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RT Going Underground July 13, 2024

Phosphorus against children johnson said he has raised human rights with his nato partner we raised our concerns about the operation in Northern Syria with the turkish government be present earlier on several times and. We saw her lead to poor or any abuse of human rights but turkey is of course very much on britains side in the country boned by his former etonian friend David Cameron and tomorrow chancellor Angela Merkel has a Conference Following on from Vladimir Putins in moscow to seek peace in what was once africas richest because its a country joining me now via skype from germany the country that will host tomorrows critical libya talks is the former spokesperson for more moderate afi. Bring him thanks so much of a coming back on the shows a negotiated some kind of cease fire not sure whether its holding between turkey supported by britain and the former cia asset general after all what do you. Expect from talks in berlin to more its extremely easy to get lost in the details of the libyan crisis and this is really afshin a part of the game the imperialist west has been playing for decades and decades and the reason europe interview since chaos into libya and then what it does its many agents this chaos for years and years to come sometimes by military means sometimes by political means conferences negotiations economic sanctions you end the crees European Union unfoldment all of this is to keep the country and the control so they can rock its National Wealth and control its political system and prevent more importantly its population from rising up and making sure that the country is sovereign and independent from foreign influence the berlin conference is just another step in this that action ok the new good guys and bad guys is the Corporate Media or love so much is it your understand the ceasefire at least is holding in libya there are reports of some Turkish Backed jna thats the un mandated soldiers dying and have you been invited to the berlin government has saved every bit invited to the berlin government from the outside they claim that they are inviting everyone the reason that they imposed a ceasefire specially a from tech aside is because they understood that the libyan army was about to capture chipper now those leading the libyan army where previous cia us as you say but the green the resistance of libya has been using the libyan army as a fake to move forward and got antique. Level of sovereignty and independence for their country they can with this ceasefire to save the islamist militias and the socalled government of National Accord that they imposed upon the libyan people people in 2014 so it is the entire International Community that is against the libyan people ugly and actually i mean general after being a former cia asset are you saying that this coverage has been hastily can read because the government of National Accord was about to lose all power and is mandated by all the Security Council members 3rd in china including russia let alone britain and the United States this is something that the west does all the time they change the role its they are assigned roles between different parties in any conflict germany was you know one of the better countries of europe in 2011 and she wasnt involved heavily in the poem by argument of libya and even objected to the fait act of war and proposed a peaceful road for negotiation and thats the reason the very reason germany has been chosen because the other european powers have been in jeet morally bankrupt in libya completely and utterly that no initiative can come from france italy or britain let alone the states of course take it as well because of its cultural religious and historical links to libya was chosen and appointed by its european allies to manage chaos jointly with gen many for the next few years they always change the asia they change the parties that play the parts but the core of the matter is the same keep libya politically weak and the control. All of the west keep probing the National Wealth make sure that the libyan population does not rise up to gain libya back and make it independent and strong and of course as you know what she claims they need to talk about democracy elections negotiations cease fires and they do it very well with newspapers media with expands intellectuals and we are waiting for this man not to before the game but that was ok but ok if half her is backed by paris abu dhabi cairo riyadh france obviously also backing the g. N. A. T. Trump criticizing a turkish agreement over oil between. Government and National Accord government saying it was unhelpful or not to or that means trump is going to come to the rescue what is the green resistance there has been as you just mentioned the media intellectuals and the rest of it it is not mentioned in the context of libya inside libya all libyans are aware of korean persistence we are everywhere we are there many we are the majority even our any inside the country admit to that and actually they have been for years not saying it publicly they know any sure political such of any transparent truly genuine democratic system will lead to libya being green again i agree its not does not mean that we are going to own it all government for ourselves it means we are going to liberate it from the foreign and because it is an International Pitch up against the green resistance we decided many of us to enjoy in the vacant advantage which is the libyan army the libyan army is composed maybe more than 80 percent of officers and soldiers of the green and the west knows that that. And they dont want libya true you know with the doing of the green systems to go back to being independent and so friendly and therefore go back to the owner cant that faced as and theres of liberation of uniting of uniting the arab world opposing computer ism and then tainting the National Wealth development independent Economic Development from the capitalist system that doesnt sound like anytime soon general have said he has no problem with safe gadhafi running for president do we know where the saved obvious even alive let alone the fact is not being invited to tomorrows berlin conference and do you fear that given trumps recent drone assassinations of iranian general silly money that they could take safe good effie out of his alive no there is no doubt we are a straight for safes safety safe it is them is is a libyan citizen and he is a leader and he is loved by and maisha who potion of the libyan population he has a genuine Political Program and project for the country but no one from outside if you can of course wants to listen to him because they know his faults is very dangerous to the agenda of the west a look see if its there and his followers have been saying quite years now that they dont talk to take revenge against anyone they dont want to conflict they want an independent peaceful and democratic libya and not just talk we have a fair a particular definite written down program for all of this week or for every single european parts political current to come together in a debian city not embellish and does this our vision of the African Union because we are african and without any foreign participation no one. Is accepting because they you know whether this would be a genuine libyan decision with pete to something that the west does not want thats what they call to berlin they know that she barely has a very that if you take ship and ask them how theyre going to lean 880. 00 for the conference in which they defy get a freak out between european powers divided african migrants and african wealth now you come to berlin 2020 its the same game being played for centuries and im not buying it ok well just finally and briefly does it matter if general haftar signs an agreement then but live or is the question itself meaningless and do you think hes about to take tripoli regardless we are challenging france because all what i like half there is everybody particularly one house to came under the cia an American Army protection in 2011 we will not forget that he claims now that he is seeking libyas independence and and thats why we are working under hes you know in the libyan army but if he cites anything kimberlin if you cause against libyans and libyans so prince and libyas independence im free to make no mistake we will walk no more but have to and thousands and thousands of soldiers and also service will go out of their way to oppose such an agreement and the whole equation of the libyan political situation would be changed radically theres a brant thank you thank you option after the break as shin fein lobbies in washington how much will it really cost london to reinstate local governments in Northern Ireland we speak to the parties responsible for reconvening stormont political coming up about to going underground. Americas built a prison called the world in its the prison its the runs the prison and the cost of building a prison is 0 because its all based on everyone in the world is still willing to accept dollars trade in dollars clear through the new york fed and worship the u. S. Dollar wherever you go your spine a. T. M. Thing Country Stores the local currency and dollar for dollar is god no matter what religion you say you are around the world the fact is you pray to the u. S. Dollar every day. Welcome back well after 3 years the rangers i did just switch the lights back on in stormont having reached a power sharing agreement but how fragile is it with sums of money differing in the billions and then h. S. Nurses on strike the path to looks anything but certain joining me now its in vain m. P. For me the front see my lawyer friends thanks for coming back on so your shin frame finance minister there instrument corner murphy saying johnsons money falls well short of his promises what do you make of how. Strong promises from both the secular state on the 2 governments on their commitments to financially support the new examples up and running in particular to deal with the north or strike on the party so it is very important that the 2 governments live up to the promises they were making on the morning that they were through and how much money are we talking about well not of money is not silly defined because the executive is only up and running theyre still trying to find exactly what is required to do it what would basically would we have one is the British Government did give an agreement that they would meet the party issues around the nurses pay but also what we want to move into is the 3 year sakal of budgetary lane instead of what we will work. On of a one year cycle that needs to be an ongoing commitment just because you can then turn the lights off instrument and for another 3 years once youve got the commitment for the budget for 3 years you know what we want is the we want this to walk we want the executive to have the resources to make it work unless they were for george or there we found in the past though the British Government when the conservative quinta government and the Irish Government both they basically said with us its south of us a sort of this is not a settlement the days are gone for the d. V. D. When it could ask a 1000000000 pounds for Parliamentary Support to keep a british Prime Minister in power although he was going to agree and basically jr in a 2nd he was talking about billions before the election of course the parliamentary arithmetic is different but one economist doctor has been bernie claims it will take 5000000000 pounds to get strawman running probably up to 3 years of no government. With a sturdy measures of the control to govern the past who do it withdrawing money from the assembly and that actually brought part of the dont fall apart because people are active found to find wears a back to make and walk back to buy of what this family can deliver dont have a number the not a number of this point in time probably they should have a number of the negotiating with boards around the fact was that the British Government hold all the figures they hold all the departments at this point in time what were doing is the transition over and what were saying is that the needs of the proper resources there are that the government were promising that that needs to be fulfilled do you think your partys over the general election because of the austerity i mean the Health Service you mentioned it was a strike in the past 24 hours coordinated action 41 percent of inpatient waiting times exceed 52. 00 weeks in england in wales not one region exceeded one percent i mean the Health Service in just seems unbelievable and when it comes to austerity more than 200. 00 people dead over a period of 18 months homeless deaths well i think the situation is that the Health Service was. Theyve been undermined completely the resources wont be put end to make it happen and make a book so what we need is the pay party to act to be really established and to ensure that nurses actually have the also not in numbers the staffing numbers need to be increased to make the hospital to be able to walk and what we have faith in the past was that that money would have been really withdrawn from the assembly and was being withdrawn from the nurses pay a committee of the members was on the will you shut down stormont again was not a bit off short and earnest on what i think it with the deal yet but if the resource is not there then base what were seeing this storm encounter theyre for. Ok is that because youve got the irish torch in schools element in. Place as regards the coming back to stormont despite the fact that prosecution of u. K. Soldiers during the troubles seems very much up in the air because the people talking in westminster about that know happening well i think what we have to separate the 2 issues a language issue is operator and what we have now though is a language and strained into the norden and act not sets aside the Old Established legislation which they say discriminated against in which a speaker of the language in general on the issue of justice for those who actually have committed wrongdoing we actually need to ensure that british soldier or anyone else do not escaped the right track to stand up and to be charged if they are guilty of offenses that record joined the troubles your colleague john vinu can is in washington talking to members of congress about irish issues his father of course was murdered in suspicious circumstances given what is interview on our you tube channel do you think he get american support for the prosecution of british soldiers we know the Boris Johnson listens to the americans who were born in america well i think we do need to get the support of the Irish Government to the American Government and the European Union to ensure that the good friday agreement and all the aspects of the good friday agreement are implemented the speaker has already said that listen to trade and thats one of the things the jones talking about is that if there is any infringement on the good friday agreement then that the americans wont be saying no to any trade deals with the British Government ok but do you think all enforced is done more for the irish unification than the ira what i think bracks is hoarded. Bracks it has actually done not what we have now is the opportunity for the irish people to come together within the European Union of the whole island. Try to try and build the irish unity within that and i think theres a growing support for that right across the board people who never were thinking about irish and deplore are no thinking about it those who actually feel that theyre being infringed by the loss of the commitments of the European Union you think nigel farage for that well i said to his place part with or not ok well the weve got an interview on monday with a guy called willie call in new used to work for you is a selfconfessed m i 5 spy he makes some extraordinary allegations in his new book would you make a repeated one in 4 of the ira were one point u. K. Intelligence and to that there were members of m i 5 who sort of united i would you make of well i think you always take the role of really had within and he said that he was such a spy and i think when you read who could out there and what his role was it was fake news that he was presenting one fact reports that was presented back to the British Government if you do not particularly and i think what we read now who is one is he selling a book but secondly it is a continue leeson about back news after a long period of time whenever when he was long out of vienna on a right of the republicans the secret diary entry that you do training on the side certainly not i think you know if you go back to those sort of bad old days whenever that was the main question the active and i think it is important that we do recognise her in an entirely new situation we need to move on france i mean like thank you thank you. Well the piece says they will restore faith in politics at stormont but for how much joining me now is g. O. P. M. P. Even more than just in paisley thanks so much in for coming back on the show so your reaction to the restoration of ulster power sharing given finance minister a column of us this of france of lloyd just now says that johnsons money falls way short of what was promised to move the well of the. Very important up north

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