Rights violations committed in yemen the countries continue to follow mr saudi arabia. International live from our studio with me welcome to the program millions of weapons made in serbia reportedly fall into the hands of Islamic State fighters in yemen and syria after they were bought by the United States and its allies according to documents seen by a bulgarian investigative journalist. This is an honest. Document of our heels the man on the. Back. And us. Tracking all the way. And now this contract i was able to id by one particular lot left in the land of the theory in their propaganda video in yemen if those documents prove to be genuine then weapon seen on the Islamic State in yemen could well be unmade after being sold to u. S. Military contractors our Senior Correspondent kathy f. Explains how the weapons could have ended up in terrorist hands. Its a remarkable trail from the arms factories of europe so the hands of isis terrorists in yemen in the span of barely a year we knew this courtesy of concerned citizens who leaked the emails the memos the contracts between the u. S. Its contractors and weapons manufacturers and the jihad ists gave it away propaganda real from isis showed in their position 82 millimeter mortar shells which the reporter was able to identify who for 18 read the numbers the side that is Production Growth for manufactured in 2018 k. V. Stands for the arms factory the for value of a place in serbia where the arms factory is and thanks to those leaked documents it appears the us military purchased lot for from crusade Military Factory last year then it was a matter of following the paper trail how those shells were brought transported marks for the afghan army and ended up with isis in yemen. Report the discovered all this is certain in her findings if. Now when. And where. Or in the claims she made damaging of course is true for the u. S. Government that based on these documents that you got hold of how hard was it to get them and how certain are you that they are genuine. I was that i have had from the beginning. I dont know or the people or of the words some will send the word or walk but that very thankful to them because. That. Is our forces they are thank you in the shipping government. And on the labor. Market or show this there is the name of the company are there for you have a government or worth of weapons on behalf of the arm and there you go for the shipping of that so its not a 2 track. He is like he back to the Us Government also there is indication that information about the us thank you know. This were ensured the documents speak for themselves the arms factory made the shelves alien tech systems and contractor for the pentagon purchased 10500. 00 of them for 8000000. 00 it would transported the bug area coincidentally it was isis fighters were also holding a bulgarian made sold rifles next shipment was flume via silk way west lives and is it by johnny airline licensed to transport weapons for the pentagon to us bases next thing we know within the year shells are in isis is arsenal you need question all of this is how and who handed over those arms to extremists there and minded the just isis that weve seen in possession of munitions made in but also. The way in syria various other jihad scoops. Remarkable coincidence for them to accidentally stumbled upon all of these weapons reportedly paid for by u. S. Taxpayers now weve sent many many requests for comment to the pentagon to its contractors involved in all of this year lyons the basis but so far nothing. Live now to chance to bridge a security analyst and former u. K. Army officer charles thanks for coming on to the program to talk about this now and if you look at the authenticity of the documents leaked by. Do you think theyre going to be scrutinized further or denied. I think absolutely theyre going to be scrutinized no doubt think tanks and so many other organizations Fact Checkers and so on that end up of course promoting us and particularly u. K. Government lines will be looking for giveaways but i think they may struggle in this case as indeed in so many to undermine what appears to have discovered here or are those people who have leaked documents to and then how work in uncovering the linkage is its an impressive piece of journalism by any standards i think to produce what she travels shes produced and apparently convincing evidence if the stock commit such genuine and so far at least been no indication whatsoever despite the opportunity to given to people so far to show them as not genuine if they are genuine these documents are indeed as deanna herself suggests they are indeed explosive in their revelations really what it shows is that long after we all know of course or many of us know about this operation timber sycamore that was launched by the u. S. Was run by many years by them a covert arming and training project for syrias rebels supposedly moderate rebels. But of course invariably many of these weapons ended up in the hands of what even the u. S. Deems terrorists in syria that was all supposedly ended in 2017 when it was finally disclosed that its actually publicly acknowledged that it existed and so now weve got evidence quite clear evidence if the documentation is true and again theres nothing to indicate that its not that actually this program in another form has continued not just in respect of syria but also a quick paying presumably rebel organizations allied to the saudi and u. A. E. Site in yemen that those weapons of course have also been continually been continued to be covertly secretly supplied with the inevitable result that either deliberately or accidentally but surely knowing that it would happen that these weapons of then ended up in the hands of what everybody i think almost everybody including the u. S. Itself describes as terrorists. More can be done to prevent this from happening because we hear this all the time you know arms deals as separate to where people purchase them from and and in this case its in a country which is full of conflict you know its a mess its probably easy isnt it for people like i still remember to get weapons in an environment like that. Theres no question whatsoever and indeed paper system itself and not just me many people since 2011 and before when this was being muted as we can supply we were told to moderate rebels as they were caught in either libya or syria with weaponry that would help overthrow gadhafi or for example a sad it was obvious to those of us whove got really any military backgrounds are told that it would be impossible to control where those weapons would end up and indeed Much Research a lot of academics and so on has proved this to be the case again and again. At the top of course the obvious evidence of the videos and social media output of these rebel groups themselves that they have obtained weapons despite the fact that they are by any standards extremist organizations are the moderate rebels socalled selling or handing over these weapons to these groups all of these groups can capture them in the field if they have battles or disputes themselves of course it could have been and i dont think this is necessarily the stuff of conspiracy theories it could have been so obvious of course that this would happen that it would end the weapons would end up in the hands of these extremist groups that that was the intention right from the start these are all possibilities and that also applies in yemen because lets face it its often regarded that the most effective fighters on the side that the u. S. The u. K. And others are supporting in yemen and syria are those extremist groups either groups such as the nose or front successes and predecessors in places like. Or i. R. S. And other extremist groups in yemen and so therefore its no surprise then that when we look at the very covert nature of this army program the lengths to which notwithstanding their incompetence uncovered in covering up their trail of actions but the lengths to which the u. S. And other thought is of gone to disguise and conceal this arming program again suggests that they knew it would end up in the hands of extremist groups otherwise why attempt to hide it in the 1st place ok well leave it there Charles Schumer bridge as a security analyst and former u. K. Army officer great to have in the program charles thanks very much. Now the british Prime Minister has been dealt a huge blow to his plan of pushing through and nobody brags it after m. P. s voted to block leaving the European Union without a deal in place the government now will have to look for an extension from the e. U. To approve a deal or finally agree on a no deal price it was johnson called for a snap general election on the 15th of october and hes set to vote on up this hour and well be staying across that for you but 1st lets get some insight from david caplan a former brings it party member and he and david thanks for coming on to the program its been a pretty bad 24 hours for Boris Johnson doesnt it. Do you think hell get his wish for a snap election in october theres an awful lot of speculation about it at the moment. Yes i think you will i think you will get to the end but its well its all very difficult to just go democracy thats what britain does but im fortunate in a lot of people in the house of commons that simply do not represent the will of the people any more for years and years and years will be returning and cruel european members of parliament the whole system has been geared to doing that and the people of change their mind they want to leave the European Union and the people who are in the house of commons dont seem to agree with that well im afraid we needed the election to clear out lose your roof and attics and lets have a politician a more representative of the people of Great Britain and what they want to be miss woken another friend and there was no discussion about what so directly it was simply we wanted that so you know oldest got about you know this sort of branch of that sort of breaks you know we just leaving and thats david the thing is you say that we need election if our stance and doesnt get that majority required for a general election 2 thirds what other options are on the table. Well there are on options of course and you can you can put through some of your knowledge of commons that essentially changes the way the the that is of the fixed Term Parliament act so that it only needs a 50 percent majority and to get through it now thats possible you can do that and can and will achieve that and but if mr kaufman of them wants an election he claims he does then of course this is the perfect opportunity so used to to move ahead and seize that opportunity and once once we got to move towards elections very difficult for the labor party the force and force to do anything once elections go yeah i mean theres another option as a lead david there was a possibility that he could resign right before Parliament Suspends and trigger a general election within 25. 00 days do you think johnson would go that far well i think going into this hes given a lot i think bourses has got lots of guts i did the best primus it was seen it was and in a great number of years i he really seems to to want to get the the thing through to do what he promised to do i think that the rest of us should get behind him i a great Party Everyone should get behind him and make sure we do everything we can to help him defeat this group of people in the and house of commons hes conservatives who why do you think theyre really conservative they are pro european and they are not really to my mind doing what is best for Great Britain and they said we dont doing whats best for democracy and we have wanted people britain wanted to leave they are trying to stop it we shouldnt allow that to happen yeah i mean what what do you think about think a what the opposition parties stand to gain from this bill on blocking a no daylight and of course those 21 tories who opposed it as well. Well the rules for it to do anything to stop bricks and you get a Halfway House or a quarter we house you just determined to stop us leaving the e. U. Lately do not want proper breaks it clean breaks it because the nordic the that would be the end of things for them but there we knew wed back from that and the European Union will simply disintegrate blue 2 years but most importantly of all greeks it needs to be a clean breaks it in order to succeed so that we are cleared of European Union and we can meet the treaties with countries all over the world that we need to make to meet the money to make the products to make it work here to our just stop. Ok david a coburn a former brags that party member and thanks very much for the wealth profile to discuss this. Here. Now the u. S. And britain and france may all be complicit in war crimes or foreign Rights Violations or war and thats according to a un report that was released on tuesday and that highlighted the run of on sales to the saudi led coalition. There are certain states who are well known to be supplying weapons that includes the United States it includes the United Kingdom and it includes france to name but 3 the group of experts has recommended that 3rd states prohibit the authorization of armed truck arms transfers and refrain from providing arms to parties to the conflict this is because of the prevailing risk that such arms will be used by parties to commit or facilitate serious violations of International Humanitarian and human rights law. The u. S. Britain and france make up the top 3 arms suppliers to riyadh while the Stock InternationalPeace Research institute estimates that between 20152018 washington sold weapons worth some 10000000000. 00 to saudi arabia the u. K. And france trailed far behind with 2100000000. 00 and over 500000000. 00 respectively one of the authors of the latest u. N. Report Charles Garraway told us the continuing flow of arms into yemen is perpetuating nubile. This is a collective failure of beautiful can lutie as a whole well it is the responsibility of the International Community as a whole. Endeavor to believe those people who supply will have a greater influence on the parties and therefore have a perhaps a greater responsibility to take action to try to prevent violations there is no doubt that it is the continuation of the supply of alms to. The conflict. The recent un report has also called into question the findings of science because joint Incidents Assessment Team this body is set up by riyadh claims to investigate violations by the coalition in yemen with transparency and impartiality Charles Garraway again told us that the groups analysis is superficial. The trouble is the coalition has not been cooperating with us the verse for we have very Little Information apart from what is in the public the most the press releases of the joint incident the Assessment Team produce are comparatively bland and so far as we can see they do not carry out a sufficient legal analysis what is needed is an independent and impartial assessment so this what we have tried to do but the difficulty with examining conduct to force them to is its easy to look upwards from the result the result will tell you very little it wont even tell you what the intended target was and what we need and what the world is access to the targeting persons so that we can find out what is going wrong because something clearly years. With no end in sight to the plot a conflict in yemen children that are particularly vulnerable a crew from r. T. Arabic is it at an orphanage in the countrys capital of sun. And the legacy i was playing while i was super great seem to have the bomb explode and so shrapnel flying nun to actually some towards me and then stumbling around only to find out that my family had been killed my mother and father my brothers and sisters they were all. At the time because of the war the number of all fronts has risen so much that the orphanages cant house them its bleak for this children many of whom have to leave right from the streets. Like one of our top stories now the british Prime Minister has been dealt a huge blow to his plan of pushing through a no deal braggs it after m. P. s voted to block leaving the European Union without until in place across live now for the tallent and base correspondence. Blows for Boris Johnson in 24 hours whats next for the new pm. Well the bracks saga continues seemingly no end in sight another confusing and dramatic day for british politics here in london with m. P. s having voted in favor of an anti no deal that bill which proposes it be delayed for a 4th time this time until january 2020 so having passed through the commons with the majority of 28 votes now set up to go to the house of lords for approval and of course this is a bit low for Prime MinisterBoris Johnson who speaking right off to haring the results warned of the implications. Of a drug deal with donald trump a bill of goods to take to be in the negotiations a bill that demands an extension at least until next year and perhaps for many more years to come and a bill that insists britain acquiesce to the demands of brussels and hands control to our partners its a bill designed to overturn the biggest democratic vote in our history 26. 00 to you renee. What does this actually all mean the ones talking about it while i had the remain as shouldnt put pull out the the Party Poppers any time soon because the lords does still have to vote on it and while