When so many find themselves worlds apart when you choose to look for common ground. Your government and our government and all the other major governments of the world know whats going to them and when its gone. But they havent told you and they havent told me they havent announced. Imagine something as big as the earth. Is going to cause tidal waves earthquakes volcanoes erupt and its going to chill. So very for a while right. My great grandfathers quote. Nobody would care about the law or prison so youd have wallace the should have. A turtle life between now and the. Hello and welcome to cross talk where all Things Considered im Peter Lavelle as the democrats gear up to officially start their 2020 president ial primary it is fitting to assess Donald Trumps performance in office a report card of sorts where is he kept his promises and where has he come up short will any of this really matter in november. Cross talking the trump report card im joined by my guest soraya foss in austin she is a u. S. Libertarian president ial candidate in new york who crossed the line and he is a legal and media analyst also in new york we have in williams he is a journalist and author as well as a Senior Analyst at Foreign Policy in focus all right cross talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate lionel let me go to you 1st here in a nutshell give donald trump his report card because the primary season is upon us here i must say his opponents are not something that i would be too worried about but an incumbent president always does run in this case his record so judge that record given a grade. A plus plus plus and also if i could curve if i could weigh in the fact that he has been absolutely or they have attempted to stop him to do you rail him do indict him do impeach him to to do interrupt everything he has done from the moment he announced in view of all of that and the aforementioned he is in my lifetime the greatest president i have seen he will win in their ways down the victory landslide of the popular vote and the electoral vote ok i see quite a bit of disbelief with our co panel a series of let me go to i know you and i can see your face are going to be good its the right of birth and. Reflect upon my introduction my question to lionel and lionels answer go ahead and in austin let me tell you id have to say im very disappointed in donald trump even though i endorsed him in 2016 everything that he said that he was going to do he has not applied to and fact especially when it comes to Foreign Policy so i would have to give him a d. Minus ok and youre up to bat go ahead a new york. Well i really have to say look our presentation is a double plus hes a consummate politician. If he has a demagogue of the 1st order hes up there with muscly know how to pull a crowd but in terms of delivery its. Negative negative negative but its interesting i think the American People have seen thats because the key point is its quite clear that an ethics is f. F. F. Ive been covering him since i came to america in one 989. 00 and i couldnt understand the adulation with which he was greeted he became the archetype will businessman with his t. V. Program as he led company after company into town the bankruptcy he was standing up there talking about the art of the deal when he remake it on every single business deal he ever made and left all over the place the man has no ethics at all which is the secret of his success as a politician and i think its the American People have recognized that because at this stage of the career look the economy is better than its been for years unemployment is the lowest nobody gives him any credit for that they look at as a 3rd rate they look at his twisted ethics they see what he does i cant believe that but that dont bet in that so very similar economic background thats why he should be way up there and he isnt and thats ok ill let you bring up half and realize you bring up a very good point ill throw it back to lionel i mean in you you actually preempted my 2nd question here but but what people what weve heard from from particularly from ian is the medias per a perception of donald trump and i think it works to his advantage the more he has demonized the more that he is underestimated the more he seems to cling on and fire back and and for me because i work in media i see everything through the prism of media and it seems to me because media the liberal media continue to shoot themselves in the foot they dont learn anything about dealing with this man in the white house go ahead lionel. Every single day we hear the same present company not included in what im about to say the same Bumper Sticker echo Chamber Cookie cutter playbook this drew vol this excruciating indictment hes unethical you bring up the grabbing pudenda it so all the American Public have completely habituated to this and what he has done like nobody else is to reach into the heart of the world not america and strike a chord he is by far without a doubt a superstar the most the singular most dynamic ok gear on the public platform bar none and it kills people that thats ok well i think i have to really push back for a change aligning with you i mean the world the world certainly doesnt see donald trump that way at all to school k. Certainly doesnt get off at all donald trump not to sneak in and out of london they see us as a joke on the lake area because they could the stunned the popular public protests even Boris Johnsons embarrassed him yes to support him for geopolitical reasons but Boris Johnson actually pleaded with him to stay away during the election because it doesnt buy donald trump could have led to electoral disaster in britain ok and its most of the case stay with us its not like you know you said want to worry about this you had one thing riot jumping in are wondering all right go ahead its alright yeah you know let me tell you i think the one thing that you said that is right is that hes a show man and hes all appearance and thats what won everybody in 2016 he promised to put america 1st and he hasnt done any of that the only thing hes done is hes sold himself to the saudi government were fighting wars that arent even ours. This is ridiculous and you seem to think that hes appealing to the American People how by using our tax paying dollars to fund wars that arent even ours or i mean i dont understand you seem to think that he is like the best of the best in what sense the only thing he had going for him that was right was the fact that there was fake news and still him until he started believing it himself and he started creating it himself as well because the more you repeat something the more it becomes the truth even if its a lie and the problem is that nobody takes the time to do the research and to find out the facts ive always said the media is the 4th branch of government 8 because it moves Public Opinion and this is exactly whats going on right now in the United States unfortunately greenline dont jump in. Thats exactly what he did if you keep saying that over and over again it will be true let me Say Something and i and i hate it please i i dont in any way want to insult anybody. The American Voter and im not advocating this could not possibly care less about what Boris Johnson thinks or the rule now on this maybe i am in line or but i know youre coming election that is a commie heino your contradiction or not youre listening to the illusion that every time trump 3 if the market goes up and down i mean this is ridiculous youre trying to say again youre living an allusion is what youre a little because this is not how the world were going to be the president of the united 8th america youre going to feel it to be representing for the other people were supposed to be an example to others were not supposed to be a laughingstock of the whole entire world are you doing is appearing to the terrorist youre missing your parents why do you think 13 he was the poster comrade american what is he doing he gave them are finding more power and right now after they combat terrorism for 9 years he killed the general the guy who made it happen who is a hero and who is the delinquent here ok. I want to call time is equal time oh and go lionel mad as a lawyer the erroneous point that hes revered across the world it doesnt make it a left wing start an american is no good luck serious americans know this they expect they dont care about Foreign Policy that much but the irony is that they expect the president to represent them on the world stage and they can see as far as they can see hes been misrepresented so for example the saudis can put their opponents through meat grinders literally under no donald trump will come apart the moment now that doesnt play well with the American Public with whom the saudis are not the most popular people and not just the us we are big in fact invited to join in yet another war. Oh be a part of it to say oh its these against iran and now you might have a very similar reservations about the dollars on the Iranian Regime but they are nothing harrison with the daily in part by arrestees that saudi arabia has been perpetrating with the execution i come back to it the meat grinder or opponents within days of that happening with his own Government Agencies say this had happened there was done the void of ethics closing up and i have to say the media gave him an easy ride right someone else cant ok and i now and now i have to push back against you because the Foreign Policy that you and soraya are criticizing which i do too but the media will not push back either which is a shame ok and that is probably the biggest difference i have with lionel which will flesh out a little bit here but actually they are pushing back and look i was the only have i not only because its against trump not because its ethically right its only because its against trump which i think is ethically wrong ok it doesnt get to the heart of the problem here in america people do not want to be dragged into another he and i know president that this is what were doing wrong ok all right lionel you get the last word before we go to the break go ahead. What you just said was wonderful im talking about the political reality this is wonderful for a college dissertation or maybe perhaps something on a more of an International Level and im not saying youre wrong what im saying is that because while nothing that i would bore him publicly im not going to go where youre saying is theyre relevant because when you had barack obama when you had barack obama who was celebrated and loved all over the world oh he was they loved him he was a disaster for this country and we havent forgotten that so while im saying you may be correct intellectually factually politically i would hire neither of you to present his campaign or any campaign for a president of the United States today this is great on an International Forum and i want to come but he was really that i really honestly dont want to hurt and relative to american politics its in app is it all right im going to jump in here were going to go to a short break and after that short break well continue our discussion on trumps report card stay with something. 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A counter beaning the law obstructing justice its the Democratic Party and the majority in congress thats my opinion and just wanted to get out there but you know so i this is only helping donald trump i mean this is a farce go ahead. Yes that is thats helping him because thats he keeps on playing the whole card that the people are against men the democrats are doing it on purpose because they cant get over the loss that they did in 2016 which is true which is true democrats need to move on hes currently the president we have to deal with it you know what i mean but what we can learn from it is that in 2020 you have options if youre not happy and you see the donald trump is following the same exact rhetoric but thats all weve had for the past 30 years is the same mandate different faces we need something new and fresh and this is why people need to realize the Libertarian Party is here where the 3rd Largest Party in the United States and we want to have the opportunity to prove to you and we are about the people not like everybody else who tells you that they are just to get elected and as weve seen even with donald trump you know he was able to prove that you know at the end it day its the corporations its the lobbyist is the people that they all favors to and its never about the people and this is the reason why im running for president ok well that. You can use this is a sound bite ok in an ad police do and you were disagreeing with my my characterization of impeachment go ahead. Look i think impeachment might be a political mistake because its obviously a means to rectify what a political loss by the democrats you think that was but thats what it invoked when they were hounding clinton for being a democrat and having been elected and i got no time for clinton either but the impeachment there was a much less substantial grounds and what trump is doing here by denying the witnesses to come that he is if the democrats were somebody enough to get up and shout about it basically admitting the truth they say i cant let the truth out because the truth is the tea put pressure on a Foreign Government using the powers that congress didnt give him to withhold money the Congressional Congress and voted to achieve a result to damage a political enemy now this hits on everything make America Great again america 1st dont even know you said here and im sorry but that is just simple talking point there is no in pyrrhic all evidence at all to suggest what youre saying is true 100617 what they should take on this if you are a good and fair mention all do the best you will pay oh sorry go ahead go jump in all this information all we proved that biden was at fault back then and its really really difficult for me to understand because theres this notion that certain people are above the law we saw that happen with Hillary Clinton because if it was an average person that would have done half of the stuff that biden or clintons or obama even did and now they are getting trump on the wrong things when it comes to impeachment i can tell you there is a whole long list of things that they really want to look at it they can get him on but you know what it is it would also implicate the democrats and that really why trying to figure out exactly and that kind of sugar coat on the layers exactly exactly the the coper here with a working of cardinality hand their culpability is by. Hard to sit in thats why they dont go there here but lionel you have a lot of liability for your car childbirth attack right there home and i had to wake sure that lionel had supposed because he hasnt said anything in this part of the program go ahead lionel impeachment oh no im just im just im just waiting for my esteemed colleagues to realize. Im wasting my time go ahead im come on you mean things that might be good might be good in a sad lawn or might be might be relevant in some type of a of a of a College Discussion but in reality politique in the world of elections in this specially to my other esteemed colleague and by the way my best to you and your i think its wonderful that youre on the hustings but what you have to realize is that there is reality and there is theory and what weve talked about up till now is theory and it sounds great and youre so right but when it comes time for the election mark my words he is going to destroy them because right now in july the democrats are going to meet in milwaukee and they have absolutely no idea no vision no platform and yet instead of telling the American People what they want to do they spend their time talking about trump and we know that thats what kills people is that this man came out of well im saying we are robbed were not saying youre going to hang i mean im going to have that but i dont want to start not getting married on the great idea hasnt had a great at all i dont know but hang on you know it i know not everybody but my point is here hang on everybody and im kind of agreeing with all of you in different ways here and im going to go to ian right now but my mantra about all of this is that its the media that will reelect the donald trump with all of his flaws his for his empty promises whatever but the media is doing it again they havent learned any lessons whatsoever they wont focus on issues they focus on him and trump loves that and he thrives on it and you know what he controls the narrative because