When it comes to spying. Program u. S. Probably us anybody having. Access to our data. Flow good evening its 11 oclock here in moscow you with r. T. International turkeys president says it is only a matter of time before he launches a military operation in the syrian province of idlib and claims hes been dissatisfied by talks with russia on the situation that. This you miss over to go. To key has made all kinds of preparations to implement its operational plans and as in every operation we see we can come suddenly one night to put it more clearly operation is now a matter of time we will not leave to the regime that still does not understand our countrys determination in this matter and to those who encourage it we never intend to shoulder the burden that the developments in this region who place on our country the syrian army is currently on an offensive in a deliberate trying to drive militants in this in the midst moscow says that he has failed to separate the more opposition from terrorists there in what is the last remaining pocket of militants in the country which shows a Turkish Military convoy crossing the Syrian Border and a large line of tanks Armored Vehicles and supply trucks are reportedly moving towards the outskirts of a deliberate. Told neil harvey have this sudden escalation of. The situation on the ground remains very dramatic terrorist activity there is very high and you have to remember its a boss to region in syrias north home to up to 3000000 people including civilians and they are very often used by terrorist as a human shield its clear for everybody that actions are needed urgently to protect these people from the other hand the attacks by turkey backed armed forces based in egypt against the syrian army continue and these also should be stopped and countering that is something what damascus military operation on the ground in basically a ad and its not that mr out of the gun is not happy with how things develop on the ground no one is in fact happy if no one. Is to blame for the situation thats a good question but it depends on who you ask both sides are blaming each other we hear from russia and its position is quite clear remains the same that Turkish Military operation only syrians. Well thats another state you have to remember what would be the worst Case Scenario we heard that from president spokesperson earlier on wednesday Dmitry Peskov and russias foreign minister Sergey Lavrov also commented on mr gun statement in the similar way. To separate militants from terrorists in the timeframe on the 2018 agreements at the same time provocations from the. Shearling of the Syrian Armed Forces civilian targets and the russian base have continued naturally the Syrian Armed Forces reaffirming their commitment to the original grievance including cease fire agreements respond to such an acceptable provocations and we support them in this what mr lover of is talking about is last year so to agreements that turkey and russia came to this is when both sides were equally happy and satisfied and according to these agreements its turkish responsibility too i repeated again to separate socalled like hardline terrorists and islam is based in and socalled moderate opposition and talk to that and force them believe me of these area and it hasnt been done properly it hasnt been achieved never so its in turkey its turkish responsibility so turkey is failing 1st the russian standpoint how does turkey see the situation while turkey is very clear turkey is accusing most and damascus of escalating the situation of. Agreements and this is the turkish president just recently. The Syrian Regime as well as the Russian Forces in iran backed militants acting within the globe continuously attacking civilians committing massacres and causing bloodshed. And we hear that despite numerous talks that turkish and russian sides have been having in the last days including between foreign and defense ministers. So its really interesting why have the gun changed so dramatically hes raster a good twit can remember that it somehow ironically coincide with a dramatic shift in ankara washington relations with sanctions lifted with mr paul as the police say that america is ready to stand by its nato ally and mr trump openly and directly backing of the guns actions in syria had a very good job or say shit with president carter was i respect him we have a very Good Relationship yes i agree. But we have a very Good Relationship i see you do better with the people but the fact is that hes fighting audit led he doesnt want people to be killed by the thousands and hundreds of thousands let it go be about that and other reasons but we spoke about it live and were working together on what you mean so here is something new for mr trump for mr theyre gone both america and turkey changed their wrath rick and its not helping things on the ground of the director of the case Crisis Research Institute Mark almond believes it will be the Syrian Refugees who pay the price if there is a further escalation. Could draw russia and turkey into a war because the Russian Force is on the side of the syrians in combating the local rebels and turkey has intervened would clearly be taking the side of the rebels and in order to do that it would have to provide protection for its forces from the air it would have to use its own air force its own antiaircraft missiles which would put at risk russian airplanes we would be back if you like to the crisis situation of 2015 when the turks shot down a russian aircraft. So its potentially very dangerous situation even if we dont go that far thats the worst case even if we just get to a case where the Turkish Forces increase or a true bombardment of the syrians the situation on the ground which is often discussed as a humanitarian crisis will get worse for the refugees because ill be trapped between 2 lines of fire rather than just one so it very very messy situation and i think president of the worms rather capricious personality is really the unknown factor is he just barking or would he bite and if hes going to bite then the risk of things spiralling out of control is really the. Some a strain m. P. s have called on the u. K. Government to stop it you can assign just extradition to the u. S. That after they visited the wiki leaks cofounder he was an Australian National in the prison where hes being held ahead of an extradition hearing. Beyond belief that someone who is that so bright and often isolationist so greatly. Should be rewarded by facing extradition and sitting down to speak in one count i would act. Very closely at the height of. Arrogance and at the height of destroying documents one of the lawmakers George Christiansen also says theres a sign just health is a serious concern. Spike in this wake with professor mills mels of the un special rapporteur on torture. Come to the opinion along with a number of medical experts that Julian Assange was exhibiting the symptoms of psychological torture visited Julian Assange. And are going to cite is nothing that are sore that actually. Discredited what those doctors and what mills melzer said he is exhibiting saw ends of disorientation. He did tell us about being kept in severe or solution and ongoing loss a large negative side technically within belmarsh prison the conditions of the subject to apparently. But when you kept by yourself 20 to 22 it was a guy with that minimal human contact youre effectively ocelot it so all of that has led to a guess at the plated state of health for julian a songe and i dont think its fair or told to extradite an australian citizen. At of one foreign country into another foreign country to face charges for what for reporting on the facts well doctors around the world have all said condemned the u. K. s handling of the case warning songes being subjected to psychological torture in jail more than 100. 00 medics have signed a joint letter. To take action they also called on the Australian Government to you into they need to protect the citizen it is the 4th such from me ma inmates that belmarsh prison have also shown their support they petition for songe to be transferred from the hospital wing to one dedicated for the 50 while the organizer of the extradite songe Campaign Says if extradited. To face and jewry. Were so way away from judy in the region where we will or will not be extra to the United States but he certainly shouldnt be extradited to the United States were he to be extradited he would find himself in a court of a very special car of the year its the socalled s. Were caught where the u. S. State has never lost an espionage case where the jurors are chosen from a population pool 80 percent of who work for the pentagon the National Security council or the cia so hes going to go probably a quarter of this country where theres no jury to a court in the United States where theres a bet youre so i think the only chance you house of justice is to be set free People Research conducted. Now on a trip to brussels the u. S. House of representatives has warned the allies against our way nancy pelosi insists the chinese tech giant is a major threat to security and should be barred from developing 5 g. Networks in europe which could be used for spying but she failed to mention americas own far reaching Global Surveillance Network is kind of mopping explains. Now the impeachment debacle is all wrapped up guess whos going to europe in order to promote one of the trumpet ministrations key policies its the speech ripper herself nancy pelosi the speaker of the u. S. House of representatives is urging European Countries to drop plans to use while away as their 5 g. Carrier for the benefit of a few corporations you cannot sell the privacy of the people of your country down the river assess said before its like having the state police the Chinese State police right in your pocket you see nancy pelosi just cares about your privacy are that she is one of what Edward Snowden called the gang of 8 key figures that are overseeing. Surveillance in the United States is for as snowden he did and there on the inmate in disagreeing with you he did violate the law in terms of. Of for leasing those documents we dont know i understand. And i understand odd timing as well its just been revealed that the cia was the secret owner of a Swiss Company that was offering people encrypt peoples privacy was compromised because the cia had a backdoor what the u. S. Government speculates that china might be doing they have been caught doing themselves while the e. U. Might be more apt to listen to a top democrat then to the donald it seems they still arent buying nancys song and dance her euro 2 were is a flop. Well he will be able to influence them with the peaks good bye she believes in such numbers destruction to texas or c. So we decided to ask people what they think of this supposed danger of china spying on them are they more afraid of china spying on them or the american probity us and im not so much worried about china im worried about anybody in her having access to our data. To be more. Ready to spy on you to the chinese it could come from anywhere in the world probably us. Again you would guess just the us given say the alignment of interest from over the us probably you know what the us this far as im concerned. Can go to hell i dont know trump along with them its a common pattern of Human Behavior Sigmund Freud called it projection nothing drives us crazy or thinking that someone else might be doing that naughty thing that we know we are doing ourselves up and r. T. New york meanwhile the u. S. State department has once again called on e. U. Countries to shun the chinese tech giant huawei in favor of 5 g. Equipment by Ericsson Nokia and also samsung. Scott reaction from huawei usa you can watch the full interview with r. T. Dot com but hes a quick taste. It was interesting the u. S. Government says that they declassified the information so we welcome the opportunity to see what the evidence is but we really have to look at this in the broader context of the ongoing geo political dynamic between the u. S. And china the u. S. Has some major issues with china and right now the u. S. Wants to hurt china so badly that theyre going to hurt america in trying to her way and thats really a shame if you look back some years ago when i brought snowden revealed information about the u. S. Program prism and about the 5 Year Campaign of the u. S. Government to spy on wa wait operation shop giant where they monitored all why not work for 5 years and could not find any Improper Communications and in the present program they found that the u. S. Government used for example cisco equipment to spire on the world most recently the Washington Post crypto a. G. D. A Swiss Company that turned out is controlled by the cia so theyve been monitoring encrypted communications of all the countries in the world except for china and russia so the fact is it is important to recognize the role of the equipment vendors and the telecom and mobile operators there is a lawful backdoor by the telecom the mobile operators that is triggered by lawful action by governments such as the u. S. Government or china government we dont have that access we dont control that data. Now obese at your peril thats the warning from the u. K. Health service which is tightening its tolerance when it comes to on routine patients doctors can already refuse nonemergency care to aggressively patients but the new rules do come into effect in a much broader now all types of harassment bullying or discrimination will be covered and that includes sexist racist. Comments in h. S. Says any piece of stuff has to be taken seriously. We will not tolerate assaults physical or verbal against his colleagues staff all volunteers all assault and hate crimes against in the gist of must be investigated with care compassion diligence and commitment well under the new agreement police are also being handed more power to you to deal with crimes against medical staff according to a National Health survey last year alone a quarter of all star 1st subjected to at least one case of harassment and thats adding pressure to staff already under strain 4 out of 10 now complain of feeling unwell because of stress at work lets discuss the merits of all of this is a columnist and you will serve and author lee jasper hes a social activist both newquay and you both very welcome lets start with you 1st it sounds like a good idea isnt it protecting n. H. S. Workers from a piece of patients. Up to the other anybody goes to work. Their money in and deliver vocation within the n. H. S. Deserve respect and where there are subject to the kind of abuse that has been reported in the n. H. S. Workforce survey then you know i think that its entirely unacceptable i think is right that people are desired. Denied nonemergency care and thats what this is and if youve ever been on a horse in a hospital in britain in the accident and Emergency Department on a friday night and then it is very very stressful place indeed lots of people coming in. Drunk swearing seeing all sorts of busa physical as well as. Verbal its just not good for the staff its not good for the care of patients. Nobody really in the 21st century hes does. Of that sort of treatment but should we be concerned leigh its all about this in the broad nature of whats been said here because he would be determining what is homophobic what is racist what is sexist if you have a sensitive member of stuff they might be offended if you get somebody else they wouldnt be offended with what you said who decides where the line is is that where theyre concerned with this. I think that when you look at the n. H. S. Stuff theyre overwhelming concern is to provide support to help people in need so they do prepared to put up with quite a lot i think where it really crosses the line is all severe verbal and physical abuse where the line is well that will depend on the circumstances in the context of each particular situation but i think we can all agree that wherever one might draw the line its not acceptable for caring stuff people who are working hard to provide health care and support all those to be subject to the kind of filthy abuse that we see sometimes occurring in accident and Emergency Department and im sure everybody would agree. Is it ethical for a doctor to turn somebody away or a nurse see will this he needs help. Well i think theres a couple of points to make isnt the clearly and stuff being abused is something thats all except the ball and you know nobody has a duty to go into work to be racially abused the question is you know the devil is in the detail if you look at the case of harry miller the former Police Officer made a joke that was just phobic you know the police came to visit said and it went all the way to court so i think that that is a major concern that we need so we need to be sure that were not going to end up in a situation whereby people whove maybe made a little bit of a joke arms are able to be treated ports here is another thing thats extremely important the n. H. S. Is now saying they wont treat. People who are overweight they wont treat people who smoke they wont treat people who have made certain comments they wont treat people who provide that you cannot reasonably expect these people to pay for. That they do not receive so what you more still you is also excuse these people from paying the elements of tax that would go towards the n. H. S. So theyre able to make their own private provision i think that is a 3rd way to do things let me just respond to that because it really has come back up isnt it you actually decides this on the definitions of whats been laid down here by the governments own you know what people should be offended by what sort of comments would be determined to be homophobic for example its very difficult to define well i think as i said before its not that difficult to define with a with an ounce of common sense i think that most caring staff within the n. H. S. Do put up with a fair amount of abuse but on occasion it can go too far and it can cross the line and that line is quite broad i think in terms of what theyre prepared to put up with by nature of their profession their caring understanding and i think that theyre perfectly entitled their right not to be subject to direct comments about their sexuality about their faith about their own or some ray said example a side somebody says ok love thanks very much ive heard people say they were offended by somebody says love to them. Even though its not meant to be derogatory because it depends where you live it depends how youve been brought up but what im trying to say is that some people might be offended by something that would be considered to be innocuous by the person whos making it. So you are very well what you very well may be right and i think they would be wrong to be offended its a poll and the vast majority of abuse that is reported in the n. H. S. Survey hes not of the type or to all its all very real substantive offensive abuse that would be normally considered offensive by any normal and rational people were not talking about the world political classes at the n. H. S. Workers were talking about ordinary people doing a great job on the what are some very difficult circumstances and im sure and i trust their ability and not only to make great right care decisions but to draw the line properly in relation to any offense that may be caused you think thats fair comment im sorry. Comment. It is actually yeah i mean the one saving grace of this proposal is as lee says were not talking about what snowflakes i mean anybody who works in the next instant mergence the department is pretty ripostes the point is that that people go far too far i mean whats incredibly frustrating about this is that we live in a system in this country where you can drink 10 pints of lager you know enjoy yourself in some form of misadventure shouts abuse and his staff be treated said you know i would like to see a situation where the cost of the treatment is charged but potentially equally i think if people are turned away then i think that they should be able to make their own private provision ports if what we were talking about here was a University Campus or Something Like that id be far more concerned but you know you cant get away from the fact that leeds writes that nurses and doctors within the n. H. S. Are not go i suspect not going to be very snowflake about this is there a danger in in some cases im just trying to make the case against a bit arcade imagine a situation where it could actually inflame the situation if you got somebody somebody getting in seeing a need for example desperately need tell. Had a few drinks hes a bit defensive then just saying sorry say were not going to help you tonight he could actually get a lot more aggressive it could make the situation a lot worse for the people also in any wealth. I think i think almost guaranteed to happen but its how you manage it. Yeah i think on most occasions certainly the potentiality but you know we have to make some rules based on the majority experience and the majority experience is not those of the extremes locally though assaults on a. J. Stuff are on the rise they still constituent minority of assaults and offenses on stuff so i think we have to trust already an h. R. 8 staff to draw the line sensibly and i think that most people in the country and elsewhere particularly the families of n. H. S. Saved from day to day see them coming home you know sometimes in tears and sometimes you know completely stressed out with the amount of bufs that they have to take all particularly over a friday and saturday night and hes the just totally unacceptable and i think most people sensible people will trust our n. H. S. Staff to draw the line yes you can find those you know extreme examples. Where it may appear unjust and im sure there will be cases where a better judgment could have been made on the night but we are talking about a group of workers who were can do tremendous pressure who are doing an incredibly great job under the most difficult circumstances and if they get things wrong from time to time then i think thats perfectly acceptable given the nature of the job and the stress that they have to deal with just wondering how youre thinking i think that is all there is. You know what what one point i was going to make which i think is a significant danger here now i wont list the words concerned but there are the piece of terminology particularly around and indeed on sexuality that we deemed acceptable say 203040 years ago which is now considered all the acceptable and i think its extremely important particularly with older people who might be on the word that sensitive and say the early treated because eventually somebody may sometimes Say Something off color but not mean its so i think youve also got to look behind the reasons why somebody has said what theyve said i think theres no malice sedates that i think weve got to prefer to that person. Just been wondering certainly how we reached this point is there always been a beast in the n. H. S. But its only just now we decided to do something about it or is this just a wider reflection of whats happening in society. I is a wider reflection of whats happening in society i think the internet as made as a loss of a lot less humane a lot less polite and a lot more likely to say those things normally social convention amongst intelligent people would constrain and as a consequence i think everybodys agreed that the social. Environment of political discourse and an interracial ins person into relations have become very much more hostile very much more toxic in response to the andres thing i mean you never hear black people complaining about being called colored and stuff like does particularly from the elderly and again care staff are perfectly sensible enough to say ok did or worry about it theyll ignore that stuff its not the stuff that is the cause of the majority stress in the produce it is the real vile stuff part of the drinking culture in this country which is now you know getting way out of control with off licenses and stricken establishes open way later than was normal in the old days the 11 oclock closing and 2 oclock close it just means that stuff are putting up with drunken idiots shouting all kinds of abuse offering all kinds of physical threats to them and its just entirely unacceptable. Hes got 30 seconds left. Well have got to Say Something the thing that amazes me talking about things like the internet is that you are willing to Say Something to the entire world on twitter that you wouldnt say to 4 people in the pub i do think there is a corner that people have become less polite and less generous and i think that there is a risk here associates with that so as long as we dont go too far this probably isnt about proposal ok great look all thanks to you both i was on a walk or economist for the new York Observer and also just for their sexual activities thank you. So thats how things look inside heart that i hear not a shes coming up to half 11 evening a mosque and were back again at this help here. Join me everything on the alex salmond show and ill be speaking to guests of the world of politics sports business im show business ill see you then. A low in welcome the cross for all Things Considered im Peter Lavelle the Atlantic Alliance the bedrock of the post world war 2 Global Security order is slowly but surely unraveling more and more often washington and brussels diverged on important Foreign Policy issues today europe has a choice to defend its interests or fade into oblivion