General assembly i think the situation on the ground in the region is it is not that bad a confrontation between major powers or major actors most of the confrontation is taking place through proxies and it is so obvious that the who have mentioned that they will attack again this doesnt necessarily mean that they have conducted the 1st attack but they at least tried to give the sign that they are also in the game you see im really referring to the fact that when shinzo arbor the japanese Prime Minister was in tears suddenly iran was accused of seizing a japanese vessel then when donald trump says 11 conditional talks with president rouhani was of course being in turkey on monday suddenly this happens you dont see that theres anything to be suspicious about i dont find any kind of the direct relationship between the president. Heinies and prison terms meeting possible meeting and the visit of bit to to her on it is probably a coincidence but i still insist that we will have to wait and see what the. Real motive behind the attack and who has organized attack is clear of course britain seized an iranian vessel amidst all of the recent uptick in the threats military threats against iran what do you make of britain once you do overthrow your southern neighbor this government the government of syria in the context of mondays talks or one of the major results of the trilateral summit. Was. Probably the agreement on the formation of the Constitutional Committee and now all the 3 sides have agreed that the names are more or less creator and there is no dispute about the lists which shows that we can proceed with the geneva process and this is an encouraging sign because the Constitutional Committees formation is a major step towards the continuation of the peace talks now once the considered committee is formed and once the geneva talks start i think it is quite obvious that we are accepting that this transition is going to take place during the assad regime is still in power so. When we go back to 7 or 8 years earlier all the International Community was against conducting all these developments. But now its obvious that it has proved his strong presence and control over the syrian territory you see these talks and i know were going to get further details in the next 48 hours 24 hours theyre taking. Well in the past few weeks israel has bombed damascus israel has bombed lebanon israel has bombed iraq do you think the 3 leaders rouhani and the one are aware of this context i think this was asked during the press conference that all the 3 leaders and since in the communicate has mentioned that they have also discussed a couple of other regional developments and International Developments whether israeli issue or other topics have been discussed but the answer was no. Probably think that the israeli situation is very much related to the elections and since the israeli elections was approaching probably israel was showing some kind of strength and assertiveness in the region so that the this attitude could perhaps have any impact on the elections on the other side i think russia is also very careful in its relations with israel in iran is also. Quite aware that has certain ambitions against iran and simply wants to be prudent and doing that does not want to escalate things so israeli issue has not been on the agenda between the 2 between the treaty theres i presume who do you think the president is going to think of the fact that the 3 leaders didnt really even talk about United States recognition of Israeli Occupation illegal occupation of the golan syrian property let alone of course the state of East Jerusalem yes i dont think that hes extremely happy about that he was probably. But the 3 leaders did not mention anything about all these issues the israeli developments and they probably agreed not to mention even if they had discussed these issues. Behind closed doors do you think its sensible of the 3 leaders to trust nato nations of the well britain has been selling record amounts of weapons to israel and israeli weapons have indeed been found in syria amidst the conflict i dont think that this has been discussed either because you know that this is a continuation of the us tunnel process and the source the process so thats really theres probably prefer to focus mainly on the continuation of the stand and the sorts of processes and to focus on the situation on the theatres concerning issues in blip on any issues in the east of euphrates and also perhaps the preparation between turkey and the United States for the establishment of a safe zone in the north east of syria because here in britain weve had the memoirs of former Prime MinisterDavid Cameron who you met when you were. Here in london hes been blaming Boris Johnson for lies about what he alleges a lies about turkey in the brics that referendum why do you think we dont hear more about the numbers of refugees taken by turkey let alone what agreement about refugees was made at my design career summit in just tell us a little about it 3600000 refugees from syria. Point 6000000 which are the official figures that have been announced so far but i believe the number is quite high it is probably a little bit over 4000000. And this is certainly becoming a major burden for turkish economy because the government has already declared that turkey has spent more than 35000000000. 00 us dollars for all the syrian. Refugees currently in turkey. I think did numbers quite low when i was ambassador there and when david. Cameron was Prime Minister the syrian problem was in its initial phase and probably that was not a big issue and nobody expected that it would continue and the result with that kind of huge floor of people into turkey the deal between turkey and the rippin union came on only in 2015 and recently in it has been declared by the European Union i think. Mrs morgan who mentioned that European Union has already given 5600000000 euros to turkey to cope with the problems created by the Syrian Refugees in turkey you said that some people didnt expect the refugee crisis id suggest that many people did you presumably talk with Boris Johnson then when he was foreign secretary before you became Prime Minister obviously as he is today you really didnt see any understanding in britain that support factor support for islam ists in syria to overthrow the government would lead to a refugee crisis on the scale as i told i mean the refugee crisis what that that that scale in those years. I think when the break that talks and the referendum was being prepared one of the issues that Boris Johnson particularly emphasized was the possible increase of flow into the United Kingdom through turkey but of course that was not a very prudent policy and i wouldnt say that it was. It was helping it to the cause or breaks it it was simply exaggerating a situation and simply trying to convince the people that they should vote for leave i think he now everybody agrees that johnson. Did not play the turkey card very cleverly at that time during the David Cameron so i. To that debate ambassador thank you thank you very much after the break up the u. K. Prime minister Boris Johnson fled the press conference in luxembourg only to face a Supreme Court in london deliberating on his own alleged lying because Boris Johnson run out of places to hide and 5 years to the day scotland voted to remain in the u. K. We get to the actual trade Committee Chair and guess what neal whether his s. N. P. Will now ally with germany corbin to annihilate Boris Johnson story is going up about 2 and going underground. Again we stand on the brink of war we should not be surprised official washington was quick to blame iran for the attack on saudi Energy Assets iran has denied involvement while the who have claimed responsibility will trump take the neocon bait and set the middle east on fire. They all see themselves as dying swans in their dreams. But only one in the cells will ever make it to the top. Theyre ready to give their lives for the chance to die on stage if only once. Not even broken wings can do to them. For generations at the moment. But they sweat and tears on us he. Just. Wants to. Do. Rick. Welcome back joining me now to go through some of these top stories on the day after the end of the liberal democrat conference as one of the partys former Coalition Ministers norman baker moment thanks for coming on where you are not at the conference and he didnt even i dont know whether you were there i wasnt there because i have a lights going to conferences then p. And. I really felt to have to go lets go straight to this story from from the mirror this is our our friend next story something about who talks out gay power and bill calls america and who defects to the liberal democrat or a new call the your party for calm rage sam. What do you think about al ensuring do you think he should never been pardoned post was of course is why is this man in your party what sort of party is the liberal democrats if it allows me and chuck you know for his war garrulous to the promoter will stare at me angela smith who talks about funny tinge journalists of people of color who jenna birgitte friend of mock reggae havent the same its a party look at that hate thats. Thats got to scrape in the bowels go to the bottom of it without a list of irrelevant comments look them in the sky those who defected to the lib dems from labor and conservative put their careers in a lot in many cases they recognize that throwing their careers away theyve done so out of principle so the people of principle of the ones who are defecting is a need difficult thing to do to defect to any party the ones who should be criticizing other people and tory party and labor party that matter who mumble under their breath this is terrible i dont like the way my party is going its all wrong and they do nothing keep their mouths shut these guys are stood up being counted he explicitly spoke out against the pardoning of people who are l. G. B. T. Who had been. Convicted prior to equality legislators are stunned that he was doing so as a minister or not was just following orders is no yes no but thats what this is do when you dont follow orders you resign from the government as i resigned eventually from the Coalition Government having had enough of the reason may how far does this go then so will the liberal democrats allow people that you fundamentally disagree with the party is a broad church like any Political Party is only people who disagree with individual policies you know chin found for example who believe the party had a different view on gay rights from for most of the people in the party and i want to go to due to this wonder and David Camerons memoirs yes your take on David Cameron book to do nothing in libya was to facilitate murder well its always difficult isnt it as a british Prime Minister to try to involve the country in which hes expedition of a and so on because weve all heard of the destruction of africas i know which is but capital and i know absolutely and i think david had a point on a particular issue but the the trouble was after iraq and the lies appalling was told by tony blair and i was accountable to sign paul and it was naturally skeptical about taking it was hes action i think thats only right you know where i disagree with David Cameron this issue was not the the right to get involved and prevent a whole the cost if you like a terrible example of what might have happened to him well how did happen he says he says he saved libya well i think because gadhafi had said libya will be well gadhafi was a terrible terrible man but where i disagree with David Cameron is this these matters should be ones for the United Nations you know we are not the worlds policeman no no this america no this russia not any other country but why do you think cameron hasnt realized what youve just said to me now in the luxury of his. Well i think this to live residual feeding that britain has got some sort of responsibility to the world weve not lost the mindset that were one of the great powers we dont one of the great Powers International law is something we want. Hold on to something that trump is pretty destroying of course the United States but we in europe hold on to it because trump trumps people didnt deny that air at the embassy but how could they devalue it well i mean the bedrock of our people out of their debriefing of everything in sight theyre destroying everything internationally and the camera apologize over the bricks that referendum and so on here didnt apologize for libya in these moments you know what i think hes probably believing youre probably saying what he believed to be right ok lets go to the china daily about arguably the most famous put it on is this is the daily mirror in the china daily. To remain in prison after sentence expires well to be honest with you i dont take any lessons from china daily on people being in prison on duty because theyve locked up 1000000 week goes to any trial whatsoever such as the children denies that they have is that this film is for asian is actually coming out of this film of it weve seen it this google does numerous witnesses are spoken to them up into we could come from the oppose the iraq war claim many activists claim lots of this is being used against the chinese but thats going on there well im just making the point that this is this is the attempt by the chinese to go for lowest common denominator they have got a big state on their conscience in the way they deal with people not come to the dont like but in a case in which on the issue here i mean this is difficult because people are held in the mountains if they are expected or thought you might have school and thats a normal process in the courts of law people all the time are held there neednt be Political Prisoners or people who go out he has no charges in this country no weve got an extradition warrant applied for by the us and signed by the home secretary and that carries some weight and i understand that the 1st hes going to court is it about less than a months time so the time he sort of you know is still in the home of as youd be fine would someone who internationally is seen as the Award Winning journalist and publisher jailed on their mind without any conviction whatsoever. Being in. For years and hes being overwhelmed political refugee granted as hes been for years no zone pollution could do we now know that no he was granted asylum and the United Nations repertoire on torture says that he was tortured by the u. K. Government well i dont believe he was talked about the u. K. Government but this is a matter for the courts not so much of for government ministers who dont have governments running the courts force in this country as indeed weve seen with the whole process that negotiations look i mean im in im in im privileged about mr asante undoubtedly some of the material he brought forward was in the Public Interest for us to do about all the other hand war crimes yeah id absolutely but on the other hand you also released a whole lot of information about individuals that was quite irresponsible so he didnt really handle what he did say denies that well i mean i think the guardian in the New York Times that revealed the unredacted information well they got it from him and therefore i think hes responsible for the omega thank you well as this Supreme Court in london rules or whether scotlands highest court was right to judge that Boris Johnson unlawfully shut down Parliament Im joined now via skype from the Western Isles whether chair of Britains International trade committee yes m. P. s Angus Macneil thanks thanks for coming on so presumably already quite frightened by just when sort of the liberal democrat tim it just went and gave a speech in about 24 hours at that have a liberal democrat conference without blairite labor and austerity tories on board she was claiming credit for knife crime reductions in glasgow whats the s. N. P. Going to do against the lib dems. I apologize for how celebratory sluicing have anything at all to do tonight chemical is utterly laughable abuse and some of us get on with this going to go to one of the Scottish Parliament for the last 10 years nothing at all to do that myself as a west as m. P. Have said nothing to do with jocelyns us a little den of westchester m. P. s not just the the the evidence claims that just winds made it kind of laughable and the more which is out of their suspects are supposed to stop but except party but some of you who will be aware that if they go loot back of this account of the record of that 25th of february 2008 just wish it was a start but accident be the start but until she was the one who was calling for but accidentally ended and it went it to backwoodsmen it feel like were only looking for the president of the lisbon treaty joyously instead of the liberals were the o