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would be the named the lockdown style stacy. not only are we all living through the uniquely frightening circumstances of the greatest health crisis for 100 years but right no one thought of the population of this planet more than 2000000 people are experiencing some sort of lock down or the strip in social interaction or thumb to emma kelly probably britain's best known behavioral psychologist because of her work and morning television to tell me what advice can be given to people suffering from these unique circumstances and i welcome to the hour when salmon show face value may occur in a moment or 6 clovelly situation where one 3rd of the planet more than 2000000000 people worldwide engaged in some sort of clumped some sort of lockdown of society a government's struggle to cope with the pandemic importance do the social isolation what particular issues design threw up in terms of mental health i hear quite a lot of people saying well the difference between being socially isolated and basically hit and put that presents of mental health issues for example suicidality the differences that you come across that well actually cam so who globally reports 'd that if you are a victim of some day here around you is taken are likely become impressively higher to the chance of taking your own life so actually things like suicidality is catching whether we want to talk about that or otherwise and social isolation is absolutely a precursor of that type of behavior so the idea that people are just managing their mental health whilst completely isolated feeling stripped of their freedom and on top of that not having access to services that they should be having access to which are already overstretched are not very helpful in the most parts of the general population because it just isn't the capacity we absolutely are facing a disaster as far as. health is concerned i am not necessarily consent right now i am hugely concerned about the next 12 months when trauma hits and it's not just about the mental health of individuals who are dealing with those kind of from my mental health issues it's those who are the victims in individuals who are also domestically abusive which affect mental health and that's all around the world i think we're in for a really catastrophic experience in the future and some of the issues which have been thrown up in this crisis the the stories about the elderly not being admitted to the hospital the controversy over have them unity in the outset at least of this crisis in the united kingdom would these are to the the difficulties by making all the people feel that they're regarded as somehow expendable in terms of official policy i think that to be made to feel that you are expendable is a terrifying experience that anybody and don't get me wrong i think it's so important that we have a pragmatism and an acceptance of death i really do but i don't think that we should have a situation where one life seems much more important than another because that would be detrimental to the whole argument of meaning now let's look of the opposite of isolation the family pressures of lot bowmanville euro a mother of 2 to large so any advice you can give to the people how you how you told it proximity as opposed to isolation. one of the most important pieces of advice for any player is i would never lie to you because i'm a useless teacher and i can guarantee that the reason i never trained to be one business because i can't teach my own children i appreciate it so fast that well i think that your small wins are important this time if you're like me and you're not the most able to educate your teenage boys so young children take the pressure off if you can create intimacy and bonding if you can give yourself space and time to just really provide the experience you're having with a situation where there's not a lot of pressure on the education there's a lot of hope and opportunity for you to kind of connect to the family do fun things that would be my number one ticket secondly cabin fever is completely normal it would be really strange features for him to self by the same people day in day out constantly 247 without feeling a bit annoyed at times but the most important thing to remember is when you feel frustrated and angry often it's because you want to externalize it difficult being direct variance say so instead of projecting that and externalizing get just take is that because the reality is that every single emotion we have is a problem so if you are straight it is you not actually being told to go and have a go at one of your children you being told to go come down take some space our feelings scad you being taught to go to sleep it gives you courage and so on and so forth so i think that people living in their own homes with children sometimes in one room that's another thing you know the economic to eat in the u.k. is substantial so know that it's understandable to have these difficult feelings know it's understandable at times to feel that you're not doing the best job with your kids forgotten education accept that that's perfectly alright and recognise that in the end all the people will take over will return to normal reframe that this is moment or a and just connect with the things that give you the most contempt and which in my case is just spending a lot of nice time with my kids not doing them outside with them. let's look at darker side of family relationships clearly at the site of the lockdown that the authorities the police were very worried about an upsurge in domestic violence and abuse they right to be concerned and is that the way that things are playing out. majorly right to be concerned and majorly right to understand that this is how it's going to play out absolutely we know that homicide it's what we know that domestic abuse is so and it's just completely commonsensical you know in does it matter how much training you have or no training the point is that you know that if you take a situation where people are looked with abusive individuals and you don't necessarily have access it saves services that you would have or you may be afraid that even if you are in danger in your home you might also be in danger if you leave it that paradigm in itself is a juxtaposition in danger of that i mean danger in here this is the place i know that for you at risk children are at risk i absolutely am terrified it keeps me up at night this i'm terrified about the children who are being abused in their own homes and their our voices most of the time but what changes their voice is the teacher who notices and it's often the teacher or the friend in the playground to tell or the person that they confide in in dinner hour they're the people who make a difference to those children's lives and right now those kids a locked up with predators in their own home with no voice childline have gone through the roof in children ranging and that's only the kids brave enough to pick up the phone and we know for a fact because we've seen the statistics regarding obese situations in place call outs so this is a real ringback problem like i said my big fear is not necessarily right now in the eye of the storm it's what's going to play out in the next 6 to 12 months when we find out just how catastrophic this was to those kind of individuals i mean personally i've had 4 suicide in the past you know month and a half that it's just been completely out of my experience the such a long time i've never had such a consolidated amount of loss and i imagine that's going to be the same with murders and it's set in the same with domestic abuse and we're clearly some of the most difficult stories that we have individual stories it during this crisis have been people explaining how difficult it has been not to be able to see a proper goodbye of your well to the loved ones that must be extraordinary almost unprecedented situation in terms of the the pressure about some people can you give us some insight them and how families and individuals can handle such such an experience. i think that one of the most important parts of losing someone is ritual and i think ritual in the u.k. might just mean you know we spend a little bit of time with our loved one after the event we might go visit them a funeral home or for more modern we might keep my home we know in places like ireland that's what happens and when you think about the actual funeral you connect with lots of people who commit share stories and you kind of have this moment to react therians where even though it's tragic in all 4 you can just allow yourself to have that mutual community grieving and it's powerful it's really powerful for the fact that that's not going to happen the fact that the only a few of you might be able to even go to the funeral and in that case be socially distancing meaning the don't have the intimacy and connection of the people that you love around and how catastrophic that is certainly having gone through my own father's death and having a big funeral and dealing with all of those experiences you know in quite a linear perspective is still incredibly difficult to manage so to see people now saying goodbye to children at times you know children with life limiting issues that then die and not being able to have that time with them i cannot imagine how that will add to the trauma i can't envisage how anybody will avoid it being traumatizing so i think the nots who are most explored the impact this is mental and physical is something that i think we've got it wrong from really honest about really honest. we've got it wrong is what i think is a lot of. people trying to face some of the practical effects also have severe problems of stress food for the family loss of income loss of job loss of business children's prospects of the going to be able to suffer because of examinations and not being able to have the normal teaching of the stop the serious individual practical pressures that perhaps the much of the official guy is missing leaves the things that bare bone and working families the most deprived community the most disenfranchised individuals within the. opportunity they are the ones already suffering communities they've already been suffering in my life's work to try to highlight what can those communities to munchen that adding layer rethink anything even more problematic for them really short sighted and i do think at the moment the reason that people aren't allowing themselves to think about the church because it doesn't really scary and it comes back down to the only time that we can really help people from emotional mental health and wellness and that comes down to me in the hierarchy of needs if one doesn't listen to view the could be mental health tidal wave. of this health crisis other than some things that we might be able to cling on to to make society better in the aftermath of this terrible epidemic. but years and years in is psychologists therapists all of the people who are commensal wellness and charities have said there is a very simple rule to happiness and that the western philosophy denies it takes you away it says by this and you'll be happy by that and you'll be happy and we've been telling you forever listen look at your physical how look at your nutritional health look at your mental health surround yourself with people who love you and get you and don't worry about people that don't know you and don't care for you spend time doing things that you're passionate for and also remember that whilst you're breathing and you're dealing with the winter of this world you are rich beyond measure stop by again to the capitalist myth that makes you unhappy they follow your own dreams and stick with the people who follow them with you that is the recipe so if you want to know why you've been happy cheering this pandemic mostly it's because you've spoken to your neighbors 'd you spent time missing the people that you love you've been joy about the fact that the so many community measure is taking place and you felt part of something they could the new take that rest of pay a make it the rest of your life because that is your answer. and we're coming from manchester thank you very much indeed take care. joining us after the break will focus attention on the mental pressure being suffered by those on the front line in the killing professional services as they struggle to cope with the cloud of violence crisis. we go to work so you straight home. use to do most of their sort of in the group. we need who are keeping bird. shit out. just like it was going to do it. here definitely walking into words all in all we no longer know what we're walking into. march. what she needs to break she. needs anything is. possible. to. seemed wrong. but old rules just don't. mean you get to shape out just to become educated and engaged with equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart. just to look for common ground. welcome back but we're going to look at the psychological impact of combating this violence by the people on the front line those in the health service the killing services it was a common as the member of parliament for isco by stephen unless behavior she joins me from so far mix this a common welcome but they are examined to thank you very much now you're believing a cross party group of some 70 parliamentarians members of parliament from westminster members of the house of lords who've been pressing the government very hard on take the initiative to to look at the psychological impact on those in the front line one should immonen tension behind this initiative it's really really important that we treat mental health and physical health the party because what we know is that staff who are on the frontline are going to be seeing saying high levels of trauma we have staff who are losing cawley we have staff who are coping with a high number all through events in workplaces clear the me have been caring for people for many years and those people are sadly dying due to this pandemic we also have very new staff who have come up for training courses and are on the front lines who want to do their best and we know that they're going to be exposed to high levels of trauma are night and very intense long ayers and a cheating high levels all the better to teach and therefore it's only right that really captures the mental well being at this time alongside of their physical health. a former life before you were elected as a member of parliament you what a clinical psychologist in the national health service so you must have a substantial insight into the tecla pressures or of those in the front line. well it's true to say that i fart and for a long time in my career as a psychologist and mental health has been at the forefront of my career prior to coming into parliament is something that we must to very much more in relation to supporting the general public in terms of awareness and seeking help and it's also something that we must protect staff particularly at times of crisis and we know that the world health organization have recommended psychological 1st aid in times when we have crises to deal with and staff are on the front line so we are pressing the government that really the response has to include telephone hotlines it has to include psychological 1st aid to try to prevent pushed back to exchange disorder developing and those start well on the front line care for possible and it also has to involve a longer term plan for psychological interventions for the ones who need more intense support and towards the latter stages and in following waves off the crew in a virus. that develops over time not come and look at some of the pretty well aspects of this. reported and we're all grateful for the national health service does not mean they want well and term for all of this versus violence but nonetheless the a huge pressure on staff members can you give us i'm insight to what these are we know that the working time regulations for doctors have been relaxed and therefore they're working extremely long hours way beyond all in the working time regulations that we reject command for people's safety and well being they want to be doing extra this time they want to be ensuring that patients have care but we have to be really called consent of the impact one day and their mental well being and physical health but also that they're. laves and the overall impact basically they're putting their lives on hold risking themselves and their families there's a huge amount of things i teach regarding having adequate protections in terms of personal protective equipment for doctors and for all staff at the frontline nurses cure workers except so when you combine all those factors and in addition to the trauma that they're going to be exposed to in such high levels at this point in time we know that we have to a lot to support them and in terms of their wellbeing and that we must take a holistic approach to that including mental wellbeing or else for going to have a tsunami of mental health issues after they're stunned and it finishes as we know the violence covered one theme can be fatal for emma be of any age but there has been a particular pressure on older people not just those care homes but people in terms of the social isolation of not be able to to see friends and family and grandchildren what is the substantial psychological impact on our elderly population a more many of these people believe that they're being left behind them in terms of the the government policy absolutely and fact that all party parliamentary group for disability that i to writing to government this speech and we have a meeting with the disability minister by those very issues people are feeling that have been cut off from their support networks and not 16 only important for water adults who perhaps depend upon the care system we need to be making sure that those who are most wonderful and our society in our midst and their adequate support at this point in time that they need to in order to call but what is a massive chain. still i suppose it's an addition to things i see not going to be unexpected that many many people will develop symptoms of depression as if you were isolated and cut a hole from their natural teeth the supports that are very protective factors against mental health problems. response of you had your parliamentary cross party parliamentary group from ministers. are meeting coming up this week but has there been any indications from government able to take on board the point you're making about particular psychological pressure on the killing professionals . yes and very much so i understand from the special advisory group meetings that they have been looking at this in more detail and. there's a hotline that is available for staff quite intact we very much make commended that that extended from any chased after all staff when the front line so that no one is left behind and we're supporting everyone where we need to be doing so but what we need to be doing is teaching at forward in terms of government support for psychological 1st aid as recommended by the world health organization and to prevent exchange disorder wherever possible listen come and we know that some countries thus far managed to handle the pandemic much better than others but are there any examples of international best practice for for those looking at the psychological impact on the caring professions of study the film on the part of those of other countries where do you see inspiration coming from that we should follow in terms of getting the best outcomes for those in the front line we know that with sars and most of the other types of pandemic that have them packed into other countries that the psychological crack bases for people and come in waves that it doesn't come all at one point in time so it's important that we have this long term delivery plan and that's what's needed in terms all supporting mental wellbeing for stocks and not just occupational health level and the n.h.s. excess but for that was in here homes for it's always right across the front line we need access to that but the old school are going to use access will roll on the period of time with stepped up here where people can have interventions at the level that they require and at the tightening that they require in order just to and based. meet their mental health needs so it's going to be very much a staged and long tear impact it's very much on martin and thames or mental health rather than a spent and i think the government starting to teach that board in the specialist groups and professions are being put in place at the current time and it was issues are being attacked no in detail to make sure that base practice is to fail it's across the u.k. they've been there for us and if you only have to tip it for them it's only right otherwise it's of your detriment to society if we were to let people die who have put themselves on the line for us at this important point in time with a common as a clinical psychologist on the member of parliament thinking about your personal experiences as us crisis has unfolded as i have a thing what it says may just say very something has to be done protect women terms of the psychological aspects of this pandemic and equally as a some story from your own constituency perhaps which has been an example so inspiring you've said there's this is exactly the sort of thing that community should be doing for the spawn to this crisis well as a member of parliament i really want to be using all of the knowledge understanding and experience expertise that i've given to make you your own psychology to try to meet sure that it's practice right across the united kingdom and that staff on services are protected and also the general public has the supports in place that they need and i think as parliamentarians it's been a spiritual to see doctors and nurses theory m.p.'s and going back to the front line to do their bit and am very much planning to do the same as the mental health resources and support to not only succumb i'm from so while i'm sure thank you very much indeed. everyone of us is living through extraordinary times more than one 3rd of the entire population of this planet have already been in some form of lockdown as governments across the world have struggled to cope with a covert pandemic despite these draconian measures over free 1000000 people of already contract of the virus on their own a quarter of a 1000000 are already dead over these figures are likely to be substantial and the estimates and we're only at the beginning of this viruses deadly toll it should be said the us some glimmers of hope there are countries large and small east and west developed an underdeveloped those who are of fall of the world health organization advice on contact tracing who have thus far managed to hold this virus that big. others have been much less successful as the world health organization have informed us the epicenter of corona virus is commonly not in the east where it started but in europe and north america this could change over time it may yet be that africa so for america will be ravaged by corona virus and feel the full impact of its deadly toll however no country however successful in tackling the pandemic itself can be insulated from the economic horror wasn't which will surely follow and the psychological problems which we have discussed today which have been described as a tsunami which will surely come in the aftermath of the pandemic these psychological effects are both short term and long term they are likely to be massive i will never underestimate the most precious commodity of all the power of the human spirit in the end hope that keeps us all alive. and i phone to self and all the crew as good bye for now stay safe and we'll see you next week. as the u.s. economy was booming gaining numbers of people made homeless. you can work 40 hours 'd in a week and still not have enough to get housing everybody believes america still has the lead up to the reality of we're not financially equality and the lack of affordable housing for a living minimum wage gave many people new choice you know that's been a problem with the city and always turn limits and told me stay away i almost. consider that there is no answer because yes that requires resources the most vulnerable are abandoned on the streets to become the invisible cops. welcoming our viewers from around the world live from central london this is all to u.k. . prime minister boris johnson is to return true from his 1st coronavirus government briefing but any hope of an end to the lockdown is downplayed as the government is expected to miss its daily testing target 100005 the close of play today. public health experts urge the government to give local authorities more control of a contact tracing saying that a centralized approach simply won't work but if someone shortening. the city warns that he may tell them that as to where mosques and public if the government doesn't change its advice as well to scoping the prized place conference where social distancing isn't possible. for the protestant campaigners when a major supremum court victory in the run from local government pension schemes to set all facets and companies they accuse of involvement in israeli human rights violations we hear from a campaign a little later. and also the captain of world war 2 veteran he's raised over 30000000 pounds for the n.h.s. turns 100 years old. prime minister boris johnson is expected to outline britain's next steps in the war against coronavirus with his 1st daily press briefing since his own personal battle with the disease but all the signs point to an extension of at least a month with the government also predicted to miss its own target of achieving 100000 daily virus tests by today you can shout it was dashed he joins me live now in the studio for more so shot at the prime minister expose is expected to lead today's briefing right about 5 o'clock soft. absolutely bill boris johnson the prime minister appears to be back in action later on today we are expecting him to lead the daily press briefing now he has previously talked about the need for transparency and a difficult road that lies ahead but that doesn't mean he'll be giving away too much when it comes to easing these lockdown measures obviously the public and politicians alike have been demanding from the government to some sort of exit strategy or at least an indication of a roadmap of what post lockdown britain really looks like but today's press briefing will probably be more about informing the public about how such decisions will be made looking at things like that are number that's the rate of infection the spread and transmission of the disease but we have seen some hints in public some ministers saying it's too soon to speculate anything other ministers saying we could see a phased approach some even suggesting that a lockdown measure could be extended for up to a month so it's anyone's guess really what boris johnson may come up with later on today in his 1st press briefing in the last 5 weeks but one thing we do now know is today the latest death figures across the united kingdom that stands now jumping up by $473.00 deaths in the last 24 hour period taking the total to 20 $6570.00 that total figure by the way now includes both hospital and care home deaths. and also. we're going to be finding out about you know completely forgotten what it is that they're well this thing about the deters doing target no it doesn't look as if the government going to reach that 100000 target is it no that's right today is deadline day for testing over member way back just about a month ago matt hancock the house secretary he put forward this target 100000 tested by the end of april it doesn't quite look like the government is going to reach it by the way that. the self imposed target by the government and the defacto prime minister dominic robb what he suggested just yesterday is that the government has only managed to get 52000 tests in place just yesterday in the recent figures which means we're about $48000.00 shy of the target though the justice secretary today wrote at buckland he did say that the government all on their way to ramping up these tests and also made a point to say that if the talk it wasn't as ambitious when the public with their full be quite critical but did admit like knowledge of the target will probably be missed you have the result so i think tomorrow i mean even if we don't. it's probable that we won't we will in the next few days target we're up to 52 so some people being tested. well just to mention our own testing due to the lack of receiving the data the government will only know whether they have reached it all missed it by the end of next week moving on then every cent probably feel that the british public believe the government has done too little too late according to a survey conducted by mori just under 70 percent believe the government's response was too late just over a quarter think it acted at the appropriate time only 2 percent of respondents felt the government acted too soon with 6 percent saying they don't know the percentage of people that think the united kingdom reacted to date has increased by 9 percent in just 2 weeks but confidence in the n.h.s. to deal with the crisis has actually gone up it now stands at just over 80 percent whereas in mid march it was low at around 60 percent but in terms of the devils of fare public concern for the country has decreased over the last month by around 10 percent and levels of personal glory has also dropped but this could be a reflection of the perceived leadership at the heads of government boris johnson of course being out of action not in the political stratosphere for quite some time and so we haven't really seen any big announcements all it could just be a by product that we have been in this lockdown period for a very long time indeed but all in the length of lockdown we will have more from boris johnson who takes his place back in the driving seat. thank you very much you don't need me who'll do you really thank you very much and before that shaddy of that now number 2 is being called on to relinquish central control over the tracking and tracing of newly infected patients after lockdown measures are lifted experts say the most effective way to prevent further spikes is to equip local authorities with enough resources to carry out the work in their communities well last week the home secretary promised 800000 people will be recruited to help with contact tracing whether the letter sent. 2 local authorities only $3000.00 will have relevant public health experience the rest will be just handling calls instead the government is banking on a centralized n.h.s. to bear much of the brunt and one of the public if they have come into contact with a positive case. the government hopes its own tracing up will be downloaded and used by as much as 80 percent of the british population however in singapore society with holidays smartphone use take up of a similar app was only done by 20 percent of the population and experts argue the technology should be just used for support and is no match for a boots on the ground community approach and that includes giving local councils control and resources and using tactics such as door to door visits and telephone calls to reach the most vulnerable the governor said the n.h.s. app is the best solution tracing and testing those with symptoms of covert 19 is essential if we are to limit the spread of this virus and save lives the n.h.s. is developing a contact tracing out which alongside effective tracing and testing is designed to give our country the confidence it needs to return to normality we are working with clinicians scientists and other specialists to plan a safe staged path to national rollout. well i'm now joined by one of those public health experts professor allison pollock allison thank you for being with us why is it so important to roll out testing in tracing on a local level why can't it be actually controlled centrally. well the way you have to think of that national and send any distance measure of hundreds and thousands of looks is that little tires you confident that unless you're there locally to do that. and each of these that breaks is a different stage in phase in each part of the country so some parts of the country now have almost no outbreaks and no cases where the others will have a great many so you need a little information and real time they should is currently in sure that happed. show in their little or anything else that is $360.00 and they need to be on top of it so every time there's a case they need to isolate the case and they need to make sure they've identified all the contacts and then they need to contact the contacts and ask them to go divide the room high risk or low risk and then you ask the contacts to go into quarantine and you. and that's when of course you communities crackles and calls and of course get them on a chain hits but the government only in that way you're going to be able to put out the local outbreaks and the other thing is that the u.k. is a very diverse population it's not a marginal and you have prevented the 8 different kinds of the. different hassles structures and extra so that's another reason why you need local information you need to know how realistic and practical it is some of your groups to isolate and to go into court and seen progress some of the reach me moves into more as it were a combination and where the some of the need extra support you can't do that so essential centralized but until the ceremony that's what you're getting at look at the getting local information on the course are you getting really contacting people locally valar the community but doesn't your approach actually advocate a lot more human contact the than the left which is exactly what we don't need right now. you need the you need the human contact present because apps have been never really evaluated in that low uptake as you rightly pointed out. and. look to let you use to use it in there. are gaps. in the editing if you can i think we don't know whether it's real when it's there you might be very scared you might be panicking so actually the contact the human voice is really important to explain to you what's going on what needs to be and they will be keeping in regular touch with you see you would have the monitoring 7 day or 2 days you have. and how it's going and whether you need x. or do you need to be in aren't so you can price it's really important and that actually will take thousands of people across the country but you can change volunteers that very quickly they've done that in our lives with public servants and parents. in hand you their best. medical not traditional trance people who could run into anyone it is later intensive but that's something we've got to sell lots of human resources ok we we had a slightly dodgy connection there but we heard pretty much most of what you had to say so thank you very much for your time professor allison pollock thank you and apologies for the poor quality of sound there now let's have a quick look at the latest figures and according to individual reports from england scotland wales the u.k. why death toll has now surpassed 26500 and it has england today have announced a further 391 hospital that small scott reported 60 more fatalities since yesterday and wales 22 now 2 major business groups have written to the dublin and belfast governments to demand cross border coordination for economic recovery it comes as the scottish 1st minister pledges 100000000 pounds for small and medium sized businesses with applications now open meanwhile the chief medical officer for wales says there are no plans for the country to encourage the use of face masks in public. well let's have a look at what's going on around the world and more than $3200000.00 people are known infected this is according to johns hopkins university which collates worldwide data the global pandemic has resulted in over 228000 deaths and almost 1000000 people have now recovered. the governor of new york is hit hard over a lack of federal funding to fight the virus for democratic states as new york city remains the hardest hit meanwhile america's vice president mike pence has come under fire for ignoring a strict mosque policy at the mayo clinic it's the scientific research hobby in the u.s. and pencils that he and his staff are tested on a regular basis. protesting campaign is one of the major victory over the government ought to be supreme court ruled against regulations which could of boycotts divest and sanctions against israel we hear from a campaign that's very short and. you've heard me often speak of the black hole of debt that is where all the debt in the universe ends up after it leaves a central bank balance sheet and it's a cosmic force pulling the g.d.p. of the world down now or at the white hole of debt as i am a fellow straining with this white piece of cardboard the white hole of dead is on the other side of the black hole of debt and in an era of negative interest rates and negative oil prices we have to colorize our concept to death toll from black to white makes sense and of course not. is your media a reflection of reality. in the world transformed. what will make you feel safe from. the isolation whole community. are you going the right way or are you being led so. direct. what is true. is. in the world corrupted you need to descend. to join us in the death. or inmate in the shallows. of the mass of the car has cautioned that he may tell residents of the british capital to wear masks in public if the government doesn't change its advice but it is the case that despite not being and the evidence and the emergency and if you can't the government doesn't change it's got its i'm a will decide good luck really to instruct on this you have going forward guns comments come as number 10 insisted the science behind the use of face coverings was weak some scientists say they can be effective at providing a barrier to stop the wearer infecting others but other experts say the impact is negligible cabinet officer i should say cabinet office minister michael gove's revealed later that the government is stockpiling them for commuters and shoppers to wear in public should advise change in contrast scottish 1st minister nicola sturgeon advised that they could be used in some enclosed spaces. it is also made clear that the evidence on the use of face coverings is still limited however it recognises that they are may be some benefit in waiting a face covering if you leave the house and into an enclosed space and face mass we do we are guided by the science but in the government position hasn't changed huge . what are the scots as further i'll be joined in the next hour by a leading doctor. pro palestinian campaigners of won a major victory over the british government after the supreme court ruled against its regulations which prevent local government pension schemes selling off assets contrary to u.k. foreign and defense policy the boycott divestment and sanctions movement clothing rules prevented the possibility of diverse media companies it says a involved an israeli human rights violations and went against freedom of expression and the rights of those pension holders well boats back to 2016 when the apartment for communities and local government 1st devise its pension schemes against divestment in foreign states and the u.k. defense industry well we contact the government for a statement on let me know when they get back to us well for more on all of this some are joined by dr larry leavitt of the campaign against criminalizing communities and jews for boycotting israeli goods let's thank you for being with us so what does this ruling actually mean for the movement yes it's an important victory it means their pension fund contributors and their organizations you know can be accountable to bam for how their contributions are invested or divested and that's in turn important because it's a crucial means of holding companies accountable for whether they respect or violate human rights and likewise where the more broadly it was spent to revive basic at the core principles. it's also an important blow against the racist near liberal regime that has ruled this country for so long when i saw the good news i was curious to remind myself of the government's arguments for why pension fund contributors supposedly have no right to influence those investments in i look back to the speech in 2016 by the minister for communities and local government who then was met hancock. on a visit to israel symbolically important he explained the government plans to regulate local government pension schemes he said quote there predominant concern should be the pursuit of a financial return on their investments they should not pursue policies that run contrary to u.k. foreign policy because what he called local foreign policies would undermine our national security so this was imposing a near liberal and racist model upon the pension fund contributors who supposedly should be concerned about nothing other than maximizing their return and their interests map an accepting a version of national security which means complicity in and financially contributing to israel's racist colonization of palestine or a little thing is you can understand the government's stance on this it simply doesn't want local decisions political decisions to undermine the very important diplomatic relations that we do have with israel. well if only local government decisions and pension turn decisions could undermine the government's immoral foreign policy and complicity with violations of human law there you can human rights law if only that were possible it would be a good thing but unfortunately the issue here is much more modest it's about whether we can cause political embarrassment for political little embarrassment is. the best we can and do but can i just ask you some some perceived media to be really quite contentious movement some accuse it of anti semitism what do you make of that but this was also will hear arguments by a man matt hancock in his 2016 speech. and in more aggressive speeches by politicians in stanley back then he said town hall boycotts undermine good community relations poisoning in polarizing debate weakening integration and fueling anti-semitism he said well this again is a longstanding british government strategy to construct a racist stereotype of the jewish community always unitarian homogeneous supposedly identifying with the israeli state as part of their religion right which we call it is a gross racist stereotype of jews and the government needs the stereotype it actively promotes this racist stereotype so we can hide its own racist policies behind that stereo let's we'll have to leave it there we're running out of time thank you very much indeed for getting your reaction on this development today we really appreciate your time. thank you. over $100.00 n.g.o.s recording for emergency support for sex workers during the covert 19 pandemic the international committee on the right soft sex workers in europe is demonic governments include them in their coronavirus a plans it comes as many sex workers face exclusion from government aid join the pandemic due to the criminalization of many aspects of their work as a result sex workers a falling through the net of supporters. and covers with millions of the lockdown across the u.k. for many workers it's business as usual and that includes sex workers. you've got to get close and it's not always safe but you have to be playing it when you meet a client you know you want to be the plaintiff boss we want them to be as keen as possible. it was always the way where you expect them to shower before anything was progressing and then afterwards you will always show yourself but obviously nobody really wants to. have sex with a mask on a rubber gloves unless you're into doctors and nurses while many who work as escorts have shut up shop or try to move to the saturated online adult industry others are now forced to work under ground breaking lockdown rules as well as putting themselves and others in danger. for sex workers where it's very much a desperate situation because because the illegality of our work because sex work is criminalized then we are being to know i kind of protection and in total mess that other workers are getting so we haven't been able to apply for weight related or for sick pay or any of those other in type laments that and you know under the current government handouts so it is really a massive problem the english collective of prostitutes want sex workers to be recognized as employees so they can receive some of the support of the work is to suffer. while soliciting in a public place is illegal like catcalling in pimping prostitution itself isn't but to the streets deserted the trade is much more visible and police forces are cracking down on the punters issuing fixed penalty notice and even making arrests and with most sex worker mothers struggling to support families and logistically unable to work from home many now face being left destitute even homeless you could be having it you could be spreading it you could catch it and it's but they have no choice this is their. only in livelihood the only form of income it's not like they can just go and get a job doing something else because everything else of close down this is all they have and they are putting their lives at risk every day and the lives of other people and for those forced to choose between surviving and exposure to the virus mental health is also of great concern sex workers at the moment and very badly affected by the crane a virus pandemic that they are able to to work these are people who do work day to day and they're not able to do that because people are staying out there also struck lay in the sense as well that some of them do suffer from drug addictions and i'm not able to access the drugs and rehabilitation that they need as a result of the pandemic and i says and rises of cases of depression which can result in rises of suicide historically depicted as a disease spread as sex work is once again find themselves at the sharp end of society out of sight out of mind and for now the seemingly little appetite from government to take the action needed to help some of the most vulnerable people hardest hit by locked down martyrdom groups are to u.k. london. and finally captain tumble of the world war 2 veteran who's raised tens of millions for the n.h.s. by walking in his garden has turned 100 years old to mark the occasion the royal air force staged a battle of britain memorial flight every time captain moore's efforts have been lauded by the public and he's received special birthday messages from both the queen and the prime minister. you started. with my own little i pod judging mug you have treatment come on national health service. and consciousness care and he should go. to the doctors and nurses and all of the people and the service has been absolutely magnificent none of the reasons why i called it a great tension thing to raise all this money. example in a 100 years do you want to spend great anything you want use you know i think the jobs that were involved the public come forward. or lose calls to do so move money. you think we need to put it back. well what do you. think. we'll need to get to get a little children with all of this to get the know we'll need a moon she'll lose. ended we'll. all know the it was you know we lost track of the moment. and. i'm never ever told i would do anything like this mikko a post office oddity gone a little bit in. it rather than to say that almost mole those don't hold your breath so when the fall of the. union. and that's it for the moment more news in often enough. yes i did somebody. let me see yes. i was on the floor some things in my bathroom being prayed.

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