Worst they have achieved the highest echelons of success in a grieved based system because they have never cared about their fellow human that thats why theyre there thats how they got there its right on the resume sociopath right there and theyre proud of it thats how they got there keep in mind just how many people theyre talking about murdering with this virus right now experts believe between 10240000 americans will die from coronavirus this year and thats if we continue with this social distancing if we continue with all the businesses closed and Everything Else if we go down the continued path. Thats the number thats the number that number is more than the number of americans who died in vietnam and korea. Combined ok its nearly half of the number of americans that died in all of world war 2 so of thats the death rate on the course were currently on imagine how many people wall street is talking about killing to protect their profits to protect their money possibly millions of people millions of deaths. But they dont care they dont care they dont give for the lives of others we have a system that puts the sociopaths at the top. Thats how it works thats how its always worked it is run by those people and right now they are worried they are worried for their billions of dollars. And speaking of that lets move on to the morally bankrupt war america is continuing to wage against venezuela on march 26th the u. S. Department of justice unveiled indictments against president Nicolas Maduro and 13 other current or former members of venezuelas government and military attorney general barr offered a 15000000. 00 reward for information leading to the wreck a rest or conviction of doro. I mean this seems unbelievable but in these times you will with the corruption we have in our government maybe i shouldnt be surprised but yes our government has put a very key 1000000 dollar bounty on the head of a democratically elected leader in a election system that is far more legitimate than ours a democratically elected leader of a sovereign nation a president who is recognized by the United Nations in the United Nations and by 3 quarters of all the countries on the planet and yet they put a bounty and they are the criminal could buy all that runs the u. S. Government has concocted. Insane whole areas drug running story about an adorable even though the u. S. Government they are the ones who have run drugs with colombia for decades for decades in fact i want to show you its on the owners or this chart this map shows oceanic even the gold drug transits from south america in the year 2017 which was most most recent statistics every purple line is a transit on that map as you notice. As well of not really the problem. The problem comes from Colombia Colombia which is our ally venezuela amounts to only 7 percent of illegal drug transit down in south america most of it is colombia going to mexico or back from mexico but the clowns in our government have indicted mood duro anyway. I mean they discontinued us backed coup attempt is horrific and ridiculous and our Mainstream Media wont even mention it really is at least not in a legitimate way its pathetic its pathetic although it has there been there may be some backfiring that is going on in this latest indictment is the us also indicted when they indicted or on march 26th they also indicted cleaver they are our color retired venezuelan general hours after the announcement our caller posted videos online that threaten to cause further splits in the venezuelan opposition and expose a violent plot that could result in the arrest of one wydow now as you know. U. S. Government poppets he kept trying to declare himself president then as well even though he never elected to that from patton at the state of the union it was like marbury is about going to it it was like a im the idiot puppet coup master that the us has put in venezuela anyway he may now be arrested for that coup attempt that our caller has revealed because our caller was so together whether a part of it or connected to it or something and the u. S. May have to back by indicting that general either way this is disgusting step the u. S. Government is taken and sure its trumps mn dot maniacal new regime that has done it but you dont 7 hear any crying from the democrats in congress do you they are either equally corrupt or weaker than nancy pelosi arm wrestling brock lesnar the democrats or a put that in. Prowar pro pro economic destruction pro austerity probe death party who would seem to agree with all of the mass murder that the g. O. P. Can possibly dream up with come up with in their in their book but a bizarre empty heads a pox on both their houses moving on lets talk to someone whos not in those 2 big corporate parties. Is running for president of the United States dont know if youve heard of it Little CountryUnited States on the Green Party Ticket hes been a long time activist organizer construction worker and package handler hes a working class man and now a politician heres my interview with Howie Hawkins fellow howie thanks for joining me thanks for having me so theres a lot i want to get to in a little amount of time so lets say when squeeze it all in coronavirus economic crisis etc but i want to start with the state of the president ial election your running on the Green Party Ticket what are your thoughts on Bernie Sanders and where he stands now many people want to know why hes not calling out the various electoral manipulations the suppression the provisional ballots its just tons of manipulation done by the Democratic Party and of course the green party deals with a lot of the same crap you know being kept off Mainstream Media etc so what are your thoughts on all the. Will bernie should. Have known him since 1970 s. When he was an independent. If you want to advance the democratic socialism the Democratic Party is hostile territory to live should and speaks for itself through its own party so with bernie one of the end of this group i think it gives an opportunity to the green party so people that supported soon do so because of medicare for all were in full strength Green New Deal they have an option in the phone and that will be the Green Party Ticket. So you feel he never really had a shot me should have known that to begin with. Yeah he knows i mean his hero used to be eugene debs didnt talk about death so much now its f. D. R. And the new debs was for independent Political Action by the working class so you know hes really not been a socialist so much as a liberal you know new deal liberalism tax the billionaires to fund some social problems programs the problem with that is being there still have the economic power which translates in the concert of political power so youre always fighting to get those social programs in the billionaire class can roll them back and thats why we need democratic socialism as a socialist economic democracy based on social ownership of major means of production like right now wed be in a lot better position if big pharma was a public utility rather than for Profit Companies that dont do vaccines said dont do any viral said dont do any of biopics in terms of research and development. So it were in a bad place because of it yeah absolutely agree and you know you say you said corporations jacking up the price of ventilators because they know they can they know they have that power over the people right now one more question on the race and you know whether its joe biden or Bernie Sanders the green party will deal with the same accusations they have in the past that theyre taking votes away from the democrat and its imperative to get trump out of office how do you respond to those trolls that you know youre going to have to face. We dont spoil elections we improve them we put issues on a table that the major parties will not like medicare for all which you know biden says is irrelevant to the Coronavirus Crisis that could have just as well come from trump like a real Green New Deal and we have a. Reform that weve been advocating since bush won in 2000 and that is get rid of the Electoral College you have the president ial vote by a rank Choice National popular vote that would interest more of the problem but if the greens arent in the election that wont even be raised yeah its important to raise these issues that want to talk about by the liberal class i want to move on to coronavirus its a unique threat a unique crisis were dealing with right now how would you address it differently than a millionaire and billionaire oligarchy that we have in power right now intrusive while people are losing their Health Insurance and while theyd be testing free the treatment is an average of 35000. 00 people cant afford it and if they dont have insurance it will be stuck with the whole bill so the 1st thing is the medicare system should just pay for all coronavirus treatment as well as testing in in the production act is something that should be invoked to really push forward the production of personal protective equipment to p. P. Ease. Masks. Then leaders. To increase hospital beenz the things that were short of now because weve had a for Profit Health care system that doesnt build excess capacity in case of a pandemic like were suffering now which theyve been warned about for 20 years so i think thats the 2nd thing is we need to invoke that and get the manufacturing done then we need. A new we got to watch this corporate slush fund they just set up which is in the hands of the secretary treasury newton and and donald trump because theyre going to give it to their friends and the people didnt get enough out of that relief package so we got to keep pushing for more relief because thats basically a months worth of spending in the economy and were probably going to be in this for several months so i think those are the immediate things we need to do yeah i wanted to ask you about the economic crisis as well i already theres 3300000 people have filed for unemployment and that is a tiny fraction of what that number will be the fed says we could end up with 40000000 people on employed what would be your reaction to this crisis as president and also what were the underlying causes in your opinion before the coronavirus even hit. Put a coronavirus triggered it but we had excess capacity a debt overhang we were headed for a recession and because we have this excess capacity to capitalists dont invest in new production that would create jobs they do financial manipulations they buy back their stocks they buy each other they merge and have acquisitions and that concentrates wealth but it doesnt help the people what we need to do now is like we did during the world war 2 emergency the federal government took over or built a quarter of the manufacturing capacity this country in order to build what they called the arsenal of democracy which arm the u. S. The u. K. The russians to defeat the nazis and to defeat both Climate Change and a chronic virus and get out. This coronavirus depression were going to have to do something very similar in what i call the eagle socialist Green New Deal would be about we got to rebuild our whole Energy System manufacturing culture transportation and buildings and we need to have off the climate mobilization like we had in office a war mobilization during world war 2 you know i think thats the kind of Public Sector initiatives its going to take to have an economic recovery otherwise you know we have a lot of businesses collapse and its going to be a very slow recovery when we get through the the epidemic go short break but if youre stuck at home looking for something to do check out my new book at least can book dot com you can also get the digital version if you want to get it right away and check out the free america app its at portable a dot tv slash download its called portable t. V. Ill be right back with the rest of my interview with how hawkins. 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To this news to learn in 1000 from the. Who would you hire to use in to. Learn them. To me when i meet you house on their classroom. Welcome back im still in camp and here is the rest of my interview with president ial candidate Howie Hawkins why do you feel a green party has had so much trouble getting a toehold over the decades not not just on the president ial level but theres not even a green in congress why is that. When we have got 150. 00 greens elected around the country and its more nearly 3rd party since the socialists before the 1930 s. So i think the achievement weve done is weve stuck around there been a lot of efforts of 3rd parties that have come and gone over the last 35 years and were still here i think weve got to build this from below theres half a 1000000 elected offices in this country and most of them are local and weve got to start elect and thousands as we go into the 20 twentieths and from there build the state legislatures in congress i want to move on to another important thing that i thought i was told it was one of the reasons you wanted to come on the show is to clear up some statements you made about russia gave in the neo mccarthyism that is pummeled our country the past i dont know 2 or 3 years we now know thanks to the malo report that the claims of collusion were garbage which i have many others were saying from the beginning i have a 1000000 criticisms of trump but thats not one of them and on top of that just a couple of weeks ago muller and the Justice Department moved to drop some of the only indictments that they could come up with the indictments on the russian click bait farm that they claimed were posting dastardly facebook means so what every level this thing seems to have fallen apart what are your thoughts on it now considering where we stand. Now the rush is a mass distraction i mean to do mccance brought that up right after the week before the Democratic Convention in st robbie moved out onto the sunday shows to say russia russia russia and im thinking. Trump is a target rich environment hes a racist hes a liar hes a serial Sexual Assault a reason sale businessman and you want to talk about russia you know their criticism made of russia but weve got to deal with them and their economy is one 6th of ours their military budgets 110th of ours are not a conventional threat but they are Nuclear Superpower so we should be engaging them diplomatically not planned his cold war game which is a threat to all of us. Yeah i agree with all that so so just to circle back real quick you your do believe this new mccarthyism this red baiting i mean its dangerous for the left its dangerous for journalists its been used against Bernie Sanders jill stein just about anybody who says anything outside of the mainstream corporate talking points so you agree with that era. Yet you dont suppress dissent you encourage it because sometimes the dissenters are right and we should not give the state or big tech the power to do that i like would it would snowden said his biography is a real page turner and he said like they do in europe our property our data should be our property not the property of the Big Tech Companies or the government to collect in so weve got to protect our freedoms and censoring the internet and peoples access to it you know Net Neutrality is a big issue all these things have to be addressed you know right now to their trend to marginalize people that disagree with what the establishment wants and thats what yeah yeah youre going to be predicting all of my questions i was next going to ask about some of the whistleblower Snowden Chelsea manning Julian Assange many of the fans of the shell have been disgusted by the democratic president ial candidates not standing up for joining us on to Chelsea Manning i think tall see gabbert is probably the only one that full throated lee did where do you stand on the way theyve been treated. I think all the whistleblowers that have been prosecuted in persecuted by the obama and trump administrations should be part and i think there are a lot of Political Prisoners lynagh to. Mom these elderly black panthers theres a lot of people that if i was president i would give pardons to assign meaning for sure and all those whistleblowers in the end particularly it would snow now i would just pardon him if i was president i b