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A shims. In the world of International Politics and big business my friends information is king especially for intelligence agencies like the cia and the n. S. A. And its the cias ravenous thirst for intelligence and control no matter the cost and what lines are crossed that is at the heart of the recent revelations coming out of switzerland regarding the cold wars biggest manufacturer of encryption devices a joint investigation by the Washington Post and german public broadcasters e. D. F. Has revealed that crypto a. G. T. The worlds leading manufacturer or crip to logical equipment during the cold war whose clients including included over 120. 00 governments around the world was a Front Company owned by the United States Central Intelligence agency whoa discovered through a secret 2004 cia historical document and in a 2000 a oral history by german intelligence the operation was considered to be the intelligence coup of the century by taking over the manufacture of the devices this allowed the cia and n. S. A. To rig the crypto agees products so they could easily break the codes and have access to a clients encrypted messages and guess what the cia wasnt just some silent donor either according to the post unbent nouns to most employees except executives at the highest levels the agency controlled nearly every aspect of kryptos operations presiding residing with their german partners over hiring decisions designing its technology sabotaging its algorithms and directing its sales targets the cias own Historical Documents even bragged theyve been brave about the extent of the in the ugliness involved saying quote foreign governments were paying good money to the us and western germany for the privilege of having their most secret Communications Read by at least 2 and possibly as many as 5 or 6 foreign countries. So if the cia only top and Corruption Company in the world up until 2018 it makes you wonder what other companies do they secretly have their hands in and that my friends is why we are always watching the hawks. You warning. On a cd you st you want to. Do so you wish to see the crisis joyce just state and see rolls royce gracie suggests least systemic deception is to late show which would be some real. World government to watch it with. And i will mr cross a major there is incredible wow look at 3rd i mean from the cold war all the way up into 2002 in the cia along with german intelligence essentially ran the biggest and Corruption Company in the world giving them access to tons of people of governments foreign governments and businesses and banks. Secret messages that they encrypted this is incredible it is incredible but not surprising i think of this on the vein of the sky is going to always be blue the suns going to always come up in the morning and go down in the evening and stars are always going to be in the galaxies and with all of that were always going to have a cia that gets information by whatever means necessary and i feel like this is par for the course for what the cia is designed to do at the end of the day we have a lot of we have a lot of National International interest and when it comes to the cia i dont think that there is in there is an international or subnational act or organization that they feel is off limits and its impossible to have one that is purely that is purely nonnegotiable and one that will not take guns we know this is storage lee that the cia has been known to do pass through has been known to acknowledge that while later on that they have given money to certain entities but also it is very hard to be the one who is in isolation its within. Field i think that for the cia it is all about getting the human intelligence it is all about getting the Geospatial Intelligence it is about making sure that you have all the most up to date technology but its also about knowing how to get into places that you normally would not be able to get into and i think they do this sometimes in very shadowy ways but this is not surprising its not surprising but do you think it crosses the line though because when you look at it they no one knew they own the company youve got employees there who are going out selling products for the centrally tainted products on one hand theyve sold like bad or damaged products that we couldnt give those foreign governments the cryptology technology or their products that will allow us to easily hack into them is that dangerous because like there was one employee that was kidnapped by iran during this period and they were questioning him to see if he was a traitor or not you know but these employees have no idea theyre working for an Intelligence Company doing this that puts people in danger to them it does post certain levels of difficulties and i think that thats a very thats a very strong point to bring up i think that its also important to acknowledge that again the cia through its processes takes in takes high level risks and those who are associated with it when you come on you know that this is supposed to be of the most in secrecy but also that there are several things that could be detrimental to happen to you but also those around you should any of this information week i think that for the cia and for us to maintain the strength that we have as a nation in terms of foreign intelligence there are certain measures that have to be taken that arent necessarily things that most people would consider above board. And thats where well disagree because i dont believe we should i dont i dont believe that were going to hold ourselves to a level of accountability in the level of look at how great we are look at how free we are that we should be allowing our cia to go secretly by major businesses around the world and then act as like oh no we dont but its basically a Front Company for them so i strongly disagree with that because to me thats like i get you want to get intelligence i understand. But there also good intelligence from people who are who are supposedly our allies it wasnt just them going after you know russia and china during the cold war they were good intelligence from greece they were going to televisions from spain you know their dear poland from all of our friends to me and like to know what the right hand if you doing and i think that for the United States there is a strategic advantage to also knowing we are allies are and who are allies are engaging with because that might not always be very very open information and i think the allies sometimes make the subnational agreements to the best interests of themselves and it might not how it might not be in the best interests of the allegiance that they know what they want to throw this in before we change topics so one of the employees who was an electrical engineer worked there for 16 years he told the post you think you do good work and you make something secure and then you realize that you cheated these clowns you know and for those employees that no concept of this i think that that was truly dangerous and on ethical to put them in a situation like that little loan buy him a company overseas and keep it under wraps makes me wonder what companies they might own now especially in the you know we dont point the finger while way in places like that its just more of. The United States has blanketed its racism with impunity and equal opportunity anyone who looked spoke or worship differently from the dominant euro centric culture became a target native americans africanamericans Muslim Americans and japanese americans all took a hit 120000 japanese americans were held in internment camps during world war 2 their crime nothing more than their last names and heritage in true American Fashion let the apology tour begin this thursday nearly 78 years after the 1st internment camps were filled californias legislature is slated to approve a resolution formally apologizing to the victims r t correspondent tavenner has more on this story. Thursday will mark the 70th anniversary of president Franklin Roosevelt executive order 9066 which has been celebrated for years by japanese americans as a day of remembrance but this year california lawmakers are set to vote for a resolution that would formally apologize for the imprisonment of japanese americans during world war 2 and this resolution is expected to get approved and already has governor Gavin Newsoms and doris menow this bill h. R. 77. 00 was introduced by assemblyman alamo dodd sushi a democrat from california and coauthored this with 6 others and really paints a picture of californias anti Japanese Culture which goes way back in history and thats because this is resolution is not just about world war 2 during pearl harbor but it also mentions how the california alien land love in 1913 which made Land Ownership for japanese immigrants legal and also in 1943 joint resolution by the assembly that also States Senate called for the forfeit of u. S. Citizenship by residents who were also citizens of japan so basically took u. S. Citizenship away from japanese dual citizens now it also goes further by calling out u. S. Army general John Allen Devitt for telling california politicians shortly after the pearl harbor attack of that the japanese in this country have more arms and ammunition in their presumption that our own armed forces which was a convincing argument that rounded up more than 120000 japanese americans into camps during world war 2 and you know as some women im without food she said that he really pushed for the bill because he wanted california to lead by example and why. Our Nations Capital is hopelessly divided along party lines and president is putting immigrant families and children in cages in fact that was the exact comparison the Award Winning journalist and historian paul de rianne 0 made on an interview today in question take a listen and i think its interesting to know that dylan meyer who is the chairman of the director of the board that was responsible the authority that was responsible for building these camps when i ought to be head of the bureau of Indian Affairs had pioneered the terminations policy to try and recognition of native tribes and native for reservations and to disperse the native American Population into the cities of america causing tremendous tremendous problems i think you see also whats happening along the border with mexico is that native properties being condemned and taken over by the u. S. Military or to build their wall for the Trump Administration is another way you see that and this measure is also cosponsored with California Assembly republican leader maria wall drawn who also was inspired by the Migrant Children held in u. S. Custody over the last year lastly i want to mention that california has had a very dark and unjust history not just against japanese americans but also against Chinese Americans in fact in 1879 california passed a chinese exclusion act prohibiting chinese from working for the government or any Business Incorporated in california plus gave powers to local governments through move on wanted chinese citizens and although the 870. 00 naturalization i granted Citizenship Rights to African Americans it is specifically denied the same rights to the chinese for watching the hawks im sorry it happened. It was a tough story especially because it is it better late than never you know for california say look were sorry that we you know made a mistake and threw everybody in the camp. You know what this is really. It when we think about issues like this typically the federal government takes their notes from the states and what weve seen in california is the exact opposite when reagan in 1988 actually issued an apology for at the federal level and issued money to be spent on the families who actually were in the internment camps the ones that were still till a lot so its very interesting to me that california just thought about this today Ronald Reagan obviously is a californian it would have made more sense for california to have jumped on in 88 still late but not 2020 its its interesting too because i think the reason its important to look at stories like this is because it is happening right now where we dont want we wont pretend its not normal what do you think is happening along the border when you take people and put them in a confined space and separate mothers and children and families and all that that some term that is a concentration im sorry its a concentration of people and i think that this actually may be one of the linkages to why why the express interest has come up in california right now think that produced something that was very interesting when she talked about specifically why california was different because it wasnt the japanese americans were only in california or that they even had the largest concentration of japanese americans actually hawaii did at the time in hawaii did not did not go through the entire process to the extent that we saw in california they went above and beyond in terms of actually removing almost all of their japanese American Population and again these are people who were for the most part over 70 percent american citizens at that point you know you know these are people these were people who werent really a threat but again you know ok pro harbor happens in them what happens is we lose our minds dont think logically because we make decisions out of fear and patriotism which are too dangerous places to make decisions from throughout history youve never really seen a whole lot of good come from saying im going to make a quick decision about this group of people or these things like that because im scared and i love my country at home seen these america. Idiology occur decade after decade whenever there is a imposed threat or the thought of an imposed threat america has a habit of outing certain groups to operate typically those groups dont look like your average White American and they do it very well and they codified in law and over time these populations not only are a lot less trusting of the American Government as they shouldnt be one of the other interesting things is that it causes a lot more tumble down the road one of the major issues with this one was that the Census Bureau at the time actually illegally used its data in terms of its local the locations of a lot of these families their residences and were actually pushing that to Law Enforcement so the us Census Bureau was one of the reasons a lot of these folks got rounded up which is now why a lot of people are opting out of the process and only want to do the census but interesting interesting point all right you are going to break clark watchers dont forget to let us know what you think it proper to cover on our social media be sure to check out watching orks the podcast will build on spotify because everywhere you listen to your favorite or not so favorite podcast you could also start watching the hawks on demand through the brand new portable t. V. Smart phones google play and the Apple App Store by searching for a boat to be coming up my friends the burghers the verdict is airing on the u. S. Governments case against the 4 activists who occupied the Venezuelan Embassy last spring a member supertax fine joins us next to discuss state to. State. Their kind of good intentions which i think. Chris may be used to slip years ago. Simply evaporate to. Suit. Its unclear shuls the plight of. I 1st heard about wiki leaks. From leave helicopter fortune in iraq. I seem to down a single woman in the clinton us military who have never forgiven from court this guys a traitor and treasonous and he has broken every law United States illegally shoot some of us really historic to have. Independent journalist a guy with his puter exposing the serious lot of crimes and to a global audience. The idea of developing an anonymous digital dropbox and applying it to a Media Organization is because he hates that was the 1st. And didnt the tor interest right between would be for a short while will find a new room and one of the worlds most powerful news organizations seriousness and except for founder julian a song in the sun only in the uk and there was a great deal of jealous in the mainstream towards them for the faith though why wont it be more like all that you seem all seeing feces on the walls. Smile explicitly. We have Julian Assange in solitary confinement in the prison for terrorists a way to keep the house alive person. I dont want to see him die in the us prison. And i think thats what hes facing. All right welcome back from that a lovely break look for those of us whove been following the incredible story and court case of the 4 activists who occupied the Venezuelan Embassy last spring much to the chagrin and anger of not only those supporting and working with juan why dont his attempts to remove venezuelan president Nicolas Maduro from office but also his u. S. Backers here in the white house and state department and International Politics<\/a> and big business my friends information is king especially for intelligence agencies like the cia and the n. S. A. And its the cias ravenous thirst for intelligence and control no matter the cost and what lines are crossed that is at the heart of the recent revelations coming out of switzerland regarding the cold wars biggest manufacturer of encryption devices a joint investigation by the Washington Post<\/a> and german public broadcasters e. D. F. Has revealed that crypto a. G. T. The worlds leading manufacturer or crip to logical equipment during the cold war whose clients including included over 120. 00 governments around the world was a Front Company<\/a> owned by the United States<\/a> Central Intelligence<\/a> agency whoa discovered through a secret 2004 cia historical document and in a 2000 a oral history by german intelligence the operation was considered to be the intelligence coup of the century by taking over the manufacture of the devices this allowed the cia and n. S. A. To rig the crypto agees products so they could easily break the codes and have access to a clients encrypted messages and guess what the cia wasnt just some silent donor either according to the post unbent nouns to most employees except executives at the highest levels the agency controlled nearly every aspect of kryptos operations presiding residing with their german partners over hiring decisions designing its technology sabotaging its algorithms and directing its sales targets the cias own Historical Documents<\/a> even bragged theyve been brave about the extent of the in the ugliness involved saying quote foreign governments were paying good money to the us and western germany for the privilege of having their most secret Communications Read<\/a> by at least 2 and possibly as many as 5 or 6 foreign countries. So if the cia only top and Corruption Company<\/a> in the world up until 2018 it makes you wonder what other companies do they secretly have their hands in and that my friends is why we are always watching the hawks. You warning. On a cd you st you want to. Do so you wish to see the crisis joyce just state and see rolls royce gracie suggests least systemic deception is to late show which would be some real. World government to watch it with. And i will mr cross a major there is incredible wow look at 3rd i mean from the cold war all the way up into 2002 in the cia along with german intelligence essentially ran the biggest and Corruption Company<\/a> in the world giving them access to tons of people of governments foreign governments and businesses and banks. Secret messages that they encrypted this is incredible it is incredible but not surprising i think of this on the vein of the sky is going to always be blue the suns going to always come up in the morning and go down in the evening and stars are always going to be in the galaxies and with all of that were always going to have a cia that gets information by whatever means necessary and i feel like this is par for the course for what the cia is designed to do at the end of the day we have a lot of we have a lot of National International<\/a> interest and when it comes to the cia i dont think that there is in there is an international or subnational act or organization that they feel is off limits and its impossible to have one that is purely that is purely nonnegotiable and one that will not take guns we know this is storage lee that the cia has been known to do pass through has been known to acknowledge that while later on that they have given money to certain entities but also it is very hard to be the one who is in isolation its within. Field i think that for the cia it is all about getting the human intelligence it is all about getting the Geospatial Intelligence<\/a> it is about making sure that you have all the most up to date technology but its also about knowing how to get into places that you normally would not be able to get into and i think they do this sometimes in very shadowy ways but this is not surprising its not surprising but do you think it crosses the line though because when you look at it they no one knew they own the company youve got employees there who are going out selling products for the centrally tainted products on one hand theyve sold like bad or damaged products that we couldnt give those foreign governments the cryptology technology or their products that will allow us to easily hack into them is that dangerous because like there was one employee that was kidnapped by iran during this period and they were questioning him to see if he was a traitor or not you know but these employees have no idea theyre working for an Intelligence Company<\/a> doing this that puts people in danger to them it does post certain levels of difficulties and i think that thats a very thats a very strong point to bring up i think that its also important to acknowledge that again the cia through its processes takes in takes high level risks and those who are associated with it when you come on you know that this is supposed to be of the most in secrecy but also that there are several things that could be detrimental to happen to you but also those around you should any of this information week i think that for the cia and for us to maintain the strength that we have as a nation in terms of foreign intelligence there are certain measures that have to be taken that arent necessarily things that most people would consider above board. And thats where well disagree because i dont believe we should i dont i dont believe that were going to hold ourselves to a level of accountability in the level of look at how great we are look at how free we are that we should be allowing our cia to go secretly by major businesses around the world and then act as like oh no we dont but its basically a Front Company<\/a> for them so i strongly disagree with that because to me thats like i get you want to get intelligence i understand. But there also good intelligence from people who are who are supposedly our allies it wasnt just them going after you know russia and china during the cold war they were good intelligence from greece they were going to televisions from spain you know their dear poland from all of our friends to me and like to know what the right hand if you doing and i think that for the United States<\/a> there is a strategic advantage to also knowing we are allies are and who are allies are engaging with because that might not always be very very open information and i think the allies sometimes make the subnational agreements to the best interests of themselves and it might not how it might not be in the best interests of the allegiance that they know what they want to throw this in before we change topics so one of the employees who was an electrical engineer worked there for 16 years he told the post you think you do good work and you make something secure and then you realize that you cheated these clowns you know and for those employees that no concept of this i think that that was truly dangerous and on ethical to put them in a situation like that little loan buy him a company overseas and keep it under wraps makes me wonder what companies they might own now especially in the you know we dont point the finger while way in places like that its just more of. The United States<\/a> has blanketed its racism with impunity and equal opportunity anyone who looked spoke or worship differently from the dominant euro centric culture became a target native americans africanamericans Muslim Americans<\/a> and japanese americans all took a hit 120000 japanese americans were held in internment camps during world war 2 their crime nothing more than their last names and heritage in true American Fashion<\/a> let the apology tour begin this thursday nearly 78 years after the 1st internment camps were filled californias legislature is slated to approve a resolution formally apologizing to the victims r t correspondent tavenner has more on this story. Thursday will mark the 70th anniversary of president Franklin Roosevelt<\/a> executive order 9066 which has been celebrated for years by japanese americans as a day of remembrance but this year california lawmakers are set to vote for a resolution that would formally apologize for the imprisonment of japanese americans during world war 2 and this resolution is expected to get approved and already has governor Gavin Newsoms<\/a> and doris menow this bill h. R. 77. 00 was introduced by assemblyman alamo dodd sushi a democrat from california and coauthored this with 6 others and really paints a picture of californias anti Japanese Culture<\/a> which goes way back in history and thats because this is resolution is not just about world war 2 during pearl harbor but it also mentions how the california alien land love in 1913 which made Land Ownership<\/a> for japanese immigrants legal and also in 1943 joint resolution by the assembly that also States Senate<\/a> called for the forfeit of u. S. Citizenship by residents who were also citizens of japan so basically took u. S. Citizenship away from japanese dual citizens now it also goes further by calling out u. S. Army general John Allen Devitt<\/a> for telling california politicians shortly after the pearl harbor attack of that the japanese in this country have more arms and ammunition in their presumption that our own armed forces which was a convincing argument that rounded up more than 120000 japanese americans into camps during world war 2 and you know as some women im without food she said that he really pushed for the bill because he wanted california to lead by example and why. Our Nations Capital<\/a> is hopelessly divided along party lines and president is putting immigrant families and children in cages in fact that was the exact comparison the Award Winning<\/a> journalist and historian paul de rianne 0 made on an interview today in question take a listen and i think its interesting to know that dylan meyer who is the chairman of the director of the board that was responsible the authority that was responsible for building these camps when i ought to be head of the bureau of Indian Affairs<\/a> had pioneered the terminations policy to try and recognition of native tribes and native for reservations and to disperse the native American Population<\/a> into the cities of america causing tremendous tremendous problems i think you see also whats happening along the border with mexico is that native properties being condemned and taken over by the u. S. Military or to build their wall for the Trump Administration<\/a> is another way you see that and this measure is also cosponsored with California Assembly<\/a> republican leader maria wall drawn who also was inspired by the Migrant Children<\/a> held in u. S. Custody over the last year lastly i want to mention that california has had a very dark and unjust history not just against japanese americans but also against Chinese Americans<\/a> in fact in 1879 california passed a chinese exclusion act prohibiting chinese from working for the government or any Business Incorporated<\/a> in california plus gave powers to local governments through move on wanted chinese citizens and although the 870. 00 naturalization i granted Citizenship Rights<\/a> to African Americans<\/a> it is specifically denied the same rights to the chinese for watching the hawks im sorry it happened. It was a tough story especially because it is it better late than never you know for california say look were sorry that we you know made a mistake and threw everybody in the camp. You know what this is really. It when we think about issues like this typically the federal government takes their notes from the states and what weve seen in california is the exact opposite when reagan in 1988 actually issued an apology for at the federal level and issued money to be spent on the families who actually were in the internment camps the ones that were still till a lot so its very interesting to me that california just thought about this today Ronald Reagan<\/a> obviously is a californian it would have made more sense for california to have jumped on in 88 still late but not 2020 its its interesting too because i think the reason its important to look at stories like this is because it is happening right now where we dont want we wont pretend its not normal what do you think is happening along the border when you take people and put them in a confined space and separate mothers and children and families and all that that some term that is a concentration im sorry its a concentration of people and i think that this actually may be one of the linkages to why why the express interest has come up in california right now think that produced something that was very interesting when she talked about specifically why california was different because it wasnt the japanese americans were only in california or that they even had the largest concentration of japanese americans actually hawaii did at the time in hawaii did not did not go through the entire process to the extent that we saw in california they went above and beyond in terms of actually removing almost all of their japanese American Population<\/a> and again these are people who were for the most part over 70 percent american citizens at that point you know you know these are people these were people who werent really a threat but again you know ok pro harbor happens in them what happens is we lose our minds dont think logically because we make decisions out of fear and patriotism which are too dangerous places to make decisions from throughout history youve never really seen a whole lot of good come from saying im going to make a quick decision about this group of people or these things like that because im scared and i love my country at home seen these america. Idiology occur decade after decade whenever there is a imposed threat or the thought of an imposed threat america has a habit of outing certain groups to operate typically those groups dont look like your average White American<\/a> and they do it very well and they codified in law and over time these populations not only are a lot less trusting of the American Government<\/a> as they shouldnt be one of the other interesting things is that it causes a lot more tumble down the road one of the major issues with this one was that the Census Bureau<\/a> at the time actually illegally used its data in terms of its local the locations of a lot of these families their residences and were actually pushing that to Law Enforcement<\/a> so the us Census Bureau<\/a> was one of the reasons a lot of these folks got rounded up which is now why a lot of people are opting out of the process and only want to do the census but interesting interesting point all right you are going to break clark watchers dont forget to let us know what you think it proper to cover on our social media be sure to check out watching orks the podcast will build on spotify because everywhere you listen to your favorite or not so favorite podcast you could also start watching the hawks on demand through the brand new portable t. V. Smart phones google play and the Apple App Store<\/a> by searching for a boat to be coming up my friends the burghers the verdict is airing on the u. S. Governments case against the 4 activists who occupied the Venezuelan Embassy<\/a> last spring a member supertax fine joins us next to discuss state to. State. Their kind of good intentions which i think. Chris may be used to slip years ago. Simply evaporate to. Suit. Its unclear shuls the plight of. I 1st heard about wiki leaks. From leave helicopter fortune in iraq. I seem to down a single woman in the clinton us military who have never forgiven from court this guys a traitor and treasonous and he has broken every law United States<\/a> illegally shoot some of us really historic to have. Independent journalist a guy with his puter exposing the serious lot of crimes and to a global audience. The idea of developing an anonymous digital dropbox and applying it to a Media Organization<\/a> is because he hates that was the 1st. And didnt the tor interest right between would be for a short while will find a new room and one of the worlds most powerful news organizations seriousness and except for founder julian a song in the sun only in the uk and there was a great deal of jealous in the mainstream towards them for the faith though why wont it be more like all that you seem all seeing feces on the walls. Smile explicitly. We have Julian Assange<\/a> in solitary confinement in the prison for terrorists a way to keep the house alive person. I dont want to see him die in the us prison. And i think thats what hes facing. All right welcome back from that a lovely break look for those of us whove been following the incredible story and court case of the 4 activists who occupied the Venezuelan Embassy<\/a> last spring much to the chagrin and anger of not only those supporting and working with juan why dont his attempts to remove venezuelan president Nicolas Maduro<\/a> from office but also his u. S. Backers here in the white house and state department and Law Enforcement<\/a> and it goes on well the verdict has come in and it ended in a mistrial yes federal judge beryl how announced a mistrial after the jury could not reach a verdict on the case against the 4 selfproclaimed Embassy Protectors<\/a> adrian pyne Kevin Zeese Margaret<\/a> flowers and david paul who occupied the embassy under the permission of the venezuelan government for more than 30 days last april before being forcibly removed last may by u. S. Law enforcement the poor were charged with knowingly and willfully obstructing resisting in interfering with a federal Law Enforcement<\/a> agent gauged in the performance of a protective functions authorized under section 37 of the state departments basic dohertys act of 956 im sure were all familiar with that act the penalties for that charge are right over there based were one year in prison and up to 100000. 00 in fines that was a piece this mistrial comes despite many roadblocks rulings and legal hurdles thrown out before activists by both the judge and prosecutors on the case joining us now to discuss the trial the hardships and what comes next is Embassy Protector<\/a> edge and finally doing pleasure to have you back on the show. So i got to start mass mistrial how do you feel after seeing your case and in the mistrial and what is this murder verdict mean for you and for those who were supporting your cause and what got you there in the 1st place sure well i mean of course we were delighted with this outcome because given. The way that the. Room was rigged against it was unlikely that the jury would have been able to come to a verdict of innocence because they were not permitted to hear most of the facts in going into the case so we were really glad that. Some of the jurors really sort of saw through the scale on the part of the government the lies and were willing to hold out. That you know were willing to say yeah theres some doubt here theres some reasonable doubt but the mistrial means for us obviously that this iteration of the case is over but the government can still decide to start all over again and so we are facing that possibility we have a hearing believe on the 28th and so well see what the government plans to do at that point. But will you remain innocent as we always have been right now. From your perch watching this was an expeditious 4 day process did you have any inkling during it that it was going to end in a mistrial you know my attorneys told us that you cant try to read the tea leaves. Youre always wrong and yeah i mean we had no idea one inclination that we got was that 1st of all that it was a really smart jury they were asking really good questions they were paying very close attention to all of the flaws in the governments case and to our own attorneys arguments and so those questions gave us hope because we really we saw that they were taking it seriously and that they were taking their duties as jurors seriously and then you know the fact that they took longer than presenting the case took it self to deliberate also gave us another inkling that something was going on there so that you know really. It was we were we were prepared for the wares because thats really what the government has set up for us they have prevented us from i mean like i mentioned last time i was here the trial the court room was the fantasy world where one guy doe is president of venezuela that reality exists nowhere else in the world except for that courtroom and so and not being able to explain to jurors who were very confused about why we were inquiring glyde i was embassy you know really made it more difficult for them and that was because of a lot of the hurdles that were kind of placed before you and your defense team you know you went in with the defense of look you know the. Venezuelan government asked us to be there we had permission from them to be there essentially you know what do you feel were the most difficult of those hurdles i mean i know the judge at one point especially made the ruling that like donald trump can just decide whoever gets to be president of whatever country legally here and thats what the law will recognize here but if he says daffy duck is suddenly the Prime Minister<\/a> of england. Our law has to go by we learned in the process of the case is that that is in fact a legal precedent so it its not its not a law thats like a statute but it is legal precedent says that donald trump can designate making mouses the president of france and that the courts cannot contest that and so that was really the law that defined the court room scenario that we were in and we were not able to speak a word of the fact that that was a fiction so given that fact given how constrained our trial was we were really really grateful that the jurors saw through all the lies postmistress where do we go from here do you think that the u. S. Is going to take this case up again. Well i mean it really we have no idea where hoping they dont obviously its a tremendous waste of u. S. Taxpayer dollars to i mean this was a lot of resources went in to this case on the part of the trump government and you know they were really trying to make an example of us and those are wasted u. S. Taxpayer Dollar Research<\/a> says you know just like theres millions of dollars that are being spent to prop up this puppet would be dictator our way food scare resources you know its time for our money to go to to better causes and for the government to stop prosecuting people who are in fact fighting for social justice and against us empire and to me its thats what gives me a lot about this case and i was so happy just going to see the mistress at the end of the day whether whether you are against the cause youre fighting for for the cause that youre fighting for at the end of the day youre practicing your 1st amendment rights. You know thats what really you were doing at the end of the day when you strip Everything Else<\/a> away and all of the other stuff youre in there saying i disagree with my countrys policies regarding this and im going to express that is not really and to me that goes right against the 1st amendment against the 1st amendment but also we were there by International Law<\/a> we were there completely legally we had requested and received permission from the venezuelan gov or the elected venezuelan government to be there its foreign soil it was illegal of the United States<\/a> of the state department to break the Vienna Convention<\/a> and enter the embassy and arrest us and causing serious damage to the property which remains empty to this day trash collecting around it wraps running in and out i mean this is supposedly the embassy the whole operation was to give it back to go i dont know who had never to vecchio his quote unquote ambassador who had never had it in the 1st place but they never went back and then after they were away and everybody photo op and then they havent returned the boarded up i mean and this is this was the state department liberating the Venezuelan Embassy<\/a> in fact it was a coup it was the u. S. Directly you know with the like stormtrooper operation taking over venezuelan territory maybe not to say that was truly fascinating i thank you very much for coming on and definitely keep us updated with what happens with the case and good luck moving forward thank you so much dr. The funny thing about conspiracy theories is they can be exhilarating along the same and cultural phenomenon completely and utterly. Such is the case with the Bermuda Triangle<\/a> theory the 925 disappearance of the s. S. Catastrophe whose ship wreck claimed the lives of 32 people created many theories over time from go ships and pirates to the lost city of atlantis but none permeated more than the Bermuda Triangle<\/a> theory with the recent vessel discovery this theory was the bond as the bolt carrier never actually made it to the van but florida appears to be the site of the tragic devastation and the remains of the ship. 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I cant show you my face but im going to teach you must story in 9093 this man was sentenced to death. They could charged with capital murder even though he didnt have the gun didnt pull the trigger didnt intend to kill anybody imagine living in your bathroom for the week with the scent of a 23. 00. I dont doubt that he deserved to be. Confined within 4 gray walls hed find so using it. To help him to leave defense room. French politicians who granted political asylum to a russian artist are now calling for him to be deported and also his arrest over an incident that brought down a key ally of president macleod. Russias foreign minister accuses the us of openly creating conditions to deploy short and Medium Range Missiles<\/a> in view of and asia. An advisor to the u. K. Government resigns after a backlash over his extreme views on greys and eugenics. 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