Transcripts For RT Going Underground 20240713 : comparemela.

Transcripts For RT Going Underground 20240713

Companies armed pinochet to torture his people after so many years of trying to recover from a long dictatorship of almost 20 years you have an open wound in the Chilean Society when you have the military on the street and thats another thing that we have to take into account when understanding this crisis is that trauma of land society of having the military on the street is open again with the repression in human rights violation joining me now via skype is a member of the chamber of deputies of chile the democratic revolution politician jackson who is envelop aris a city that has seen violent clashes between protesters and police want your thanks for joining us before we get to the latest violence reminds us way the global south and even those in nature nation countries look to whats happening in chile as a chronicle of politics for told the legacy of new liberal dictatorship stupid machine chile. Well thanks 1st of all for this interview its very important where the 7 here in chile we within knock only because of our country but also for the region and also because as you said she was in the in the seventys in the eightys under the dictatorship she wasnt like an experiment of the new liberal policies without a democratic process you know under a dictatorship so it today we. Were living in the rules that the boys as we said to this academicians who passed with Milton Friedmans policies before the new liberals in the rest of the world she was the 1st experiment in the last 30 or 40 years haass implemented to our development who is mainly focused on the concentration of our economy and the trickle down economy. Ideology these demonstrations have relieved or release some energy who was very tied up inside of the peoples mind of the people heart that it wasnt able to get to the end of the months without having to spend with credit so i think that when everything is privatized you can not access to that basic rights that should be granted where anted so i think this is one of the main issues whom people in the streets are. Protesting on if the privatization chicago privatization model is the same can you really look at the dead the wounded and the tamed in chile today and compare it though premier as policies and positions policies. Now i think that contacts of course are different between dictatorships not only that human one but all the dictators city in the seventys and eightys are different that their soft dictatorships are different kind of the greater schieber are totally since in the 21st century so i think we are living today a lot of repression. Different marlos that. The democratic whistle lucians in order to change things for example this constitution this model and today were discussing except that how they yes policies are not. Enough for the population and the country is very polarized but the majority want to change the constitutions once a tool hire to get higher wages want to hot more Social Security that we dont have because hes privatized so i think that yes but he says. The population is not. Its not enough that what. Hes putting on the table you know but you know has to be said that in the era like the former british backed dictator british a claims he has we need to comic lee successful he said hes reduced poverty route 65 percent to 8 percent according to what he said while the British State mandated b. B. C. So lets be clear has been successfully not because i mean hes one of the most billionaires people here in chile one of the top 5 billionaires and he like to make one of the top 10 or 20 probably but our country more is not about democracy numbers today they are in employment its high its a day. Or numbers of Economic Growth are not what was expected to be where it would be yes promises on campaign but more than that people cannot get into the end of the month people have asked to to to have credit in order to buy in the supermarket the basic incomes i mean but it did basic thanks to good to eat our economical elite house and get that didnt get the message until these days ok but then for you and your movement the trade unions and premier theyre supporting a new constitution presumably an updated version of that new liberal pinochet 1980 constitution do you feel its not enough you want to constituent assembly plebiscites. This is what the n. S. A. That a few days ago in national television. He said that he wants also new constitution but in terms of what is the mechanisms he didnt say anything new because the current constitution the constitution puts clear rooms in order to change the continuation there are 2 thirds of the members of the of the house in order to change it until you know they cut the proposal of pineda its only rhetorical because they dont want to put a democratic constitution that doesnt pass describes so its like a trap its like a retake track but people who are. Informed people are reading the constitution people are starting to understand what are these locks that are from 981 from criminals mind and pinochets. Constitution and i are people are starting to realize that we doubt a process does a constituent process could be named assembly where you want to call it but we doubt this locks that very very tight its impossible to have a democratic constitution or your movement has shut down the apec conference where trump was supposed to sign a new u. S. A trade deal with china which he didnt bring also there was a climate coverage you shut down the what next because obviously the world news chile because of copper the Worlds Largest copper up production copper mines are in chile have you got the workers the copper miners on your side because according to Financial News wires your movement is not affecting the copper Commodity Prices which presumably could be crucial. 1st of all its i dont think this is my movement i feel that i dont river send exactly the movement of course were on the streets but the movement. It doesnt have like a head or power to this leading it its quite more decentralized and morally quit but i think that the demands of course are not to take down the conference or the opic because thats not the subject of the movement your question about the coverage workers theres a lot of support and theres a little bit of. Strikes. On their minds but has not been until now a massive strike on the demining sector if the government sets theres going to be a referendum in order to choose their paths or for how we change the constitution probably did movement. Celebrated as a victory ok but any expectation the international dock Workers Council may get a Solidarity Campaign going on 5 continents like when the liverpool strikes run here in 1905 is that the kind of where were going and do you fear military reprisal. Well sadly the 1st days of opinion us response were military state of emergency and we have suffered 5 people dead killed killed by. State agents we have more than 4000 people detained there has been people tried to there has been more than 200 people without an eye because of the shots that the police do today manifestations of the demonstrations so were very worried about this spiral of violence that to take place on the streets because in the 1st place t. V. Doesnt have a tradition of riots there are so high like this but when the police. Act in their way get out they have been acting this weeks and of course people started to response and thats not something that we want we just want to this taking a political process that the government refuses this so strictly were having violation of human rights by the agents of the state and thats something that. Rejects. In other territories in our region but here in ne ne ne in domestic land. Was decided to send repression in todays demonstrations to create a bigger gap between the demand and the response so people are not politicized and yesterday and probably without the political decision of the referendum its difficult to get into a solution or youre jackson thank you after the break Award Winning journalist greg palast on the return of the pink tribe surging across latin america from chile to brazil to ecuador and we explore the global tremors of a new release go to produce netflix film earthquake bird with the films Award Winning director watch with. Well the symbol going to go underground. The world is driven by. The day or. Week. Join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and ill be speaking to us from the world of politics. Im show business ill see if. Theres a lot of here is an economy where china has caught up or surpassed us you know the mobile Payments Market 50 times the size of the u. S. Over here still writing checks our Banking System is not innovated. Kind of recently woken up the last couple years and go wow we dont even have a company that can make 5 g. Equipment its been a win win for china and its been a lose lose for the u. S. Welcome back in the past off we heard from one of chiles most popular politicians about the struggle to free the country from the constitution of u. S. U. K. Back dictator Augusto Pinochet but for more of that and other fights for democracy taking place enough america im joined now by skype by Award Winning muckraker greg palast whos in Los Angeles California greg thanks so much for coming back on so we heard from a chilean politician youve been one of the worlds great just communicators about globalization what sit made you feel seeing violence in chile could be the cradle of neo liberalism. Look this is an old story weve now had for decades of battles back and forth between the neo cons and globalization free market liberalization which basically means allowing u. S. And European Companies to grab the resources of latin america they do it under the cover of free markets democracy which oddly doesnt involve respecting elections so i seen this i was you know reporting on the ground out of venezuela out of peru out of argentina out of chile and so ive seen this again and again where then you have popular uprisings you know you have popular elections putting in people like john is you have a home or alephs you have the kitcheners in argentina you had progressive in battle it in. In chile and of course the neo cons the banks the Big Companies cannot stand it so they have socalled popular uprisings which are very popular because they can actually win elections and basically seize power get its a coup detat because you have a Trump Administration there obviously fueled by a feeling that they have complete backing of the u. S. State department and government you mentioned marama as the media here and you also mentioned resources is talking not about resources b. B. C. If had he resigned amid turmoil coke caused by his reelection why be seen as for you know bloomberg that he quit c. N. N. That he resigned Washington Post resigned the New York Times the end of tyranny what can you call it a clue. Ok 1st of all there was an election and he won ok theres a dispute over whether there is no question theres a big dispute over whether he won enough to avoid a runoff but he won by a plurality of 10 percent ok i mean 10 Percentage Points is a landslide in any nation but it wasnt clear that the dispute was whether he wanted to avoid a runoff and instead this. Dispute over whether he quote whether you want by a landslide in one clear or not resulted in an opening for foreign interests and of course the the right wing to try to seize power once again in the santa cruz area the rich area which basically the white you know you dont forget racism in this he was the 1st. Indigenous person ever elected the head of libya which is an indigenous nation and theres a lot of racism and also his you know opposition to his Progressive Agenda so they seized power they were going to try to say lets have an election because he even offered and that wasnt good enough they literally seized the president ial palace guys who werent elected an auteur right wing organizations that were that seize the president ial palace and now they see you know theyre trying to overwhelm the elected and i want to underline that the elected congress which are from the party of evil morales and so there its about overturning democracy and you know this become a new trope i see this in in venezuela where the british and german and of course the trump government. Has endorsed this guy why dos as the socalled president of venezuela he didnt even bother running for office and by the way in all these cases youll notice something very very important the candidate is the president picked by foreign powers and again chosen by foreign powers not by the people are all white and racism is a gigantic part of the story of the control of latin america well im sure brussels and washington would deny racism but arguably they have failed in their attempts to overthrow the government of my doro of course because you know the Worlds Largest known oil reserves tell me about the school of the americas because 6 of the key plotters in bolivia went to the school of the americas what is that low school the americas is a kind of. Its a Training Ground basically for coup plotters what it is it supposed to be in place to to show latin American Military how to behave properly you know that this is suppose it was started because latin American Military was simply killing its citizens who were going to tell them how to control the population and do it politely without killing people in fact it became a school for coup plotters and of course encouraging the takeover of latin nations because the truth is that the Us Government and us corporations are quite unhappy with the idea of democracy in latin america and with Venezuela Oil was obviously an important element tell me about lithium because otherwise bolivia is just one of the poorest of the poorest country in latin america do we all carry a possibility here with us in our mobile phones and is that part of a coup yeah i mean one of one of the problems weve had this is all over the world live is not a special case it has lithium just as the democratic republic of congo has. A cold hand and also lithium and uranium its a resource grab it see old game that. We had in the 19th century in the early 20th century of grabbing resources except we dont do it nakedly anymore we have to cover it up saying oh were restoring democracy by removing elected officials lets face it if venezuelas main export were broccoli instead of oil they wouldnt care whos president there no forget that in the case of venezuela to give you a clear example of them and during government refused a request by the British Government and British Petroleum to turn over what was the french concession in venezuela to British Petroleum to b. P. Now to endure a government that was 2 years ago of the manure government simply handed b. P. The french concession in venezuela there would be no problem with the madeira government but madeira said no were keeping it were going to give it to the to the Venezuelan Oil company paid in mesa and it was at that point that the British Government and of course all the other european governments said well then in that case youre not a legitimate president you wouldve been quite legitimate if you turned over the oil to b. P. Well as you know b. P. And European Union governments will deny that and say its all about human rights act show me and we could also talk about the optimism of the return of the pink tide maybe the later date i want to ask you now though about Voter Suppression youre an expert on it will the 2020 election in the United States be fair. No not a chance america is a great imitation of democracy but we remove in the last 2 years are you ready for this United States as the various states have removed 14000000 voters from the voter rolls its called purging and theyre removed you know its like a and im up for the voter rolls to put in the crudest terms and theyre removing mainly voters of color black people hispanic and a lot of young people and they use all kinds of of tricks and its usually involving what we call jim crow or racist tactics but always with black voters and thats not just one state thats happening in 25 states in america. Thank you very welcome. Well themes of National Identity surveillance and globalism are explored in the new ridley scott british netflix film earthquake bird which is just premiered on the service in the past 24 hours then the oh no i detective story comes from the director of oscar winner still alice wash westmoreland and stars another oscar winner x. Magners alice you have a calendar i went to meet the director in Central London tell me about earthquake but earthquake bird is a story about a young woman whos living in japan in the 1980 s. And shes working as a translator and she gets drawn into a love triangle and becomes a prime suspect in a horrific murder so its kind of a tokyo nor. Its going their civic and exec produced by ridley score the whole film is would you say very global let alone the facts your lead actress speaking japanese is a global film we had a korean d. P. We heard of mainly japanese crew we had an australian producer alyse is from sweden and im from leeds i mean how global is art and they all have jobs listed and were all going underground he said theres always an awareness of clothes and economics in the midst of everything theyre all having to put joy over all while theyre going through mental trauma yes they are and you do get like clues into

© 2025 Vimarsana