To. Get the. Real thing its. Like you know what i got. With. The. Both of them on the watching i robot and then tabitha lawless joining us to discuss the impeachment inquiry and present as the president of the phyllis safely evil for an education and Legal Defense fund and marc thanks for joining us great to be with you thank you got it out all right so i got the allegations what trump an administration are being accused of it appears that. It appears that they literally did with ukraine what muller and company tried and failed to prove he did with russia and thats collude with a foreign power to damage a political opponent why did the trump of ministration essentially attempt to to do what they just got cleared of well look i think 1st of all i think that its been interesting to watch the democrats get ahead of the story and now today we have more of the story when you read the transcript and again i think we have all of it i havent actually seen all the coverage is totally on redacted but we do hire the president to be in charge of among other things the election upcoming in the integrity election and one of the things hes saying is theres big corruption with biden thats now known its a fact there was no quid pro quo this is kind of classic trump and you know when youre the president member obama and his admin. Stray ssion were the ones that listened at least to steal and when they said hey what is this do you have something on trump lets investigate now i think we all wonder about what the roots of that were but the president supposed to do that so you know i think its not impeachable as you point out theres other moments in the ministration where you could say hey thats a worse piece of conduct than this exchange its interesting it really is interesting let me ask you. Then how do you think that we would. See the democrats pushing for this impeachment if the candidate they were looking for information on was state healthy gabardine well no obviously told. A bum deal as you see by the way i think was that she the leading democrat to say dont bother with impeachment will just divide the country and it wont be worth the trouble no the answer is no somewhere Elizabeth Warren is looking at the camera watching us and saying this is good for my campaign but i you know look i think the different question the other question right now is nancy pelosi didnt want to do this and even when she did it people are noticing she didnt say theres the committee it will be this group she said theres going to be i think 6 areas of investigation theres not going to be one fast track shes really so now whats whats nancy pelosi choices either she gets it done and the country looks up and says you know its not going to pass the Senate Anyway were Voting Senate or she doesnt get it done and trumps exonerated so shes put herself in a box and i dont know how she gets out and thats an interesting come aboard you know and speaking of where this all leads to i mean lets say you know if your investigation actually commences given the length of time im going to write it we all kind of live through impeachment process is before they take forever and yet many of them say of all our own another right old enough to have truly lived there i remember and gosh what fun it will. Yell obviously talk about the one that was like 200 years ago by the way one detail that no one said you know that far as ive seen you know move on dot org started as an effort to go. Hadnt censure bill clinton and move on to the business in other words that was people that love bill clinton who said cut it out dont do this dont impeach him just move on to the business you have to wonder with 94 percent of the Republican Party behind trump are there going to be people remember nancy pelosi has 7 to 15 members Democrat Members who won in trump districts that are wondering how theyll win again i mean remember these are crass he said off the air these are crass politicians we wish they were better theyre politicians theyre going to be looking for their next election so is there a conservative move on dot org about to to form i dont know move on or is very effective you know the timing of this all as well as what weve said you know theres a lot you can impeach trump for but the timing of it is a big deal will the results of this impeachment or wall of this process even make it to the 2020 alexion and ultimately wont this be up to the voters at the end of the day well i think i make a little different point that i think what this is doing is damaging the president s chances to do the things hes been trying to do whether you like it or not hes negotiating a trade deal with china hes likely negotiating a trade deal with Great Britain as soon as they drop out of you hes by the way theres going to be i would my bet i bet 10. 00 theres going to be a Supreme Court nominee in the next 3 months so now you have a president under the cloud of impeachment so will they say i think they will we cant make these decisions hes not qualified we cant let him decide these things this is about throwing sand in the gears of governing i think sometimes wed agree less governing and less passing laws we good but i dont think anything will be decided by election day except that by nobody out because of this and Elizabeth Warren or whoever will be running and saying look at past all that mess lets try something new. One of the things i think thats interesting is about the impeachment that like weve said in the clinton impeachment was essentially because he lied about an extramarital affair not that he had one or that he lied about it and not that he was a kid is this actual misconduct with a whole bunch of totally credible women that wasnt a knock knock for bosnia just there were clear and then when you look at. This thread of impeachment to next that i resigned it was it was a. It was about a 1000000 other things it was a cover up to do this it was about a 1000000 other things carpet bombing cambodia i mean i know many reasons to say youre a danger why is that we only seem to see at least now is the threat to impeach a president or president for crimes related to the election. Not say lying about the iraq war or. Curating secret drone assassination or is there conducting mounds of whining of bridge of them to us and why are the whistleblowers of torture of these things why are those people not protected like the whistleblower who goes said something bad like we needed someone. But heres the thing when they designed the constitution the bar for impeachment was different they debated this they said what should it be and they made the bar very high as you point out i mean so and heres i agree with you in the sense were not talking about what those are political arguments we elect a president to make bad decisions or good decisions and we should have an election about that coming up this high crimes and misdemeanors for impeachment its not its not the kinds of things were hearing i just dont think now i just was talking to one of our tea journalists here who said trump looked terrible today and he did poorly what happens is you start to make mistakes right under a lot of pressure and you make a different mistake if youre nixon you make worse mistakes after the fact they give you a smoking gun and what i do think is the president s under incredible stress his team is to they may or may not have made mistakes in the past but they may make them now and when they make them now then someone to be there to point out and its a again thats part of the process i think what theyre doing and i think it goes back i think youre right i think you saw him at that u. N. Speech where its sort of like the way a lot of ways seems to be on time and it seems to be there and its theres a very Famous Television show called dr who and theres a point where a leader. Where someone wants to sort of just get at someone and its essentially someone whispers to someone next to them and says ok time. Thats right and i tell you that says its like well just prove that you have and i mean. Theres like that its the most electioneering they can do heres my question do you think hes going to stay in the election if this goes on if hes going to go for a 2nd time but if he does do you think hell do you think youll agree to debate whoever is the democratic nominee 100 percent look i mean one thing thats not being paid attention to is the weakness of the democrat candidate field you know again i was talking off air with one of the r. T. Journalists i mean trump is older but the field right now Sanders Biden and warren these are 70 year old folks theres not a lot of trump head to head still is competitive i dont think hell ever back down i think hell be in there i think will debate them all that a lot clearer out i think the more interesting question we just touched on i was once chief of staff to the governor we talked up there by your father and when youre in a scandal as we were the intensity of it all makes you you know make other mistakes in judgment and thats very usually the presidency is a huge benefit for an incumbent because you get all the power of the in this case you have all the weight of governing and all the way to the scandal but i think the president loves this action i know he looked tired today and i think he will use it to his advantage and remember this election is going to be about turnout and if the if the democrats pick a candidate whos not sanders and all the sanders people say boy were going back to one of those milk toast middle trump people are coming through fire to vote for him so its going to be a fascinating 15 months if it does i think bother me and weve talked about it it does bother me though that in this country it seems that we care more about the political machinations of you know which party is in charge rather than what the actual president is ok and what theyre doing i mean weve seen scandal after scandal for both parties where i would look back and say you know lying about iraq a 1000000 people dead that some people you know that was orchestrated when you look at. I can say i like obama like you mentioned killer drone list these are impeachable things but yet those are high crimes and misdemeanors me but you know or you know killing americans who are walking without a without a proper due trial which obama did these are all possible things and here we are just kind of stuck on the crossroads of you know will impeach over electioneering and things like that but i got to say thank you so much for that honestly what you have in your center and always a pleasure. 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What happens to her family and daughters in florida you know the mother daughter is buried in a cemetery it meaning messes with your head what happens to the community the public was screaming for a scapegoat the Police Needed a scapegoat so why not choose a 19 year old black kid with a criminal record who better to pen this than him and what happens in court be the. Shock shock as far as we feel. We dont know chills just for. The end of this trial unfortunately you. Will still not know what childress. The ghost of russia gave passed up or turn this week as Army National security adviser to president on the tram mike. Flynn is back in the headlines with flynn currently awaiting sentencing on charges of lying to investigators during the moeller probe theres been a curious turn in the Court Case Involving one of flynns former Business Partners who was also swept up in russia investigations r t americas their money has the story. In an unexpected turn on tuesday a federal court in virginia overturned a case against Michael Flint ex business partner. He was often referred to as the conviction came in july when he was violating Foreign Agent registration act fara eastern up Court District in Virginia Judge anthony trained dismissed all accounts citing insufficient evidence the evidence was insufficient as a matter of law for the jury to convict rafiki and on either count a new trial would be warranted in the interest of justice should the courts judgment of acquittal be later vacated or reversed he came into the picture under the probe of russian interference the jury convicted him of operating as a turkish government agent while intentionally failing to notify u. S. Officials of his work trying to point out to doubts as to why you were so quick to convict in just 3 hours and worked with glenn prior to joining the trumpet ministration for former Flynn Intel Group their work included efforts to extradite a muslim cleric living in the u. S. Back to his homeland of turkey this decision is a 2nd blow to the Justice Department who has more recently cracked down on unregistered lobbying by foreign governments earlier this month former white House CounselGregory Craig who worked under the Obama Administration was recently found not guilty for lying about his work with ukraine this all trumps former National Security adviser Michael Flynn awaits his sentence on his plea when he admitted to lying to investigators about his contact with the Russian Ambassador during trumps transition and earlier this week attorney said the powell said former National Security advisor Michael Flynn. Will invoke his 5th amendment rights and will not testify before the House Intelligence Committee power who are placed plans previous attorney a few months back wrote that he refuses to be paraded harassed or disparage by Committee ChairAdam Schiff Powell is also pressing for some time seeking a court order to force the government to turn over more materials obtained from the plane case or remains to be seen if and how these cases will impact Michael Flynn sentence which is set for december 18th or if it will be pushed once again. Or as you know terribly in your such huge for him as michael. Its interesting to see kind of all of these cases connected to the Rush Limbaugh were pro bowling apart and one thing that i notice is a certain mention judge of the new trend this is also the same struggle judge we actually just talked about who recently ruled that terrorist screening databases actually violate Constitutional Rights of american citizens who are out of so this judge is clearly could avoid you know him hes definitely making a name for himself as a probable jobs in some of these i profile cases and what his Decision Making to you know early july 1 of the other things like not been a really good year for russia gave. In these court cases afterward so in early july u. S. District judge dabney u. S. Attorney general william barr and Robert Mahler violated court rules in public statements about saying that the russian firm Concord Management consulting was connected to the russian government so there were certain things where they were saying that things happened and that certain connections were proven and made and they were just because somebody does work with people who live in russia or people who do business with the russian government doesnt also meant we mean that everything thats connected goes there is through there and i think thats one of the main. Threads that will that will have to sort of be real living gated through russia gate as that simple proximity is not enough and we did this with terrorism and weve done it with you know now russia gate its if youre near or anybody who looks or sounds or might be or knows the word terrorist then youre a terrorist by association well if you know anyone who is russian youre guilty by association or. You know youre not a horrible person who judges people by what magical lines they were born and just throwing it out there like. Since march of this year boeing 737 max has been grounded across the globe up for 2 fatal crashes