A smattering of democrats who went against their party with no votes but ultimately it was one congressman woman who has drawn condemnation from both sides of the aisle for her well president the congresswoman out of hawaii and current democratic president ial candidate tells the gathered made up 1st wednesday night in the nations history of Impeachment Votes by choosing to vote not yet a or nay but president. Cue the thunderous rebuke from capitol hill so the president ial impeachment moving forward and tells the gathered standing president lets start watching the hawks. If you want to deal with. The bank failed in the truth. Of. What they like i got. A chance. Well the women watching the hawks i am tyro vinter and joining me today is my unimpeachable impeachable panel of r t america allstars lynell of lynell media r t correspondent sara month and the host of the big picture holland cook and from toronto you want to only r. T. America correspondent alex mahela bitch thank you all for coming on today. All right so look i know that we all have an opinion or an observation the biggest story in the United States today the impeachment of one bottle from. You know that stain on this president ial jacket what are your initial thoughts lets start with sir well i spent a lot of time yesterday covering the impeachment throughout the day so just to just to kind of reiterate it just seems very much like you said highlighting the fact that there was supposed to be a formal debate of about 6 hours where the vote was supposed to take place by 7 pm eastern time at the latest the but it didnt take place until 8 30 pm eastern time and even a little after that so it just seemed like there was a lot of time of back and forth where both parties were arguing over the republicans on one side defending the president s actions saying that he did nothing wrong while the democrats just pointing saying that he violated the constitution that he sees are impeachable offenses it was just a back and forth of complete fighting where what gets to me is these issues that were trying to really focus on infrastructure what happened to the u. S. Being 1st something that President Trump has and to kind of for that argument we know whats going to happen here there have been 2 sitting president s have been impeached in history an 868 Andrew Johnson and in 1008 bill clinton neither of them were removed from office so it looks like this will be no exception for president from 5 or because the republicans have the majority in the senate so really just a lot of back and forth and over 8 hours just seems a bit much. To quote a great peggy lee is that all there is. It was like this in congruity like amish porn it was a go back to marilyn that was what was on the other side what are we watching what is happening i we waited we waited here was. It was the most on i didnt feel an even. In america going to the merits of it people called me very astute people i thought who said listen i dont want to get it and theyre going to get rid of it is it not whats the rules like rules what is this what happened is the n. Well Andrew Johnson by the way the tenure in office at getting rid of that new area was that was in all of the papers you covered this years ago family all correctly that one was at least probable tenable bill clinton i dont go into detail we least understood the subject matter this is the only impeachment where you could go to times square or any place Dupont Circle ask people what happens they dont know i believe dont want to can i say i will circle to you in a minute alan 1st i want to head out to toronto and get alex male a bitch as someone who outside of the country looking in and what have you what or what do you make of these wonderful impeachment proceedings that we had yesterday. But you know what looking from the outside in and im sure a lot of americans feel the same way as well the question is what is peach meant we were expecting pitchforks with knives out and you know here get out of the white house are going to be pushing the donald trump out no nothing like that basically its a dog and pony show that leads to nothing so anticlimactic of the watching the whole thing from the beginning 1st of all and 2nd of all it just shows how this system is. Lets not get into the division of all things i dont really care that yours is them its just doesnt seem to do what its supposed to do and youre wasting so much money so much time on this pietschmann that leads to nothing and ultimately will lead to more nothing and most likely lead to a much stronger donald trump in 2020 and when he times come for reelection this is something that he might be actually using to his benefit instead of to his detriment and holland cook please give us the big picture i watched for hours last night and i was shocked i couldnt believe my eyes there was jim jordan wearing a sport coat and doug collins is apparently being paid by the decimal but being a good news guy i was out by dawns early light this morning i read the news today oh boy if that wasnt a dated enough reference ive gone old school. And i notice other than the headlines are getting shorter you have the 3 word version and if you go to either of these alleged lefty rags theyve got it down do 2 words wow but if youre a real political junkie and one just give it to me hardcore and for anybody whos watching who has never been to the newseum here in washington you have until the 31st when it closes and quick tonight or 1st thing tomorrow morning if you go to the newseum is web site its a real shame or gets bored because you can see todays front pages from across the usa and all around the world and its very interesting to see how this is expressed 6 simply you know this is all we have the Attention Span for and to lionels point i bought these from the kid at walgreens and he said so trumps not president anymore this is not been understood it hasnt really been the last of all and so thats why i want to get to this next piece because it really jumped out at me tells the gabber drew fire speaking of being misunderstood for what she was trying to do drew fire from both sides for choosing to vote present when the when they took the Impeachment Vote yesterday wednesday take a listen to this clip of the congresswoman just a small a small part of her 4 minute speech on why she chose to vote present take a listen i am standing in the center and decided to vote present i could not in good conscience vote against impeachment because i believe President Trump is guilty of wrongdoing i also could not in good conscience vote for impeachment because removal of a sitting president must not be the culmination of a partisan process fueled by tribal animosities that have so gravely divided our country. So what do we make of blood oh you just started laughing what do we make of that what does their argument hold water dont you buy by the way shes cool. Dont you love that i couldnt i realize what he did was wrong. But then again i couldnt ask for him to be removed because that would be part of the invoice im a politician she is a democrat kind of she should watch her in the future but wasnt that great the president is like the no contest plea i didnt say i did it i didnt do enough if you look at data which is good though or as a kind i call it no context like lets just forget the whole thing yes smooth move on her part noncommittal but she does cement that candidate with a conscience thing low risk no risk way shes not going to be president but she has signed her name to something in a different way than the others have and i think thats also the problem that we live in a very divided society right now and the fact that shes shes calling that out that shes not going to vote one way or the other i think gives her a little bit of credibility in my book at least for that sense because i do believe that the democrats this may be a backfire for them because we almost know what this is going to play out to be whether theres a trial in the senate or not and i do believe that this will help the republicans and President Donald Trump did you see the lines waiting for his rally in michigan last night i mean that crowd was going big so you know its i want to throw to you your what do you think is. Playing it safe was that good is d that going to help her careers are going to hurt her career moving forward. Tulsi gabbard fan but when it comes to this i didnt like it i think she should have done something a little bit different she didnt explain herself i mean going back to the Founding Fathers and you know this is what this is all about heres trump that did some bad stuff in but look at the Founding Fathers wanted to its not about that its the fact that she should have spoken about the wars that this country has been an illegal wars the illegal funding of terrorist organizations that have killed americans by americans and american governments she should have spoken about that kind of stuff and put that up next to what trump did in comparable and i think toll see gabbert as this as a candidate for president who is really running on this antiwar platform thats the things that wed like to hear from her thats where i wanted to hear from her and i think that would have made a little bit more sense of that kind of excuse for saying president which im president right now too i wish i could have said that at the beginning that i would have to be saying all this but at the end of the story is like look the bottom line is she just didnt explain herself i think there was no there and i think is actually going to go i could be a big negative for her i dont think this is going to resonate for her has been around by the way tell us as a major league as a random scieno. Not to say had just try not to say its not but remember what Arlen Specter during the clinton he said not prove. Always wants to be he is that asterisk in history but let me tell you something he is got a big future dont run. Eliminate her present and also moving aig. What do you think is the adirondack way but watch these is he what was so good about her. Thats true she got that everywhere. And it might be one of those odd positions that at the end of the day when enough time has passed and i think people look back on this for the circus from both sides. Both sides are guilty of this trump and the democrats when they look back on this they might be say oh wow heres somebody who actually said i got washed away on this mess i dont know well see how this all plays out all right everybody as we go to break our quaters dont forget to let us know what you think of the topic you cover the local media be sure to check out watching all the podcast which is now available on spotify apple music and everywhere you listen to your favorite or favorite podcast coming up our Blue Ribbon Panel weighs in on the latest twist in the world of the Edward Snowden saga and the school lunch issue that strikes all our Bank Accounts and heartstrings what you. Dream agreed to prison which old mr remember there was most of the family were working class and it wasnt it was bad you know much worse objectives leeson day but there was an expectation that things were going to get better. And there was a real sense of hope. There isnt today todays america where shape by the 10 principles of concentration of wealth and power. Reduced democracy at tax. Engineer elections manufacture consent and other principle holds according to. One set of rules for the rich opposite set of rules for. Thats what happens when you put power into the hands of a narrow sector will switch will is dedicated to increasing power for chills just as youd expect one of the most influential intellectuals of our time speaks about the modern civilization. America. Well it finally happened donald trump has been impeached by the house of representatives in complete opposition to what the founders had even vision the articles voted on were along party lines it is highly unlikely the senate will vote to remove the president from office so what is the point of this entire exercise. When n. S. A. Whistleblower Edward Snowden published his memoir permanent record last fall it debuted at number 2 on the New York Times bestseller list and went on to be a smashing success. And now it appears that the United States government will be getting a cut of mr snowdens profits the New York Times reports almost immediately upon its release the u. S. Justice department sued mr snowden seeking to seize his proceeds from his new memoir because he did not submit the manuscript for review before it was published so officials could make sure it contained no classified information well that lawsuit has come to its conclusion the United States the. Judge liam ogrady of alexandria virginia has ruled that in a 14 page opinion that snowden was in breach of his Employment Contract that requires authors to get approval for material containing any mention of Intelligence Data or activities or any other information or material which is known to be classified the government will also now be going after proceeds from his speeches as well now this is not the 1st time that the u. S. Government has gone after authors in breach of the security clauses back in 2016 a navy seal who wrote about killing bin laden was forced to give up almost 7000000 in royalties to the government so the question is my panel should we allow the government to essentially profit from former employees turned fiction authors ill start with you alex. You know one stoughton is just out of the way in russia and you cant epstein the guy well might as well go for his wallet and thats exactly whats happening here so they want to hit snowden on every possible way that they can but Edward Snowden doesnt really seem to care and i think thats probably bugging them a little bit more than that the whole fact that they cant reach him at this point with snowden hes basically come out and said listen this book was written for the public i want people to know he is a whistleblower and thats what whistleblowers do so you just want to put out a little bit more information there am i going to get the money am i not going to get the money thats secondary to me so should the government be able to do that you do sign contracts when you work for the cia and the n. S. A. As you saw in car. For working for private corporations but on the way out you know the corporations are going to say well you cant work for our competitors or you cant disclose this information sometimes people do that they win in court so it could be the same type of thing where you look at the government b. B. He could get his bucks maybe he wont but i think either way someone just doesnt care is it the absolutely insane for the government to kind of make this argument against probably one of the most famous whistleblowers in the street to be like hey you should have checked with us before you wrote your book can you imagine going to getting approval at a time thats my thing is this is i want to talk about the stuff i can i think do that what about this is a this is tantamount to the son of sam laws which were found unconstitutional and then really brought back again which says a person cannot quote profit from their own crimes and thats been i hate that its the most unconstitutional thing because if you think about people whove actually committed crimes and then wrote about it the war there was a Martin Luther king st paul in jesus Mahatma Gandhi and hitler bad example but in mine company so this is an extension of that this is the idea that were going to go after we want to stifle speech and thats what this you can say this is merely a contractual penalty but this is about quelling speech and tell the woman i want shut up and that is not america and i think thats something that i think has become very blurry nowadays with with intelligence where like you said i mean these are our tax dollars sometimes going to these Intelligence Officers but i do agree much of what alec said that snowden wrote this to tell the story and the u. S. Government is trying to go for anything they can at this point for him and much like alex said snowden probably doesnt care much about the money at this point he struck out in russia and United States officials or said iran with russia by and i just want to clarify that no clarification there thank you little on the credibility for the just that hes i mean hes just theres no he can go nowhere. And hes afraid to go anywhere again because the United States is just trying to hit him wherever it hurts him every time we were on one of those aeroflot commercials i want to go i dont know how bad it is. In terms of that controversy p. T. Barnum would love this you know this is the bad boy that you want to date because your father disapproves and so theres that but as a practical matter why do you think hes on the lam and how can they get their hands on his money we have transcended. Currency via that coin etc they going to attach his proceeds from amazon he can sell the darn thing as a p. D. F. And click back if he wants you know theres enough ways around the system that i think its probably a net win for him because of the stink its true and the more publicity but its interesting because you when you guys brought up that idea of going after him you know going after his money right now was a Chelsea Manning just celebrated i think or 32nd 33rd birthday because shes standing up for principles and they have her in jail again despite you know releasing her last year is that hard can we keep a straight face now when we kind of condemn other countries for going after you know political folks they dont like or dissidents in their country when at the same time here we are forcing upward snowden to live in exile because you know we will get a fair trial here in the reasoning free is that is theres a little bit of a are we had to face when it comes to that alex. And you cant you get your ideas are you going to guess what its like watching him do we come across into. The law is that you know that i mean that of course i mean theres so man