Ok thats it for us for now were expecting the Russian Foreign minister to take to the podium of the u. N. General assembly in the next half an hour or so and well be right back to bring you that live meantime its putting the hoax in a few moments. Join me every thursday on the alex simon show and ill be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business im showbusiness ill see you then. 3 days of salutations while the impeachment horns are blaring all over your cable news feeds and pedantic punditry this week or watchers its important to remember there was more going on in this world than just us President Donald Trump versus nancy pelosi out im sure if joe biden than reality. That there is more news out there than whats allowed on jake tappers teleprompter every night news that is important thought provoking and even scarier in other words news that affects you in the rest of us just as much as political impeachment games played by millionaires working for billionaires news like this new report out of bard college a center for study which found that 95 countries now own military drones and Drone Operations are becoming deeply embedded in the Armed Forces Worldwide in ways that are changing Global Security how bad is it you ask well the report estimates that there are at least 21000 at least 21000 and probably more than 30000 Unmanned Aerial Vehicles in military Service Worldwide today and while were on the subject of technological terrors that we vastly underestimate and their negative impacts on our lives sovereignty and well being lets talk about the westmoreland family of milwaukee wisconsin who came home one quiet september afternoon to find their smart home was hacked fox 6 news reports that their thermostat had been turned all the way up to 90 degrees a voice speak again speaking to them from a camera in the kitchen and then started playing vulgar music. In the 21st century you dont need ghosts to haunt your house just these 2 folks from the ninetys now lets go to the show and start watching the hawks. Thats like. Its one. Of the but its its. Like you know that i got. To. Think. This is. The one watching the hawks i am tyrone are right and today we put dialogue over the fate of the walls myself bring you 2 distinct and informative discussions featuring a variety of topics and guests with unique political viewpoints starting my very own perception and perspective. And joining me today to bring their unique mixes of perspective through this to these stories is the founder of truth the media swan legal and media analyst line a line all media on the host of the big picture the one and only alan cooke thank you all for coming on i want to start with military drones now being found being used in operated militaries in close to 95 close to 100 nations around the world ben i start with you you actually made headlines all way back in 2012 when you questioned president obama about his drone kill list is this proliferation of drone use something that you saw coming something that you know when you questioned obama you about this was the end game every country battling with Unmanned Aerial Vehicle aerial vehicles. I think we all kind of knew it was going to head that way you know back in 20112012 youre right 2000 was when i question the president on the legality of it and especially on the killing of u. S. Citizens using those drones you know drones at the time they were the new hot form of warfare everyone talked about how this was the future of warfare and they were right but i think back in 2011 if you look at the articles that were being written at that time the question was about what country should the United States sell drones to who should they give them to well now were living in a time when the 3 Top Countries that produce drones are the United States israel and china and as you said 95 countries have these in their militaries are developing sophisticated drone programs and lets not forget i mean these are countries by the way like as your bike shop and i geria that happens as well but not just that but not just nation states but even like drug cartels have their own drone fleets and drone programs through which theyre training drone pilots so it is larger than just a nation state issue it is truly become the future of warfare and its a pretty scary thing it is rather scary. Why do you think it was a good line all and why why do you think that we have suddenly moved into this idea of the ok its easier to use of drone its and does that make getting into warfare easier when you dont have to worry about the pilot you dont have to worry about that its just some guy you know in a one a bag go in arizona in our case pushing buttons is it easier to go toward oh are you going to mind control thats exactly what im going to say 3 things that concern me number one semantics we call it drones you a. V. s this did you see this see this is a basically a plane that this is the now 1525. 00 but this is not a drone number 2 its not so much of drones that scare me its the Artificial Intelligence aspect where somebody may read a link which one day to these things to get to work operationally when you see fit but the 3rd part which is most important which you allude to city of edge of the long ball when people absented themselves and remove themselves from mano a mano if youve got some kid wearing a weird suit and a quantity down in vegas playing a toggle game switch on something it may not have the same feel of war you may not see that the children in the body splayed in and vaporize you may just see you might use words like engage in story hes in and that so all of those things this is a prescription for on mitigated disaster and here it was certainly an element where he talks about Artificial Intelligence i get the willies because remember in Battlestar Galactica dont let the computers talk to each other too but what you said about the bow and arrow were really on a continuum of technology in the president ial debates where mitt romney says we have fewer ships in the navy and obama quipped yeah we have fewer horses and bayonets too so weve seen a warfare now go from boots on the ground our eyes on the sky and to lionels point we trivialize the kill you know that somebodys child out there its a little too easy and we have to remember too is that were seeing the same amount of p. T. S. D. In the Drone Operators that you see in a regular soldier exhibit end of a. They know its not a video game when i hit that button and that person disappears on the im a black and white or color screen in this in this is in this trailer and i just took a life and plus theyre working wanted to let you go but yeah because it is a lot easier to make mistakes using drones and weve seen that happen with drone pilots as well you know we know there are a lot of documented cases in fact there was a drone strike i believe it was just one week ago where 10 people were killed in afghanistan who were not of fighters they were not taliban or al qaeda these were actual people at a wedding who were killed by a drone by accident that happens far too often so even though drones and we hear about them being promoted as well its safer because theres fewer american or pilot deaths or soldier deaths that may be true but whats not true is that there are fewer deaths associated with them in fact the number of deaths because of Collateral Damage is actually higher with drones than it is in conventional warfare again it goes back to semantics and benj right we talk about super smart bombs and smart this one now there are weapons i say to make concern and basically we will get hope that we hit on target and then when we make a mistake and be called friendly fire or Collateral Damage this sounds almost like a carlin routine but we will literally absented of cells for moral responsibility by giving a different name to remove ourselves and then again just to say look this is the way it goes actually youre not going to see fewer vietnam memorials fewer americans so those are the breaks if you want to make an omelet you gotta break if youre one of the dangerous look up Collateral Damage in the dictionary theres hiroshima you know at least this is a laser beam you know its interesting you know i want to also move this other topic this was really intriguing and actually lionel you brought this to my attention this week so you have this couple like all good modern couples today they buy their nest camera on their doorbell when their thermostat in their living with the smart home and its theres computer real running everything and them hackers command the hack their wife i leads them to their nests and. And suddenly youre living in a Haunted House where your voice is coming over your speakers and you know people are turning up your thermostat so that it really shows out of a very you know macro level this is really dangerous stuff were playing with when when strangers could enter your home through these devices have we given up i mean we know that weve given up personal privacy you know for the kind of home gadgety gimmicks but are we giving up too much of our safety as well oh yes absolutely in fact lets take this next to insulin pumps to pacemakers to use different types of brain implants that can affect seizure disorders if i have one of these and i can override a persons house i can override your heartbeat you know your brain i can do a lot of things so this is this is almost like a very kind of funny but this is precisely what were looking at right now because we have created a situation which by the way theres no return you dont come back you know say you know what hold it stop lets go back to the key and back to the harbin paper its not going to happen it isnt it is you know i meant to me that raises the question. Of them how and how to how do we balance still kind of our need for the fun gimmicks and the leisure things that we like to experiment with that we like to have with the need for our own safety and security when it comes to this but im. Sure well a couple things number one and lionels absolutely right were not going to ever go backwards the question is how do we go forwards in a safe way or one of those ways i would almost guarantee that this family you know bought a router for their wife i probably never even changed the password they probably kept every password was on it when they bought it at the store so they were probably easily hackable a lot of people do that right there very easily hacked all because they think i would anyone want to be on my wife i well because now your door locks are on your wife or your fridge raters on your wife and so everything is connected to that and so is the more connected you become through a wife i say you can be so basic steps of protecting that insecurity and you know those wife i logons are very important and thats the most basic thing you can do protect yourself when youre when you buy a router with the. Set up your internet and change your password great great points now on the lighter side you shunned me at thanksgiving dinner for telling this story about my brother in law i did this really got a place down in hilton head and they told my brothers go ahead use our place while were about home meanwhile back in connecticut mark is turning the thermostat up to 9 and my brother kept turning it down maybe a saw the story i think it was in New Hampshire guy comes home and sitting in the driveway crated up a water heater had been delivered and they ascertained that the parrot and alexa were having a conversation which was misinterpreted as ordering the water heater and of course the guys credit card was on file so it happened so i dont know it does and thats a great point and on and on the lighter side of it and i think that what i agree with what everyone is saying here is that we when you have these technologies understand what youre buying understand what youre allowing into your home and then take the necessary precautions if you want to buy it we need a Manhattan Project we need a kind of a Russell Committee we need Citizen Input we said back like slaves in saying look theres nothing we can do whether its gene splicing whether its any kind of d. N. A. G. M. O. It doesnt matter we sit back and we feel like well look if in if industry is going to come up with that theres nothing we can do wait a minute yes we cant there has to be either i want to bring government into it but a subcommittee a russell hearing something from me or a little we can say explain this and not feel like we just have to sit back and watch as passive victims of bulls that is definitely something none of the 4 of us at this table do is sit back and watch things possibly i want to thank you all for coming out of a bend swan lionel and coco to the big picture always a pleasure having the 3 of you on thank you so much all right everybody as we go to break off watchers dont forget to let us know what you think of a top cover for the of be sure to check out watching the hawks the podcast available on spotify apple music and everywhere you look at the podcast coming up cohost with the most of the walls opens the gallery on the menu state. And they do children fall live through lack of circulation is causing controversy among adults you definitely dont want to miss the job or station they too will want to. Go. Or a little bit messed up by our d. N. A. And something way over the to read im not sure it is such a great thing you know im sure you look better now than when you had hair. Long its nice for you to say so but i do i went down when i was 25 and it wasnt so great that. Ronald reagan once said government exists to protect us from each other where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves more and more these days we are inundated with government backed legislation to curtail the things we do from vaporing to straws were seeing the solution to Public Health and environmental crises. Is to ban and why crazy widespread bans on small itty bitty sections of our allies and while parents in new york are faced with a School Banned for not having their children vaccinated one chicago area couple nearly lost custody of their newborn baby for refusing a vitamin k. Shot often give it to newborns to help with blood clotting in the event of an emergency thats right a few short moments before after giving birth angela bauer told a nurse about to give her newborn a vitamin k. Shot that she had already spoken to the doctor and in chosen to sign a waiver legally refusing the shot on religious grounds power alleges that the nurse refused to give her the form and instead reported the couple to the Illinois Department of children and Family Services it was over 12 hours before our was able to hold her newborn for the 1st time after this law was rescinded requiring this about a year later it was revealed that of the 138. 00 families that were investigated regarding the vitamin k. Shot refusal only 7 showed any signs of neglect most often having nothing to do with medication or lack thereof but it isnt just the government that feels the need to poke their nose in other familys affairs mattel is being accused of trying to pander to the woak agenda with a new line of dolls called creative will world the dolls come with short hair and a long haired wig 2 sets of clothing including pants and a skirt giving them 1000. 00 different options for outfits and looks what has some concern is that the gender of the doll is not obvious they could almost be called gender neutral a dirty word in todays climate so lets. See international from moscow were cutting into watching the whole as we mention were going to take you next to the u. N. General assembly in new york well as promised the Russian Foreign minister is about to address delegates lets take you there live now. Its a good version but it was good to see the number you sort of our general ladies and gentleman the less than a month more will be marking the 75th anniversary of the creation of the. Un and which came to be as a result of the victory in the 2nd world war and was a broader effort to alter peoples understanding of the need to create a collective mechanism. To maintain International Peace and security unfortunately the events of the cold war that started soon thereafter. Prevented the un from unleashing its immense Creative Potential but then we had hope again when the about 30 years ago the war went on which symbolized the confrontation between some 200 inside a bill systems we hope that we will finally be able to leave the pains and stories of war behind and leave behind wars whether call a cold or a heart and unite. For the betterment of all mankind and jackson fortunately while the un allowed us to prevent just like the 3rd world war there are still much conflicts and animate in the world we now have new great challenges such as so global terrorism drug crime Climate Change illegal migration and the growing gap between the rich and the poor the divisions between the International Community are getting stronger and we believe that the reason for this state of events is that some countries are unwilling. Some countries that declare themselves victors in the cold war are unwilling unwilling to reckon with the legitimate interests of the rest of the International Community and accept the objective reality of the march of history it is difficult for the west to accept that. Centuries long dominance is now waning and centers for economic and political influence are on the rise and there are new issues. And without other countries there can be no. Sustainable solution to global problems. Leading western countries are trying to prevent the formation of a multi centric always centric world and are trying to take back their privileged positions and impose on others their own behavior based on their own