A position to advance and to throw back the syrian army back to the original source she sees for our lives that were agreed in september 2018 and the result is that they pulled back and have allowed the syrian army to retain its military gains and theyve taken steps to way towards a reopening the highways but its but this hasnt resolved the issue here because turkey still refuses to start dealing with this jarvis element that is imbedded in its take 2 steps forward one step back its not resolving anything and a lot of people are saying this is a temporary solution to a problem that only turkey can now solve because we have to remind our viewers the Syrian Government sees these jihadist elements as terrorists and then must be dealt with and there in the status quo cannot be maintained Everyone Wants a sub main. In this status quo thats true and i think that earlier on miscalculate that. His policy and he didnt realize it that his position is not so exceptional which once was a bloke who was confronting whiston bloke at that time turkey was very important country inside the nato now everybody mention turkey its real place which means it will have to recall kill it and understand that turkey has a limited puts ability its a limited options and thats why this is not going to be the last humiliation for him because he initially wanted. To bring the americans backing him against russia he failed he wants very probably exactly he wanted to bring e. U. Blackmailed them and it didnt work and then he had to come to moscow to bow to putin and make that settlement which is of course a temporary settlement because everyone in turkey they are talk actors strategic aim of turkey of course its a might be strengthen its position in syrian territory autumn is a very narrow dominant or dont mind a leader a kind of he is a kind of salt but as i said the reality is that turkish possibilities and turkish good goals are not coincide with. One of the things i really find surprising because with the end of the cold war and we have this global reassessment going on nato still looking for a mission to exist turkey she actually should be in a very strong position as a reach. Player but it seems to have it goes from one misstep to the other its not playing to his advantages it constantly pleas to its disadvantage for me its remarkable well i think youre going to have to prove that god made huge mistakes and its enough just to quote his statements in the last 2 weeks 1st russia must get out of the way and let me deal with you know on the 2nd one i have no problem with russia so basically self so many times but this is why does he have to deal with someone why you see in syria and says anybody out that question this is Mainstream Media what are the turks doing in syria is exactly the question but the more stable think is the edge over the western media and the western elite because i slightly disagree with that expense he says that they would get more support ever got me a call to the headline of the spiegel magazine right before the meeting between begun and why the europeans must support thats their headline but they really do logical ok youre both right the article said that but i dont exactly care if i got because they didnt do what i need to exactly but the most the most thing was the article from Andrew Higgins in the new times right after the meeting it will be prepared in advance most of it because itd be a just you know minutes after the meeting and that so he gets right russia so far has refrained from a take an inside turkey because putin was hesitant about making and ill try to tack on nato territory nato territory territory kind of weaponry and it leaves is need to take a tree this is how they view it this is made look times and why dont you know google group is another thing that stunned me you know yesterday they came out with that headline the agreement in more school is bad news for the west just imagine. You know by doing so if theyre fighting there will be border because of the gates open the floodgates and the more standard will all to come with that you know that he can seize some kind of a settlement settlement between russia and turkey because he writes putin previously or what it has failed in his previously successful efforts to cultivate new star began in the hope that turkey the eastern most member of nato would prashar saw discord within the United States led military ok ok so this is little you may know but this is the because its actually on its head let me go back to. Deimos i mean dealers are media expert here and wonderful research but the fact of the matter is if you look at the secretary mike pompei o during this process he was egging the turks on to confront russia because he believed that russia would back down i mean the thing is is that they dont theyve never wanted a resolution in syria that they cant control well everyone lost control pompei or no ones going to listen to and of course you have the hot air from the e. U. No all of this is happening on the ground and they are going to determine the final outcome its taking longer than we all thought but they will go ahead alex well that well this is exactly the point because of course what happens was that yes there were some people in the u. S. Government and in and in the e. U. And in the media who wanted to give full throated support to turkey and not just verbal support the stronger support well designed however the pentagon clearly and. Unequivocally said no they are not prepared to go head to head with the russians on turkeys behalf in india province and its important to stress its not just the Syrian Government that recognizes these groups in italy as terrorists. Yes the entire International Community does the United Nations does the United States does and the European Union does and i think this is perhaps the single biggest flaw in the entire media narrative well no it doesnt exactly you did you just said flaw i will i would change the word fraud ok this is the biggest fraud in the media here go ahead jump in go ahead. I think that the Current Situation its clear that americans are tired of turkey and in america there is a very serious critical position towards their ground and its policy 2nd america is trying to bring back its troops from afghanistan and from other countries of the middle east and nobody is going to increase american involvement in this area especially when you have elections forthcoming and when trance or many times try is opening its thumb on the scale of exactly that this is the waste of money of a stove for its a waste of lives which means in this situation and then a 2nd important thing is. Whats the especially europe they are tired of turkey on their gun and nobody is looking through their fingers and that he is organizing a base car once or for refugee towards the border or European Union moving ferreting out is it is reporting from syria to know exactly which means all is rhetorical in the sense that when it to support turkey we need to show a unity over the last. 8 just you know. Its exhausted itself you did not a little bit lot of lives each its not having any impact on the russia and the russian leaders thats why putin whats so strong in a so strong position and he was very tough during this negligee it was interesting right prior to a demon the 30 seconds they were saying that the russians and blinked they were going to. Tell me i was ball part of the media here dont you guys think its good most hilarious news came from the greek government you know the greek government newspaper reported that 64 percent. All of the people whom they arrested on the border with turkey cross into turkey well from afghanistan from syria so to key isnt just finally in their. Other country its not from syria so much for one leader the few g. s from leadership that we have to say well there are people in there and the syrians if they wanted my syrians want to go home theres evidence of that look at aleppo were going to go to a short break and after that short break well continue our discussion and some real news stay with r. T. Ok. Ok. Ok. Thank you. Please. Play. Lists lists lists. Lists. And very well might continue watching on since last. Theyre not ones that. Dont want the finished. Take in the city. And then youre going to bring. Me think im. Going to let you know well that. Sounds our. Next guest feeling if one means i love this they not be deep but i learn to face them tokyo found it was going to happen. With because. In the United States president ial candidates debate the future of the u. S. 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Because go back to alex in london lets switch gears and talk about the coronavirus and something that i dont think gets enough discussion is the coronavirus and globalization because you see the vulnerability of this this model this neoliberal model for the World Economy its has a lot of weaknesses we have supply chains under under threat we have to were being forced to reconsider borders even though the left always talk and they believe in open borders well have you have an open border and you have a pandemic that is bad news for everyone i mean there are so many elements here and also with the rise of populist movements all across the globe the whole issue of sovereignty in the coronavirus is making people question or smart people question most people dont want to ask serious questions in the media go ahead alex and. This is the most extraordinary response to the Coronavirus Crisis has been the fact that the European Union has very clearly that hes intending to stand by the whole Free Movement because within the European Union this is a time when its been made clear that we have to have controls on movement in order to control the spread of this virus so here we have the audio globalization if you like confronting the reality of the Decision Makers are going with the n. T. All inji rather than face with alex so to think that the Decision Makers of this ideology are well protected from this virus theyre always protected from all the downside all the negatives of this ridiculous ideology that does less and less for the average person. Theyre going to be fine dont worry about it alex ok the rest of us was here. Negligently that is yes i mean its very true to me because the open borders thing and then and then you look at these supply chains probably get the year wrong so no hope no ones going to sue me i think it was in early 2000 the United States closed down its last factory to produce penicillin its all imported from the outside primarily china and if you look at pharmaceuticals all around the world sourcing comes from china im not blaming china for being the source but globalization allowed that to happen where you have big pharma in the west becoming fabulously fabulously rich because you can outsource from china but when you have a situation like this where a countrys supply chain slow down maybe they can export it because of the virus here i mean no one really seriously thought this out because globalization does put people at risk and were seeing it with this virus i think that took kinks and became clear as a result of this car and i were us when americans openly. Conferred today dont have enough equipment to make the tests which was very very surprising because they had a american politician who can tell the people that you know we are the greatest country and there were richest country in the world and they have only 1000 tests or something because they dont have equipment which means this is the result of this globalization as youve said and problem which is for me very interesting and i dont know what the answer how much global media is playing that negative role and easy used against china and the chinese economic interest because desmond i was in china of course think chinese. B. You know more clothes and limiting their expansion is it global interest although. Thats really one of the smartest people i know in your beat and you can throw in this element of racism as well that is being played well i was in london with alexander kiras actually about a week and a half ago and then the chinatown area was basically vacant ok i would say you know give me your the your ideology guys here ok. Well house here but i mean what im trying to get at here is that this isnt because globalization has created allowed these threats to become more real. We have an opportunity to push back and reassess this ideology at the same time because i think that is in our our interest also and also themselves and be curious and later is that the American Medical System is on trial right now lets talk about the ideology well history shows us that in many cases proponents advocates of to go just became their victims you know. Especially when studying destroyed the old cormorant if there was a good example so the same story here i think the initial reaction in the United States in the year was its all chinas fault there was a cover up there were fake mules you know what cheney is going to dissolve for their meat and they only eat bats and they bats you know and then suddenly well 1st people in the west dont trust the media off the rush of the new trade to do separation after wards of coverups people taunt droste recitals media you know and then western media find that it started seriously right in a ball their respects in San Fransisco in the United States suddenly again and youre spiegel magazine they had a huge article about you in a quarantine you know in some Fantasy School if you have a home office youre protected. But what about all of these hundreds thousands of people you know all who are delivering food the whole are still homeless situation in San Francisco and los exactly what about people who have to use Public Transportation you know who can or be driven. To their office by texas so suddenly this inequality becomes even more visible you know and and all of the talk of. Huge wide wall which is open for you is suddenly becoming so hollow you know and the european suddenly we have a situation when the borders with italy are open and the disease can spread from there while just recently they refused to take people from syria who belonged to the government side please remember why did our certain his people fight so desperately against. The these were missed because they were left no choice europe was taken refugees from syria if they were on the side of the government so i think that this globalist ideology its it trapped itself you know if. You go back to in london but its also a political weapon isnt it ok the chinese arent prepared to glide need they werent transparent the Trump Administration is slow in reacting i mean its a cudgel i mean they i mean its really quite pathetic people are being impacted in some people are dying but no its a political cultural thats what the good part of the Mainstream Media wants the u. S. Theyre not interested in this virus theyre interested in scoring political points in an election year. And thats and i think that was very true at the beginning especially when it was made the career colonel virus in china became as weve just heard the the excuse for 9 and a Chinese Campaign and a horrible one and of course its now being imported back to the United States which is. Campaign against donald trump but of course neither the address the underlying problem of how to deal with the outbreak like this and it seems to me what the coronavirus affair has shown is one you need a strong government and strong will thought routines in a moment of crisis to deal with the matter of a crisis of this nature as china shows china does have such a strong government and that goes back to the question of sovereignty that you are identical on and the 2nd is the basic your entire economy on financial financialization on the Financial Services and ignoring manufacturing and resources and relying on just in time supply chains from around the world exposes you to enormous risks and these are points that have been made many times yes you havent seen. The truck been ministration is pin blame for this but it was a trumpet that moved all of these factories in charges in china ok i mean if you know its easy to blame trump and its easy to blame these political elites and their culpable but not trump he wasnt around at the time but you know china quite gladly started building this equipment because its high value high margin equipment that you can export to the world i mean there are a winner here and i think your point is excellent taken here is that this is a strategy to slow that down and to start. Truncating their growth which of course is kind of stupid because weve gotten down the path of globalization so much that of china sneezes and i hate using this. The rest of the worlds gets a call to ok so its too late to do that ok yeah exactly once over and over this true concern in the United States where in the United States there was a job to do. The rest or the world. Quite cold. It goes to chinese because they are producing everything practically you know what if it was. Another information which appears to be a worse widely circulated in American Media that google was on microsoft and others. Proposed their employees to home to work from home you know not at 1st i want. To come back to. The idea here you can have gated communities but gated gated communities can survive without supplies or food or you know some other kind of service that is but wh