Say peace loving after after the attack so its the iranians feel its the other way around but more importantly i think the iranians believe that the americans have made probably the biggest mistake. That theyve made among the many mistakes that theyve made over the past decade and that is that theyve turned the iraqi people against the United States theyve turned the iranian people against the United States and theyve united iran in iraq in a way which we havent seen before you know chris youre in iraq war veteran i mean talk about that because thats essentially whats happened and if you look at whats coming out of the pentagon and other places of power in washington d. C. What where does democracy actually stand now in iraq because it was invaded under the auspices to bring democracy to iraq now they have a parliament in the form of the Parliament Says thats time to go home but washington says on not so fast so what is the value of the democracy that was forced upon the iraqi people in 2003 go ahead chris. Peter you know if i could figure all that out id be a genius because it has been on unsolvable since world war one i think this all goes back to sykes peacoat treaty and world war one the middle east has been a carved up in so many power structures and its never fundamentally been able to come to a resting place where theres been able to be harmony throughout these governments and i would agree with you that it is just completely difficult to have this kind of long term intervention at this point i would i would certainly agree limiting the u. S. Footprint but the problem is 2 things one you know that resolution is obviously nonbinding its sort of a sentiment from the legislature weve still got reality on the ground of being able to do things and i think the u. S. Doesnt why. To have. You know wong term iranian influence whether a certain extent sam would have you something i would also dispute but isnt that really up to the iraqi people i mean why should someone sitting in washington d. C. Determine what kind of friendships a foreign country a sovereign country like iraq should have it seems very heavy handed and i dont see how it adds to American Foreign policy interests go ahead well i think youre you are right i mean the fact is that theyve already had their opportunity i mean they would even fight for themselves and with the Iraqi Defense forces we left in place which is i think the low point of the war but i wouldnt what i would push back a little bit from my colleague is this idea of of. You know this successful iranian strike you hit none of us we just wiped out knocked out one of your key officers i dont think i dont think iran actually really wants to strike back i think theyre worried about the same sions i think that this is all really about the economy and i think President Trump has learned thats really where the real war is being able to take their economy and theyre feeling that so i dont think iran actually wants to strike back i think they want to do 2 things save face and avoid sanctions ok ali lets go to you in sydney here what has been accomplished here i mean professor marandi did bring up a good point is that actually iran was able to show its strategic flexibility and strengths within the region here that is a very strong message and they launch the missiles from iran it wasnt from a proxy so they were actually sending a very clear signal and it is the signal is its time for Foreign Military to leave the middle east go ahead ali and sit me. Yeah before i answer the question just how me to respond to what your previous guest said iran wants to avoid inspections impact was a big priority for iraq i think that iraq would have went to edit made a deal with a drunken ministration trump wanted to meet with president rouhani and general certainly and president rouhani it was the one who reject it so i think that notion iraq just lost already but so sanctions it has been trying to teach them now regarding your question. Here on yes this is the 1st time we see iran actually responding to american bases and announcing it to easily revolutionary guards actually announce even though they were the ones who launched this attack so it appears that we have been indeed entered a new phase in the american iranian confrontation i also have to heard that if susan just about iran bush the us here many. Nonstate actors who will be shot allied with iran that it will also could respond and retaliate example of any or so ation groups like hezbollah in lebanon like the whole the movement indeed like the mobilization of forces in iraq if these planes fit him. Generous about money was indeed an icon and striking so that money really there was something which with which had a very big effect on them and soon addition to iranian retaliation its very possible that iran isnt how i aspire to respond until all of irans nonstate to act alone and be ready and allies across the actors which i mentioned has a lot of who did 6 exceptional they feel will prove themselves to be a force to be reckoned with on a military scale ok lets go back to trying professor marandi asylum on the i mean he was he was murdered and hes been mourned but his deputy. Stepped in immediately so what is really happened how is the needle been moved by taking out quote unquote this. Murderous monster whatever you want to say and c. N. N. And all of that because that the policy doesnt change i mean the rhetoric you know in the bluster that you that last for what a few news cycles but were still back where we were ok i mean thats why i think the assassination was is senseless ok because it doesnt affect policy go ahead moment. Well a couple of myths have been destroyed the in popularity of this samik republic of iran at home through the enormous funeral between 5 to 7000000 people participated in teheran alone even the western media that it was extraordinary so it shows the strength of the jet m. S. E. And the and the capability and the anger of the the people of iran and this tomic republic of iran the myth of iraqis hating iran and hating the Popular Mobilization force because the funerals that were held in iraq are also extraordinary the size the magnitude in the different cities it showed that the iraqis and the iranians were actually both. Very respectful for one another the funerals in iraq were for the iranians and the funerals in iran were for the iraqis. As well and then contrary to what your guest in the United States says the americans didnt achieve anything they murdered 2 war heroes at the iraqi at the back the International Airport and the iranian commander the iraq the iraqi Prime Minister said he was going to meet me at 8 am he was scheduled to meet him to discuss a letter that the saudis had given because the iraqi Prime Minister wanted to mediate and he was going to give the iranian response. And the iraqi Prime Minister said that trump knew about it and he welcomed it so this shows the degree of deception that comes out of washington so murdering war heroes in another country against the will of that country in complete disregard of the government the Prime Minister and International Law and sovereignty is not anything to be proud about or to gloat about or to to say you know to even discuss in public its something to be ashamed of ok let me let me theyre going i know lets go to chris is go to chris i want to man hey i just one sentence a guy had one sentence go ahead go ahead. Its i just wanted to say on the other hand the iranian missiles all. Were hit their targets and they destroyed buildings look at the satellite pictures they destroyed hangars and everything inside them but they specifically targeted the hangars and buildings that were full of drones and helicopters and equipment and they didnt target the barracks where the american soldiers were sleeping in so the americans tried to murder you iranians at the International Airport but the iranians tried to destroy american he quit meant inside us be ok lets go to which side as he may lets go to me go to chris chris go ahead before we go to the break here respond go ahead chris. I mean ive had my fair share of america bashing for the day peter i mean look heres the deal he was a combat casualty he wasnt murdered and see ive had some experience at war were a ran its been fun funding and pushing out these proxies to blow a soldiers eyes out and legs off so do i feel bad that he died absolutely not i might even have a beer later and cheers to it and the fact the matter is this or in is that more people died at that funeral i mean we could talk all day about the barbera barbarism in iran i dont think wed have enough time so i just have to push back on this america bashing were on with you peter i would love to get out of there ok were going to were going to talk about that and theyre still going to talk about that in the 2nd half of the program here gentlemen were going to be murdered were going to a short break gentlemen it is after that break well continue our discussion on the u. S. Around conflicts stayed with our. Liz. Lead. Live. Leg. Length. Live. 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Ok lets go to ali in sydney we have a gordian knot in front of us and we have to cut it somehow in the gordian knot is the following donald trump ran as as a candidate in 2016 to end these endless wars ok we bring the troops home now we have a situation weve got in a very bizarre way and tragic way but weve got into a situation. Where he can have his cake and eat it too the troops can come home theyre not wanted in iraq any longer and why doesnt he embrace it its his Campaign Promise for Goodness Sake and we know the majority of veterans that fought in those wars in that part of the world thought the wars were useless fruitless and in a waste of time and a new and theres also an antiwar sentiment across the political spectrum this is an opportunity why doesnt he grasp it go ahead ali. And i would have to comment on what chris said regarding ghost story money and the fact that sort of money was a casualty of all this was an operation carried out in warfare this was a diplomatic will assess that have so they man he is the is a member of the or as a member of the senate or house of the military this is like counting the joint chiefs of the country so lets not thing to do with a casualty of war and its unfortunate and your guest says that you know he was so grateful as able to have them here its up to the killing of so many when so many played a pivotal role in defeating isis whether it be a hero in syria or isis which is the most notorious terrorist group in the world now in history your question i think that the whole trauma has given a lot of ground if you would like to the neo conservative. If for there was you know he was trying to confront the neo cons trying to confront the oregon washington but he appears to have succumbed to certain pressures and regarding to secession attempts it i think. In this particular issue trump respond to the issues or listen to the own party or might point out specifically i think that the assassinations the real mind behind the brains behind this operation was like going to iowa want to comply it was an evangelical he why do you logically and sirhan is supposed to be. Its real at the same time trying also because many music is ready our audience we have certain not figures who will support him in his Campaign Donors like children idelson well i think thats the angle from which we could look at it but you know i have to also imprecise that arent think that the ascension of so many is going to any broader strategy or i think that it just turns from pure hatred from certain american cigarettes towards iraq the same time. It stems from the ongoing american you dont juggle supports it israel well it let me go back to chris because i cut him off because we had to go to a hard break here chris you know why doesnt trump and brace this possibility of bringing the troops home troops home because he campaigned on that and a lot of people are backing that i mean you have even in the other party telsey gabbert talking about that and is it doesnt he risk losing part of his base because thats what a lot of people we dont know the certain percentage would vote exactly for that why doesnt he embrace that go ahead chris. Or i think that option is Still Available peter i mean again though like all legislatures in the world they do a lot of talking and a lot of babbling but the executives still have to deal with the actual reality on the ground so i think if thats decisions going to be made theyre going to be prepared for all of the different logistical realities that will happen if that fully comes to fruition but another it thing peter why are we talking about the deaths the funeral from the crowds and the absolute lunacy over there i mean why do we never actually fully cover whats actually going on going to ran again a government where the clergy runs everything that every stretch of government is stacked with clergy that runs the entire government this idea of the iranian people are full united theres many uranium people that want nothing to do with the government but theyre afraid so i dont think were really getting the full picture i mean its amazing chris ill give you this even lets say everything you said is true what business is it of the United States what kind of how the government is run in rand what is what is the problem its their country i would i would agree i agree with you oppose limiting our footprint but im saying well were still there having to manage situations there are certain decisions that have to be made and i just have to push back on this complete celebration for military officers that have long been involved in iraq see that rands been very i am and i am took their hands i want to talk to the office and i want to possibly celebrate the end of these endless wars thats most important to me ok let me go to mohammed in i mean. We just had a description from chris here i mean what how does a rand look at how the region is of all things because and i think its only a matter of time before american troops leave iraq that means also syria how does that change the geo political reality or id like to say that american troops are in syria illegally under International Law they were not invited there by the government in damascus so they should even go even faster so how does the political terrain change go ahead in. The world. Ryan well obviously your guest in the United States knows nothing about iran and to call all those millions of people who went to the funeral loonatics is an insult to the nation what i do think is important is that trump himself admitted this is one of the ironies of this whole episode trump himself admitted once upon a time that it was iran and russia that were fighting isis and trump also admitted once upon a time that it was obama who created isis so. The the trump regime has admitted that soleimani because he was the key person who fought isis there were from the very beginning when isis was closing in on damascus he went in there you know help us and we dont have a real anywhere here i mean is it we are divided fareed if we have alexei is kris kringle really regime or as Chris Mohamed didnt you know i think you have a very rapidly regime you have a very ugly regime. You have a very ugly regime it is going to go on this we didnt hear a lot in many iraq 2000000 iraqis if it is helped and youre intolerant of opposing views because you keep interrupting me you have destroyed libya youve helped this so these massacre the people of yemen and impose a starvation siege your government has helped create isis according to your own president they have helped the saudis and others create extremist groups that have devastated syria they have destroyed afghanistan the United States helped create alqaeda i mean the list i mean im not im only talking about this region im not talking about bolivia or venezuela or africa or u. S. Support for apartheid in palestine or south africa but getting back to the point they met one of the problems of the americans is that they treat the people of this region with americans. They occupy iraq illegally then they ignore the government for example just recently the americans a contractor was killed americans informed the iraqi Prime Minister that they were going to bomb the popular Popular Mobilization force the Prime Minister told him not to do it big north him the Prime Minister of iraq said give me the intelligence they ignore that this is not the an ally this is an occupier and the u. S. Embassy being the size of the vatican is symbolic of an occupier and an empire so they go in kill bin when one contractor is killed they wont give the intelligence but then they go bomb 30 soldiers on the border on syria 500 kilometers away on the front line against isis why because they wanted to weaken the Iraqi Government footprint on the border to strengthen isis because they want to keep syria encircled they dont want trade to take place between syria and iraq because they want to strangle the syrian economy so the United States ignores iraqi sovereignty they murder people at th