A city street you want to. Be so youd like to see that this is joyce state and see a rolls royce gracie suggests least systemic deception is to late show but shes. So. Welcome im going to watch it with. An island a major this is incredible wow look at this i mean from the cold war all the way up into 2002 in the cia along with german told the centrally run on the biggest and Corruption Company in the world giving them access to tons of people of governments foreign governments and businesses and banks. Secret messages that they encrypted this is incredible it is incredible but not surprising i think of this on the vein of this guy is going to always be blue the suns going to always come up in the morning and go down in the evening and stars are always going to be in the galaxies and with all of that were always going to have with the i. A. E. A. That gets information by whatever means necessary and i feel like this is par for the course for what the cia is designed to do at the end of the day we have a lot of we have a lot of National International interest and when it comes to the cia i dont think that there is in there is an international or subnational act or organization that they. Bill is off limits and it is impossible to have one that is purely that is purely nonnegotiable and one that will not take months we know this is story plea that the cia have been known to pass through has been known to acknowledge that later on that they have given money to certain entities but also that it is very hard to be someone who is an isolationist within this field i think that for the cia it is all about getting the human intelligence it is all about getting the Geospatial Intelligence it is about making sure that you have all the most up to date technology but its also about knowing how to get into places that you normally would not be able to get into and i think they do this sometimes in very shadowy ways but this is not surprising its not surprising but do you think it crosses the line though because when you look at it they no one knew they own the Company Employees who are going out selling products for the centrally tainted products on one hand they are damaged products that we couldnt give those foreign governments the cryptology technology or their products that will allow us to easily hacked into them is that dangerous because there was one employee that was kidnapped by iran during this period and they were questioning him to see if he was a traitor you know but these employees have no idea theyre working for an Intelligence Company doing this that puts people in danger it does post certain levels of difficulties and i think that thats a very thats a very strong point to bring up i think but its also important to acknowledge that again the cia through its process is takes in takes high level risks and those who are associated with it when you come on you know that this is supposed to be of the most in secrecy but also that there are several things that could be detrimental to happen to you but also those around you should any of this information week i think that for the cia and for us to maintain the strength that we have as a nation in terms of foreign intelligence there are certain measures that have to be taken that arent necessarily things that most people would consider above board. And thats where well disagree because i dont believe we should i dont buy. I dont believe that a were going to hold ourselves to a level of accountability in the level of look at how great we are look at how free we are that we should be allowing our cia to go secretly by major businesses around the world and then act as like oh no we dont but its basically a Front Company for them i strongly disagree with that because to me thats like i get you want to get intelligence i understand that but theyre also getting intelligence from people who are who are supposedly our allies it wasnt of them going after you know russia and china during the cold war they were getting intelligence from greece they were going intelligence from spain you know theyre pulling from all of our friends to let me in life to know what the right hand is doing and i think that for the United States there is a strategic advantage to also knowing we are allies arent we are allies are engaging with because that might not always be very very open information and i think that allies sometimes make these subnational agreements to the best interests of themselves and it might not how it might not be in the best interests of the the allegiance that they have with i want to throw this in before we change topics to one of the employees who is an electrical engineer worked there for 16 years he told the post you think you do good work and you make something secure and then you realize that you cheated these clients and for those employees that no concept of this i think that that was truly dangerous and on ethical to put them in a situation like that let alone buy and a company overseas and keep it under wraps makes me wonder what companies they might own now especially in point the finger like huawei in places like that smile. The United States has blanketed its racism with impunity and equal opportunity anyone who looked spoke or worship differently from the dominant euro centric culture became a target native americans africanamericans Muslim Americans and japanese americans all took a hit 120000 japanese americans were held in internment camps during world war 2 their crime nothing more than their last name and heritage in true American Fashion let the apology to work again. This thursday nearly 78 years after the 1st internment camps were filled californias legislature is slated to approve a resolution formally apologizing to the victims r t correspondent kevin ger has more on this story. Thursday will mark the 70th anniversary of president Franklin Roosevelt executive order 9066 which has been celebrated for years by japanese americans as a day of remembrance but this year california lawmakers are set to vote for a resolution that would formally apologize for the imprisonment of japanese americans during world war 2 and this resolution is expected to get approved and already has governor Gavin Newsoms and doris menow this bill h. R. 77. 00 was introduced by assemblyman sushi a democrat from california and coauthored this with 6 others and really paints a picture of californias anti Japanese Culture which goes way back in history and thats because it does a resolution is not just about world war 2 during pearl harbor but it also mentions how the california alien land love in 1913 which made Land Ownership for japanese immigrants legal and also in 1943 joint resolution by the assembly that all who were also citizens of japan so basically took us citizenship away from japanese dual citizens now it also goes further by calling out u. S. Army general John Allen Devitt for telling california politicians shortly after the pearl harbor attack that the japanese in this country have more arms and ammunition in their presumption that our own armed forces which was a convincing argument that rounded up more than 120000 japanese americans into a camp stool. In world war 2 and you know as some women she said that he really pushed for the bill because he wanted california to lead by example and while our Nations Capital is hopelessly divided along party lines and president is putting immigrant families and children in cages in fact that was the exact comparison Award Winning journalist and historian paul de de re and 0 made on an interview today in question take a listen and i think its interesting to know that dylan meyer who is the chairman of the director of the board that was responsible the authority that was responsible for building these camps when i ought to be head of the bureau of Indian Affairs had pioneered the termination policy to try and recognition of native tribes and native reservations and to disperse the native American Population into the cities of america causing tremendous tremendous problems i think you see also whats happening along the border with mexico is that native properties being condemned and taken over by the u. S. Military or to build their wall for the Trump Administration is another way you see that and this measure is also cosponsored with California Assembly republican leader. Who also was inspired by the Migrant Children held in u. S. Custody over the last year lastly i want to mention that california has had a very dark and unjust history not just against japanese americans but also against Chinese Americans in fact in 1879. 00 california passed a chinese exclusion act prohibiting chinese from working for the government or any Business Incorporated in california plus gave powers to local governments through move on wanted chinese citizens and although the 870 naturalization i granted Citizenship Rights to African Americans it is specifically denied the same rights to the chinese for watching the hawks im sorry it happened. It was a tough story especially because it is it better late than never you know for california say look were sorry there were you know made that mistake and threw everybody into camps back in 1940 s. So you know this is really. It when we think about issues like this typically the federal government takes their notes from the states and what weve seen in california is the exact opposite when reagan in 1988 actually issued an apology for at the federal level and issued money to be spent on the families who actually were in the internment camps the ones that were still till a lot so its very interesting to me that california just thought about this 2 day Ronald Reagan obviously in the california it would have made more sense for california to have jumped on in 88 still late but not 2020 its its interesting too because i think the reason its important to look at stories like this is because it is happening right now where we dont want we wont pretend its not but no what do you think is happening along the border when you take people and put them in a confined space and separate mothers and children and families and all that that some term that is a concentration im sorry its a concentration of people and i think that this actually may be one of the linkages to why why the express interest has come up in california right now think that produced something that was very interesting when she talked about specifically why california was different because it wasnt the japanese americans were only in california or that they even had the largest concentration of japanese americans actually hawaii did at the time in hawaii did not did not know the entire process to the extent that we saw in california they went above and beyond in terms of actually removing almost all of their japanese American Population and again these are people who were for the most part over 70 percent american citizens at that point you know you know these are people these were people who werent really a threat but again you know ok pro harbor happens and the more that happens we lose our minds dont think logically because we make decisions out of fear and patriotism which are to dangerous places to make decisions for. Throughout history youve never really seen a whole lot of good come from saying im going to make a quick decision about this group of people or these things like that because im scared and i love my country at home he seen these america 1st idiology occur decade after decade whenever there is a imposed brand or the thought of an imposed threat america has a habit of outing certain groups to operate typically those groups dont look like your average White American and they do it very well and they codified in law and over time these populations not only are a lot less trusting of the American Government as it shouldnt be but one of the other interesting things is that it causes a lot more trouble down the road one of the major issues with this one was that the Census Bureau at the time actually illegally used its data in terms of its local the locations of a lot of these families their residences and were actually pushing that to Law Enforcement so the u. S. Census bureau was one of the reasons a lot of these folks got rounded up which is now why a lot of people are opting out of the process and only want to do the census but interesting interesting point all right you are it is going to break clark watchers dont forget to let us know what you think it proper to cover on our social media be sure to check out watch in the works the podcast will build on spotify helpful to you because everywhere you listen to your favorite or not so favorite you could also start watching the hawks on the man through the brand new portable t. V. On smart phones google play and the Apple App Store by searching for a ball to be coming up my friends the burghers the verdict is in the u. S. Governments case against the 4 activists who occupies the but as we will never see last spring a member state protector a. G. M. Klein joins us next to discuss state to watch. 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All right welcome back from that lovely break look for those of us whove been following the incredible story and court case of the 4 activists who occupied the Venezuelan Embassy last spring much to the chagrin and anger of not only those supporting and working with juan why dont his attempts to remove venezuelan president Nicolas Maduro from office but also his u. S. Backers here in the white house and state department and Law Enforcement and it goes on well the verdict has come in and it ended in a mistrial yes federal judge beryl how announced a mistrial after the jury could not reach a verdict on the case against the 4 selfproclaimed Embassy Protectors adrian pyne Kevin Zeese Margaret flowers and david paul who occupied the embassy under the permission of the venezuelan government for more than 30 days last april before being forcibly removed last may by u. S. Law enforcement the 4 were charged with knowingly and willfully obstructing resisting in interfering with a federal Law Enforcement agent gauged in the performance of a protective functions authorized under section 37. 00 of the state departments basic dohertys act of 956. 00 sure were all familiar with that act. The penalties for the charge over they faced were one year in prison and up to 100000. 00 in fines that was a piece this mistrial comes despite many roadblocks rulings and legal hurdles thrown out before activists by both the judge and prosecutors on the case joining us now to discuss the trial the hardships and what comes next is the embassy perfect. Place to have you back on the show so i got to start now mistrial how do you feel after seeing your case and in the mistrial and what does this murder verdict mean for you and for those who were supporting your cause and what got you there in the 1st place sure well i mean of course we were delighted with this outcome because given. The way that the courtroom was rigged against it was unlikely that the jury would have been able to come to a verdict of innocent because they were not permitted to hear most of the facts in going into the case so we were really glad that. Some of the jurors really sort of saw through. On the part of the government the lies and were willing to hold out. That you know were willing to say yeah theres some doubt here theres some reasonable doubt but the mistrial means for us obviously that this iteration of the case is over but the government can still decide to start all over again and so we are facing that possibility we have a hearing believe on the 28th and so well see what the government plans to do at that point. Where you remain innocent as we always have been right now. From your perch watching this was that expeditious 4 day process did you have any inkling during it that it was going to end in a mistrial you know my attorneys told us that you cant try to read the tea leaves. Youre always wrong and yeah i mean we had no idea one inclination that we got was that 1st of all that it was a really smart jury they were asking really good questions they were paying very close attention to all of the flaws in the governments case and to our own attorneys arguments and so those questions gave us hope because we really we saw that they were taking it seriously and that they were taking their duties as jurors seriously and then you know the fact that they took longer than presenting the case took it self to deliberate also gave us another inkling that something was going on there so that you know really it was we were we were prepared for the worse because thats really what the government has set up for us