Natanya who in my eyes 2000000 plus Israeli Citizens these are the Israeli Arabs who old Israeli Citizenship are no different to citizens than i am and by warning the israeli public and his voters that the arabs are voting in big numbers i wonder what does that mean i wondered out loud and i treated and wrote about but imagine a leader of a european country standing in the capital city with a megaphone at their central bus station like natanya who did on election day and saying that the jews are coming out to vote in large numbers i mean the whole world would come down on that european leader and condemn what would seem like a flagrant act of antisemitism on the other side of the political spectrum you had benny gantz you are lucky Party Together with a Vidor Lieberman who now is the kingmaker who completely diligent in my eyes the ultraorthodox r. A. D sector of society saying that they are again. Theyre not scientists are not contributing to Israeli Society well hang on a minute before we get to kingmakers as you say netanyahu is warning about our bothas and hes kind of vindicated isnt he because im an ota of the joint list has indeed done better than expected that me i was right. I think actually in a 10 year who shot himself in his own foot by him attacking the arab sector im at remember just a week ago he wanted to pass special legislation through parliament that would have installed cameras specifically at every polling stations why did he want to do that because he actually wanted to lower the voter turnout of the arabs but the opposite happened the arabs saw themselves under assault and they came out 10 percent more voters in the arab sector than in the april election so an attorney who might have actually cost himself more bad than good on the other hand you are right that the arabs did much better this time and i think that it was a combination of a all the lists coming together as opposed to what happened in april when they ran as 2 separate parties but also the fact that they felt under siege and when they felt under siege they came together and they decided to vote which for them should hopefully bring about a positive result im not sure the season t. V. Camera initiative got their legal go ahead but i dont know if theyve seen this mockery of report story saying that who would try to use a an invasion of gaza to postpone the elections do you think theres any truth in the story i dont know it hasnt been confirmed ive read it ive heard it is much criticism as i could have for a new 10 year who i would still find it hard to believe in imagine that she would be willing to take his country to war to try to avoid an election but then again look anything is possible i would hope that thats not i mean how much of a racist is he in the sense that under him the jewish nation state will came through and now of course im an ode of the joint list who did better than expected says this this is this is no good at all and privileges jews over christians and muslims. I dont know that i would call him the 10 you who are racist i think that its on you who is is playing a game of populism and popular politics right and sometimes does use and diligent. Mises and uses terms in language that i would definitely a caution against but i dont think that hes a racist but i would also wonder whats happening in the arab sector the fact that this joint list is made up of parts like the bolide faction which completely denies the legitimacy of a jewish state in the state of israel i think that thats a problem i think that theres a problem when the joint list for so long and these arab parties have been working more for the palestinians then for their own constituents theres rampant crime you know many guns and illegal arms are held within israeli arab towns theres something that needs to change no doubt its quite a coalition but. It isnt being played as clear as you want him to be about guns and the coalition what do you make of the fact he said that donald trump support for Israeli Occupation of syrias Golan Heights and the support of a complete documentation is cheap and cynical provocation will that be something that will negotiate with benny gantz over if he wants to become the leader of israels opposition but i dont see im a new to joining a coalition maybe hed become a leader of the opposition but i heard members of the faction of his party today who said that they wouldnt even support their own party leader becoming the head of opposition remember that the head of opposition has to be voted in by members of the opposition so its not just your the automatically the Largest Party you get that position and by a lot which is a proportion of his party does not recognize the state and therefore they wouldnt want their leader to be a symbol of the state which is that about position ok but in the run up to the election israel bombed iraq bombed lebanon and of course bomb syria now you have a special knowledge quite apart from being editor in chief of the post shadow strike i understand pompei oh may have read it and it certainly comes in to us by dick cheney do you think this election will change the status. As far as trump has the status of the Golan Heights in syria but i had no i dont think so you know trump has recognized israel sovereignty over the Golan Heights that was done back in march on the eve of the last election in april no one of their country has recognized israels sovereignty and rule of law over the Golan Heights but you know i would say that ultimately israel yes did hunker the Golan Heights from syria in the 68 war now and see 67 but im unclear as to who exactly will the world who want israel to give the Golan Heights to would be to bashar a law side who is massacred and butchered half a 1000000 of his own people would it be to the isis which is still operating inside parts of syria would be the rain ians that are in trenching themselves in syria would be to the russians that are in syria so for all the criticism that people might have about the Golan Heights israel is keeping not just israel safe but its helping to keep it safe what israel did in my book and try to shrink by taking out a Nuclear Reactor that Bashar Al Asad was building together with north korea and destroying that reactor built inland near the Euphrates River in a region called heroes your rich in 2014 was taken over by isis imagine for a moment that isis got its hands on a Nuclear Reactor a Nuclear Material a Nuclear Weapons this would have been a nightmare for the entire world israel saved the world when it took out that Nuclear Reactor back in 2000 so i mean i should say id be did there is or i want to say to her that presumably russian turkish iranian officials will say far from helping isis day yes in syria it was israel it was britain it was the United States that was defacto helping those islam is groups and their support for the overthrow of assad of syria thats absurd thats completely absurd not true israel to not help isis israel its participation if at all in the war in syria was to actually absorb thousands of syrians who were wounded taken into israeli hospitals and give them. Western Level Medical care thats how israel played a role in what happened in syria otherwise it stayed on the sidelines now it continues to ensure that red lines are not crossed and weaponry is not transferred to his ally and he runs us not establish bases from what were to launch rockets and attacks like the drones that were laden with explosives and wanted to fly into israel just a few weeks ago would be ron is doing trying to create a sheer crescent between iran iraq syria and lebanon is not just a threat to israel although its immediate for us because its along our borders this is a problem for the entire world well i we hope the Iranian Ambassador to london will be coming on the show soon i just going to have finally ask about the israeli lobby because you may have heard the Jeremy Coleman the labor leader here in britain is a favorite according to the bookies to be the next Prime Minister how is this general election in israel going to work reserving the israeli lobby here in britain because presumably you have the Jerusalem Post alone whatever government happens in israel not too fond of jericho but im not sure about the term the israel lobby it sounds to mischievous and like some sort of Conspiracy Theory that i might have read back in the 1930 s. But put that aside for a moment the israels position and jimmy corbin israel doesnt get involved in the elections of other countries what it does do though is it tries to make sure that antisemitism is fox antisemitism is thrown away and at a summit is not his mates be saying thats not tolerated and not acceptable sadly Jeremy Corbett is champion and to etch empennage antisemitism i know youve had him on the show and thats perfectly fine but this is a man who not only turns a blind eye to antisemitism to gets into bed with some of israels worst enemies enemies not just of israel but of the United States and of the United Kingdom enemies like hizbollah like hamas like the rain ians that seek only the destruction and death and. Pain throughout the world if thats if that is the person who will be elected as the Prime Minister britain so be it but i think that we should all be aware of the danger that comes with someone who like someone of that caliber Jeremy Corbyn becoming Prime Minister what does that send what message does that send to the anti semites around the world and what end message does that send to the enemies of the western world in other words the rain ians hizbullah muscle kite and others it will if a man like that can lead a country like him yeah well visit him vijay mccovey on the show again thank you very much. Thank you after the break. Big floyds roger waters may have sung for him but the worlds most famous publisher Julian Assange will not be released when he finishes his london prison sentence tomorrow we told her weekly and after a summer of fracking breaks in Northern England the director of a new film about fighting environmental degradation thirst for justice showing at londons raindance Film Festival 2 more. Through going underground. Negative Interest Rates are telegraphing a drop in population if you look at forest consumption in the present to feed the bodys game that means youve got this generation will have to be sacrificed and so you know humans have not really psychologically evolved from the days of just outright. Children for the gods of their books that generation see the policy gods. What politicians do. They put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. So when you want to be president and you. Want to. Have to go right to be cross with a white woman for 3 of them or 10 people. Im interested always in the waters of. Course should. The. Tensions between the masses and clauses have existed ever since modern states came into being but often serve as a drive a political change with Russian Civil Society growing and louder and. Against the excesses of the governing elite what does the future of the political system look like. Welcome back to more of the worlds most famous journalist publisher was supposed to be released after a 50 week jail to have a jumping bail is they were refusing to release the revealer of major nation war crimes Julian Assange even though the u. N. Claims he has been tortured in london joining me now via skype from iceland is the editor in chief of wiki leaks christian reference and kristen thanks for coming back on the show before we even get to all of that how easy soy a few days ago a couple of weeks ago i understand hes been denied correspondence is he still in the hospital wing. Is still in the house for the winter storm or 2 weeks ago its the 3rd time ive seen him. Since he was all in there and here in april 11th is somewhat improved but the conditions there are opal and i always lose a little bit of mankind when i walk out of there at that horrible place and is it true that is subject to something called controlled moves. Yes underpinning cases and shes really was what went inside to the mars the and to the corridors when he hears water from one place to another and so he that everything is a 100 to 2 increases isolation is been spending most of the time in a cell in de facto soldiery confinement which is horrible this is somewhat changed in the last few days for a couple weeks its still a very severe situation so from tomorrow youll be able to say as an organization that your founder is imprisoned not for alleged allegations in sweden or for jumping bail appointment you believe he is being jailed by u. K. Authorities so only because he revealed war crimes. Yes i would have said that about the entire time that the years and mars because its all linked together is sort of refuge in there with an embassy because of threats of tradition going to states that has now been proved to be concerned that he was just so it was justified but formally now serve their sentence for jumping bail the most severe sentence for for that crime in the u. K. Or probably in in lot of days. And now he is formally on remand to waiting the actual issue here in late february that the extradition hearing from the United States of course u. K. Media here has been saying why didnt his lawyers apply for bail when district judge Vanessa Wright gave him an opportunity to do so his lawyer said no he didnt want to apply for freedom. A little absolute farce. And astonishing that this is. Discussed in this manner the very other day when this judge came into the chambers he basically admitted that he had just been assigned to the case and was not the media with the details of its is going to be the extradition case judge this was not supposed to be a bail hearing there be no preparation for that this was a mere formality this is day in court so this is a extraordinary of course the lawyers were not there prepared to actually. Put forward arguments for his bail that was supposed to be a later states so in a very biased fashion z. T. Clears that that he had asked absconded before and therefore was that id been very it yeah he said she said you know your former colleague has a history of a squandering and i have to say his opinions are just lawyers they dont submit themselves to any media scrutiny that appear on any t. V. Programs so youre saying the legal team were not prepared for the bail hearing well i mean not with the arguments or with with that with the fluid support bail hearing that there were there was supposed to happen later this was not a day in court where this was supposed to be argued but this goes to show i mean what and so of course what news meltzer the United Nations pressure up or toronto or to set up how corrupts and how in stress that the entire system in the u. K. Including the judiciary and the media has become when it comes to julian our sons and weve seen it before u. K. Courts earlier this year and this sort of was a confirmation that what neil smelters said seems to be true that Julian Assange. Does not have a chance of a fair trial into this fire as you understand it at the moment kenny a. Hell the continuing detention on remand ahead of extradition to the United States who want him for alleged crimes that would imprison him for a 175 years well actually lawyers to answer but i am certain the it has been discussed that it is a is of a little importance for julian to get out of jail marcella least or at least to get out of this this situation how on earth is a person who is in solitary we were almost the entire day. With very little access to information. How can we prepare for the biggest most Important Court case in his lifetime the extradition hearing in late february this is a question of life and death is hearing and only and i can inform you here that that about 2 weeks ago was this was the 1st time that the lawyers were able to leave documents with him to read and study for 5 months he has not had that access. This is this is absurd thanks to julia sanji obviously when people are talking about an imminent war with iran we know about tens of thousands of People Killed by the u. S. Military the collateral murder video Chelsea Manning as well of course is also in jail in the United States whats it like running we can leak now without julian assigned next to you as regards facts and leaks that might be able to prevent nato countries going into another war in the middle east well of course were still open for business and. You know people want to give us information that could stop the escalation of the situation for example now in the middle east. On we can restart or could there is a drop box for information its hard for me as a journalist basically to see this unfolding in my close circle to see my friend in this situation not just because of him or lloyds really difficult for him but for sure all the journalists and for. Unless im a general because as weve talked about frequently extrad