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The continuing political factors coming from the 1st intifada the 2nd intifada and the war mainly the war encouraged many of the Young Palestinian families to immigrate so we are talking about 2 very important things the prevention of those christians who were outside before 96. 00 to 7. 00 to come back as palestinian citizens to live in the west bank and gaza and East Jerusalem plus the political situation ensuing the building of the wall which by itself prevents Job Opportunities it prevents normal conditions this encourage the Young Christian families as well as the muslims but actually due to the fact that christians are less in number it was more recognizable and fortunately in 2007 the palestinian Statistic Department did its last consensus the number of the palestinians living in the west bank are 3000000 and in gaza 2000000 the number of the christians living in gaza in the west bank and East Jerusalem are only 67000. 00 it is even less than one percent and to be clear this divert do with live cleansing about as Julian Christians as predated Donald Trumps rise in the United States when you were mayor in 2 of the 16 you said the christian world religion a drop 12 percent thats 11000 christians leaving do you expect more christians to leave the threads of israeli arbitrary detention in the coming weeks even as we approach christmas definitely i hope not but another very important point that we should not wait for more christians to leave until we find a solution usually this is the question that is raised all the time do christians leave because of the predominant. Political actions are run by israel or the decisions and policy of the us the words the palestinian israeli conflict today my question is when this resolution will take it before strand with equitable situations where the 2 state solution that ensures the big nitty of all of us palestinians as christians and muslims the question is not why the christians leave the question is when to that is or who should and should take place to ensure the presence of justice solution football sites do you expect many of gazas christians to visit bethlehem this year israel of course has been bombing at the gaza strip in the bar 726 hours definitely depends on the israeli permissions to the christians usually and normally it is not a big number it doesnt exceed 100. 00 would you go so far as to agree with say there was a University Study that suggested theres been an actual de facto ethnic cleansing of christians because of the occupation because of discrimination and. Theft let alone the economy which has been impacted of course by by the u. S. U. K. Armed occupation and the finitely the absence of a Peace Process and then just prison lucian for the palestinian israeli conflict affects the presence of the christians in this part of the world the conditions on ground creates combined of willing immigration but the conditions on the ground like countries cation walling checkpointing in bethlehem we have the highest rate of unemployment 27 percent the wall is disastrous the checkpoints are disastrous people are sandwiched people are poor ned and by itself. This is discrimination no human rights witness it is not the matter of that you live inside the wall to eat work and sleep no it is more than that palestinians are like the rest of the word are global citizens and what is applied on every citizen in the world should be applied on the palestinian including its muslim and christian in habitants and population of course the british and American ArmedIsraeli Government claims they need a wall circling jesus says birthplace for Israeli National security you know this is a very important question are we as a palestinian as palestinians in need as well for is sense of security as peace is important for us security for Israel Security is also very important for every palestinian the absence of security is also a very predominant factor for the people to leave the area usually it is always discussed that israel is predominantly need to ensure its security and thats why they need to build all this. Actually within the ward inside the ward we live with this sense of insecurity especially since im not sure whether the archbishop of canterbury represented reality and church as messages but pope francis i understand is sent relics this year from the vatican. Legibly from jesus is manger are you surprised that more christian leaders around the world are not making more of an issue the de facto ethnic cleansing of christians from bethlehem yes this is strained and dirty turn and there it is the return of the relic to bethlehem is a message by itself immobility the word to the Nativity Church the words the nativity of peace today when the lake of the cradle of the nativity is back to bethlehem definitely pope francis while approving this return of the relic has a message. And art of the world a word that we need every turn of peace to the cradle of peace in bethlehem in particular as lot guess peace is absent from bethlehem as long as specie is walled in bethlehem peace would never prevail because the main act of defiance on behalf of Palestinian Christians and muslims and atheists and in other communities has been the great march of return in gaza how is bethlehem jake in the news that or last fridays remark to return some 64 civilians have been wounded nearly 20 children including a paramedic according to palestinian sources bethlehem is part and parcel of the palestinian pain what took place in gaza it during this time of christmas when we all pray for peace what dicks place in gaza today while we are celebrating peace definitely enhances another meaning the why do we need to celebrate christmas since christmas is that message of peace with we dire linny. Were talking about children we are talking about injuries we are talking about as duis and definitely those people when they go when they conduct whatever it is considered a rite of existence is very important not only for guys and but for every palestinian their pain is our pain. Message to every citizen in the world enjoying this christmas time to see what they explain its a right to fix this sense of dignity. Thank you after the break. Walking in the. Tomorrows christmas election we speak out like composer of classic christmas composition the snowman all the small growing up about to going underground. Im not one who will ever argue that there are worthy and unworthy victims its also important to also distinguish the fact that whenever we have a crime scene or. I mean genocide and other cases of genocide thats that were talking about issues of confronting it and injustice and reparations for it are important it is important to confront the crimes wherever they happen but it shouldnt be. You know the experience of. In this particular case of the. Welcome back were in the studio one of britains most renowned composers i would like as well as his iconic music of the snowman hes composed for everyone from Princess Diana to ridley scott to the United Nations and tomorrow he plays his priest walking in the legendary matzoh soprano catherine. At the Royal Albert Hall howard thanks for inviting us into your studio we cant talk too much about tomorrows general election in britain because of reporting restrictions and lets hear about your performance tomorrow with the legendary metzer soprano Katherine Jenkins of the Royal Albert Hall yes im delighted. To be asked to do it i did it a couple of years ago. On the spur of the moment because. I have a dear friend musical director antony and this he said you know my bit they found for you to come along and conduct walking in there would you do so he said you only live next door so a minute wouldnt be too difficult to get through to the albert hall if youve been surprised about how successful it is i think youre saying when you choose hundreds of millions of hits millions of hits very surprised indeed and in fact the week off to the film came out it was nominated for an oscar of famous for many other things not just going to christmas composition but on the snowman i understand it was one of channel 4 the british read 3 new t. V. Stations 1st ever films and you said it should be your music rather than any dialogue a friend of mine a. Film director had come over from canada Jerry Patterson and he said im just going to pop into this. Animation studio called television cartoons. And we walked in there and. The director of the company john coats he said would it be possibly said could you spare a couple of minutes because ive done a little demo of something called the snowman and a minute and a matic pencil only. I said yes but id love to see it. So he put it on and the minute i show this image of the snowman and the boy flying. Through it is a marvelous image and i said i have had a cuban in my head for years that ive never known what to do with i think it would work for this and then i think more than that i think you could make a whole film without dot org and just do it with the music and joan said no no i dont know what youre talking about so i say well can i do a demo for you he said if youd like to and john took it to the new director of channel 4 it literally opened that Jeremy Isaacs looked at it and he said absolutely bring that will make i think you know it was in a way it was something i wanted to do all my life id always believed you could make a film and a story we just musing tell me about bernard home and famous for citizen kane forever hitchcock how he kind of took you under his wing. Own it herman. Through my agent lees keys and she said to me would you like to me but it herman i said i would love to because of course he is absolutely the doyenne of of film composers of all time with citizen kane behind him and psycho and so on and hes the 1st thing he said me do you know where i could find a thera main in london and i said ive never seen one of them i dont want to get there im an affair im an is an electrical musical instrument. They tease also affected by me so i sit in a while i know what it does but theres a new machine that ive just bought cold a movie synthesizer and not just bought it from dr moon can self and it will do exactly what a turban does and even more and its got its got a ribbon control which you can control with your finger and he said great i want to hear it where is it i say this in my flat he said lets go so thats how by relationships i played on the next film that he did which was cool twisted nerve bolting and he said would you also various pieces of jazz need to be written for it i said i. Do what have i have a very extraordinary career in a way that i started as as a as a classical pianist i want to a classical scholarship the world economy. Piano but while i was there more interested in film i got very interested in film 0 spent all my internal National Film theatre to some. And after i left the academy there was a projectionist i was there for about 2 years and then i missed music so much and i thought i actually want to know how to play it will be soul music and all that music and rock this is the music if i want to know about it i left there and got a job in a pub would you believe where you had to play after everything one day i was playing in a band in the club and a guard came up through and he said would you would you do. Would you would you come along to abbey road and tune or dition i went along and i became a pianist in residence at abbey road and i also played on film and then it was the avengers film music pretties caught theyve put in so many different films you made the hunger the avengers was extraordinary because. He started. Playing piano on of inches and Laurie Johnson actually wanted to go to to leave he would he had always written me as if avengers which was huge was going out in 93. 00 countries it was the biggest Television Show in the world and but he wanted to do this film and he said to determine it was a great friend of his he said is there anybody who could actually take over from me and just well he said you know youre pinned this could he knows your style and so i took over as as a musical director and composer at elstree so that thats what then led me into from they i started to do feature films i started to be offered them all round at. Another thing i did in the same way i did a commercial which won the prize for the best commercial of the year which also brought lead so back to work that i nearly died thats another story ok but then how come you may be transferred from film music to become in a way a kind of cooled composer understand you did the music for Princess Dianas 30th birthday how did you make that transition i thought our current keep writing commercials and commercial music at that point i moved to south 6 and i started to study. Serious music and Chamber Music and Everything Else and music that i really felt was my own music i was it was then to write the do list by ridley scott which was his 1st great film studio like you would with the establishment you can get more establishment than quietly and not money more establishment than writing music for the United Nations or going to tell me a bit about the u. N. The u. N. I mean. Buckingham palace and and the foreign and Commonwealth Office the head of the foreign call them both those office called me and said we want we want to write a piece or we want you to write the piece because its the 50th anniversary of the United Nations president will be the whole of the all of the top growth of the of the you know the nations plus. The house of lords and a lot of m. P. s on the Prime Minister and the whole of family and i know i wrote it in fact and the last minute i called it a charter for peace because it was it was written at the end of the war but general smuts and Winston Churchill and i thought. Offering to say this organization is to preserve peace but it was seen as controversial that the un off truly which was founded for world peace i for some reason i think if we had a vast array of media all lined up ready to film it. And at the last minute it was decided from above that it would not be filmed and it would not go and serve virtually nobody knew about it and i mean. Perhaps the worst because id call the charter for peace is there is there a tension between being in an establishment composer and famously played at the iraq war demonstrations in Trafalgar Square or spoken about un rights peace around the world is there a tension there no i dont see that at all i mean. I think the great advantage of being in this country has always been that one has the right to express ones opinion and one has a right to hold any opinions which. Which one chooses to hold and i have many very very unorthodox opinions all various things there has been a lot of. Stuff written recently that the 3 big anglican choral. Pioneers will coax clear bree ledger theyre all dead if you work with one of them it will cooks on been yes ive just been or stirred a piece for. That front yes it made such an impression that i was also then if i could score for a large monastery in mid sussex. With d wirth abbey at the end of the hour but said to me he said next year is the 1500. 00 birthday of benedict and i wrote this very big oratory on. It last about 70 minutes. And it was 1st performed in in worth and and amazingly which is right out in the country to an audience of 1700. 00 which was sort of extraordinary then nothing much happened until it was taken up by. So David Wohl Wilcox he said i want to do this all over the world it is it is a great piece he called it actually a work for all centuries which was a very nice thing to say how did like thank you a great pleasure well before how it plays of the Royal Albert Hall tomorrow hell play us out with walking in the air in a moment thats it for the show will be back on saturday with ledger journalist and filmmaker john pilger to take us through the aftermath of the u. K. 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