Sometimes so they can sometimes kindly but above all as a player in your own right i hope you would kindly but above all as a player in your own right i hope you would indulge me one moment while i say a word about you. Im sure you will indulge me one moment while i say a word about you. Im sure you will. I dont know what theyre paying you. I dont know what theyre paying him this is just me old i have nothing to show to i. Just be owed i have the finish order i. Was in response to that question was a response to that question the Prime Minister has finished and he can take it from me that is fair regime. Prime minister has finished and you can take it from me the respect that resume your seat mr harper you dont stand where im standing and thats the end of it but i couldnt care less whether you like the secret stuff you dont stand where im standing and thats the end of it but i couldnt care less whether you like you dont you think its nothing disorderly required by soul in order for you to get along he is nothing disorderly required by soul in order for you mr secure if you are a master of the old man its just your. You are a master of the old man after the imposition of the my current band by president try after the imposition of the my current band by president even more strongly i have a few energy even more strongly i have a few other dress by President Trump in Westminster Hall with us by President Trump in Westminster Hall with the we will join alex with our pundits with the they will join alex with our Pundits Panel shortly but 1st to scotland economic commentator michael fry pan or shortly but 1st to scotland economic commentator Michael Fried is something of a rarity a free market economist but also a supporter of course it is something of a rarity a free market economist but also a supporter of Scottish Independence alex asked some west and scotland in this christmas break to independence alex asks him west and scotland in this christmas breakfast election and about his recollections of went elections of the past election and about his recollections of went elections of the past. Michael frye political commentator but also a notable historian michael fry political commentator but also a notable historian so lets have a look at the when some of the actions of the 20th century know that there was another to let some a look at the when some of the actions of the 20th century know that there was another went to the election and fed lee in 1974 when edward teef told it by the minister with a majority in the house of commons went to the country and things done as he expect went to the election and fed lee in 1974 when told it by the minister with a majority in the house of commons went to the country and things done as he expected either absolutely not well he wanted to make it a an elected either absolutely not well he wanted to make it a an election of the government versus the trade unions which is in a rather distant ocean of the government versus the trade unions which is in a rather distant analogy from boriss election about the People Versus Parliament analogy from boriss election about the People Versus Parliament about the early seventys had been a time of rising industrial about the early seventys had been a time of rising industrial unrest especially as again britain was losing its reddest especially as again britain was losing its economic position in the world and various staple industries you know obviously my economic position in the world and various staple industries you know obviously mining but also in scotland ship building and coal mining then ng but also in scotland ship building and coal mining they were all falling victim to foreign competition so the obvious they were all falling victim to foreign competition. So the obviously the trade unions wanted to protect their members jobs and the industries they were where the trade unions wanted to protect their members jobs and the industries they were working in but the government had got to the point where it regarded regarded as an acting in but the government had got to the point where it regarded regarded as an absolute majority in the sestina that they should take charge and they should decide. In the sestina that they should take charge and they should decide which industries were going to survive because now of course they were prepared to offer which industries were going to survive because now of course they were prepared to offer state money to do this but they werent prepared to offer as much state money to do this but they werent prepared to offer as much state money to the mines as Arthur Scargill and others wanted them to take money to the mines as Arthur Scargill and others wanted them to so that the loss of industrial disputes and edward heath and his cabinet. So that their loss of industrial disputes and edward heath and his cabinet well are not so much grew tired of this but got to the point where they thought with one shot well not so much grew tired of this but got to the point where they thought with one short sharp shock they can kill off the power of the trade unions short sharp shock they can kill off the power of the trade unions and the general election through have everyone 573 for one was that he said today the vote was the hilt and they deal with what happened then with a one parliament a Hung Parliament so nobody really got what they wanted or nobody would have but thats really when to go into what they wanted how but this wasnt an election you think voters johnsons in for a shock or do you think is the gambling correction you think brought us johnsons in for a shock or do you think. Gambling correctly and manipulating his election. Well certainly the lesson likely and manipulating his election. Well certainly the lesson of those 2 previous examples of 923 months or so before of those 2 previous examples of 923 months or so before shows that things dont always go the way that the government expect shows that things dont always go the way that the government expects them to and has calculated that they will now this tax them to and has calculated that they will now this time we we dont really know weve had no real tests of we we dont really know weve had no real tests of what Public Opinion about this well the breaks a deal has to be reached but the prospective Public Opinion about this well the brakes a deal has to be reached but the prospective breaks it deal is and in many ways it looks rather a poor deal i mean breaks it deal is and in many ways it looks rather a poor deal i mean. Party says its brilliant but not many other people to greet so either party says its brilliant but not many other people to greet so i think because of the lack of evidence i think Public Opinion will be think because of the lack of evidence i think Public Opinion will be very volatile and more than usually it would depend on the way they volatile and more than usually it would depend on the way the Campaign Goes on in campaigns a full of accidents are expand the Campaign Goes on in campaigns are full of accidents are expected events and we still are either we still have people in europe back to the events and we still are either we still. I have people in europe who dont which is particularly well we have the European Commission im assured by dont we should specifically well we have the European Commission im assured by the a who seem to be taking a dim view of the whole thing i think theres an awful lot could go who seem to be taking a dim view of the whole thing i think theres an awful lot could go wrong between now and mid december and hope that the situation skull wrong between now and mid december and hope that the situation in scotland michael fry how will the european position interplay with the scottish with michael fry how will the european position interplay with the scottish constitutional question well i think is very difficult to see anything but a constitutional question well i think its very difficult to see anything but a good result for the s. N. P. Who lost out last time went down from 50 a good result for the s. N. P. Last time went down from 56 to 35 seats but this time i would expect them to regain the 35 seats but this time i would expect them to regain most if not all of those seats and i think as to resist if not all of those seats and i think theres 2 reasons for this i mean the 1st one is thats i think nicholas sturgeon has cause for this i mean the 1st one is thats i think nicholas sturgeon has quite subtly without going over the top kept the brute might subtly without going over the top kept the brew bubbling. Independence for these last 3 years bubbling. Independence for these last 3 years you know plenty of marches printed demonstrations plenty of him. Plenty of marches printed demonstrations. Plenty of him sudden there weeks about this and that so are they you know the trip the troops are already going to go weeks about this and that so are they you know the trip the troops are already going to go so you can expect a very enthusiast to campaign. Goes so you can expect a very enthusiast to campaign. But the at the same time the youll be the actual object but the at the same time the youll be the actual object the purpose of the election is to decide about brechts it and the purpose of the election is to decide about brechts it and that then awakens the original s. N. P. Idea that then awakens the original s. N. P. Idea that because scotland voted so heavily in favor of remain that because scotland voted so heavily in favor of remain at the european referendum this gives us a mandate to at the european referendum this gives us a mandate to go again for independence even if the attention of the you can go again for independence even if the attention of the u. K. Is riveted on Something Else so i think at the end well get to the a is riveted on Something Else so i think at the end well get to the positive results from the point of view the s. And p. Will get a big increase in seats and well get positive results from the point of view the s. And p. Will get a big increase in seats and well get a mandate for a new independence referendum now the question its a mandate for a new independence referendum now the question then is whether baris if he wins the election will grant that and then is whether baris if he wins the election. Will grant you that that referendum which the answer i think is no or whether those that referendum to which the answer i think is no or whether theres going to be some other combination of parties through which it might be achieved and does that mean theyre going to be some other combination of parties through which it might be achieved and does that mean the the s. N. P. Staking everything on a another Hung Parliament and the s. N. P. Staking everything on a another Hung Parliament and being able to examine influence to secure the the sections theft being able to exempt influence to secure the the sections theft the studs and wishes in order to decide to fire the other Scottish Referendum the studs in wishes in order to decide to fire the other Scottish Referendum well i think in practical terms thats the only way it can come you would have to have what i think in practical terms thats the only way it can come you would have to have a minority labor government dependent on the s. And p. A minority labor government dependent on the s. And p. Not necessarily in coalition but dependent for certain matches on the s. N. P. Messire in coalition by dependent for certain matters on the s. N. P. Members of the house of commons and then the condition of that support would members of the house of commons and then the condition of that support would be that joe be caught in would permits and other independence referendum be that gerry because ben would permits and other independence referendum now hes already said that hes not willing to do that but lets just wait and see what the outcome of now hes already said that hes not willing to do that but lets just wait and see what the outcome of the election is i mean it may be that Gerry Corbett if he wants to be Prime Minister not of the election is i mean it may be that Gerry Corbett if. He wants to be Prime Minister im not entirely sure if you will to be Prime Minister what really had no choice but a final question Michael Franti sure if you will to be Prime Minister what really had no choice but a final question michael fry youre an unusual beast in scottish politics and that you are a free market i you are an unusual beast in scottish politics in that you are a free market supporter of Scottish Independence what changes you would you like to see supporter of Scottish Independence what changes you would you like to see and how the independents argument 1 is deployed well i dont think i had to read it how the independents argument 1 is deployed well i dont think i had a referendum a head of the actual achievement of independence theres much chance of a head of the actual achievement of independence theres much chance of changing the policies of the s. N. P. I mean not sure the theyre set in stone but they changing the policies of the s. N. P. I mean not sure the theyre set in stone but they certainly have a heavy majority is in the conference is but you know the real tight they have a heavy majority is in the conference is but you know the real world awaits out there and the real world is composed of free market world awaits out there and the real world is composed of free markets on trade and if scotland wishes to participate in the International Side of trade and if scotland wishes to participate in the International Economy then free markets is the only way to go michael fry for economy then free markets is the only way to go michael fry from ed miller thank you very much indeed join us after the break well. Thank you very much indeed. Join us after the break where our panel of political pundits will unstick questions on where the party stunned a star panel of political pundits what the questions and where the party stunned us was still a tease start. Felicitys. We have this goal almost. And. 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Welcome back as a run as line up for the christmas election race the best people to my cue cards are our panel of pundits people action race the best people to my cue cards are our panel of pundits peter oborne knows more about the in a workings of the tory party than any other commentator while little god knows more about the inner workings of the tory party than any other commentator while lembit or pick as a former president ial candidate over the democrats they are both in a bit or pick as a former president ial candidate over the democrats they are both in conversation with alex so what about the shock of the star conversation with alex. So what a