stores what about the well connected executives the huge corporations oh you can open you can do all the business you watch so its really a divide youre right that despising of the electorate the spicing of the middle class the working class is now laid bare for everyone to see. You know you know george one of the things about exceptionalism that is really quite interesting is that if you question it and were in no were good were considered you know. Beyond the pale doing this program for even mentioning it you think doubting it because i just look at it and a hollowed out sake of ideology it doesnt pursue produce results i mean results driven person i might daniel ok i mean if it works well lets consider it ok but i dont i dont have ideological blinders ok but if you doubt exceptionalism you are beyond the pale. Now that that is absolutely right and the response to the pandemic is a very illustrative because while the United States has the in droning on of the. 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Welcome back to cross talk where all things are considered im getting a bell to remind you were discussing american exceptionalism. Lets go back to george before we went to the break and we were talking about the nature and definition of exceptionalism one of the interesting thing is this 22 years ago when mad now. Secretary of state albright said that america stands in them because because it sounds cold or it can see further ive always been really quite remarkable that shes a very short woman that you could make that statement but. The interesting thing is that if youre an indispensable country that indispensable country that means all other countries are suspended will mean just by definition and that has a meaningful knock are because with the end of the cold war the receding of the unit whole moment and this pandemic is an example you have what european allies are saying what is it what do we need this for ok you want to dictate our trade our Energy Relations were assigning us enemies. And on top of that youll say action ok if we dont do what youre told i mean the indispensable countries really making everyone else. Yes yes and exactly the case so you get. The United States which through its aggressive policies is creating headaches for d its its socalled allies in europe the instability that is created in north africa and the middle east led directly to the mass migration which led to a political up here was throughout europe and its always the case United States spreads chaos but the cost of the chaos a picked up by others whereas Something Like this pandemic and the pandemic was entirely predictable in 4 pandemics are as old as Human History itself i mean but its always been around there was a pandemic in 2000. And spray the saas. So its not like this came as a complete surprise and yet no preparations have been made so while 2 you know i say it was messing around in iraq you know completely ridiculous invasion why its been threatening iran for no obvious reason why its been in cycling and antagonizing russia its done no preparations whatsoever for something that was entirely false a about and how again everyone this time the americans themselves having to live with the consequences yeah well you know daniel you spending 700000000000 dollars a year on the military but they cant make a medical masks ok i think that really says a lot right there ok and with this pandemic what weve seen is this. Pounding of the little class and working people theres still no serious thought of infrastructure whatsoever i have traveled the world i have been different many places and ill tell you the infrastructure in the United States is the barest signal embarrassing for the indispensable country ok and its not even on the agenda to do this ok and then helping the working class people in Small Businesses was an afterthought and it still remains an afterthought i as a conservative dont like injecting money directly with the tax code is thats what thats for but in this case this is an exceptional situation and if you want to have an economy you better save the people that participate in it because this financial ization of the economy doesnt make anything it doesnt make you say ok and all it does is it did it destroys the real economy around the world ok you cant run a global occur economy just on financial ization because theres no underlying foundation of it and as we mentioned in this program earlier its destroying the value of the dollar the dollars value stroy the empire comes to an end very quickly go ahead. Well you know the rule should be 1st do no harm and when in fact what the measures of the u. S. Government is taken to this point are really a kick in the face of the middle class if you talk about injecting 6 trillion dollars into the economy of course to the well connected to the banks to the big corporations none of that money trickles down if anyone doubts that they should have some Small Business owners try to apply for a little bit of help with that money doesnt courses dilute the value of the dollar is going to be huge inflation acts on the working in middle classes so that is the real problem what could be done well theres a lot that can be done but the real danger in the u. S. And what were seeing so clearly from this coronavirus and demick suppose it came and then it is a merger of the corporate and government structures of corporations in the governments are even more closely tied state governors starting to feel some heat about protests a they call of zuckerberg hey you got to you got to kick these people off they spoke they can organize protests what are you talking about bloomberg on the only and only doctors tell you there rick there professionally and experience and knowledge dont let them do that either ok i mean that is extremely just extrapolating what youre saying keep going down no thats true in the end they may be wrong they may be right but we should be able to debate our writing for exceptional we can at least debate he was our brains but he has a next in this coming down the pipe which is a food shortage in the United States what can you do to solve the problem well heres one heres one problem that the us has we have a very very few extremely large corporate meat Packing Companies a corner of the entire market and thats because they collude with the u. S. Government to keep out the small guys what could you do for example Thomas Mesereau republican from kentucky has a bill in to simply relax some of these ridiculous onerous regulations on on solar houses and meat Packing Companies in allow the small guy the Little Farmer to processes food insult directly to the people in his neighborhood in his state in his Community Boom the problem the crisis is gone but they dont want that they want a crisis because crisis means our. You know it its very interesting george is that one of the things thats going to happen here like in 20082009 is a consolidation you could have again this this middle sector of the economy wiped out and you get it in the ones that are still viable attractive theyre going to b