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Don its very yeah thank you and today yeah right so i suppose there is no lake traditional way of explaining what you do you its like a 21st century sort of merger because you you know environmentalism urban Design Technology into something that doesnt quite have like one name like how you name what you do yourself i dont explore let me magnet more in this lets try to lets try to figure out what it could be done with and what im the son of a math teacher kicked out a foreign art school twice most of architecture lot of people telling me what i want could never be done and and its my job to prove them wrong so youre right i think the house and. You know yeah yeah so those i think i think its sort of interesting to make connections between art between design between architecture between technology and making new links in order to activate the world around us i think indeed when i was young when i was 16 my parents always suggest to juice if the jews are going to science or i dont want to choose i want to do it all so maybe its more about trying to find the combination or making new connections between all those disciplines and be a hybrid and well i suppose thats really out with them of our time so you really do anything you want theres no limit to it you know when youre always sort of an amateur trying to become an expert and so youre driven by curiosity rather than definitions and and it was interesting when i was a. Young broken innocent long time ago i worked in a secondhand bookstore not so far from here as a student but sometimes i would work late at night and it was 2nd hand bookstore and the train would already leave so they would allow me to sleep in the bookstore and there was one space was a little bit smaller than this space which exactly fit that the one person mattress in that space was the russian literatures space pushkin gold chicle novel called the ask so i would fall asleep to being surrounded by a great mosque. Theres. You know i really feel sort of influenced my dreams at that time but its still there yeah so is there a big dreamer so yeah exactly its almost there in my brain as well and that was as a reader did you know there are far away just series. Where theres much more here. It was russian that your find it yes no yeah there yeah yeah i like gogol i like the city stories like the crazy ones or the yeah but its sort of the world is brutal but its also poetic and theyre sort of its sort of brutal poetry and they have they have a tough life but they find their own beauty it is something that would sort of explain your style into words but portray at the snow i think with what looks triggered me in the stories d is the notion of the journey and to explore and trying to find your own way in reality and the one and we have these very confusing right now it is wrong to think we have rising sea level air pollution traffic jam viruses in china so how can we make sense of the world again how can we add meaning to the world and maybe thats why i create and to to be saying and in order to improve so im going to go through. All your many of your projects to give the viewers sure idea what is it that you do exactly so for instance to smoke a tower which is literally like a tower at that sort of takes in air pollution and release the cleaner air yeah i mean its a great thing and from crack of to beijing and theyre like big hit do you think that it could be something that you could put up in every corner in every city of course and why why arent they doing it then well because we live in a world where 2 polluters for free. So what is the price of clean air and youre right i think the importance of clean air is getting more and more attention. Kids have asked mind big cities or people live shorter lives allergies allergy yeah yeah and you feel the pressure of the polluted air so i became inspired by small by pollution and i really wanted to show the beauty of clean air and by making these clean air parks which are 20 to 70 percent more clean than the rest of the city you create a sort of an oasis where people can see the future could feel the future and indeed to trigger the question why is it up. Everywhere and thats exactly the meaning of the project so so youre getting the essence of the birds eye exam that is exactly the case if you want to further and youre doing this thing called the smoke free bikes for young put it device on the ice cream stare so are they making any difference because thats all i want to know because i want to have kids in the future and im thinking and i want to bring them to you know a way where old where i know they will survive the towers and for public spaces which for everyone and at the same time the bike sharing is becoming very popular in asia so we do develop a little device on the Steering Wheel which sucks up polluted air cleans it and releases it so you can cycle and not be polluted. A lot of people d you know want a car because of the pollution but of course more cars more pollution so we want to celebrate the bicycle and we want to promote it and also give it some kind of lifestyle and some kind of coolness and some kind of media thats also as important as the text or you know and then you have conceptual stuff like water leaks and what is that basically that you sort of use lights to flood the public space and youre saying well this is what is going to be like if they see the level was raised and its an amazing idea to sort of like a virtual flood revelation of leds and lenses which shows how high water level would be in the future. We all know climate is changing we all know our world has changed at the same time its very abstract and people are one of the greenies and its a bit confusing the numbers that you see so by making it a very physical and by making a collective experience that we had 5060000 people one night you know look at it you activate people to not be scared of the future but curious so we do suppose. Can we generate energy from the changing in time weve built floating cities so i think the role of the art that i make is to x. Of a people and that they are more feeling more connected to the future and being part of the solution instead of being sad or angry or waiting so i guess like every time someone like you tries to. You know sort of raised the awareness that bequest in this do you only attract attention of what you said 50000. 00 people watching it or do you actually does that whatever it is that you do actually spread them to act well thats the reason why i make it part arjun activator and sometimes theres sort of a practical solution like small tree thats like a local solution very practical and sometimes its more about you know opening up the minds of the people its about showing the beauty you are to wonder i think it really depends on the conversation im having you know the questions im being asked the thing that inspires me at the moment. The weird thing about the future is the future is not to a 5 percent less worse its something you know what we dont know. And so we 1st have to imagine the future in order to get there you know and see if you like feature is something rich it you think is like fluid and whatever it is yeah youre imagining what we have to created 1st in our brain and then once you can imagine it you can you know constructed engineer a prototype and make it happen and if it is like 100 percent depending on our thought and sort of the usual lazing and realizing there is like a 5050 faith and whatever it is that you do what is it that you that its a good question i dont know but on 4th for for sure i know we 1st have to imagine it otherwise we dont get there so this whole folder flow thing. Isnt b. S. We know it was not working there isnt working anymore its crashing no sort of law is our question regarding Climate Change definitely yeah and we dont have a solution and you know im a professor at universities where students are mad you know because they need to spend so much time alone in the fixing the plastic in the ocean the air pollution so they can do the kind of creates that can only correct and thats not a good. Age to be in you know a good area to be in so lets talk about 21 technical things more if youre saying yeah ok this whole our deal with Climate Change is not why but how great so what i guess is theyre going to do im so tired of the why we are like why should Everybody Knows the why forget about the why we know we have to be sustainable so there are some people who still disagree but you know theyll figure it out so its about the how how do we make it happen and how do we make a world with better for me how do you help the rephrase that question with what it is that you do well i used acknowledge e to Bring Solutions i use arent and these are into showed a beauty of the new world that people will accept it more evenly and im trying to make new connection which before never existed what do you mean you can well for example the spaceways lap its a project im working on very tentatively now with. The space agencies theres more than 8100000 people off space junk floating around our universe. Cannot tell our viewers what it is thats basically what like green little laser we started launching satellites rockets from 1903 a sport make apolo chinese russian american lot of countries and they started to collide so you have more than 8100000. 00 q. Of junk floating around the universe and because they have high speed 27. 00 i was getting meters per hour when they hit an existing satellites like ball so its a threat to our day to day communication and nobody really knows how to fix it so we launch spaceways lap. To visualize real time or to space junkies with light rays light rays yeah its great labor barking in your hat right in israel i guess right there who is to fix it so we finally have an official mission now to develop a sort of small cube set alight with nets like it like a fish or capture fish its more complicated what is unlikely because it can fit more than we grab its ok capture it and but then the 2nd phase is ok then once we have a there but what should we do with it that maybe its not a problem but we cant really show where do you get rid of it i mean what you put the earth instead of the atmosphere which youre with it. Through exercise so if you have a net you have space junk capture something that is floating or and then you have the earths atmosphere so when in a controlled way with a little d you know engine you can it hits the earths atmosphere in a controlled reentry what happens then it. Pollute you know what has all this yeah it burns burns ok so and what happens when something burns it gets a question like this late in life ok so thats what were working on now waste is lights so were creating artificial shooting stars ok as a replacement for traditional fireworks. So the feeling of the universe and we have a new way of fireworks so were going to government do by spending 8200000. 00 u. S. Dollars on fireworks every year now and 7070. 00 millions and they really are a moron where those little dreamer is those are what they were going to the minister ministers as they think that budget that you are already spending and you spend it on this a zeros got a project to clean up the universe and you have a new way forward what do they say the ministers when you go they said they didnt say no yet so really good there so i think in 3 to 5 years we will have that realized and so am i smarter than a czar naza no because theyre really smart but what i can do as a designer as an artist is to look at it in a different way and say its not waste its a shooting star so i designed the last 2 percent and that changes the project completely and some of the you know theres disney there cities there so you make new connections between space industry and tourism cities etc thats the stuff that were doing here and thats the stuff that we do excites me so what made you all of a sudden swell suite to switch from like Climate Change and smog to taking care of the waste enormous walleye i want to live in a world where were pollution those that exist you know and i think its weird that we accept pollution air pollution Water Pollution space pollution and especially space you know thats our new frontier we should learn from the sort of mistakes that we may complain of and everybody has a right for clean space and you think its should be something that is sort of human in casework to overpopulate so its going to its or you know its unacceptable so i was walking that were now in the studios we have a team of project managers designers engineers architects and i was Walking Around as we were working a lot of a project and i saw this. Huge black image with a lot of white dots in this big delta the middle and whats that you know it looked like the sort of abstract american painting this. And they said that space junk is the 8. 00 like whats thats crazy so thats typically a project we initiated i spend my own money and time on it and now the clients are coming into this thing so its going to be fascinating or a bit crazy but get down we got to take a short break right now when were back well continue talking to. You about the future stay with the. Same wrong wrong wrong just dont call. Me that you get to shape out disdaining educated and in the game equals betrayal. When so many find themselves worlds apart. Choose to look for common ground. Join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and ill be speaking to guest of the world of politics or business im sure. Ill see you there. And were back with innovative thinker artist designer harder here in his studio don what do you say to all those like skeptics that are like you know there is no Climate Change you know its always been there this is a cycle you guys just dont remember yeah this is all b. S. And this is just scare people off ok. Then i dont know how to weather is on their planet because all my planet its very concrete you know people are scared of change and thats very normal and people have to get used to do ideas thats also very normal but i think we shouldnt hide or be scared who should be curious. And invest in new ideas to survive the end its about that and its not just that its necessary its also fun and. Theres sort of a joy in making radical ideas happen and theres sort of a joy in having people look at reality in a different way and open up their mind and it can be via a book or a movie but it can also be about public art and design so design is not just a chair or a lamp or a table but these ideas about improving life and its and its really fun to work on that as well but i feel like youre so different from every of their modern art artists or instill 8 or that i met because theyre so much about selfexpression and the commentary these are that if i am a 3 person yeah it was you know like i was now lenny in my teddy bear. I had a teddy bear yeah i cry when i was your great no im not so interested so it is definitely about me in my mind my feelings of course but i want to talk as much about the week the world as about to me my personal relationship with that i think there i mean you know when you do something that gives Something Back to the people to society it somehow is way more rewarding. Than if i just do it for myself i just dont think its that and i dont think im that interesting that you could teach them everything that is that youre doing right now which is like really looking forward. Into the future and shaping up for the best rate is it something that happened with the past like 5 slash 10 years when we started talking about Climate Change ok yeah i think its definitely something of these 80 like maybe 20 years ago you would be about me and my teddy bear and you know you would die homer and would be really cool i dont know as brave you guys but if you buy our Armored Vehicle and i have been very harmer no love there are so yes there is a very interesting are these are our notion of what is beauty or what is luxury or what is what is what is normal has changed and sustainability is in that not just that word but its about that we are aware that you we are us we are connected and if i do something stupid to you in a way it will influence me as well as the more you understand the relationship we are in whether we like it or not but its you know were all crew and passengers are not specified or were all part of it whether we like it or not and the more your aware of the relationship the more you can interact and play i think thats a thats thats thats thats life thats thats it i think internet that all of that right because i was talking to this great lady shes very huge an Artificial Intelligence and were saying that everything thats going on right now especially with internet it really reminds us of when they invented the atomic bomb only you know when it blew out the it only blew up in a certain place but yes something were to blow up now its everywhere we dont understand is that its going to go bad everywhere yes or we have a we read relationship with technology i think. Right now today you mean all of us we become sort of robots food were feeding our hopes our dreams our desires our money to computer screens and what do we get back you know like thats thats a bad deal so when this technology jumping out of this week when its technology helping me to keep me healthier to keep me informed or to keep me you know feeling connected. And i missed it so we will live in an area the post screen area where we will look less at all the screens and it will be more in harmony or it will help us more but there is no youve got them here but im really tired of you know feeding machines yeah im just robot food because like everyone i speak to right now theyre pretty much convinced that this is an irreversible thing where were going to become house robots and then eventually going to be no robots and then Artificial Intelligence is the future i mean i dont really believe in the whole scary krauss singularity period thing but i do feel like there is something that is beyond my control in terms of what will happen to me as a human being and isnt sure whether its a good comment so i think. Theres a George Orwell scenario were dominated but theres also a lot of this in she scenario where we used to fly and i was thinking about it this morning i was at t. W. A. Terminal in new york. Airport this is beautiful all terminal built in 107172 and it was built in a time when people were curious about the future you know we would